I've been with them for years now... not the cheapest around but I've never had a problem with them and I know for a fact their infrastructure exists.
Checkout their forums here http://forums.rochen.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2
I will admit to knowing the CEO reasonably well... but that's only because when they were small it was only a 2 man outfit... nowadays they've spread into Australia (with news of that announced on yahoo) host clustered severs for premier league football clubs in the UK and large open source bulletin board organizations.
I've used many hosts in the past, some just sucked, others over charged or over sold and I have to say that if you want a serious player in the hosting game these guys suck the least!
My username on there is Nossie, but I don't get any financial gain from recommending them. Again they really know their shit, are not a back bedroom or basement operation and above all actually want to provide their customers with the best available products and service.
An EXCELLENT PC that would last a few years before going out of date in 1995 was £1800-2000 Even then I could have picked up a £500 4Mb ram DX2 66... but I could have hardly ran magic carpet on it never mind anything else !
An EXCELLENT PC that would last a few years before going out of date in 2005 was £1800-2000 Even then I could have picked up a £500 celeron... but I could have hardly ran Dark age of Camelot on it never mind anything else !
I built a £600 computer for a friend 2 years ago using the best available components at the time for the price point (sadly including an integrated motherboard...) Will he be running vista anytime soon? I doubt it (scratching basic requirements) (his wife btw demanded windows at the time)
So yes... you can buy an apple mini for $600 and if you go the official upgrade path with apple in the uk a reasonable mini will cost you more like £999 and will still be dead in the water in less than 2 years !
The only thing that has really changed is media... You can run reasonable quality digital audio and video on an entry level Pc unlike 10 years ago but when HDTV/HDMI comes into play the majority of those PC's will also be dead in the water...
I guess you could also say the same for business workstations and office needs... but I'm thinking if Microsoft get their way you'll need a £1,000+ computer to run the next office at the same functionality as your £600 3 year old computer runs office 2000 today. At least however, unlike 1995, I can have a substantial spreadsheet open and not have the computer creaking and shaking like its something out of the dark ages... that is of course, unless I was running it in DOS... and things were still fast and furious then.
The point of the argument I'm trying to make here is that YES you can now buy a computer for $600 that does the majority of home tasks you need for today. The computer will run a good percentage of games available within the last 6 months and before at medium level graphics but it wont do you any good in the near future... its a consumable, an appliance if you will.
In the above respect your mac mini is very much a 'console' in itself, and just like the PS2 or xBox will be downgraded to the 'standalone dvd player' variety within a number of years... For what the mini does I think its great, but to suggest its competitive to the PS3, 360 or even possibly the Wii I think is pushing it a little. Admittedly I can add more memory to a mac mini... but the graphics card is a great letdown for any serious gamer.
I dont think things have changed that much apart from to suggest the signal to noise ratio has significantly increased since the price of a bog standard PC has came down in general. But that could be considered elitist, and I realise there are many exceptions... but I think I preferred the internet way back when the majority of usage was academic -- at least I didn't have to put up with leet speak and all the other crap that I believe has increased (porn excluded) due to the commoditization of computers.
Disclaimer: just to note I think that
A) Sony has over priced its product here and expects everyone to pay the brand (being a Nintendo fanboy I hope people dont *coff*)... but like the sheeple in the UK that cant afford to live a healthy life but can seem to buy a £80 designer 'brand' top... it wouldn't surprise me if many families in the uk went without food just so their kid could buy into the next Sony generation.
B) I realise my examples above were very PC based but nothing was meant as a dig to apple as a company or their products. I have a highly modified Apple cube that I use as a webserver/fileshare/torrents etc that I absolutely adore and will continue to tinker with. I feel that like the Mini, the cube was ahead of its time and the amount of engineering involved is amazing... but then I do have a 256mb 5600 gfx card in the cube.
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All they would need to show is the security camera from the hotel roof and we'd be happy ? (for the most part) I agree here that it is a military installation... but we aren't asking for information related to what the pentagon is made of...
We aren't asking about what hit the pentagon to penetrate so many layers.... it was a 757 right? we all know what aircraft are made from? Or was it? That is the question here.... The administration is TELLING us the information... all we are looking for is a photo or footage that properly shows such proof... why cant they provide that? It wouldn't be showing anymore details than we already know
watch it... is the pentagon.. the most important American military installation really that badly defended?
Then please make up your mind. I don't know if you have already but I think you really should watch it;) tell me what you think afterwards.
You should also look out the 3 part docu on 'The power of nightmares' to get background information on whom the Neo conservatives are, what they have done and what they plan to achieve (that they refer to in this film)
not essential but I thought TPON was an excellent docu also.
where are their relatives? where are their bodies? where is their luggage?
I happen to live about 30 miles north west of Lockerbie in Scotland... when the PANAM flight 103 exploded over lockerbie, luggage was thrown miles away from the impact zone, the wreckage sadly landed on the houses obliterating the small town. http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features /lockerbie/story/
I realise a 757 or 767 is a good bit smaller than a 747 but as you can see from this one photo here: http://www.nickdidlick.com/recentpix/favoritepix/F avoritePictures/source/23.html
aircraft just don't disappear no matter how hard they hit.
jimho uneducated opinion.... the tailfin of this supposed aircraft at the pentagon should atleast be visible.... what is left of the wings should probably be scattered across the lawn... but there is no sign of that? just one 16ft wide hole in an unoccupied part of the building that remained there until the structual integrety of that wing collapsed.
There has been so much press about the aircraft that hit the towers.... but so little information was ever given out about this one.... it was just brushed under the carpet.
home security had been breached and the terrorists fired a missile at the pentagon... I'd buy it !
I also think the government has good reason to keep the above possible event secret. imagine the embarassment of having one of your own missiles fired at you...
Still not seen any evidence of an airliner... and certainly no reason why the original penetration was only 16ft wide.
That is what I call BS on... not who did it but what did it.
"I heard a very loud, quick whooshing sound. I was convinced it was a missile. It came in so fast - it sounded nothing like an airplane." Lon Rains - editor for Space News (Pentagon eyewitness)
there are eyewitness accounts that state radiation was higher than baseline for that area... after the crash that would suggest a warhead of some form also...
video footage taken by eyewitnesses at the scene show a very small hole 16ft!! (in comparison to a 757) in the pentagon wall before the roof collapsed with no evidence of aircraft wreckage and even half open filing cabinets with papers hanging out unburnt on the interior sides of the damaged building.
I don't pretend to be an expert.... and I'm not even very active in shouting how much of a conspiracy this is...
But you tell me where the wings are? the tail? where is FAA reports of the wreckage they should now have to investigate?
All I'm saying is that planes no matter how small DO NOT fully disintegrate on impact...
Is it pure coincidence that area of the pentagon had been shut for refurbishment that week too?
It's all just so wrong on so many levels. The BBC first reported it to be a light aircraft but suddenly its a 757 ?
the security around the pentagon is a joke... if that's all the video footage they have..
Look... I really usually don't go by all the conspiracy crap but I ask you to watch this with an open mind and compare it to what the gov has just released... http://www.911inplanesite.com/
I torrented it, you might want to do the same O:) Ignore the stuff about the two towers... thats another kettle of fish.
conspiracy aside it really does raise a hell of a lot of questions that have never been answered
just thought I'd add that I have to agree with you...
I still play DAOC a lot and I cant wait for mythic to bring out Warhammer also... first time I've heard of the rumours but if so it will seriously put that purchase into question:-\
I could state that I dont know many people that have carried hundreds of cds on a subway or at a bus station.... and I dont know many people that actually NEED 100 albums unless they are going halfway around the world... or jail.
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Even if it did work... the 'windows update' link on the start menu is hardwired to I.E even if you've set everything to use your default browser : firefox !
I think links within msn messenger still open IE by default even if your default is FF... and windows update only uses IE due to supposed active x crap... I'm sure there are more.
then who did? I might have bought one if they went the AMD route...
but then I'm just as happy over powering my G4 cube with dual cpu's...:-$
heh.
after buying my cube 2nd hand I really thought about my next computer being a dual G5 dual core monster... then they announced their partnership with intel and I laughed my ass off..
history ?
BeOS changed to x86 architecture and died (their change was their 'last hope for peace') NeXT changed to x86 architecture and died (their change was their 'last hope for peace' but by shear fluke apple wanted jobs back)
Apple changes to x86 compatible architecture and...... ? Mikey Dell wanting to sell dell/apple branded intels? apple to extinction ? long live the ipod?
Without the inherently impressive PowerPC arch inside an apple I'm back to my AMD worshipping days... Steve you should listen to me because the reason most people bought apples was because they were fed up eating MS compatible pears...
I really don't want x86 arch to take over the world like Microsoft did:-| Alas, I feel Apple may have hit the last nail in its coffin by histories regards.
so you dont allow them in... when they go run out and buy one -- when they come back with the police you have a license and I dont think they can do anything about it... although IANAL..
do you honestly think they have the resources to do that? I think it works better if the residence has never had a license...
I kinda agree with you Screwmaster... but if people want small computers rather than just a phone then why wont you give it up and admit that?
I have a XDAII phone... prolly one of the most powerful 'phones' on the market..
People say to me 'hey your phone is huge' But I look at it from another perspective... A mobile phone does one main thing -- make calls (one they play a few games of Bejeweled 2 their minds change)
My PDA does one main thing -- works as a generic pda... The plus side to this and many other particular pda's is that it makes calls and includes the majority (if not all) of the features expected in a phone.
The truth is.... I dont want to carry a phone, pda, GBA and ipod around with me at all times (I dont see the point 'yet' of cameras in phones)
I have an Ixus 700 for photos... and a NDS for games... but unless I want to do one of those things specifically -- my phone does all I need. (being a huge Zelda fan doesn't help my Nintendo addiction)
I have a 1GB SD card I use to store my games, apps and music.. not quite ipod size but I dont need to carry my cd/mp3 collection around with me at all times... to me, the size of your ipod HD is the size you wish your penis was... unless that is, you do a hell of a lot of travelling or *insert some other very good reason for carrying 40GB of music around with you*
You want to know the main reason why I love my phone? I'm lazy with contacts... plain and simple, whither its (e-)mail addresses, birthdays, phone numbers etc etc I scribble them down then lose the scrap bit of paper... Now? I just fill a contact in on my phone... then sync it to outlook when I get home (I hate MS OS's but love Outlook) and I can keep a lovely formated database of my friends and family.
I'm kinda thinking that a pda/phone is a 'supercar' of the 'phonr' world... yes my ass was raped on royalties, technology and current components... but overtime those things will be comoditized and brought into the consumer market (whither we like it or not) viruses and all... air conditioning will become standard and the world will be a happy place *coff*
I dont feel very smug about what I have.... I work in a stupid fricking bakery 10 hours a day to meet UK minimum wage -- so I EARNED what I've bought... yes I live with my parents, yes I dont have children to pay for but I do love my technology and it shows.
The point I'm trying make here, is that I dont have a huge brick of a phone..
I have a small computer with all the features of the common phone.. I *expect* it to get viruses.. I expect it to crash (no MS comments here please!) and I expect it to do what I bought it for.
I use my phone for most of the features that I daily use my computer for.. I just don't need to carry around a 'heavy' laptop to do them..
OTOH this virii crap is all FUD FUD and more FUD... The reason is that the majority of phones all run different firmware and roms catered for that particular phone.. and if I remember rightly, that bluetooth virus requires someone to accept it to actually work!
I feel that ALL the antivirus corporations are just waiting for everyone to catch the virus buzzword and jump on the bandwagon (they will be there to 'help' of course) but I've never heard of one major virus outbreak that wasnt down to the operators stupidity (corporate or otherwise) to justify installing it on mine.
Just my 2 cents.... I hated mobiles and never had one before I bought my pda... but since I have and use 90% of the features... I dont think I'd want to ever go back.
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I'd suggest you went with rochen.com
... but that's only because when they were small it was only a 2 man outfit... nowadays they've spread into Australia (with news of that announced on yahoo) host clustered severs for premier league football clubs in the UK and large open source bulletin board organizations.
I've been with them for years now... not the cheapest around but I've never had a problem with them and I know for a fact their infrastructure exists.
Checkout their forums here http://forums.rochen.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2
I will admit to knowing the CEO reasonably well
I've used many hosts in the past, some just sucked, others over charged or over sold and I have to say that if you want a serious player in the hosting game these guys suck the least!
My username on there is Nossie, but I don't get any financial gain from recommending them. Again they really know their shit, are not a back bedroom or basement operation and above all actually want to provide their customers with the best available products and service.
In the uk at least...
... but I could have hardly ran Dark age of Camelot on it never mind anything else !
... but like the sheeple in the UK that cant afford to live a healthy life but can seem to buy a £80 designer 'brand' top... it wouldn't surprise me if many families in the uk went without food just so their kid could buy into the next Sony generation.
An EXCELLENT PC that would last a few years before going out of date in 1995 was £1800-2000
Even then I could have picked up a £500 4Mb ram DX2 66... but I could have hardly ran magic carpet on it never mind anything else !
An EXCELLENT PC that would last a few years before going out of date in 2005 was £1800-2000
Even then I could have picked up a £500 celeron
I built a £600 computer for a friend 2 years ago using the best available components at the time for the price point (sadly including an integrated motherboard...) Will he be running vista anytime soon? I doubt it (scratching basic requirements) (his wife btw demanded windows at the time)
So yes... you can buy an apple mini for $600 and if you go the official upgrade path with apple in the uk a reasonable mini will cost you more like £999 and will still be dead in the water in less than 2 years !
The only thing that has really changed is media... You can run reasonable quality digital audio and video on an entry level Pc unlike 10 years ago but when HDTV/HDMI comes into play the majority of those PC's will also be dead in the water...
I guess you could also say the same for business workstations and office needs... but I'm thinking if Microsoft get their way you'll need a £1,000+ computer to run the next office at the same functionality as your £600 3 year old computer runs office 2000 today. At least however, unlike 1995, I can have a substantial spreadsheet open and not have the computer creaking and shaking like its something out of the dark ages... that is of course, unless I was running it in DOS... and things were still fast and furious then.
The point of the argument I'm trying to make here is that YES you can now buy a computer for $600 that does the majority of home tasks you need for today. The computer will run a good percentage of games available within the last 6 months and before at medium level graphics but it wont do you any good in the near future... its a consumable, an appliance if you will.
In the above respect your mac mini is very much a 'console' in itself, and just like the PS2 or xBox will be downgraded to the 'standalone dvd player' variety within a number of years... For what the mini does I think its great, but to suggest its competitive to the PS3, 360 or even possibly the Wii I think is pushing it a little. Admittedly I can add more memory to a mac mini... but the graphics card is a great letdown for any serious gamer.
I dont think things have changed that much apart from to suggest the signal to noise ratio has significantly increased since the price of a bog standard PC has came down in general. But that could be considered elitist, and I realise there are many exceptions... but I think I preferred the internet way back when the majority of usage was academic -- at least I didn't have to put up with leet speak and all the other crap that I believe has increased (porn excluded) due to the commoditization of computers.
Disclaimer:
just to note I think that
A) Sony has over priced its product here and expects everyone to pay the brand (being a Nintendo fanboy I hope people dont *coff*)
B) I realise my examples above were very PC based but nothing was meant as a dig to apple as a company or their products. I have a highly modified Apple cube that I use as a webserver/fileshare/torrents etc that I absolutely adore and will continue to tinker with. I feel that like the Mini, the cube was ahead of its time and the amount of engineering involved is amazing... but then I do have a 256mb 5600 gfx card in the cube.
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;) tell me what you think afterwards.
All they would need to show is the security camera from the hotel roof and we'd be happy ? (for the most part) I agree here that it is a military installation... but we aren't asking for information related to what the pentagon is made of...
We aren't asking about what hit the pentagon to penetrate so many layers.... it was a 757 right? we all know what aircraft are made from? Or was it? That is the question here.... The administration is TELLING us the information... all we are looking for is a photo or footage that properly shows such proof... why cant they provide that? It wouldn't be showing anymore details than we already know
Loose Change 2nd edition:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-51375819
watch it... is the pentagon.. the most important American military installation really that badly defended?
Then please make up your mind.
I don't know if you have already but I think you really should watch it
You should also look out the 3 part docu on 'The power of nightmares' to get background information on whom the Neo conservatives are, what they have done and what they plan to achieve (that they refer to in this film)
not essential but I thought TPON was an excellent docu also.
oh remove the space from that link... inbetween favorite
F avoritePictures/source/23.html
http://www.nickdidlick.com/recentpix/favoritepix/
where are their relatives?
s /lockerbie/story/
F avoritePictures/source/23.html
where are their bodies?
where is their luggage?
I happen to live about 30 miles north west of Lockerbie in Scotland... when the PANAM flight 103 exploded over lockerbie, luggage was thrown miles away from the impact zone, the wreckage sadly landed on the houses obliterating the small town.
http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/feature
I realise a 757 or 767 is a good bit smaller than a 747 but as you can see from this one photo here: http://www.nickdidlick.com/recentpix/favoritepix/
aircraft just don't disappear no matter how hard they hit.
jimho uneducated opinion.... the tailfin of this supposed aircraft at the pentagon should atleast be visible.... what is left of the wings should probably be scattered across the lawn... but there is no sign of that? just one 16ft wide hole in an unoccupied part of the building that remained there until the structual integrety of that wing collapsed.
There has been so much press about the aircraft that hit the towers.... but so little information was ever given out about this one.... it was just brushed under the carpet.
well if they came out and said ...
home security had been breached and the terrorists fired a missile at the pentagon... I'd buy it !
I also think the government has good reason to keep the above possible event secret. imagine the embarassment of having one of your own missiles fired at you...
Still not seen any evidence of an airliner... and certainly no reason why the original penetration was only 16ft wide.
That is what I call BS on... not who did it but what did it.
"I heard a very loud, quick whooshing sound. I was convinced it was a missile. It came in so fast - it sounded nothing like an airplane." Lon Rains - editor for Space News (Pentagon eyewitness)
... if that's all the video footage they have..
there are eyewitness accounts that state radiation was higher than baseline for that area... after the crash that would suggest a warhead of some form also...
video footage taken by eyewitnesses at the scene show a very small hole 16ft!! (in comparison to a 757) in the pentagon wall before the roof collapsed with no evidence of aircraft wreckage and even half open filing cabinets with papers hanging out unburnt on the interior sides of the damaged building.
I don't pretend to be an expert.... and I'm not even very active in shouting how much of a conspiracy this is...
But you tell me where the wings are? the tail? where is FAA reports of the wreckage they should now have to investigate?
All I'm saying is that planes no matter how small DO NOT fully disintegrate on impact...
Is it pure coincidence that area of the pentagon had been shut for refurbishment that week too?
It's all just so wrong on so many levels. The BBC first reported it to be a light aircraft but suddenly its a 757 ?
the security around the pentagon is a joke
Look... I really usually don't go by all the conspiracy crap
but I ask you to watch this with an open mind and compare it to what the gov has just released... http://www.911inplanesite.com/
I torrented it, you might want to do the same O:)
Ignore the stuff about the two towers... thats another kettle of fish.
conspiracy aside it really does raise a hell of a lot of questions that have never been answered
no difference... if its that absurd then surely it should be easy to deny ?
you prove to me that streak of white was a plane.... and I'll admit to being wrong...
seriously ! if that was a 757 I'm sure there would be enough evidence ALL OVER THE PLACE for people to see such....
but its not....
so its still FUD from the government
btw... wee is a scottish word :P
you mean apart from the fact your 1 year old 30" wide screen monitor is probably junk?
oh.. and maybe that because you have a legal right to make a backup of the media... this only hinders things more?
jimho I thought that was pretty cool..
it was discreet, the music was ok for the game (even if your not a NIN fan) and it seemed to work really well....
that I dont mind.... but I wont be buying or playing games that have streaming ads.
just thought I'd add that I have to agree with you...
:-\
I still play DAOC a lot and I cant wait for mythic to bring out Warhammer also... first time I've heard of the rumours but if so it will seriously put that purchase into question
I could state that I dont know many people that have carried hundreds of cds on a subway or at a bus station.... and I dont know many people that actually NEED 100 albums unless they are going halfway around the world... or jail.
Even if it did work... the 'windows update' link on the start menu is hardwired to I.E even if you've set everything to use your default browser : firefox !
links within messenger I mean the interface... not the chat windows
I think links within msn messenger still open IE by default even if your default is FF ... and windows update only uses IE due to supposed active x crap... I'm sure there are more.
oops .. sorry :D add silicon graphics inc to that list of 'what happened after x86' hehe ;)
its a shame... I've always loved sgi...
*sighs deeply*
then who did? I might have bought one if they went the AMD route...
:-$
..... ? Mikey Dell wanting to sell dell/apple branded intels? apple to extinction ? long live the ipod?
:-| Alas, I feel Apple may have hit the last nail in its coffin by histories regards.
but then I'm just as happy over powering my G4 cube with dual cpu's...
heh.
after buying my cube 2nd hand I really thought about my next computer being a dual G5 dual core monster... then they announced their partnership with intel and I laughed my ass off..
history ?
BeOS changed to x86 architecture and died (their change was their 'last hope for peace')
NeXT changed to x86 architecture and died (their change was their 'last hope for peace' but by shear fluke apple wanted jobs back)
Apple changes to x86 compatible architecture and.
Without the inherently impressive PowerPC arch inside an apple I'm back to my AMD worshipping days... Steve you should listen to me because the reason most people bought apples was because they were fed up eating MS compatible pears...
I really don't want x86 arch to take over the world like Microsoft did
yeah I found that quote funny myself :) Rampage rocks ! heh
yes.... but if they only knock your door once every 5 years than thats a £480 saving
*shrugs*
so you dont allow them in... when they go run out and buy one -- when they come back with the police you have a license and I dont think they can do anything about it... although IANAL..
...
do you honestly think they have the resources to do that? I think it works better if the residence has never had a license
but they dont check everyone..
or... pay the tv by cash and give them a fake address... thats their list screwed already :D hehe
I kinda agree with you Screwmaster... but if people want small computers rather than just a phone then why wont you give it up and admit that?
I have a XDAII phone... prolly one of the most powerful 'phones' on the market..
People say to me 'hey your phone is huge' But I look at it from another perspective... A mobile phone does one main thing -- make calls (one they play a few games of Bejeweled 2 their minds change)
My PDA does one main thing -- works as a generic pda... The plus side to this and many other particular pda's is that it makes calls and includes the majority (if not all) of the features expected in a phone.
The truth is.... I dont want to carry a phone, pda, GBA and ipod around with me at all times (I dont see the point 'yet' of cameras in phones)
I have an Ixus 700 for photos... and a NDS for games... but unless I want to do one of those things specifically -- my phone does all I need. (being a huge Zelda fan doesn't help my Nintendo addiction)
I have a 1GB SD card I use to store my games, apps and music.. not quite ipod size but I dont need to carry my cd/mp3 collection around with me at all times... to me, the size of your ipod HD is the size you wish your penis was... unless that is, you do a hell of a lot of travelling or *insert some other very good reason for carrying 40GB of music around with you*
You want to know the main reason why I love my phone? I'm lazy with contacts... plain and simple, whither its (e-)mail addresses, birthdays, phone numbers etc etc I scribble them down then lose the scrap bit of paper... Now? I just fill a contact in on my phone... then sync it to outlook when I get home (I hate MS OS's but love Outlook) and I can keep a lovely formated database of my friends and family.
I'm kinda thinking that a pda/phone is a 'supercar' of the 'phonr' world... yes my ass was raped on royalties, technology and current components... but overtime those things will be comoditized and brought into the consumer market (whither we like it or not) viruses and all... air conditioning will become standard and the world will be a happy place *coff*
I dont feel very smug about what I have.... I work in a stupid fricking bakery 10 hours a day to meet UK minimum wage -- so I EARNED what I've bought... yes I live with my parents, yes I dont have children to pay for but I do love my technology and it shows.
The point I'm trying make here, is that I dont have a huge brick of a phone..
I have a small computer with all the features of the common phone.. I *expect* it to get viruses.. I expect it to crash (no MS comments here please!) and I expect it to do what I bought it for.
I use my phone for most of the features that I daily use my computer for.. I just don't need to carry around a 'heavy' laptop to do them..
OTOH this virii crap is all FUD FUD and more FUD... The reason is that the majority of phones all run different firmware and roms catered for that particular phone.. and if I remember rightly, that bluetooth virus requires someone to accept it to actually work!
I feel that ALL the antivirus corporations are just waiting for everyone to catch the virus buzzword and jump on the bandwagon (they will be there to 'help' of course) but I've never heard of one major virus outbreak that wasnt down to the operators stupidity (corporate or otherwise) to justify installing it on mine.
Just my 2 cents.... I hated mobiles and never had one before I bought my pda... but since I have and use 90% of the features... I dont think I'd want to ever go back.
Ian.
I have to agree with the parent.. although I do find it pretty amazing...
all my symentec corp picks up these days is spyware and/or trojan droppers...
but nothing which defines a 'virus' as something that replicates itself appending or writing over your files...
Maybe I just browse different sites these days *coff*