And he really didn't have a drink after that. Good thing he didn't have to deal with Churchill.
That's the reason Churchill insisted on having a drink with people. It's a tool to see if they could be trusted. In GWB, we have a guy that knows he can't trust himself.
The emails themselves matter very little. It will be the lies about it that do.
And btw, McCain/Palin had one chance to win: That a racist nation would reject a black candidate. We see how that went for them. So perilously close is a bit of an overstatement.
For those that still buy into the narrative; it hasn't been cool to be a racist in the US since about 1980.
Holy crap, the internet really speeds up the rewriting of history.
Bush never got "caught". And if he had been caught at what we think he did, that would also catch the 98 Senators that voted with him, who were privy to all the info he was. Everybody seems to forget that Bill Clinton himself, from "retirement", said we should go get Saddam. I guess the narrative that Bush Lied fits better ona bumper sticker.
And Nixon, after being "caught", was run out of town on a rail, disowned and dishonored.
Actually Biden is a good guy. He doesn't want to run, but they may make him, as he is the only one with a chance of beating Trump.
It would be better for everyone (in Washington) if the Republican establishment destroys Trump first. They want to win the general election of course, but they'll burn the party down before they let a left of center populist take control of it.
And yet he's the only one that has actually said that we need to get along with Putin and China, and that he would have no problem doing so.
(Funny how right after Trump floats the idea of meeting Putin in NY this week, magically a meeting between Putin and Obama is going to happen, which Obama denies asking for btw. Sort of like that time Trump holds a news conference asking Obama what he is hiding in his birth certificate, and suddenly 2 days later that long form is released. I see Trump getting shit done and he ain't even in charge of anything yet.)
If you hear the opposite of what a person says, who's the tapped one?
Heh. At least it's refreshing to see you come out from behind Hillary's skirt.
Did you ever think that they were simply going for economic development, however misguided? You can sell walnuts; nobody buys acorns. Have you ever tasted an acorn?
No, the only reasonable explanation is that Washington wanted to be sure one couldn't live off the land somewhere in bumfuck Mexico. And over fishing is done only to hold you back, not to, well, feed people fish.
Actually, I have the same wish as you. That you would go away to your stone age scrub land, never to plague those of us that aspire to a better quality of life again.
There's only one way to stop that. Sanders is the pressure relief valve. The safety valve if you will. If he wins, nothing really changes. You'll get some relief on tuition or student debt or a tax hike or something. (Don't get me wrong, all good stuff.)
But the powers that be will all still be in place, untouched by Sanders. I'm not impugning his motives. Like you, I believe Sanders is as honest as the day is long. Just like many of the individuals in Washington today. But with his 51-49 win, somewhat to the left of Obama, he simply won't have the power. You see, within the establishment, he is the anti-establishment candidate.
I'm not proposing a big conspiracy that "they" put him there simply to distract you. No conspiracy is required. He believes he can fix and tinker and repair the existing power structure in Washington as much as you do. Well, for those of you that still have hope. As you rightly point out, a good many don't. They will vote for whoever the party candidate is, don't believe the "news" at all, and/or are past caring anyway. Why care if there is no hope? THAT is the conspiracy. Bread and circus by itself doesn't require a conspiracy.
As soon as the electorate of a democracy quit caring, and a minority just numbly go through the motions of voting and all that, then the people left in power are those that were already rich and powerful. We only have the one guy with a chance to break some of that shit up. For every criticism that you have of Trump, we should look in the mirror, and blame ourselves that we let it get so bad that this guy is our best hope. Last hope. Only hope.
And a fucking slim hope at that. You are apparently still buying in to the media narrative on Trump. (Notice how they've changed their tactics these last 2 weeks.) When the left wing and right wing media (the right hates him even more) agree on something, that alone should set off alarm bells in your head. But hey, It's probably too late now anyway. They're not going to let him win the primary. And if he does, then he should fear for his safety. Just like Roosevelt, Kennedy, Reagan, who tricked their way in there and then didn't do as they were told. All they have to do is blame it on a crazy lone gunman. And we would all totally buy it, we've certainly been primed for it lately. Am I wrong?
Not my ideal guy. Narcissistic, (the media told us a couple of years ago that was no longer a sin in the age of Facebook, that it was a sin from the old days of the Religious Right, and now they're trying to walk that back) a thin-skinned fighting type, with an ego that wouldn't fit on Mt. Rushmore (although I bet he tries). You talk about sad? That's how far gone we are; a guy like this is the only one with a chance to save us. Well, the only one running. If Trump has a problem, it's that he's not smart enough to trick his way in there like those other three. He has the balls to say what he thinks before the fact. Big brass ones apparently.
This already happened before in Rome. And while we are not bound to their fate, they did buy themselves another 400 years...
I don't think he was chairman of one of the largest and oldest Swiss companies there is, hell, one of the largest conglomerates in the world. But he was on their board at one time, which I did not know.
How that has anything to do with the price of tea in China, I would love to hear, AC.
Don't think that European leaders just drink champagne all day with their pinkies stuck out. Maybe most of the time, but they also run spies and know things. Knowing what they know is more than you knew before. You'd have to be damned arrogant to think that they don't know anything worth knowing. Same goes for the very rich.
Borders? What borders? The US hardly has any. But what we have, has been breached pretty harshly a few times in the last 20 years.
Yes, the news sucks, but they didn't make up terrorism. They may sell it for profit, but they didn't invent it. Don't think we all fall for it hook line and sinker.
By the way, I'm guessing you're 12, and live in Seattle.
The problem is the politicians giving the missions. We've already been to the Moon, logically, Mars is next. Except we all know there is nothing logical about it. I won't even get into the real reasons we went to the Moon; you all know them.
I might ask NASA what they think we should do. As the politician in charge, I'd take that with a grain of salt, but certainly give it due consideration. The main saltiness would be that they want to do exactly what the appropriating politicians want to do.
In the last thread a guy suggested a real spaceship. Sort of like a space station, except able to attach enough thrusters to go somewhere. A rotating habitat surrounded by a meter of water. Sounds damned expensive, but peanuts I think, compared to all this Mars shit.
Rich people would pay, scientists could study, astronauts could explore; and you don't die from being in it too long.
Then, after it's been a killer space station for a while, and perhaps looped the Moon and orbited an asteroid or something else neat; you have the option of firing it off towards Mars if you must.
That beats the shit out of focusing all our wealth on disposable stuff for the one single purpose of placing a footprint on red dirt.
We dragnet the whole planet in an attempt to keep the world safe from terrorists. The only effect they might feel from that is an attack that didn't happen. Right or wrong, that's what we're doing.
They target us specifically, stealing what amounts to money. The effect from that is that they are enriched at our expense. That's what they are doing.
See, I was thinking; if it was that easy, why didn't Obama make that call 7 years ago? Or hell; fly over there even. They do give him use of a plane. A nice one.
No, he can't. It's just anything to continue the narrative that the US is no better than anyone else, and usually worse. Any frikkin subject can lend itself to piling it on.
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And he really didn't have a drink after that. Good thing he didn't have to deal with Churchill.
That's the reason Churchill insisted on having a drink with people. It's a tool to see if they could be trusted. In GWB, we have a guy that knows he can't trust himself.
Of course, hindsight is 20/20...
The emails themselves matter very little. It will be the lies about it that do.
And btw, McCain/Palin had one chance to win: That a racist nation would reject a black candidate. We see how that went for them. So perilously close is a bit of an overstatement.
For those that still buy into the narrative; it hasn't been cool to be a racist in the US since about 1980.
This. So really, Mr. Andersen, it is your fault that we hate the government. You can blame King George if you want. :)
Actually, it's worked for her every time. Except maybe this one. We shall see.
Holy crap, the internet really speeds up the rewriting of history.
Bush never got "caught". And if he had been caught at what we think he did, that would also catch the 98 Senators that voted with him, who were privy to all the info he was. Everybody seems to forget that Bill Clinton himself, from "retirement", said we should go get Saddam. I guess the narrative that Bush Lied fits better ona bumper sticker.
And Nixon, after being "caught", was run out of town on a rail, disowned and dishonored.
Actually Biden is a good guy. He doesn't want to run, but they may make him, as he is the only one with a chance of beating Trump.
It would be better for everyone (in Washington) if the Republican establishment destroys Trump first. They want to win the general election of course, but they'll burn the party down before they let a left of center populist take control of it.
And yet he's the only one that has actually said that we need to get along with Putin and China, and that he would have no problem doing so.
(Funny how right after Trump floats the idea of meeting Putin in NY this week, magically a meeting between Putin and Obama is going to happen, which Obama denies asking for btw. Sort of like that time Trump holds a news conference asking Obama what he is hiding in his birth certificate, and suddenly 2 days later that long form is released. I see Trump getting shit done and he ain't even in charge of anything yet.)
If you hear the opposite of what a person says, who's the tapped one?
Heh. At least it's refreshing to see you come out from behind Hillary's skirt.
Did you ever think that they were simply going for economic development, however misguided? You can sell walnuts; nobody buys acorns. Have you ever tasted an acorn?
No, the only reasonable explanation is that Washington wanted to be sure one couldn't live off the land somewhere in bumfuck Mexico. And over fishing is done only to hold you back, not to, well, feed people fish.
Actually, I have the same wish as you. That you would go away to your stone age scrub land, never to plague those of us that aspire to a better quality of life again.
There's only one way to stop that. Sanders is the pressure relief valve. The safety valve if you will. If he wins, nothing really changes. You'll get some relief on tuition or student debt or a tax hike or something. (Don't get me wrong, all good stuff.)
But the powers that be will all still be in place, untouched by Sanders. I'm not impugning his motives. Like you, I believe Sanders is as honest as the day is long. Just like many of the individuals in Washington today. But with his 51-49 win, somewhat to the left of Obama, he simply won't have the power. You see, within the establishment, he is the anti-establishment candidate.
I'm not proposing a big conspiracy that "they" put him there simply to distract you. No conspiracy is required. He believes he can fix and tinker and repair the existing power structure in Washington as much as you do. Well, for those of you that still have hope. As you rightly point out, a good many don't. They will vote for whoever the party candidate is, don't believe the "news" at all, and/or are past caring anyway. Why care if there is no hope? THAT is the conspiracy. Bread and circus by itself doesn't require a conspiracy.
As soon as the electorate of a democracy quit caring, and a minority just numbly go through the motions of voting and all that, then the people left in power are those that were already rich and powerful. We only have the one guy with a chance to break some of that shit up. For every criticism that you have of Trump, we should look in the mirror, and blame ourselves that we let it get so bad that this guy is our best hope. Last hope. Only hope.
And a fucking slim hope at that. You are apparently still buying in to the media narrative on Trump. (Notice how they've changed their tactics these last 2 weeks.) When the left wing and right wing media (the right hates him even more) agree on something, that alone should set off alarm bells in your head. But hey, It's probably too late now anyway. They're not going to let him win the primary. And if he does, then he should fear for his safety. Just like Roosevelt, Kennedy, Reagan, who tricked their way in there and then didn't do as they were told. All they have to do is blame it on a crazy lone gunman. And we would all totally buy it, we've certainly been primed for it lately. Am I wrong?
Not my ideal guy. Narcissistic, (the media told us a couple of years ago that was no longer a sin in the age of Facebook, that it was a sin from the old days of the Religious Right, and now they're trying to walk that back) a thin-skinned fighting type, with an ego that wouldn't fit on Mt. Rushmore (although I bet he tries). You talk about sad? That's how far gone we are; a guy like this is the only one with a chance to save us. Well, the only one running. If Trump has a problem, it's that he's not smart enough to trick his way in there like those other three. He has the balls to say what he thinks before the fact. Big brass ones apparently.
This already happened before in Rome. And while we are not bound to their fate, they did buy themselves another 400 years...
"kept private so it could be for the benefit of the Clinton's vs the Democrat party or the current administration"
That sort of sounds like fair play in politics. I guess I'm a bit of a cynic.
It will be the benefits for her foundation that really gets her into trouble.
This. You don't see it in Excel (well I don't think I have); you see it when you pull your data into something else.
I don't think he was chairman of one of the largest and oldest Swiss companies there is, hell, one of the largest conglomerates in the world. But he was on their board at one time, which I did not know.
How that has anything to do with the price of tea in China, I would love to hear, AC.
Don't think that European leaders just drink champagne all day with their pinkies stuck out. Maybe most of the time, but they also run spies and know things. Knowing what they know is more than you knew before. You'd have to be damned arrogant to think that they don't know anything worth knowing. Same goes for the very rich.
Borders? What borders? The US hardly has any. But what we have, has been breached pretty harshly a few times in the last 20 years.
Yes, the news sucks, but they didn't make up terrorism. They may sell it for profit, but they didn't invent it. Don't think we all fall for it hook line and sinker.
By the way, I'm guessing you're 12, and live in Seattle.
Until then, you got a link?
I'm skeptical of double.
But the fact is, you have a valuable thing that is useful for a long, long time. You haven't wasted your money on a vacation.
The problem is the politicians giving the missions. We've already been to the Moon, logically, Mars is next. Except we all know there is nothing logical about it. I won't even get into the real reasons we went to the Moon; you all know them.
I might ask NASA what they think we should do. As the politician in charge, I'd take that with a grain of salt, but certainly give it due consideration. The main saltiness would be that they want to do exactly what the appropriating politicians want to do.
In the last thread a guy suggested a real spaceship. Sort of like a space station, except able to attach enough thrusters to go somewhere. A rotating habitat surrounded by a meter of water. Sounds damned expensive, but peanuts I think, compared to all this Mars shit.
Rich people would pay, scientists could study, astronauts could explore; and you don't die from being in it too long.
Then, after it's been a killer space station for a while, and perhaps looped the Moon and orbited an asteroid or something else neat; you have the option of firing it off towards Mars if you must.
That beats the shit out of focusing all our wealth on disposable stuff for the one single purpose of placing a footprint on red dirt.
What? Over 8 billion dollars and 15,000 employees and all they can do is hook up an ODB reader to the port?
Dude I can make a quick trip to NAPA and do that myself on my tiny little salary.
Yes, I totally expected that they actually tested the cars.
We dragnet the whole planet in an attempt to keep the world safe from terrorists. The only effect they might feel from that is an attack that didn't happen. Right or wrong, that's what we're doing.
They target us specifically, stealing what amounts to money. The effect from that is that they are enriched at our expense. That's what they are doing.
Totally the same thing.
Holy crap they are going to watch. Carefully even. And then he's going to assess. China better watch their ass.
Done and done. Tied off nicely. Good job Obama!
We already trusted North Korea. We gave them food, fuel, and a nuclear reactor in exchange for not developing a bomb.
Am I the only one that remembers that?
I know right. Hell, I'd have modded it back up, but they don't have a mod that even fits that. 'Underrated' would be an insult to honor.
All I can do is save it. I think I'll put it in my work email signature rotation.
See, I was thinking; if it was that easy, why didn't Obama make that call 7 years ago? Or hell; fly over there even. They do give him use of a plane. A nice one.
No, he can't. It's just anything to continue the narrative that the US is no better than anyone else, and usually worse. Any frikkin subject can lend itself to piling it on.
You've nailed it; there is no decent way to address this now, anymore than there is a way to change the past.
The only thing that could be done is to enforce the regulations in a timely manner.
Dang, I already commented. Too funny.
Totally agree with the huge truck vs cars that sip diesel hypocrisy.