Are you willing to prepare a dish in the morning and put it in the oven before you leave for work?
Yup, it's currently called a crok-pot. I use mine all of the time. I would love to be able to have an oven that I could trust as much as the good ol' crok.
So how exactly would you define an "attack" and how would that differ from what we saw here?
given that the operator was responsible for a 200K piece of equipment, that no one really knows what an attack looks like, and had to make a quick descision I cant say I would have done any different.
As far as you or I know if the operator had not acted in this way the equipment may be swimming with the titaic.
So when our spacecraft fly through the upper atmosphere of mercury in the coming
years and find oxygen we can then scientifically state that mercury harbors life?
If there is oxygen in the surface somewhere then there will be oxygen in the atmosphere. It could come from surface temperatures, "solar" UV, energetic particles, or micro-meteorite impacts. My only point is that the existence of oxygen in the atmosphere is not a litmus test for life.
I remember in grad school my prof. discussed an event in the 60's 70's? where we did exactly that.
I dont remember if he discussed any specific orbit or L shell that was involved but I do remember that he stated that everything in that orbit was knocked out.
Does anyone have any factual references to this 'event?'.
Mod parent up and with extra nerd points for making the math python compatible!
As parent indirectly points out cleaning the junk is a task many orders of magnitude more difficult and expensive then putting the junk there in the first place.
We have junk/landfill problems here on the ground that we do not have a solution for. Sure we should try to minimize the amount of refuse we leave in orbit but unless/until we are ready to abandon space because we simply pollute it too much, we should try to find solutions to the junk problems here on the ground. Once that problem is solved then we can try to apply the solutions to space.
Even if it cost you like a gazzilion dollars to clean your garage with only a miniscule chance you would ever come in contact with the hypersonic junk, and then only a miniscule fraction of those times it would pose an actual problem?
That would be one seriously expensive spring cleaning
You can launch a ton of custom made stuff for the price of just one dude
You do know that it takes an army of people to build these things right?
Do you really think you can make/assemble any device worth anything with the junk flying around for cheaper than it would cost just to build it here and launch it? I'm not convinced you could do that if all of the parts were sitting in a lab on the ground somewhere, with a whole team at your disposal, to say nothing of just a couple of people in zero G.
Before we even begin to suggest that NASA should attempt this sort of thing lets see companies right here on Earth use the landfills full of old computer parts for something significant.
"So, in your summation, 'journalism' is a big shitstorm of biased ranting, endorsed and backed up by a 'community' of whomever has pounded their way into power by establishing a nebulous degree of 'karma' by parroting comments that resonate with the groupthink of the forum?"
close, so very close.
'journalism' is a big shitstorm of biased ranting
Yes
endorsed and backed up by a 'community'
No, I read lots of things on/. that I do not endorse. And community==viewers==subscribers
whomever has pounded their way into power by establishing a nebulous degree of 'karma'
Yup, how else do you explain Andy Rooney or Katie Couric or "insert favorite journalist here..."
parroting comments that resonate with the groupthink of the forum?
In many cases yes, but not always. Grammar and spelling aside, is there really any difference between KarmaWhore127s opinion on/. and the opinion of some dude who writes for the post? Not in my book. When I read a piece on/. or wired or cnn I understand that it is an opinion, nothing more, and in each and every case I understand said opinion probably 'resonates' with the forums groupthink
"Yeah, but then unlike the Post, Slashdot is primarily a big biased blog and a few editors who pick stories at random without checking them. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's entertaining enough, but it's no journalism."
You may define journalism in any way you see fit, and thanks for your 1970's point of view.
If you do not understand that/. == journalism then you have indeed missed the boat.
/. Is the inevitable evolution of journalism, with editorial powers distributed to a wider audience. I spend far more time reading/. Posts then I do reading traditional news media blogs/posts/articles/... whatever you would like to call them today.
You may continue to place your hands over your eyes, fingers in your ears, and hand over your mouth and trumpet "journalism" but you are posting to the future of journalism, like it or not.
I understand what you are saying and I do think that things get way over-hyped
sometimes. However the investment in space takes decades to cash in on. Had it not been for the investments in the technology, there would be no weather sateliites today. The low-power low-mass high-performance instruments we invest in today will enable technologies in the future. The isotopic mass-spectrometers or the miniaturized neutron detectors being designed as we speak may well be the security devices used in airports in the future. It's not a invest now, cash in tomorrow type of investment and (I agree with you) we should not claim that the reason for doing it is to make your life better. The reason we do it is for the science, that is the purpose. The spin-off technologies that will happen are a natural outflow of the investment.
We all know that the investment in space has done nothing to enable silly little technologies like weather satellites, telecommunications, etc... things that certainly don't improve the lives of people.
By this logic there has never, ever, been anything new, ever.
I can see you in 1903:
"Calm down now Orville and Wilbur, that little flying machine is nothing new, it's just a bunch of parts that are commonplace. All you have done is combine them in one package."
Your right about one thing though...
"Anytime something new comes out, you can break it down into its base components and claim it's nothing new."
"Funny how you gave a ringing endorsement of the teachings of Jesus after that whole speech about how God doesn't exist. FWIW, I'm not any sort of fundie idiot, but let's just say I won't be standing anywhere near you during the next lightning storm.:o"
I'm not sure how you define "idiot" but I don't recall any scientific papers that report on a statistically significant increase in lightning strikes due to ones proximity to a person with different values or beliefs.
Are you being serious?, or were you just not paying attention last month when every other car in France was torched by disenchanted French-born "immigrants"?
Granted, tolerance and acceptance in the states is hard to find these days (although it can be found), but to think for a second that these things are not common across the planet (and yes in Europe too) is a clinical case of I-see-nothing, I-hear-nothing.
And for the record I am a liberal atheist.
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"It works with everything"... "never work for me through trillion"
Um, that is either a contradiction or although I don't drink I've hit the scotch too early today.
"Other than the cool factor, the article doesn't touch on what good it will do us to study particles older than the sun. Anyone in the know care to elaborate? "
Well, it's like Galactic Cosmic Rays (GCRs) hit us all of the time, (thought to be) accelerated by super nova shocks many (suns ago) it does make sense to try to understand their acceleration mechanisms, the spectra, and their (if possible) temporal evolution (doubtful, but a "wet" dream of mine).
Slashdot Mirror
Are you willing to prepare a dish in the morning and put it in the oven before you leave for work?
Yup, it's currently called a crok-pot. I use mine all of the time. I would love to be able to have an oven that I could trust as much as the good ol' crok.
So how exactly would you define an "attack" and how would that differ from what we saw here?
given that the operator was responsible for a 200K piece of equipment, that no one really knows what an attack looks like, and had to make a quick descision I cant say I would have done any different.
As far as you or I know if the operator had not acted in this way the equipment may be swimming with the titaic.
the company "Google" deserves better than the slamming it's getting here on Slashdot
/. If /. things there is a problem with Google then there IS a problem
Come on now. There exists no fourm anywhere that is more pro Google than
All you have to do is look for atmospheric oxygen
So when our spacecraft fly through the upper atmosphere of mercury in the coming years and find oxygen we can then scientifically state that mercury harbors life?
If there is oxygen in the surface somewhere then there will be oxygen in the atmosphere. It could come from surface temperatures, "solar" UV, energetic particles, or micro-meteorite impacts. My only point is that the existence of oxygen in the atmosphere is not a litmus test for life.
I remember in grad school my prof. discussed an event in the 60's 70's? where we did exactly that.
I dont remember if he discussed any specific orbit or L shell that was involved but I do remember that he stated that everything in that orbit was knocked out.
Does anyone have any factual references to this 'event?'.
I've wondered about this for a while.
Oh I think outside the box...
My problem is my box does not extend beyond the exosphere.
If yours does, then size really does matter.
Mod parent up and with extra nerd points for making the math python compatible!
As parent indirectly points out cleaning the junk is a task many orders of magnitude more difficult and expensive then putting the junk there in the first place.
We have junk/landfill problems here on the ground that we do not have a solution for. Sure we should try to minimize the amount of refuse we leave in orbit but unless/until we are ready to abandon space because we simply pollute it too much, we should try to find solutions to the junk problems here on the ground. Once that problem is solved then we can try to apply the solutions to space.
Really?
Even if it cost you like a gazzilion dollars to clean your garage with only a miniscule chance you would ever come in contact with the hypersonic junk, and then only a miniscule fraction of those times it would pose an actual problem?
That would be one seriously expensive spring cleaning
WTF? And who is going to put it together?
You can launch a ton of custom made stuff for the price of just one dude
You do know that it takes an army of people to build these things right?
Do you really think you can make/assemble any device worth anything with the junk flying around for cheaper than it would cost just to build it here and launch it? I'm not convinced you could do that if all of the parts were sitting in a lab on the ground somewhere, with a whole team at your disposal, to say nothing of just a couple of people in zero G.
Before we even begin to suggest that NASA should attempt this sort of thing lets see companies right here on Earth use the landfills full of old computer parts for something significant.
And that is going to make money for someone...how?
The cost of the salvage s/c + 100M to launch and for what?
To hook up with some piece of junk that does not work any more?
Not in your or my lifetime.
"So, in your summation, 'journalism' is a big shitstorm of biased ranting, endorsed and backed up by a 'community' of whomever has pounded their way into power by establishing a nebulous degree of 'karma' by parroting comments that resonate with the groupthink of the forum?"
/. that I do not endorse. And community==viewers==subscribers
/. and the opinion of some dude who writes for the post? Not in my book. When I read a piece on /. or wired or cnn I understand that it is an opinion, nothing more, and in each and every case I understand said opinion probably 'resonates' with the forums groupthink
close, so very close.
'journalism' is a big shitstorm of biased ranting
Yes
endorsed and backed up by a 'community'
No, I read lots of things on
whomever has pounded their way into power by establishing a nebulous degree of 'karma'
Yup, how else do you explain Andy Rooney or Katie Couric or "insert favorite journalist here..."
parroting comments that resonate with the groupthink of the forum?
In many cases yes, but not always. Grammar and spelling aside, is there really any difference between KarmaWhore127s opinion on
"Yeah, but then unlike the Post, Slashdot is primarily a big biased blog and a few editors who pick stories at random without checking them. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's entertaining enough, but it's no journalism."
/. == journalism then you have indeed missed the boat.
/. Is the inevitable evolution of journalism, with editorial powers distributed to a wider audience. I spend far more time reading /. Posts then I do reading traditional news media blogs/posts/articles/... whatever you would like to call them today.
You may continue to place your hands over your eyes, fingers in your ears, and hand over your mouth and trumpet "journalism" but you are posting to the future of journalism, like it or not.
You may define journalism in any way you see fit, and thanks for your 1970's point of view.
If you do not understand that
With NO apologies to James T. Kirk "I need my pain"
I understand what you are saying and I do think that things get way over-hyped sometimes. However the investment in space takes decades to cash in on. Had it not been for the investments in the technology, there would be no weather sateliites today. The low-power low-mass high-performance instruments we invest in today will enable technologies in the future. The isotopic mass-spectrometers or the miniaturized neutron detectors being designed as we speak may well be the security devices used in airports in the future. It's not a invest now, cash in tomorrow type of investment and (I agree with you) we should not claim that the reason for doing it is to make your life better. The reason we do it is for the science, that is the purpose. The spin-off technologies that will happen are a natural outflow of the investment.
Right.....
We all know that the investment in space has done nothing to enable silly little technologies like weather satellites, telecommunications, etc... things that certainly don't improve the lives of people.
And Tang... Don't forget the Tang
Your kidding... Right?
By this logic there has never, ever, been anything new, ever.
I can see you in 1903:
"Calm down now Orville and Wilbur, that little flying machine is nothing new, it's just a bunch of parts that are commonplace. All you have done is combine them in one package."
Your right about one thing though...
"Anytime something new comes out, you can break it down into its base components and claim it's nothing new."
It's called the periodic table.
Info on the mission can be found at:
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/
The mechanism through which I get paid
well, I read it!
"One interesting disclosure was the war games map with all the nuclear strike sites marked on it."
A link to that content would be nice?
"Funny how you gave a ringing endorsement of the teachings of Jesus after that whole speech about how God doesn't exist. FWIW, I'm not any sort of fundie idiot, but let's just say I won't be standing anywhere near you during the next lightning storm. :o"
I'm not sure how you define "idiot" but I don't recall any scientific papers that report on a statistically significant increase in lightning strikes due to ones proximity to a person with different values or beliefs.
"Why doesn't the slashdot community glom onto Yoism, the first Open Source Religion [wikipedia.org]?"
/. has found the one "true" church..
I think it's because most of
Chruch of the Flying Spaghetti Monster http://www.venganza.org/
Are you being serious?, or were you just not paying attention last month when every other car in France was torched by disenchanted French-born "immigrants"?
Granted, tolerance and acceptance in the states is hard to find these days (although it can be found), but to think for a second that these things are not common across the planet (and yes in Europe too) is a clinical case of I-see-nothing, I-hear-nothing.
And for the record I am a liberal atheist.
"It works with everything" ... "never work for me through trillion"
Um, that is either a contradiction or although I don't drink I've hit the scotch too early today.
"Other than the cool factor, the article doesn't touch on what good it will do us to study particles older than the sun. Anyone in the know care to elaborate? "
Well, it's like Galactic Cosmic Rays (GCRs) hit us all of the time, (thought to be) accelerated by super nova shocks many (suns ago) it does make sense to try to understand their acceleration mechanisms, the spectra, and their (if possible) temporal evolution (doubtful, but a "wet" dream of mine).