Oh yeah. Tell that to the thousands of civilians who already died in Iraq. And those dozens who are dying there everyday.
Yes, it is very much different from genocide. Instead of killing innocent people fast, you are killing them slowly. Or you're probably going to call that "more humane"? Or would you rather go "oh but Saddam Hussein, convicted in killing of 148, was much much worse!! TV said he was a genocidal maniac!!!!!"
I do not blame you (since I do it myself all the time) for looking positively at what your own politicians say and negatively at what your perceived enemies say... Wait, stop - that's precisely what I do here.
But not everything now has an option in about:config.
Tab tear off cannot be disabled at all. (Happens all the time - accidentally - when one opens lots of tabs, e.g. when searching through with bugzilla.) And there is no option for it at all - request on bugzilla was denied.
For faster start-up FireFox loads initial tabs from cache. And there is no option to tell it to fetch the pages from net instead.
The about:config might remain, but its usefullness sunk in the 2.x/3.x times - and I do not expect that to improve in 4.x.
Clutter: too many sub-menus, too many functions, too many shortcuts, too many hidden functions. Hitting something by accident on keyboard or with mouse often is pretty much lethal to the browsing session.
My last problem with Opera was that I was by accident triggering something what was bringing my current tab to the speed dial. Button "->" was active but clicking it was doing nothing. Trying to close tab didn't work. Trying to open a new tab didn't work. The menu button couldn't be pressed. Animations and fancy sh*te was working - but there were no reaction from Opera itself. Mouse gestures are disabled. The only thing I could do was to close the browser. Go figure.
They have essentially reached the point of time when there was no competition (technologically, *) left, and interpreted the achieved stability as a stagnation. And that freaked them out and they set out to destroy themselves by screwing up what was working perfectly before.
Kidding. FireFox's focus was always a grandma type of user. The moment when they say goodbye to their tech savvy audience was ought to come and I believe it is upon us. It started in 2.x with some enhancements one couldn't turn off (and had to install couple of add-ons to disable stuff), further expanded in 3.x and I think might peak in 4.x.
I'm already searching for a FireFox' replacement on Windows... IE is too dumb and arrogant (+ poor extensions + idiotic security). Chrome's too primitive (+ constant quirks due to forced updates). Opera is way too feature overloaded and cluttered.
(*) Except for the further development of HTML itself.
The majority of contributions to Linux are from profit-making corporations.
Does anybody still remember the times when corporations were like "we just hire people so that they concentrating on what they already do full time"?
I can think of at least one major open source Unix distribution the central developers of which seem to deliberately so poorly document their work that getting up to sufficient speed on what they do to make a positive contribution requires mentorship.
RedHat? That never was a secret really. And they were first to break the mold of "people do what they already do" to "we pay money so we say what you do".
Though I'm not sure what you mean by the mentorship. RedHat doesn't hire developers that easily. They spare themselves mentoring newhires by always trying to hire people who are already experts in the piece of software. That also gives them greater (often full) control over the project. Two birds with a single stone, but can easily ruin the OSS side of the project. The end result that contributing to the RedHat or Fedora is pretty much impossible task.
Debian as a whole doesn't suffer so much from this problem. I guess because it doesn't attract the glamour-seekers, nor does it consider itself elite.
Because they are not for-profit organization which is actually made of people who like to do what they do.
I found some here, though I'm sure Google would recommend that you use the Stable release branch if you don't want things breaking.
I have seen those. Yes, they are mostly useless as official releases pushed silently to users are concerned.
Chrome opens tabs the way it does to try and keep a rudimentary history going, grouping related tabs together. You will be pleased to know, however, that there is an extension made just for people who don't like this, to enable "Firefox-like" tab ordering.
Well... it kind of... works: tabs jump around as one opens them. I'm not sure whether it is better than nothing. It spares the menial work of bringing the tabs back in order, but the funky animation side-effect is sure confusing.
N.B. FireFox since 3.5 (or 3.6?) adopted the same tab ordering as the Chrome. But they provided an about:config option to manage it.
Anyway, I see that Chrome is getting better. But it is not there yet. Though if FireFox would continue its advances on front of being dumb and dumber, Chrome might get a real chance on my office laptop.
Thanks a bunch. Really. Google is even better than Mozilla at hiding functionality. (Though Mozilla definitely has better community and documentation: finding tips and tricks is easy, if needed at all. about:config takes care of 90% of issues.)
That leaves though another major hole: silent auto-updates. Year ago there was no option to be prompted on updates. Neither Chrome has yet a semi-decent release notes: even if it's going to suggest an update to me, it is nearly impossible to know what the update might bring as there are no release notes whatsoever. Here I'd love to be proven wrong again.
Another minor nag: Chrome opens page in a new tab, next to the current tab. Is it possible to make the new tab to be open as last one? I have in office three standard tabs open and for convenience I keep them as first three. From this first three tabs I open other pages/tabs. Now in Chrome the order gets messed up very quickly and one has to rearrange tabs constantly to keep the first three important tabs in the place where I expect to find them. Is there any option to disable that and make tabs behave as in pre-Fx3.5? (Fx has an about:config option for that.)
But something tells me that Fx4 would be as dumb and useless as Chrome is - for work. At work I need something reliable and flexible to accommodate all the silly needs of the intranet web apps. Chrome's lacking bookmarks (no bookmarks menu; no bookmark shortcuts; no keyword search), poor/non-existent keyboard shortcuts and silent updates (which constantly screw up the most visited sites tab; silently break extensions) ruined my experience with it on pretty much all occasions I have tried to use it. Way too primitive, way too dumb, way too unmanageable.
Seems I have to start looking for a new browser for office sooner than expected. But that is not an easy task. FireFox at least to me is quite unique: uncluttered plain user interface interface with configurability second only to... earlier Fx versions. Opera is too cluttered with unorthodox UI. IE is an archetype for Chrome and fails similarly. Should try SeaMonkey next...
My most hated feature of FireFox (borrowed from Opera) is the fast start-up with tab content being pulled from cache. Once I worked on severe regression: debugged for two+ weeks straight. Finally I localized/fixed the problem, checked in the changes and took rest of the week off. Next Monday in office I booted my laptop and started FireFox. As home page in office I have the shared team to do list web app. And it showed me that I *again* have the very same highest-prio issue on to do list, meaning that all the analysis/testing done before is wrong and after all the weeks of work regression still persists. Cold sweat wiped, gulped two cups of coffee, stretched my fingers and came back to the cubicle readying myself for another week+ of shitty work. Only to notice that the FireFox actually pulled the cached view of the to do list from the week before.....
Do you think an author should only be able to sell a book once?
Yes. Because that's how it is for everybody else.
Wow way to really abstract the problem until it doesn't resemble reality. It is a trade off.
Yes, trade off. (The usual excuse that artists and writers somehow have it worse than the rest frankly starts ticking me off.)
But you do not see that software designers or engineers sponsoring lobbies to screw the law, screw everybody else for our own profit.
Neither, unlike artists, one sees campaigns "oh this bastards bullying poor engineers!!!"
The artists are bathing in publicity and have no problem of abusing the publicity to earn money and to paint themselves poor and abused. And then demand special attention (aka money and publicity). This is blatantly unfair and that's why I'm openly throwing the f-word at them. They should learn their place and should learn how to earn their living. Everybody goes through it.
Two of my friends had McJobs in past so I know for a fact that what you say is not completely true and rather naive. (E.g. dehydrated onions story or how to sell a day old hamburger.)
And even if the info from the friends is outdated or they (unlikely) lied to me - I personally still cannot go against the verdict given to the food by my own stomach.
(*) I went now through couple of large companies and, as a software developer, I was always surprised about the level of delusion in corporate offices: higher one is in the orgchart, more distorted picture of reality one has.
This level of bio-engineering should be made illegal.
I do not think that they employ anything complicated like that. It's more like "serial manufacturing" or "mass production" (compare to "cooking").
Occasionally when I get something from fast food, I get the feeling that their food is simply "empty". One feels full for a short time - often very short time - but the food apparently contains close to 0 of what my body actually needs. Why shortly after I feel hunger again.
If I were in the environment where there were no other choices but fast food, I'm sure I would overeat a lot. Simply because the food isn't nutritious enough. (And well it wasn't made to be nutritious: comparing prices to the rest it is obvious that fast food is made to be cheap.)
With the OOP feature it started doing precisely that. Very same behavior as in the Chrome - and one of the reasons that I do not even consider seriously it.
Gotta find a way to disable the enhancement soon.
P.S. I'd rather have Mozilla include FlashBlock instead of that by default.
Yeah, I am. And I'm saying it because I am software developer.
Because my experience tells me that idealists rarely reach they goal. Because by definition ideal isn't achievable. (Ironically, in software it is. And now tell me how useful the ideal piece of software is?)
Bad analogy time. Where would you prefer to live: in a perfect cave (as perfect as it could get) or in a modern house, probably with few flaws?
Frankly, looking at HTML5 v. XHTML2 (well I was forced to look into it) I easily see that XHTML2 would have never became an widely adopted standard. I (and like 99% of the netizens) would rather have a web page displayed slightly (or not so slightly) incorrectly rather than not displayed at all. That whole concept was doomed from the inception.
For some reason, W3C then abandoned the superior standard of XHTML2 and adopted the steaming pile that WHATWG dumped on them.
You contradict yourself. How "standard" (as in "pile of paper") can be superior to actually working implementation?
End-users (aka "content consumers") gain nothing from idealistic approach of pushing superior standard over working implementation. And HTML5 tried to address the needs of the end users by throwing bunch of fancy multimedia stuff into the standard. That to my limited knowledge wasn't even part of XHTML2.
In the end, WHATWG has very little manpower to simultaneously create a great spec and fix all implementations - or at least persuade all vendors to fix their implementations. It was even founded not by the companies, but by the people implementing the browsers... The developers spoke, W3C, facing the choice of being made irrelevant, obliged.
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Oh yeah. Tell that to the thousands of civilians who already died in Iraq. And those dozens who are dying there everyday.
Yes, it is very much different from genocide. Instead of killing innocent people fast, you are killing them slowly. Or you're probably going to call that "more humane"? Or would you rather go "oh but Saddam Hussein, convicted in killing of 148, was much much worse!! TV said he was a genocidal maniac!!!!!"
I do not blame you (since I do it myself all the time) for looking positively at what your own politicians say and negatively at what your perceived enemies say... Wait, stop - that's precisely what I do here.
In your slang it is called "help people overthrow the regime and build the democracy".
Same thing in the end.
P.S. You even have the proverb about good intentions.
Though I'm not sure about the ultimate purpose Bushehr
NPP in Bushehr is operated by Russians using Russian nuclear fuel which is under the contract after use would be returned to the Russia.
Bushehr never was a problem nor objected to. West doesn't like the own Iranian uranium enrichment program.
You mean other than promising to wipe Israel off the map as soon as they are able?
How that is different from the US politicians threatening military action against those whom they do not like??
Friends from US send me sometimes clips from Fox News. They propose to attack somebody constantly. How it is that better???
Usual populism. I personally do not see any reason to be concerned about aggression from Iran more than from US.
Ironically, with PC games I use cheats rarely.
But I'm pretty sure without R4 (which also supports cheats) I would have thrown away my DS long time ago.
Reminded of the joke:
- Is the Intenet available in heaven?
- No.
- Why not?
- Because all ISPs burn in hell.
But not everything now has an option in about:config.
Tab tear off cannot be disabled at all. (Happens all the time - accidentally - when one opens lots of tabs, e.g. when searching through with bugzilla.) And there is no option for it at all - request on bugzilla was denied.
For faster start-up FireFox loads initial tabs from cache. And there is no option to tell it to fetch the pages from net instead.
The about:config might remain, but its usefullness sunk in the 2.x/3.x times - and I do not expect that to improve in 4.x.
Clutter: too many sub-menus, too many functions, too many shortcuts, too many hidden functions. Hitting something by accident on keyboard or with mouse often is pretty much lethal to the browsing session.
My last problem with Opera was that I was by accident triggering something what was bringing my current tab to the speed dial. Button "->" was active but clicking it was doing nothing. Trying to close tab didn't work. Trying to open a new tab didn't work. The menu button couldn't be pressed. Animations and fancy sh*te was working - but there were no reaction from Opera itself. Mouse gestures are disabled. The only thing I could do was to close the browser. Go figure.
They have essentially reached the point of time when there was no competition (technologically, *) left, and interpreted the achieved stability as a stagnation. And that freaked them out and they set out to destroy themselves by screwing up what was working perfectly before.
Kidding. FireFox's focus was always a grandma type of user. The moment when they say goodbye to their tech savvy audience was ought to come and I believe it is upon us. It started in 2.x with some enhancements one couldn't turn off (and had to install couple of add-ons to disable stuff), further expanded in 3.x and I think might peak in 4.x.
I'm already searching for a FireFox' replacement on Windows... IE is too dumb and arrogant (+ poor extensions + idiotic security). Chrome's too primitive (+ constant quirks due to forced updates). Opera is way too feature overloaded and cluttered.
(*) Except for the further development of HTML itself.
The majority of contributions to Linux are from profit-making corporations.
Does anybody still remember the times when corporations were like "we just hire people so that they concentrating on what they already do full time"?
I can think of at least one major open source Unix distribution the central developers of which seem to deliberately so poorly document their work that getting up to sufficient speed on what they do to make a positive contribution requires mentorship.
RedHat? That never was a secret really. And they were first to break the mold of "people do what they already do" to "we pay money so we say what you do".
Though I'm not sure what you mean by the mentorship. RedHat doesn't hire developers that easily. They spare themselves mentoring newhires by always trying to hire people who are already experts in the piece of software. That also gives them greater (often full) control over the project. Two birds with a single stone, but can easily ruin the OSS side of the project. The end result that contributing to the RedHat or Fedora is pretty much impossible task.
Debian as a whole doesn't suffer so much from this problem. I guess because it doesn't attract the glamour-seekers, nor does it consider itself elite.
Because they are not for-profit organization which is actually made of people who like to do what they do.
1. China?
1.1 India?
Why everybody always forget the other behemoth nation?
I found some here, though I'm sure Google would recommend that you use the Stable release branch if you don't want things breaking.
I have seen those. Yes, they are mostly useless as official releases pushed silently to users are concerned.
Chrome opens tabs the way it does to try and keep a rudimentary history going, grouping related tabs together. You will be pleased to know, however, that there is an extension made just for people who don't like this, to enable "Firefox-like" tab ordering.
Well... it kind of ... works: tabs jump around as one opens them. I'm not sure whether it is better than nothing. It spares the menial work of bringing the tabs back in order, but the funky animation side-effect is sure confusing.
N.B. FireFox since 3.5 (or 3.6?) adopted the same tab ordering as the Chrome. But they provided an about:config option to manage it.
Anyway, I see that Chrome is getting better. But it is not there yet. Though if FireFox would continue its advances on front of being dumb and dumber, Chrome might get a real chance on my office laptop.
Thanks a bunch. Really. Google is even better than Mozilla at hiding functionality. (Though Mozilla definitely has better community and documentation: finding tips and tricks is easy, if needed at all. about:config takes care of 90% of issues.)
That leaves though another major hole: silent auto-updates. Year ago there was no option to be prompted on updates. Neither Chrome has yet a semi-decent release notes: even if it's going to suggest an update to me, it is nearly impossible to know what the update might bring as there are no release notes whatsoever. Here I'd love to be proven wrong again.
Another minor nag: Chrome opens page in a new tab, next to the current tab. Is it possible to make the new tab to be open as last one? I have in office three standard tabs open and for convenience I keep them as first three. From this first three tabs I open other pages/tabs. Now in Chrome the order gets messed up very quickly and one has to rearrange tabs constantly to keep the first three important tabs in the place where I expect to find them. Is there any option to disable that and make tabs behave as in pre-Fx3.5? (Fx has an about:config option for that.)
I would definitely like to use that at home.
But something tells me that Fx4 would be as dumb and useless as Chrome is - for work. At work I need something reliable and flexible to accommodate all the silly needs of the intranet web apps. Chrome's lacking bookmarks (no bookmarks menu; no bookmark shortcuts; no keyword search), poor/non-existent keyboard shortcuts and silent updates (which constantly screw up the most visited sites tab; silently break extensions) ruined my experience with it on pretty much all occasions I have tried to use it. Way too primitive, way too dumb, way too unmanageable.
Seems I have to start looking for a new browser for office sooner than expected. But that is not an easy task. FireFox at least to me is quite unique: uncluttered plain user interface interface with configurability second only to ... earlier Fx versions. Opera is too cluttered with unorthodox UI. IE is an archetype for Chrome and fails similarly. Should try SeaMonkey next...
My most hated feature of FireFox (borrowed from Opera) is the fast start-up with tab content being pulled from cache. Once I worked on severe regression: debugged for two+ weeks straight. Finally I localized/fixed the problem, checked in the changes and took rest of the week off. Next Monday in office I booted my laptop and started FireFox. As home page in office I have the shared team to do list web app. And it showed me that I *again* have the very same highest-prio issue on to do list, meaning that all the analysis/testing done before is wrong and after all the weeks of work regression still persists. Cold sweat wiped, gulped two cups of coffee, stretched my fingers and came back to the cubicle readying myself for another week+ of shitty work. Only to notice that the FireFox actually pulled the cached view of the to do list from the week before.....
Well, I meant that one just "Plug" PC with WinXP into the Net, and malware automatically starts "Play"ing on the computer.
Have you ever used IE? You do not need to accept anything, it all installs automatically. Plug and Play so to say, the way MS intended it.
P.S. Hint: in XP, IE has ActiveX on by default. IOW it would happily run any legit-looking binary code code off net without even telling the user.
Do you think an author should only be able to sell a book once?
Yes. Because that's how it is for everybody else.
Wow way to really abstract the problem until it doesn't resemble reality. It is a trade off.
Yes, trade off. (The usual excuse that artists and writers somehow have it worse than the rest frankly starts ticking me off.)
But you do not see that software designers or engineers sponsoring lobbies to screw the law, screw everybody else for our own profit.
Neither, unlike artists, one sees campaigns "oh this bastards bullying poor engineers!!!"
The artists are bathing in publicity and have no problem of abusing the publicity to earn money and to paint themselves poor and abused. And then demand special attention (aka money and publicity). This is blatantly unfair and that's why I'm openly throwing the f-word at them. They should learn their place and should learn how to earn their living. Everybody goes through it.
They've worked their entire lives prior to that day, learning and studying and working hard
Fuck You.
I too have studied/worked for more than a decade before becoming a specialist.
Do you think an author should only be able to sell a book once?
Yes. Because that's how it is for everybody else.
I work for McDonald's, at the corporate offices.
That explains a lot. (*)
Two of my friends had McJobs in past so I know for a fact that what you say is not completely true and rather naive. (E.g. dehydrated onions story or how to sell a day old hamburger.)
And even if the info from the friends is outdated or they (unlikely) lied to me - I personally still cannot go against the verdict given to the food by my own stomach.
(*) I went now through couple of large companies and, as a software developer, I was always surprised about the level of delusion in corporate offices: higher one is in the orgchart, more distorted picture of reality one has.
This level of bio-engineering should be made illegal.
I do not think that they employ anything complicated like that. It's more like "serial manufacturing" or "mass production" (compare to "cooking").
Occasionally when I get something from fast food, I get the feeling that their food is simply "empty". One feels full for a short time - often very short time - but the food apparently contains close to 0 of what my body actually needs. Why shortly after I feel hunger again.
If I were in the environment where there were no other choices but fast food, I'm sure I would overeat a lot. Simply because the food isn't nutritious enough. (And well it wasn't made to be nutritious: comparing prices to the rest it is obvious that fast food is made to be cheap.)
If Flash starts consuming all the CPU it can find
With the OOP feature it started doing precisely that. Very same behavior as in the Chrome - and one of the reasons that I do not even consider seriously it.
Gotta find a way to disable the enhancement soon.
P.S. I'd rather have Mozilla include FlashBlock instead of that by default.
I hope you're not a software developer.
Yeah, I am. And I'm saying it because I am software developer.
Because my experience tells me that idealists rarely reach they goal. Because by definition ideal isn't achievable. (Ironically, in software it is. And now tell me how useful the ideal piece of software is?)
Bad analogy time. Where would you prefer to live: in a perfect cave (as perfect as it could get) or in a modern house, probably with few flaws?
Frankly, looking at HTML5 v. XHTML2 (well I was forced to look into it) I easily see that XHTML2 would have never became an widely adopted standard. I (and like 99% of the netizens) would rather have a web page displayed slightly (or not so slightly) incorrectly rather than not displayed at all. That whole concept was doomed from the inception.
For some reason, W3C then abandoned the superior standard of XHTML2 and adopted the steaming pile that WHATWG dumped on them.
You contradict yourself. How "standard" (as in "pile of paper") can be superior to actually working implementation?
End-users (aka "content consumers") gain nothing from idealistic approach of pushing superior standard over working implementation. And HTML5 tried to address the needs of the end users by throwing bunch of fancy multimedia stuff into the standard. That to my limited knowledge wasn't even part of XHTML2.
In the end, WHATWG has very little manpower to simultaneously create a great spec and fix all implementations - or at least persuade all vendors to fix their implementations. It was even founded not by the companies, but by the people implementing the browsers... The developers spoke, W3C, facing the choice of being made irrelevant, obliged.