I have a xbox 360, and when i get done with it's jtag hack (took a break from it, slight problems, stupid dvd drive eject button won't power the system), but I don't plan on using it for media streaming.
I do though, have my workhorse computer connect to my 1080p. I can browse the web, watch streaming crap if I wanted to (I don't, prefer to download then watch), shit, I can play games on it if I want. But then, my TV is like 3 feet from my computers, so using a mouse it's a big deal, as I have a table right there.
So I guess i'm not the consumer they are looking at, since I don't have a living room or family room (studio apartment).
But I do like the idea of Google TV sitting between the cable box & my TV. Why? Because I refuse to pay for the extras of cable, like DVR. Depending on the control you can have with Google TV, it might be nice. But honestly, I'll probably just use a computer, since I always have extra ones lying around.
If I bought the GoogleTV or AppleTV for my nearly 80-year-old parents would it (1) be able to connect to their old composite-only set? What about S-video?
(2) How easy would it be for them to use? Right now they barely comprehend how to change channels on the Digital-to-analog Converter box ("How do I get this damn TV Guide off the screen???"), so I'm a bit skeptical they could operate either of the internet-based boxes.
(3) Does it work over a 1000 kbit/s line? Or would they need to download first and watch later?
What the hell would your 80 year old parents really want with it? I mean, seriously, they've lived 80 years without it, probably were born before TV's. I think you can safely assume they can go on without it.
Plus, they might be dead before it's released. No offense, just saying.
Did you get sued for it? Maybe you should think about running for office.
"The fart party: we promise to break the political gridlock in washington and also promise to break wind."
Maybe democrats should look into this as a method of getting past fillibustering everything: there's probably not a rule against farting in the face of the speaker to make him pass out (thus breaking the fillibuster). It's also not like that would be beneath the dignity of the senate.
I like the idea of MMA matches between the senators myself.
First; who will be administering this program? Under what authority could an organization possibly 'certify' systems that are located around the world? Next; How often would these certificates need to be updated? Every time a vendor issues a new patch? Third; What kind of crazy-ass DRM would be needed to keep folks from just spoofing the certificates?
Unfortunately, this is the kind of simplistic easy-to-follow proposal that our congress-critter really go for... yeesh.
I know, let's use HDMI, it's safe, no one will crack it.
Every connected device will be mandated to have the bottom 64 bits of its ipv6 address store a pc health certification identifier which will link to their owner's unique citizen identifier. I told you this was coming...
Yes, remind us again, because everyone loves a "I told you so" person.
I tried to get the idea of "Network Access Protection" for the Internet on the agenda, at Microsoft, for 2 years. We already had the client mechanisms for evaluating health-status, and the signed messages for communicating that status.
I was working with big eCommerce and online finance companies. In my proposal, enforcement would be at site logon. Infected machines could not access account services or cart/profiles, etc. They'd get a re-direct to a clearing-house that would disassociate the online brand from the notice of infection. That protection site would have remediation resources.
In the end, we had some great discussions - but MS can't execute - and no one trusts 'em.
Now, Charney waves this thing around. AND WANTS ISPs TO BLACKHOLE clients! Way to go. I see this as another stealth control measure to create a defacto model for denying service. Today, it is a ZeuS infection - tomorrow an HDCP patched player or WikiLeaks cookie.
You get the idea. Stuff this genie back into the bottle.
You wanna know the sad part? I have Qwest and according to them, MS is my ISP, qwest just leases the line to them/me. It's almost enough to make me change ISP, but I am NOT going back to comcast, so i'm sort of SoL.
You order pizza instead of cooking it yourself for EXACTLY the same reason. Cooking pizza is extremely easy. So is installing the PS3's updates.
Pizza requires raw ingredients, time to prepare those ingredients, and time to clean up from the preparation. This situation is more like you have a frozen pizza ready to go in your freezer. Would you take your frozen pizza to a store and pay $30 for someone to put it in the microwave for 5 minutes for you? That's about the level of effort required here.
If they had a microwave oven big enough for the pizza, no.
Microwaved pizza taste worst then frozen cheap pizza.
But other then that, your analogy works in my book.
ya, like 3 decades. Damn, that makes me sort of old.
But I try to remember the price I paid for video games and honestly, I can't remember.
But I sure as fuck know I did NOT pay over $50 for a video game. I have a hard time spending that sort of money on video games. I'd rather get a few used games then pay that much for a video game.
Not to mention over the years I've learned that very few games made are worth the price you pay for them. In fact, most the publishers like to make crappy games for a quick buck, amoungst their few decent titles.
But as for the article, i'm not sure including inflation really counts. oh sure, you math geeks, & account clods probably think I just divided by 0, but the reality of the market is perception. Ya, perception. it's never about the numbers, it's about what the consumers think. If they think that paying $60 is too much for a console game, they probably won't buy it. Part of why PC games are cheaper, they know we aren't stupid and won't buy overpriced games. Of course, the threat that we can pirate it easy always help.
The problem is, the current big boys of the gaming industry, are being ran by accounts and shareholders, and they want all the money they can get from us. In fact, they are modeling themselves so well after their Hollywood counterparts, that I'm sort of surprised that people don't make a bigger deal about it.
...You can get on youtube and watch "Let's Play's" of virtually every popular NES and SNES title for free.....
Explain to me the part where I want to get on youtube and watch videos of people playing video games. And please convince why this would be better then actually playing the video games myself?
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"Why not put out the fire and then bill him for the $75?"
I was thinking he should get a fine, like parking meters, it's only 50 cents an hour to park YMMV and no one's watching too closely and you could park and not pay, but if you're caught it's a $50+ fine.
But to just stand there and watch it burn? That should be criminal, what if people died? I think the firefighters should go to jail. What has his world come to when the people sworn to serve and protect decide not to? Sounds like anarchy.
Wow, your idea sounds great.
So instead of it burning down and he getting some insurance for it, you'd have it lose it instead thru the court systems, where he won't get any money out of it. But I guess maybe thats okay because he's pets would still be alive?
I'd rather live in a country where we help each other, cost be damned. Basic services should be covered, for everyone, no exceptions.
Fire dept and police department services are NOT optional. This isn't a cell phone subscription or some opt in bullshit. These are required services needed to live.
If the voters in that district agreed with you, they would have approved the tax.
Thankfully this is America, where democracy still holds some kind of value, and the actual residents of the county get to decide what their laws say.
I wish i lived in the same United States of America that you do.
There isn't a fire department where he lives. It'd be like you suing the fire department in the next town over for problems with the fire department in your own town.
And if he paid any substantial amount of taxes, his county'd probably have a fire department (it's generally considered a critical service). Tennessee doesn't have a state income tax, so no money from there either.
People want really low taxes, but this is the result: really poor services.
Are you smart enough to realize that not all states have a state income tax? I live in Washington State. We don't have a state income tax (though they are trying). Why? Because we pay taxes on stuff we buy. retail tax.
Do you understand the concept? Tenn will tax something else to make up for the no state income tax, it's how the governments work. The fact that the state, or the county the person lives in is too cheap to get basic firefighting infrustructure going is part of the problem. It seems they are relying on the city, who in turns decides to charge a "subscription" fee.
The sad part is, I get blasted because I have no respect for the dead. When someone is dead, they are dead, move on. Yet, I find people treating the living like this as a poor excuse for fellow humans, and somehow it's all okay with everyone?
What, it's someone else's problem? As long as it doesn't affect you, it's okay?
It's fucking stupid is what it is. I'm in a nation where we are supposed to give a fuck over peeps who died in the 9-11 thing, yet's it's okay to let someone's house & pets burn down because he never paid a $75 fee?
Seriously, fuck off most of you, you are the problem.
Of course this would have no impact on your taxes, your taxes would be just as high.
Why?
I see from your UID it's low, yet you are asking a question of someone who was born yesterday. So how much did you buy your UID for on ebay?
But to the question, it's the basis of capitalism. Once you establish a fee someone pays, you never reduce it, no matter what extra money your able to nickel & dime with other charges later.
Libertarianism is the cancer that is killing Slashdot.
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>they have a fascinating culture, and one thats very different from our own in many ways.
Finding a death penalty for homosexuality fascinating? It should be horrifying. Same thing for atheism or denying Islam.
>Thats pretty much what he said.
Err, transsexualism and homosexuality are two very different things. Iran has a lot of social pressures to force homosexuals into subsidized transsexual treatment, which does nothing but victimize and humiliate homosexuals who have no problem with their gender, its what they want to have sex with that has the theocracts running scared. Theocracy is not a valid form of government. Stop defending it as fascinating. Its victimizing and horrible.
So your saying, because Iran has some different views then us, we should disregard all their culture, because there isn't any redeeming value in it? Seriously?
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Ya, set top boxes are nice, i'm sure.
I have a xbox 360, and when i get done with it's jtag hack (took a break from it, slight problems, stupid dvd drive eject button won't power the system), but I don't plan on using it for media streaming.
I do though, have my workhorse computer connect to my 1080p. I can browse the web, watch streaming crap if I wanted to (I don't, prefer to download then watch), shit, I can play games on it if I want. But then, my TV is like 3 feet from my computers, so using a mouse it's a big deal, as I have a table right there.
So I guess i'm not the consumer they are looking at, since I don't have a living room or family room (studio apartment).
But I do like the idea of Google TV sitting between the cable box & my TV. Why? Because I refuse to pay for the extras of cable, like DVR. Depending on the control you can have with Google TV, it might be nice. But honestly, I'll probably just use a computer, since I always have extra ones lying around.
If I bought the GoogleTV or AppleTV for my nearly 80-year-old parents would it (1) be able to connect to their old composite-only set? What about S-video?
(2) How easy would it be for them to use? Right now they barely comprehend how to change channels on the Digital-to-analog Converter box ("How do I get this damn TV Guide off the screen???"), so I'm a bit skeptical they could operate either of the internet-based boxes.
(3) Does it work over a 1000 kbit/s line? Or would they need to download first and watch later?
What the hell would your 80 year old parents really want with it? I mean, seriously, they've lived 80 years without it, probably were born before TV's. I think you can safely assume they can go on without it.
Plus, they might be dead before it's released. No offense, just saying.
it's a good thing it's only $99
Oh no it isn't....
That's merely the entrance fee.. Admission to individual attractions, food, beverage and use of toilets is all extra.
It's been jailbroken already, so actually, $99 is all you need.
Did you get sued for it? Maybe you should think about running for office.
"The fart party: we promise to break the political gridlock in washington and also promise to break wind."
Maybe democrats should look into this as a method of getting past fillibustering everything: there's probably not a rule against farting in the face of the speaker to make him pass out (thus breaking the fillibuster). It's also not like that would be beneath the dignity of the senate.
I like the idea of MMA matches between the senators myself.
I never got the leet speak in spam thing. Sure, it might get past the filter, but who can read it? Are they trying to sell drugs to script kiddies?
I figured someone that falls for that crap, bad spelling and all, sort of deserves losing their money.
"... while bot-infected PCs might be barred from the Internet."
So, with the three Windows computers left on the Internet after this happens, I wonder what it'll be like...
I know my eq2 games will be boring.
First; who will be administering this program? Under what authority could an organization possibly 'certify' systems that are located around the world?
Next; How often would these certificates need to be updated? Every time a vendor issues a new patch?
Third; What kind of crazy-ass DRM would be needed to keep folks from just spoofing the certificates?
Unfortunately, this is the kind of simplistic easy-to-follow proposal that our congress-critter really go for... yeesh.
I know, let's use HDMI, it's safe, no one will crack it.
There is no cure for stupid.
death.
Every connected device will be mandated to have the bottom 64 bits of its ipv6 address store a pc health certification identifier which will link to their owner's unique citizen identifier. I told you this was coming...
Yes, remind us again, because everyone loves a "I told you so" person.
I tried to get the idea of "Network Access Protection" for the Internet on the agenda, at Microsoft, for 2 years. We already had the client mechanisms for evaluating health-status, and the signed messages for communicating that status.
I was working with big eCommerce and online finance companies. In my proposal, enforcement would be at site logon. Infected machines could not access account services or cart/profiles, etc. They'd get a re-direct to a clearing-house that would disassociate the online brand from the notice of infection. That protection site would have remediation resources.
In the end, we had some great discussions - but MS can't execute - and no one trusts 'em.
Now, Charney waves this thing around. AND WANTS ISPs TO BLACKHOLE clients! Way to go. I see this as another stealth control measure to create a defacto model for denying service. Today, it is a ZeuS infection - tomorrow an HDCP patched player or WikiLeaks cookie.
You get the idea. Stuff this genie back into the bottle.
You wanna know the sad part? I have Qwest and according to them, MS is my ISP, qwest just leases the line to them/me. It's almost enough to make me change ISP, but I am NOT going back to comcast, so i'm sort of SoL.
I have a simpler pc health idea, stop installing the disease that is windows.
I'm a gamer, so what should I do then?
Microsoft's trustworthy computing group
I see people defending BB and I see people say they are ripping them off.
Look at it this way.
Sony has put out a few firmware updates that have bricked machines.
If Best Buy does the update and bricks your machine, guess what? Your getting a new machine.
So, while most of use wouldn't bother, you can see it as insurance.
You order pizza instead of cooking it yourself for EXACTLY the same reason. Cooking pizza is extremely easy. So is installing the PS3's updates.
Pizza requires raw ingredients, time to prepare those ingredients, and time to clean up from the preparation. This situation is more like you have a frozen pizza ready to go in your freezer. Would you take your frozen pizza to a store and pay $30 for someone to put it in the microwave for 5 minutes for you? That's about the level of effort required here.
If they had a microwave oven big enough for the pizza, no.
Microwaved pizza taste worst then frozen cheap pizza.
But other then that, your analogy works in my book.
And now i'm hungry!
ya, like 3 decades. Damn, that makes me sort of old.
But I try to remember the price I paid for video games and honestly, I can't remember.
But I sure as fuck know I did NOT pay over $50 for a video game. I have a hard time spending that sort of money on video games. I'd rather get a few used games then pay that much for a video game.
Not to mention over the years I've learned that very few games made are worth the price you pay for them. In fact, most the publishers like to make crappy games for a quick buck, amoungst their few decent titles.
But as for the article, i'm not sure including inflation really counts. oh sure, you math geeks, & account clods probably think I just divided by 0, but the reality of the market is perception. Ya, perception. it's never about the numbers, it's about what the consumers think. If they think that paying $60 is too much for a console game, they probably won't buy it. Part of why PC games are cheaper, they know we aren't stupid and won't buy overpriced games. Of course, the threat that we can pirate it easy always help.
The problem is, the current big boys of the gaming industry, are being ran by accounts and shareholders, and they want all the money they can get from us. In fact, they are modeling themselves so well after their Hollywood counterparts, that I'm sort of surprised that people don't make a bigger deal about it.
...You can get on youtube and watch "Let's Play's" of virtually every popular NES and SNES title for free.....
Explain to me the part where I want to get on youtube and watch videos of people playing video games. And please convince why this would be better then actually playing the video games myself?
lol, troll huh?
"Why not put out the fire and then bill him for the $75?"
I was thinking he should get a fine, like parking meters, it's only 50 cents an hour to park YMMV and no one's watching too closely and you could park and not pay, but if you're caught it's a $50+ fine.
I say put out the fire and bill him $7500+. If he don't pay put a lien on the house and take the house.
But to just stand there and watch it burn? That should be criminal, what if people died? I think the firefighters should go to jail. What has his world come to when the people sworn to serve and protect decide not to? Sounds like anarchy.
Wow, your idea sounds great.
So instead of it burning down and he getting some insurance for it, you'd have it lose it instead thru the court systems, where he won't get any money out of it. But I guess maybe thats okay because he's pets would still be alive?
I'd rather live in a country where we help each other, cost be damned. Basic services should be covered, for everyone, no exceptions.
Fire dept and police department services are NOT optional. This isn't a cell phone subscription or some opt in bullshit. These are required services needed to live.
If the voters in that district agreed with you, they would have approved the tax.
Thankfully this is America, where democracy still holds some kind of value, and the actual residents of the county get to decide what their laws say.
I wish i lived in the same United States of America that you do.
There isn't a fire department where he lives. It'd be like you suing the fire department in the next town over for problems with the fire department in your own town.
And if he paid any substantial amount of taxes, his county'd probably have a fire department (it's generally considered a critical service). Tennessee doesn't have a state income tax, so no money from there either.
People want really low taxes, but this is the result: really poor services.
Are you smart enough to realize that not all states have a state income tax? I live in Washington State. We don't have a state income tax (though they are trying). Why? Because we pay taxes on stuff we buy. retail tax.
Do you understand the concept? Tenn will tax something else to make up for the no state income tax, it's how the governments work. The fact that the state, or the county the person lives in is too cheap to get basic firefighting infrustructure going is part of the problem. It seems they are relying on the city, who in turns decides to charge a "subscription" fee.
The sad part is, I get blasted because I have no respect for the dead. When someone is dead, they are dead, move on. Yet, I find people treating the living like this as a poor excuse for fellow humans, and somehow it's all okay with everyone?
What, it's someone else's problem? As long as it doesn't affect you, it's okay?
It's fucking stupid is what it is. I'm in a nation where we are supposed to give a fuck over peeps who died in the 9-11 thing, yet's it's okay to let someone's house & pets burn down because he never paid a $75 fee?
Seriously, fuck off most of you, you are the problem.
Of course this would have no impact on your taxes, your taxes would be just as high.
Why?
I see from your UID it's low, yet you are asking a question of someone who was born yesterday. So how much did you buy your UID for on ebay?
But to the question, it's the basis of capitalism. Once you establish a fee someone pays, you never reduce it, no matter what extra money your able to nickel & dime with other charges later.
Hmm, seems like gps with any webbased interface should be prior art on this.
If I know you and you want to know where i'm at? Call me on my cell phone, text me, email me and ask.
I love the creative edit of the headline.
Now peeps, who didn't read the article, are talking about monitors, when it's actually about laptops screen size.
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Libertarianism is the cancer that is killing Slashdot.
---linuxrocks123
Um, 4chan tweeted and wants it's meme back.
>they have a fascinating culture, and one thats very different from our own in many ways.
Finding a death penalty for homosexuality fascinating? It should be horrifying. Same thing for atheism or denying Islam.
>Thats pretty much what he said.
Err, transsexualism and homosexuality are two very different things. Iran has a lot of social pressures to force homosexuals into subsidized transsexual treatment, which does nothing but victimize and humiliate homosexuals who have no problem with their gender, its what they want to have sex with that has the theocracts running scared. Theocracy is not a valid form of government. Stop defending it as fascinating. Its victimizing and horrible.
So your saying, because Iran has some different views then us, we should disregard all their culture, because there isn't any redeeming value in it? Seriously?