I don't believe great music is created when you are rolling in dough, I'm not saying artists (of any kind) should be paupers but the majority of fantastic works were done before the artist became huge.. I also think the more artists work the less time they have to spend sniffing coke and gold plating their swimming pools:P People have an URGE to create music or write or draw (my gf btw is an artist of the animating kind)
If the huge money is not there people will still do what they want to do and it gives the smaller less known people a chance to crawl to the top. There are a thousand or so good bands round about you that only want you to listen to them.. The record industry wants you to believe that if they didn't exist music would not exist... but that is simply not true.
Go back to the era before these cartels, all the long dead famous pauper artists of any kind... did we need the industry for them to create works? no... did we have the infrastructure to support culture and pay Shakespeare sufficiently then? no but we have much more expendable income than we ever did before. Encourage sharing, encourage mixing, encourage our culture to be free from these restrictive blights or we will never be able to experience the steam boat willies of our next generation they will be locked up under copyright and patent only to be provided to the few.
"Do you believe that you should buy recorded music or not?"
The small bands, the ones that press their own discs and sell them at the gigs. Without a [big] record label you know where the money is going to go and you want to support your artist. If that's the only way you can find the music (because its too obscure to find online maybe?) and you know where the profit is going then I'd be up for laying cash down for the cd.
so? If I dont know you I wont be bothered that I cant see you..
Still plenty of bands to see this side of the pond.
BTW, if you make good music and its not available through the large chains... I'll buy it, but it still has to be worth it to do so and 'filler' content is NOT.
All the Spice girls and Brittany spears of this world will burn the quickest. No more bullshit bands manufactured, spliced and merged together for a 'formula' that will make [money/music]. The smaller bands will make more money from gigs and merchandise from the fans that actually support them. The local bands will get more notice and the record industry will become a small advertising house.
I love VNV Nation, I've never bought an album... I did however see them in Glasgow last week and bought over £100 in merchandise because I want to ADVERTISE them... if they come back here again I'll do it again
Who is the biggest fool? paying for the music and paying to advertise your favourite band? I dont think so .
Gone is the era of the multi-millionaire superstar (although they will still make money) and why the hell not? they are just doing a job like anyone else - and as a bonus they actually like doing their job!
Now I need the same to happen to sports stars and I'll be happy. NOBODY is worth millions of dollars/pounds and I'm sure the fans would love to knock 60% off the already inflated ticket prices.
People will pay for what they believe in, the main difference here is that most of the music out there now is shite. You talk about all the small bands losing the most... why? they already make sweet F all as it is. Music will become what it should be for most - a part time hobby. Lets also be honest here, it does not matter how little you people artists... music will ALWAYS be made (and people will always play football).
"The law in America says that file sharing hosts and their clients/files must be destroyed. But [what] the Dutch ISP Nforce has been keeping under wraps for years [is] that no one has the foggiest clue how to delete them"
I'll take the spike on usage when its in use quite happily:) and 13w on idle is fine thanks for something that will be idle for a lot of the time.
I have a blu-ray writer in this rig (currently typing this, same box in windows 7:P ) and I've never used it to read a blu-ray disk nevermind write one since I bought it (and replaced it under warranty) within the 6 months or so I've had it. Wouldnt mind one in the mini.. maybe that's what I should wait for?
I have to admit... I cant say any part of that system actually grabs me:-| Come on! you should know just as well as me how much megahertz doesn't matter:P:)
I do however agree on the upgrades... upgrading my cube was always part of the fun. Fun that apple has taken away by soldering everything to the board:-|
I dont need a new monitor since most of my use would be via vnc. Internal wifi N, internal bluetooth and the OS is thrown in for 'free' (yes you forgot the windows tax) I'm guessing you pirate yours. Although on that halo'd note, I'm likely to install os x server on it anyway \o/ (and yes I'll get that through alternative means too)
Slightly faster processor ?!?!?!... I suggest you read up on your architecture, both cpu and gpu. I think if I was going to go down your route for a non apple machine I'd just screw the wattage and space constraints and go for a shuttle pc or something like that... although if I did that I wouldnt be able to harness the gpu for other uses so easily as I would with a mac mini. I bought my cube on ebay as a curious apple poker ( I used to despise apple btw) for less than qtr the price it retailed for 4 years before.
450mhz 1mb cache PPC cpu able to out perform a 800mhz PIII w/ 128/256kb of cpu cache. As much as I love how well my cube has handled over the years... I get the impression the cost/ architecture of the mini wont match up in comparison for another 10 years. But the cube was sold as a premium space saving server. If they brought the cube back with todays expandability performance etc.. I doubt I'd drop the $2.5-3k they would want for it.
On the cache note I see it appears to be a sore topic for the Atom line.. http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?familyID=29035 If I want a minimum of 1mb I'm restricted to 1.5ghz with just less than half the bus speed of the core 2 duo. I'd be curious to see what that actually means in direct comparison though, I wouldn't like to be comparing apples to oranges.
3mb cache, faster memory and 1066mhz bus speed on the mini no mention it would appear of sata speeds on that asrock review either...
*shrugs* the mini so far still seems to fit with what I'm looking for as a comprimise of power over space / resource economy. Thanks for showing me the asrock system tho:) Last I heard of the Asus budget line they only did motherboards.
Sooooo - with that thought in mind, I'll wait until the next refresh where it would appear I'd get the return of 4mb cache, 1066mhz+ bus speed, blu-ray? and whatever else apple decides to throw in. I wouldnt be surprised if apple merged the appleTV with the mini and beefed the full thing up a bit as a media centric server.... we'll see I guess. I'm disappointed in the rpm speed of the hdisk in the mac mini but both the slot loading drive and hdisk can be replaced for something faster further down the line.
I think you picked on the wrong 'fanboy' here. I have as many reasons to hate Apple as I do Microsoft or I
which is why I type this on an ubuntu 8 core box because I'm not willing to pay the apple tax for their stupidly expensive desktops...:) nice try sunshine... oh and btw, snow leopard appears to be the first 10.x release that could truly be considered just a service pack.. something I've argued with windows fanboys with the release of tiger, leopard etc... its almost like Apple told their programmers to keep every little fix back for Snow leopard because they needed some kind of excuse to knock the wind from the windows 7 sales....
I think my little cube has served me well for its 10 years of existence... at only 40ws of power it has been a good little server. If I'm being such a fanboy then find me the equivalent hardware elsewhere as the mac mini using only 15w of juice and a foot print of the same size.
actually... find me a 10 year old Wintel machine able to run Vista to a usable standard -- I'll keep waiting
ok.... so update the EFI firmware and give me a 64bit EFI?
I totally understand what you are saying here, but it would appear by the artificial limitation placed on computers pre 2008 I will NEVER be able to run the kernel in 64bit unless apple updates the firmware. The sad part of all this is that those running hackintoshes with the chameleon EFI hacks can get it just fine and here I am with with a legit mac getting screwed by Jobs to force people to buy new hardware... It smells like the artificial cut off in CPUs less than800mhz for leopard even though leopard runs better on my cube than tiger ever did. Or the 128GB barrier on old macs that can be updated with a simple hack.
So well done A/C you addressed the fact Apple pretended snow leopard was 64bit out the box and soooo compatible when obviously it couldnt be... but you still haven't addressed why there is no EFI update to my scabby 32bit firmware!
Last login: Sun Aug 30 22:46:50 on console Earth:~ ian$ ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi
| | "firmware-abi" = Earth:~ ian$
Maybe I'm wrong here? anyone care to clarify what I'm missing?
ok.... so update the EFI firmware and give me a 64bit EFI?
I totally understand what you are saying here, but it would appear by the artificial limitation placed on computers pre 2008 I will NEVER be able to run the kernel in 64bit unless apple updates the firmware. The sad part of all this is that those running hackintoshes with the chameleon EFI hacks can get it just fine and here I am with with a legit mac getting screwed by Jobs to force people to buy new hardware... It smells like the artificial cut off in CPUs Earth:~ ian$
Maybe I'm wrong here? anyone care to clarify what I'm missing?
batteries by sony... hdisks by hitachie and western digital... motherboards by asus and foxcomm...
where do you draw the line? The only thing apple can take responsibility for recently is the PA semiconductor acquisition they made recently and those PPC chips havent been used in apples devices yet.
Sorry I'm still just pissed off like fuck my 64bit VT enabled laptop with 64bit chipset has a fucking 32bit EFI firmware that apple seems to have no intention of updating!
FUCK YOU APPLE!/rant
I think I'm going to buy a mac mini to replace my G4 cube... not sure the best time to buy tho:-|
"WinMo wouldn't have anywhere near the marketshare it has."
I've had two WinMo phones... regarding marketshare...
At the time I bought my phones O2 XDA & XDA II (MDA in other regions) there were no other choices... The nokia communicator.. eh? and other shite like that.
Since then WinMo has been hobbled and tagged on to generic hardware... if it didnt miss gps it had no wifi... if it had both it was not 3G.. At one point I was waiting for one to come out with all 3 and before it could the iphone 3G came out. I bought one on a two year contract and thought it was ok, lack of copy&paste and mms etc were a bit frustrating but I never used MMS on my other WinMo phones so it was not like I missed it.. The GPS and 3G were sluggish (I never realised the Iphone 3G couldnt do 7.2 mbps 3G speeds!!!) But everything else seemed to work better than my WinMo devices EVER did. Shock horror, I could get updates to the OS - one thing I could NEVER get officially on WinMo.
WinMo COULD have been something special... instead it would appear because it was the only decent software at the time, MS sat on it till it was too late. Now they seem to be trying to make up for it with 'Windows phone' and we'll see how well it does. Microsoft need to make a consistent BRAND like iphone OS... with 1 or 2-3 versions of the software. WinMo fragmented too much to the point where I couldn't tell what OS/features I was going to get and I could never get the correct OS on the correct hardware.
I gave my 3G to my girlfriend halfway through my 2 year contract with O2. I bought a 32GB Iphone 3GS straight out on payg for £540 and slipped my contract sim inside and I've never been happier. Of course, both of them are unlocked and jailbroken, my GF uses hers on the Three UK network with her own contract sim quite happily.
I hate Apples draconian view of the app store - although with that thought in mind I expect spyware/trojans to eventually creep into cydia. I also hate AT&Ts/O2s restrictions on tethering and what can or cant be done over the cell network... Fuck it, I've broken all those rules anyway *shrugs* I cant live without my 5 icon dock or intelliscreen.
Google can NOT follow WinMo to compete with Iphone.. do NOT fragment the OS over multiple fragments... they need to build a brand and quality that customers can expect and trust... otherwise it will just become another WinMo that will not flourish in the market place because better competition now exists.
The irony of all this is that I work for Vodafone UK... I would never touch a blackberry out of preference (hey each to their own) and I doubt I'd break my O2 contract for a Vodafone one hehe.
I've also bought too many apps for my iphone... I'd need something very special to move me away from a platform that I have to say with some gripes that I'm very happy with.
no... it proves that computers are not for everyone (as much as Microsoft would like you to believe otherwise) and the blame gets given to those that dont pay attention and not to internet users as a whole.
If I was an ISP, I'd cut customers off for sending spam zombied or otherwise just as quick as for piracy. And Why do they not? no financial incentive, lets give them one.
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I don't believe great music is created when you are rolling in dough, I'm not saying artists (of any kind) should be paupers but the majority of fantastic works were done before the artist became huge .. I also think the more artists work the less time they have to spend sniffing coke and gold plating their swimming pools :P People have an URGE to create music or write or draw (my gf btw is an artist of the animating kind)
If the huge money is not there people will still do what they want to do and it gives the smaller less known people a chance to crawl to the top. There are a thousand or so good bands round about you that only want you to listen to them.. The record industry wants you to believe that if they didn't exist music would not exist... but that is simply not true.
Go back to the era before these cartels, all the long dead famous pauper artists of any kind... did we need the industry for them to create works? no... did we have the infrastructure to support culture and pay Shakespeare sufficiently then? no but we have much more expendable income than we ever did before. Encourage sharing, encourage mixing, encourage our culture to be free from these restrictive blights or we will never be able to experience the steam boat willies of our next generation they will be locked up under copyright and patent only to be provided to the few.
"Do you believe that you should buy recorded music or not?"
The small bands, the ones that press their own discs and sell them at the gigs. Without a [big] record label you know where the money is going to go and you want to support your artist. If that's the only way you can find the music (because its too obscure to find online maybe?) and you know where the profit is going then I'd be up for laying cash down for the cd.
I'd probably be quite happy to tell him that... the record company not so much.
I wonder how much per cd he actually gets? 5% max?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/search/ref=pd_lpo_ix_dp_am_us_uk_en_vnv.020faith.020power.020and.020glory_gl_music?keywords=vnv%20faith%20power%20and%20glory&tag=lpo_ixdpamusukenvnv.020faith.020power.020and.020glorygl_music-21&index=blended
I can buy the newest album digital download for £6.99
Lets say I paid that for all 7 albums = £48.93
Or I could just land £100 + ticket price for the t-shirts, gig etc
I know which I'd rather have, and I bet the venue money goes through fewer hands.
no - it just needs to have tits and santily clad young girls in it...
that crap is a universal excuse to push soft core porn without crossing the lines of the law..
It is NOT the music that sells.
you forgot the last part let me finish that equation for you
- inflated prices, which leads to piracy and that = time for a revolution :D
Glad to hear you like them :)
Victory Not Vengeance.
Furthest Star
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bedj1qC_jwg
Beloved
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7RlKe5LLPo
Standing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0czbHs6a7y4
better versions of beloved (grey down rmx) and standing (still, motion and original) exist but you should check these tracks out :)
so? If I dont know you I wont be bothered that I cant see you..
Still plenty of bands to see this side of the pond.
BTW, if you make good music and its not available through the large chains... I'll buy it, but it still has to be worth it to do so and 'filler' content is NOT.
you know what I LOVE about piracy?
What I REALLY REALLY LOVE?
All the Spice girls and Brittany spears of this world will burn the quickest. No more bullshit bands manufactured, spliced and merged together for a 'formula' that will make [money/music]. The smaller bands will make more money from gigs and merchandise from the fans that actually support them. The local bands will get more notice and the record industry will become a small advertising house.
I love VNV Nation, I've never bought an album... I did however see them in Glasgow last week and bought over £100 in merchandise because I want to ADVERTISE them... if they come back here again I'll do it again
Who is the biggest fool? paying for the music and paying to advertise your favourite band? I dont think so .
Gone is the era of the multi-millionaire superstar (although they will still make money) and why the hell not? they are just doing a job like anyone else - and as a bonus they actually like doing their job!
Now I need the same to happen to sports stars and I'll be happy. NOBODY is worth millions of dollars/pounds and I'm sure the fans would love to knock 60% off the already inflated ticket prices.
People will pay for what they believe in, the main difference here is that most of the music out there now is shite. You talk about all the small bands losing the most... why? they already make sweet F all as it is. Music will become what it should be for most - a part time hobby. Lets also be honest here, it does not matter how little you people artists... music will ALWAYS be made (and people will always play football).
Let them burn, we are over it already.
"I'm still mad about them taking blood out of Mortal Kombat..."
Just thought I'd add this
Me too!
And in related news...
"The law in America says that file sharing hosts and their clients/files must be destroyed. But [what] the Dutch ISP Nforce has been keeping under wraps for years [is] that no one has the foggiest clue how to delete them"
So many levels....
I agree with you on that one!
regarding NSMBW however....
one thing for sure - by most reports - it's bloody hard!
Interesting idea... but as much as I might not mind a netbook cpu in a netbook... having one in a dedicated server - not so much.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18034050
I'll take the spike on usage when its in use quite happily :) and 13w on idle is fine thanks for something that will be idle for a lot of the time.
I have a blu-ray writer in this rig (currently typing this, same box in windows 7 :P ) and I've never used it to read a blu-ray disk nevermind write one since I bought it (and replaced it under warranty) within the 6 months or so I've had it. Wouldnt mind one in the mini.. maybe that's what I should wait for?
I have to admit... I cant say any part of that system actually grabs me :-| Come on! you should know just as well as me how much megahertz doesn't matter :P :)
I do however agree on the upgrades... upgrading my cube was always part of the fun. Fun that apple has taken away by soldering everything to the board :-|
I dont need a new monitor since most of my use would be via vnc. Internal wifi N, internal bluetooth and the OS is thrown in for 'free' (yes you forgot the windows tax) I'm guessing you pirate yours. Although on that halo'd note, I'm likely to install os x server on it anyway \o/ (and yes I'll get that through alternative means too)
Slightly faster processor ?!?!?! ... I suggest you read up on your architecture, both cpu and gpu. I think if I was going to go down your route for a non apple machine I'd just screw the wattage and space constraints and go for a shuttle pc or something like that... although if I did that I wouldnt be able to harness the gpu for other uses so easily as I would with a mac mini. I bought my cube on ebay as a curious apple poker ( I used to despise apple btw) for less than qtr the price it retailed for 4 years before.
450mhz 1mb cache PPC cpu able to out perform a 800mhz PIII w/ 128/256kb of cpu cache. As much as I love how well my cube has handled over the years... I get the impression the cost/ architecture of the mini wont match up in comparison for another 10 years. But the cube was sold as a premium space saving server. If they brought the cube back with todays expandability performance etc.. I doubt I'd drop the $2.5-3k they would want for it.
http://sys.eu.shuttle.com/home.jsf
On the cache note I see it appears to be a sore topic for the Atom line..
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?familyID=29035 If I want a minimum of 1mb I'm restricted to 1.5ghz with just less than half the bus speed of the core 2 duo. I'd be curious to see what that actually means in direct comparison though, I wouldn't like to be comparing apples to oranges.
3mb cache, faster memory and 1066mhz bus speed on the mini no mention it would appear of sata speeds on that asrock review either...
*shrugs* the mini so far still seems to fit with what I'm looking for as a comprimise of power over space / resource economy. Thanks for showing me the asrock system tho :) Last I heard of the Asus budget line they only did motherboards.
Sooooo - with that thought in mind, I'll wait until the next refresh where it would appear I'd get the return of 4mb cache, 1066mhz+ bus speed, blu-ray? and whatever else apple decides to throw in. I wouldnt be surprised if apple merged the appleTV with the mini and beefed the full thing up a bit as a media centric server.... we'll see I guess. I'm disappointed in the rpm speed of the hdisk in the mac mini but both the slot loading drive and hdisk can be replaced for something faster further down the line.
I think you picked on the wrong 'fanboy' here. I have as many reasons to hate Apple as I do Microsoft or I
and with the spout of "Oh but snow leopard clears our all the cruft and frees up x amount of disk space..."
Bullshit, nothing monolingual cant do atleast until the 64bit apps become more mainstream (thinking about the comparison of file sizes to safari.app)
remove other languages....... done.. ..... done.. ..... done..
remove intel specific code
remove printer drivers you dont need
etc etc.
which is why I type this on an ubuntu 8 core box because I'm not willing to pay the apple tax for their stupidly expensive desktops... :) nice try sunshine... oh and btw, snow leopard appears to be the first 10.x release that could truly be considered just a service pack.. something I've argued with windows fanboys with the release of tiger, leopard etc... its almost like Apple told their programmers to keep every little fix back for Snow leopard because they needed some kind of excuse to knock the wind from the windows 7 sales....
I think my little cube has served me well for its 10 years of existence... at only 40ws of power it has been a good little server. If I'm being such a fanboy then find me the equivalent hardware elsewhere as the mac mini using only 15w of juice and a foot print of the same size.
actually ... find me a 10 year old Wintel machine able to run Vista to a usable standard -- I'll keep waiting
oops ... here we go
ok.... so update the EFI firmware and give me a 64bit EFI?
I totally understand what you are saying here, but it would appear by the artificial limitation placed on computers pre 2008 I will NEVER be able to run the kernel in 64bit unless apple updates the firmware. The sad part of all this is that those running hackintoshes with the chameleon EFI hacks can get it just fine and here I am with with a legit mac getting screwed by Jobs to force people to buy new hardware... It smells like the artificial cut off in CPUs less than800mhz for leopard even though leopard runs better on my cube than tiger ever did. Or the 128GB barrier on old macs that can be updated with a simple hack.
So well done A/C you addressed the fact Apple pretended snow leopard was 64bit out the box and soooo compatible when obviously it couldnt be... but you still haven't addressed why there is no EFI update to my scabby 32bit firmware!
Last login: Sun Aug 30 22:46:50 on console
Earth:~ ian$ ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi
| | "firmware-abi" = Earth:~ ian$
Maybe I'm wrong here? anyone care to clarify what I'm missing?
ok.... so update the EFI firmware and give me a 64bit EFI?
I totally understand what you are saying here, but it would appear by the artificial limitation placed on computers pre 2008 I will NEVER be able to run the kernel in 64bit unless apple updates the firmware. The sad part of all this is that those running hackintoshes with the chameleon EFI hacks can get it just fine and here I am with with a legit mac getting screwed by Jobs to force people to buy new hardware... It smells like the artificial cut off in CPUs Earth:~ ian$
Maybe I'm wrong here? anyone care to clarify what I'm missing?
which part of the device did Apple actually make?
batteries by sony... ...
hdisks by hitachie and western digital...
motherboards by asus and foxcomm
where do you draw the line? The only thing apple can take responsibility for recently is the PA semiconductor acquisition they made recently and those PPC chips havent been used in apples devices yet.
Sorry I'm still just pissed off like fuck my 64bit VT enabled laptop with 64bit chipset has a fucking 32bit EFI firmware that apple seems to have no intention of updating!
FUCK YOU APPLE! /rant
I think I'm going to buy a mac mini to replace my G4 cube ... not sure the best time to buy tho :-|
maybe if they'd stop marketing so much and actually spend money making a good game people would take them seriously...
unlikely though :(
"WinMo wouldn't have anywhere near the marketshare it has."
I've had two WinMo phones... regarding marketshare...
At the time I bought my phones O2 XDA & XDA II (MDA in other regions) there were no other choices... The nokia communicator.. eh? and other shite like that.
Since then WinMo has been hobbled and tagged on to generic hardware... if it didnt miss gps it had no wifi... if it had both it was not 3G.. At one point I was waiting for one to come out with all 3 and before it could the iphone 3G came out. I bought one on a two year contract and thought it was ok, lack of copy&paste and mms etc were a bit frustrating but I never used MMS on my other WinMo phones so it was not like I missed it.. The GPS and 3G were sluggish (I never realised the Iphone 3G couldnt do 7.2 mbps 3G speeds!!!) But everything else seemed to work better than my WinMo devices EVER did. Shock horror, I could get updates to the OS - one thing I could NEVER get officially on WinMo.
WinMo COULD have been something special... instead it would appear because it was the only decent software at the time, MS sat on it till it was too late. Now they seem to be trying to make up for it with 'Windows phone' and we'll see how well it does. Microsoft need to make a consistent BRAND like iphone OS ... with 1 or 2-3 versions of the software. WinMo fragmented too much to the point where I couldn't tell what OS/features I was going to get and I could never get the correct OS on the correct hardware.
I gave my 3G to my girlfriend halfway through my 2 year contract with O2. I bought a 32GB Iphone 3GS straight out on payg for £540 and slipped my contract sim inside and I've never been happier. Of course, both of them are unlocked and jailbroken, my GF uses hers on the Three UK network with her own contract sim quite happily.
I hate Apples draconian view of the app store - although with that thought in mind I expect spyware/trojans to eventually creep into cydia. I also hate AT&Ts/O2s restrictions on tethering and what can or cant be done over the cell network... Fuck it, I've broken all those rules anyway *shrugs* I cant live without my 5 icon dock or intelliscreen.
Google can NOT follow WinMo to compete with Iphone.. do NOT fragment the OS over multiple fragments ... they need to build a brand and quality that customers can expect and trust... otherwise it will just become another WinMo that will not flourish in the market place because better competition now exists.
The irony of all this is that I work for Vodafone UK... I would never touch a blackberry out of preference (hey each to their own) and I doubt I'd break my O2 contract for a Vodafone one hehe.
I've also bought too many apps for my iphone... I'd need something very special to move me away from a platform that I have to say with some gripes that I'm very happy with.
"If there was less evil, "
And you call my argument fallacious?
Less evil, there is no such thing as evil... just people with different contradicting perspectives.
no... it proves that computers are not for everyone (as much as Microsoft would like you to believe otherwise) and the blame gets given to those that dont pay attention and not to internet users as a whole.
If I was an ISP, I'd cut customers off for sending spam zombied or otherwise just as quick as for piracy. And Why do they not? no financial incentive, lets give them one.
which means they care about the integrity and security of your data.
OMG.
Another /. reader without a sense of humour.
Do you normally keep your head this close to the ground?
I'd like to think the IT team that looked after my data cared about it A LOT.