Actually, didn't the activedesktop stuff enable the QuickLaunch bar in win95? I could swear I remember my old Win95 machine with IE4 and activedesktop having the bar.
USB could be added, but it was crappy support, and I dont remember any major products actually working with Win95+usb.
When I tried using my USB quickcam that had 98 support in it on 95+usb, 95 shit itself and detected the cam 40 or so times over and over (and even showed up in the device manager that many times).
Heh, and people were saying poor poor Foonet, did nothing wrong, blah blah blah. I guess we now have our answer on why they needed to be broken.
So lets see, carding, open proxies, trojans, DDoS drones, spam, script kiddies, porn (not that its a bad thing, just lets pile it all on while we can), what did I miss?
Lets not forget the MSNBC article which recommended you try AbiWord, even if you own one of the other word processors (Word anyone?).
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3078378/
I find it very strange that Microsoft would allow MSNBC's reporters/editors/etc to even hint that another vendor's products may be just as good/better then Microsoft products.
I haven't had any issues with FC2 at all. I'm a die hard RedHat person, having used 4.x back in the day, through 7.3, then finally going to FC1 (I wont touch 8 or 9).
Most of the Redhat bashing comes from Debian users/developers (I am going to get modded troll for this, I know) from my experience. I do not see any other group of Linux users so hellbent on bashing Redhat users.
Just an observation, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has seen this...
Just because you have more hard drive space then you know what to do with, doesn't mean you should be forced to hand it over to a program you didn't ask for.
Not to mention the fact just having the programs on your hard drive may lead to a security issue if there are exploitable holes (and usually, even the simplest things on Windows are exploitable - notepad anyone?)
The lock-in is where you can not remove IE, or Outlook Express (easily, or at all) in favor of another product.
Simply put, you are forced to waste your HD space even if you do not want to use IE. If you do not use Mozilla, you can uninstall it. You do not have that option with IE.
Lets not get started of the undocumented system calls, etc that their Office apps can take advantage of to give them the edge that everyone else can't get.
Or how once you begin using Microsoft apps (Office, etc), you can not easily switch to another product, because the data formats are incompatible (because microsoft refuses to release specs on how their programs do it).
Anything which tries to prevent you from using another product in favor of the included product is called lock-in.
Well, when you keep handing out your only IP blocks to spammers, and then giving them more and more blocks whenever they get blacklisted... Yeah, I could see you needing more IP addresses quickly.
Perhaps if they tossed the spammers off their network, they might free up some/16s and such and be able to give some of it back to the rest of the world, which might actually have a legit use for those IP ranges.
They are probably impemented the same way its done in the linux 2.6 kernels - either taking advantage of the underlying file system's ability to store the data natively, or using a hidden file. IIRC, this is all done on the VFS layer, which I'm pretty sure MacOS X has the equiv. of.
Most of the standard tools like chown/chmod/ls/etc are ACL enabled and aware. The only applications which will have an issue with this are ones that are not ACL aware, AND ones that use a copy/save method which will blow away the underlying ACLs (passwd does this right now, as do many editors).
Otherwise, it is completely transparent to applications (even ones that aren't ACL enabled/aware).
The quick fix to changing the server to scs.yahoo.com, port 5050 does not work for most people, and does not work with Miranda IM, GAIM, or other third party IM clients besides Trillian.
It appears to be a separate server, and you won't be able to communicate with other people on the 'fixed' yahoo servers.
Ahh, I knew this type of stuff sounded very familiar.
I was going to be doing something on the Daily Show apparently being pitted against the one and only Snotty Scotty Richter, the spammer now being hunted by the NY AG's office.
Within 6 hours of saying yes, I'd go on the show that monday, I spoke with my other admins and several of my advisors who warned me against it, and promptly e-mailed the producer back and said I'm sorry, but something has come up.
I avoided a rather bad sitation, from what I can see. Needless to say, I've been very careful since then on who I allow to interview me for spam fighting stuff and similar.
The idea is to find the security holes before the bad guys do, so you can fix the problem before its in the wild and exploiting people, without your knowledge.
Every program has bugs. There is no way around it. What makes the difference though is how you respond to bugs when they are found.
You have a choice - either be like Microsoft, try to deny that the bugs exist, or downplay the bugs, and try to stifle the person who found it - or be like a real programer, fix the bug, and get people to fix the problem, and go on with life.
The issue with TDE is still going on, and they haven't made legal threats towards us. If they had made legal threats, it would have been published on our site in 24 hours.
Our privacy policy doesn't allow us to publish these e-mails yet, as they are private communication between TDE and us.
However, once the issue is resolved, there will be a discussion with the admin team as to what will get published exactly.
Perhaps you should have started by blocking addresses from Telefónica's IP space that repeatedly come up as these will probably be the Internet cafés?
Would love to. But I can't because TDE has yet to provide me with that info.
Did you first explain what your organisation does in your e-mails? Explain exactly what the problem was and what should be done to fix it? Or did you just say 'give me your dynamic IP blocks?' Did you find the correct contact e-mail address? Get it translated into Spanish if there was no reply? If there was still no reply, find the correct phone number and ring them up on that if all else failed? Perhaps there were no games, perhaps you took what amounts to an entire country's e-mail off the Internet because you were unable to get through to the right department?
I had several e-mails back and forth with TDE, all in english. It is not my job to play translator. I have bigger things to worry about then playing these kinds of stupid games.
I can not, and will not waste my money calling these people. To expect me to make a international call to discuss THEIR problem, is laughable.
It's entirely your problem. Your organisation must take all possible steps before pulling the plug on a country as what you do affects people and trade. If you do not, your organisation will lose credibility, ISPs will find others which at least operate with a modicum of professionalism and accountability, and that will be the end of your venture.
Its not a 'venture' you dolt. We make $0 off of the AHBL. Your opinion means nothing, your comments mean nothing.
Why? Because you are not one of my users.
I take questions and concerns from my users very seriously, and I actively poll people on our announcements list for their feelings on things. If they are happy, I am happy.
If you are unhappy, go jump off a bridge and leave me alone.
If Telefónica is so guilty, why has Steve Linford of Spamhaus stated that he doesn't believe there's that much of a problem with Telefónica since they cracked down at the end of 2003 in the New Scientist? If Telefónica is so guilty, why has your organisation just taken a battering in Comms World
Linford means nothing to me. He is not part of the AHBL, nor is he a user of the AHBL. I may have respect for what the man has done, but thats as far as it goes.
Just because you, or other blacklist maintainers don't have the balls to take a stand and try and force a change, doesn't mean you have a right to judge my actions.
Remember, my list, my rules. You want to play in my sandbox? You play by my rules.
As long as my users are happy, I am happy.
Furthermore, we only take a beating in public because we disclose all of our actions that involve leagal threats on our website. It is our policy for full disclosure on stuff like that. Forgive me if we don't want to operate in a haze that keeps other people out of the loop.
Every news site out there has its own spin on things, especially ones that have been blocked at one point, or have run into a DNSbl before.
ISPs like Telefónica (a giant in the European and Latin American markets of AT&T proportions) which stand to lose time and money sorting this out could easily turn round and sue you for every penny as, unlike the scammers, you've left your contact address. That would be ironic to say the least as well as unfortunate.
They are welcome to try and sue me, but don't forget, the CAN-SPAM act has provisions which give me the right to decide what mail goes in and out my systems. They would have to sue all of my users to get anywhere, and they would fail at that due to protections in place thanks to the CAN-SPAM act.
In short, FOAD.
I'll also make the point you can't get blood from a stone.
Stop whining like a spanked spammer. You and Corsi should get together and compare notes.
If you cannot get basic information like this right then you have shown that you do not understand what you are dealing with. You have to understand what you are dealing with before you pull the plug on it to understand the social impact it will have.
Like I said, in a case like this, I dont give a flying f*** that they are public or privately owned. It does not absolve them from their responsibilities to deal with abuse and illegal activities.
Websites lie, people lie, companies lie.
Let me put it in a context that you may be able to understand. It is like Bell's position in the US before it was broken up. It's a huge country-wide corporation with a practical monopoly on telephone and Internet services.
Do not take me for an idiot. I understand perfectly what it is like.
Allow me to quote another line from the press release:
That was never intended to be a press release. If I had any idea that the AHBL would be put on the spot like that, you can sure bet your ass I would have written up something more formal.
If you block it for six months then you are utterly irresponsible.
And letting illegal activities come from your network, specifically ones that have gotten people murdered is irresponsible. TDE could have easily cut off the problem at the knees before it got this far by doing something as simple as blocking outbound port 25 connections from their dialup or Internet Cafe customers.
But they chose not to. That is not my problem.
They could have given us their dynamic blocks like I had asked.
But they chose not to.
Point being that I have seriously lost patience dealing with them, since I have better things to do then play their little games.
Well we're dealing with some real worldly types here, aren't we? It's not exactly difficult to find out, you switch their home page to English if you can't read Spanish and you get all the investor information you need. See the options there at the top-right?
Not that I need to justify/explain myself to you, but I'll point out that just because a company has private investors doesn't mean that it isn't govt. owned/controlled.
Frankly, I could care less if they are govt or privately owned. Doesn't absolve them from their responsibilities to control the abuse that comes from their network.
All I am trying to do is make sure I have accurate information, because what I have been told is that they are govt owned/operated.
Blocking port 25 prevents direct to mx spam. It forces the spammers to use mail hubs/smart hosts which can be better tracked by the ISP that is hosting the customer in question.
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Actually, didn't the activedesktop stuff enable the QuickLaunch bar in win95? I could swear I remember my old Win95 machine with IE4 and activedesktop having the bar.
USB could be added, but it was crappy support, and I dont remember any major products actually working with Win95+usb.
When I tried using my USB quickcam that had 98 support in it on 95+usb, 95 shit itself and detected the cam 40 or so times over and over (and even showed up in the device manager that many times).
Heh, and people were saying poor poor Foonet, did nothing wrong, blah blah blah. I guess we now have our answer on why they needed to be broken.
So lets see, carding, open proxies, trojans, DDoS drones, spam, script kiddies, porn (not that its a bad thing, just lets pile it all on while we can), what did I miss?
Lets not forget the MSNBC article which recommended you try AbiWord, even if you own one of the other word processors (Word anyone?).
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3078378/
I find it very strange that Microsoft would allow MSNBC's reporters/editors/etc to even hint that another vendor's products may be just as good/better then Microsoft products.
I haven't had any issues with FC2 at all. I'm a die hard RedHat person, having used 4.x back in the day, through 7.3, then finally going to FC1 (I wont touch 8 or 9).
Most of the Redhat bashing comes from Debian users/developers (I am going to get modded troll for this, I know) from my experience. I do not see any other group of Linux users so hellbent on bashing Redhat users.
Just an observation, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has seen this...
Just because you have more hard drive space then you know what to do with, doesn't mean you should be forced to hand it over to a program you didn't ask for.
Not to mention the fact just having the programs on your hard drive may lead to a security issue if there are exploitable holes (and usually, even the simplest things on Windows are exploitable - notepad anyone?)
The lock-in is where you can not remove IE, or Outlook Express (easily, or at all) in favor of another product.
Simply put, you are forced to waste your HD space even if you do not want to use IE. If you do not use Mozilla, you can uninstall it. You do not have that option with IE.
Lets not get started of the undocumented system calls, etc that their Office apps can take advantage of to give them the edge that everyone else can't get.
Or how once you begin using Microsoft apps (Office, etc), you can not easily switch to another product, because the data formats are incompatible (because microsoft refuses to release specs on how their programs do it).
Anything which tries to prevent you from using another product in favor of the included product is called lock-in.
Well, when you keep handing out your only IP blocks to spammers, and then giving them more and more blocks whenever they get blacklisted... Yeah, I could see you needing more IP addresses quickly.
/16s and such and be able to give some of it back to the rest of the world, which might actually have a legit use for those IP ranges.
Perhaps if they tossed the spammers off their network, they might free up some
They are probably impemented the same way its done in the linux 2.6 kernels - either taking advantage of the underlying file system's ability to store the data natively, or using a hidden file. IIRC, this is all done on the VFS layer, which I'm pretty sure MacOS X has the equiv. of.
Most of the standard tools like chown/chmod/ls/etc are ACL enabled and aware. The only applications which will have an issue with this are ones that are not ACL aware, AND ones that use a copy/save method which will blow away the underlying ACLs (passwd does this right now, as do many editors).
Otherwise, it is completely transparent to applications (even ones that aren't ACL enabled/aware).
Perhaps Slashdot editors might want to take an extra 20 seconds to check the spelling of the URLs they put in their stories.
spamassassin.org, not spamassasin.org
What version of Miranda IM and the Yahoo plugin are you using exactly?
The quick fix to changing the server to scs.yahoo.com, port 5050 does not work for most people, and does not work with Miranda IM, GAIM, or other third party IM clients besides Trillian.
It appears to be a separate server, and you won't be able to communicate with other people on the 'fixed' yahoo servers.
Ahh, I knew this type of stuff sounded very familiar.
I was going to be doing something on the Daily Show apparently being pitted against the one and only Snotty Scotty Richter, the spammer now being hunted by the NY AG's office.
Within 6 hours of saying yes, I'd go on the show that monday, I spoke with my other admins and several of my advisors who warned me against it, and promptly e-mailed the producer back and said I'm sorry, but something has come up.
I avoided a rather bad sitation, from what I can see. Needless to say, I've been very careful since then on who I allow to interview me for spam fighting stuff and similar.
Ugh, this is what happens with lack of sleep.
Enjoy!
http://www.sosdg.org/spoof/mskb666-691.html
I just uploaded a new build today of the SOSDG ClamAV For Windows version with some new features and bug fixes.
We are however, working on interface which should allow real time scanning like what Norton Antivirus offers.
http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32/index.php
Microsoft usually only does something AFTER the fact, rarely before, which means that an AntiVirus product fits within their style perfectly.
Why write good code in the first place, when you can just 'fix' the problem after people start getting owned with your AntiVirus software?
Of course, we'll start seeing MSKB articles on how their antivirus software 'accidentally' picks up Mozilla or OpenOffice as a virus and deletes it.
Geeze, how can anyone bitch and moan about something they got for completely free?
If you paid for the service, I could see being upset, but be realistic. You get what you pay for.
And as such, because you paid nothing for the blogging service, the person hosting it owes you nothing.
Whats the proper phrase for what I am thinking right now...
Oh yeah!
"Liar liar, pants on fire!"
Standard spammer rules apply in this case, especially 1 and 2.
The Rules Of Spam
a += 1;
Thats not a program, thats a line of code. When you put it together with other lines of code, it becomes a program.
The idea is to find the security holes before the bad guys do, so you can fix the problem before its in the wild and exploiting people, without your knowledge.
Every program has bugs. There is no way around it. What makes the difference though is how you respond to bugs when they are found.
You have a choice - either be like Microsoft, try to deny that the bugs exist, or downplay the bugs, and try to stifle the person who found it - or be like a real programer, fix the bug, and get people to fix the problem, and go on with life.
The issue with TDE is still going on, and they haven't made legal threats towards us. If they had made legal threats, it would have been published on our site in 24 hours.
Our privacy policy doesn't allow us to publish these e-mails yet, as they are private communication between TDE and us.
However, once the issue is resolved, there will be a discussion with the admin team as to what will get published exactly.
I don't have to justify our policies to you.
Perhaps you should have started by blocking addresses from Telefónica's IP space that repeatedly come up as these will probably be the Internet cafés?
Would love to. But I can't because TDE has yet to provide me with that info.
Did you first explain what your organisation does in your e-mails? Explain exactly what the problem was and what should be done to fix it? Or did you just say 'give me your dynamic IP blocks?' Did you find the correct contact e-mail address? Get it translated into Spanish if there was no reply? If there was still no reply, find the correct phone number and ring them up on that if all else failed? Perhaps there were no games, perhaps you took what amounts to an entire country's e-mail off the Internet because you were unable to get through to the right department?
I had several e-mails back and forth with TDE, all in english. It is not my job to play translator. I have bigger things to worry about then playing these kinds of stupid games.
I can not, and will not waste my money calling these people. To expect me to make a international call to discuss THEIR problem, is laughable.
It's entirely your problem. Your organisation must take all possible steps before pulling the plug on a country as what you do affects people and trade. If you do not, your organisation will lose credibility, ISPs will find others which at least operate with a modicum of professionalism and accountability, and that will be the end of your venture.
Its not a 'venture' you dolt. We make $0 off of the AHBL. Your opinion means nothing, your comments mean nothing.
Why? Because you are not one of my users.
I take questions and concerns from my users very seriously, and I actively poll people on our announcements list for their feelings on things. If they are happy, I am happy.
If you are unhappy, go jump off a bridge and leave me alone.
If Telefónica is so guilty, why has Steve Linford of Spamhaus stated that he doesn't believe there's that much of a problem with Telefónica since they cracked down at the end of 2003 in the New Scientist? If Telefónica is so guilty, why has your organisation just taken a battering in Comms World
Linford means nothing to me. He is not part of the AHBL, nor is he a user of the AHBL. I may have respect for what the man has done, but thats as far as it goes.
Just because you, or other blacklist maintainers don't have the balls to take a stand and try and force a change, doesn't mean you have a right to judge my actions.
Remember, my list, my rules. You want to play in my sandbox? You play by my rules.
As long as my users are happy, I am happy.
Furthermore, we only take a beating in public because we disclose all of our actions that involve leagal threats on our website. It is our policy for full disclosure on stuff like that. Forgive me if we don't want to operate in a haze that keeps other people out of the loop.
Every news site out there has its own spin on things, especially ones that have been blocked at one point, or have run into a DNSbl before.
ISPs like Telefónica (a giant in the European and Latin American markets of AT&T proportions) which stand to lose time and money sorting this out could easily turn round and sue you for every penny as, unlike the scammers, you've left your contact address. That would be ironic to say the least as well as unfortunate.
They are welcome to try and sue me, but don't forget, the CAN-SPAM act has provisions which give me the right to decide what mail goes in and out my systems. They would have to sue all of my users to get anywhere, and they would fail at that due to protections in place thanks to the CAN-SPAM act.
In short, FOAD.
I'll also make the point you can't get blood from a stone.
Stop whining like a spanked spammer. You and Corsi should get together and compare notes.
If you cannot get basic information like this right then you have shown that you do not understand what you are dealing with. You have to understand what you are dealing with before you pull the plug on it to understand the social impact it will have.
Like I said, in a case like this, I dont give a flying f*** that they are public or privately owned. It does not absolve them from their responsibilities to deal with abuse and illegal activities.
Websites lie, people lie, companies lie.
Let me put it in a context that you may be able to understand. It is like Bell's position in the US before it was broken up. It's a huge country-wide corporation with a practical monopoly on telephone and Internet services.
Do not take me for an idiot. I understand perfectly what it is like.
Allow me to quote another line from the press release:
That was never intended to be a press release. If I had any idea that the AHBL would be put on the spot like that, you can sure bet your ass I would have written up something more formal.
If you block it for six months then you are utterly irresponsible.
And letting illegal activities come from your network, specifically ones that have gotten people murdered is irresponsible. TDE could have easily cut off the problem at the knees before it got this far by doing something as simple as blocking outbound port 25 connections from their dialup or Internet Cafe customers.
But they chose not to. That is not my problem.
They could have given us their dynamic blocks like I had asked.
But they chose not to.
Point being that I have seriously lost patience dealing with them, since I have better things to do then play their little games.
Well we're dealing with some real worldly types here, aren't we? It's not exactly difficult to find out, you switch their home page to English if you can't read Spanish and you get all the investor information you need. See the options there at the top-right?
Not that I need to justify/explain myself to you, but I'll point out that just because a company has private investors doesn't mean that it isn't govt. owned/controlled.
Frankly, I could care less if they are govt or privately owned. Doesn't absolve them from their responsibilities to control the abuse that comes from their network.
All I am trying to do is make sure I have accurate information, because what I have been told is that they are govt owned/operated.
Blocking port 25 prevents direct to mx spam. It forces the spammers to use mail hubs/smart hosts which can be better tracked by the ISP that is hosting the customer in question.
megamailservers.com currently is one of the more noticable sources of phisher scams and 419 scams.
That is why I mentioned them.
You may not care about them, but the users who get tricked by their customers doing illegal things DO care.