I actually had a long discussion about accountability vs. free speech with my wife yesterday, and she was shocked that you can't sue someone for insulting you (she's from Europe). The idea that someone can call you a stupid moron, and you can't sue them, is simply incomprehensible to her. I know that you can sue someone for making false accusations of adultery (or similarly damaging), and circulating the rumors (slander), or printing them in some fashion (libel). At what point does freedom of speech cross over to something which should be dealt with in a modern form of the old fashioned honor duel?
Maybe they don't have more important cases in there courts over in europe, but if we allowed lawsuits for talking smack, nothing would get done in courts due to all the backlog.
Who gives a fuck if someone insults you? Calls you names? Says they fucked your mom? Seriously, why do you care that some person online, anonymous or not, says? I don't give a damn about what you say.
I like to play EQ2, and you know what the favorite thing to do in that game is? Talk shit to peeps who take chat too seriously. yep, I'm one of those. Watching you get pissed and angry over nothing entertains me.
Cancer is a killer. Even the survivors die a little every day.
Weird, so is Life, 'cause we all die a little day by day.
Not to make it seem like your cancer doesn't suck or anything, but it's part of life. You are one of the unlucky ones, yes, but that is life. Some peeps have other problems, some don't have any problems, just part of life.
But just so you know, we are all dying a little, day by day, you got nothing special on that.
I have no problem with them testing taser on meth addicts. In fact, I think it would be good to test whatever they want on repeated offense drug addicts. They are the dredges on society, and they'd rip you off in a heart beat.
Seriously, drug addicts might think twice about keep using if they know that they will get used for research.
You have to pay more because everyone else around you are afraid to ask the same questions and don't walk away when exposed to price gouging.
Honestly, most Americans are really spineless now. and it started 2 decades ago. I still get looks of astonishment from people when I haggle price. I refuse to buy a car or any big ticket item at the posted price. Most people think that you either get arrested for doing it, or they are afraid to.
Heck I haggle on small ticket items. When I buy wine, if I find a good one I'll ask for a discount if I buy 3 or more bottles.
I refused to see avatar until it was almost at the end of it's run. I got a better experience as I watched it in a mostly empty theater on a $8.00 a ticket matinee.. I though it was neat, but not impressed enough to go and see another one or pay more than regular price.
But then I'm evil... I smuggle in a $1.25 candybar in my pocket instead of buying the $30.00 1 pound chocobar.. at the concession stand.
Oh, your that jerk.
Just so you know, when I see ya coming, I raise the prices of everything to compensate for your dickering, i mean, your haggling.
So basicly, Apple has the ball, and they don't want Adobe to play. So Adobe now has gone running to an adult trying to get Apple in trouble.
First, that makes Adobe a snitch. Second, Adobe losses all respect by the others that are playing. Third, as far as I know, there isn't any laws that say you can not make it so some other company can't make products for your devices.
Not sure about others, but where I grew up, Adobe would be picked on and left out of everything after that.
Now, if Adobe was smart & rich, they'd figure out a better way to get their product across. Guess they are neither.
After RTFA, yes, the passwords were stored using SHA-512. However, for three days the login form for one of the compromised services was altered, possibly allowing clear-text passwrod grabbing.
Is Apache a valuable target? I'm interested in what people would crack this site for, if not for fun or proof of concept.
Also, inb4 "Ubuntu sucks" or similar trolls. Linux haters would be in here if it were Ubuntu or Red Hat. Netcraft would be trolling if FreeBSD were the host OS. And God Forbid Apache had been using Server 2008.
We have a password expiration policy at my work. Every time I change my password I have to memorize a new one. So I pick a password that's easy to remember, as such it's also easy to guess. If I could just memorize a password once, and keep it forever I'd be using a password that's essentially random. This policy is nonsense.
I got ya beat. I have 2 passwords. If one doesn't work, then the other will. That way I don't have to remember a new password everytime, I just swap between the 2.
Its a bit worse than that in the U.S. actually. Accidents that are commonly associated with alcohol abuse, i.e. single car accidents at night when the car goes off the road and hits a tree, are also counted as alcohol related with or without any evidence that alcohol or any substance was involved at all. If you fall asleep at the wheel hit a tree and die, that is counted as alcohol-related.
Care to provide some proof with you lie, err, i mean, with your made up info?
I have a handful of friends who adopted Intel's latest G2 X25-m models at their release. With new firmware, they are all still reporting notably reduced performance over time. Everyone knows what causes it, it is entirely understandable given the storage technology in question, but that doesn't make it any less of a drag. I'll wait and see how things change before doing the switch.
Everyone knows what causes it huh?
Sorry, that's a really stupid assumption, because, I don't know what causes it.
I'm liberal, it just seems wikileaks is going out of it's way to make the military look bad and then play itself up.
I'm a realist, and I it sucks that sites such as wikileaks have to do stuff like this. They aren't going out of their way to make the military look bad. The military does that all by itself without anyones help. Had they admitted to a fuck up, and then talk about how they were going to make it so these things didn't happen, they would of gotten less of a outcry and more public sympathy. Instead, they cover it up.
Here, to make it easy for your "liberal" mind. Say you come home, and your wife is dead. Then you hear police sirens and you decide to take off instead of being taken in for questioning. How does that look to the police? Like your guilty, because your running, trying to hide something.
We are humans, we make mistakes all the fucking time. Trying to act like the military, the police, the president don't make those same mistakes is stupid, and in some cases, criminal. How are we to teach our children to stand up and be responsible for your actions when we don't hold ourselves to that standard?
As for wikileaks using this to make money, or fame, or whatever, please, shut up. Wikileaks runs by donations. Always has, always will. Just because a story they are covering happens to go big, ya, they get more exposure as a side product of that, but thats good.
We need sites like wikileaks thats not afraid to host and show the things that people want hidden. This is stuff governments/corporations/people with power are doing and hiding. Maybe you want to believe that everything has your best interest in mind, but I live in the real world, where most everything wants to control you, make money off of you, or just know everything you are doing.
Time to start a class action lawsuit against everyone for not thinking of the modern readers.
We don't need books, we got our digital copies. yes, we want all pictures intact (mainly in sex books), and damn it, we don't want to pay more then it cost for the paperback version of the same book!!!!
Actually, we don't want to pay at all, but thats not really fair to the authors, but damn if they should be given more money then they do for a print book of their works.
So, if you don't think of us, the modern readers, then your going to regret it. Because most of us modern readers, can well, read. And using google to find a copy of that ebook for free, is well, a few clicks away.
So remember, while your trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip, we can just find a digital copy of that turnip.
The article wasn't terrible for a change, as the commentators didn't ignore indie games outright. But a couple things stuck out at me:
John Abercrombie: "I think there's just too many options out there, honestly. Too many options for people to buy. With the consoles, there's just one. You just go to the store and buy the one."
So would that one be PS3, Xbox 360, or Wii? At least PC games are supposed to run on both NVIDIA graphics and ATI graphics.
John Abercrombie: "I think browser-based games are really cool...you don't need a PC, you just have something that has a browser. That way, people who were targeting PC or multiple configurations on PC before can just target a browser."
With or without the DOM event model? With or without SVG? With or without HTML5 Canvas? With or without HTML5 Audio? With or without Flash? With or without Java?
Joe Kreiner: "Most of the innovation right now, console-side, is designed around a living room environment. That's not typically where you have your PC."
So you ignore the entire home theater PC market, which has grown since HDTVs displaced SDTVs in stores.
While I don't really disagree with what your saying, I think your not giving how stupid people are about computers their due.
We, here on/. tend to know and understand computers. But out in the real world? hell no. People don't know shit about computers. So ya, from that perspective, a console, say a 360, is going to play 360 games. You don't have to worry about what video card you got, if you have enough ram, etc...
Of course, imo, if peeps with computers took actually a few minutes to go through their computer, look at everything, look at the settings, and actually familiarise themselves with it, i think they'd find it's not that complicated of a device.
And honestly, it's a big part Nvidia & ATI's fault. They put out new video cards, then rebrand older cards with new numbers, keep jumping naming around, and make a big mess of the video card market. How were you know know that Ati 9200 they are still selling is 6 generations old? it says PCI on it. (lol)
But consoles are starting to get long in the teeth, and over the next 3 years, I'm guessing you'll see a rise in PC gaming because the smart devs are going to still be making games for it.
..stop shipping them as obvious console ports. Pretty much every major PC release in the last 2 years has had their control systems ported to the PC in a manner that can only be described as half-assed. Where it's most obvious is in menu systems (Dead Space), Vehicle controls (Red Faction, ME1), and Quick-Time events (Pick any game that had them). If you're going to put something on PC then you need to stop porting crappy control configurations and do the job right.
They did this with metro 2033. I have to use my 360 gamepad for some of the buttons, because there's not a keyboard/mouse equivlent (like changing ammo type, start button, etc)
Piracy isn't the problem on the PC platform, crappy games and console ports are. no one is going to keep buying crappy games. maybe it's peeps are getting smart and trying games out on PC before they buy them or something, but the quality of games have been sucking then spitting it out on your shoes.
It's worse than that. They don't even have to rationalize that it is the name of a person. They can just make up a short story right there on the spot, and name it with whatever random sting of characters they have, and they have now created a perfectly valid proper noun that is completely within the spirit of the new rules.
E.G.
Zxggrta: The story of a boy playing Scrabble
There once was a boy playing scrabble. He didn't have any real words in his tiles, so he decided to write a short story called "Zxggrta". Since he wrote the story, "Zxggrta" is now a valid word in Scrabble.
The End
Except when the word is challenged, your going to have a hard time proving it's a word. noun or not.
It's trivial to ruin someone's life at this point using child pornography. Cracking a WPA password isn't nearly that complicated.
Also, note how the guy he was trying to frame was still arrested, and still barred from seeing his children, after someone sent the police a hard drive they claimed belonged to the guy. Of all the obvious frame jobs, this was dead sloppy, and yet the victim was STILL victimized by the authorities. I'm surprised they aren't summarily castrating people without proof these days. After all, won't someone think of the children...
I think someone was thinking of the children when they took the pictures and videos...
Also, by "Oklahoma bomber" I assume you mean Timothy McVeigh, who was not a terrorist. He was a badly misguided revolutionary.
Is there a difference?
McVeigh and the Terrorists used the same actions to the same ends. Even if the reasons differed, the ends were the same. Therefore: If it quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck.
Unless of course the "duck" is a speaker with some sort of recording of a duck playing thru it.
All the other versions of you in all the other branches of spacetime are toast. The only branch of spacetime where you can still reach Slashdot's server is this one where you got really lucky.
I didn't really like them anyways... they always seemed like a crappy copy of me.
Is this really what the bill is about? My assumption is that this is intended to give the President the authority to shut down botnet controllers during DDoS attacks. Waiting for the courts in such a scenario is unreasonable. The police can immediately respond to a crime in progress; this would make something similar possible in a botnet/DDoS scenario.
As long as the law clearly indicates that the powers are authorized for use against attacks (rather than against political speech or against copyright infringement) I don't see any issue with this thing.
Doesn't matter what the bill is about. It's the power this president and future presidents will have. And it's power meant to be abused. The president isn't a police man. he's not our moral officer, and honestly, why the hell are we letting our presidents have this much power?
They should be running our country, not controlling it. Just typical fear tactics, guess it never stops.
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I actually had a long discussion about accountability vs. free speech with my wife yesterday, and she was shocked that you can't sue someone for insulting you (she's from Europe). The idea that someone can call you a stupid moron, and you can't sue them, is simply incomprehensible to her. I know that you can sue someone for making false accusations of adultery (or similarly damaging), and circulating the rumors (slander), or printing them in some fashion (libel). At what point does freedom of speech cross over to something which should be dealt with in a modern form of the old fashioned honor duel?
Maybe they don't have more important cases in there courts over in europe, but if we allowed lawsuits for talking smack, nothing would get done in courts due to all the backlog.
Who gives a fuck if someone insults you? Calls you names? Says they fucked your mom? Seriously, why do you care that some person online, anonymous or not, says? I don't give a damn about what you say.
I like to play EQ2, and you know what the favorite thing to do in that game is? Talk shit to peeps who take chat too seriously.
yep, I'm one of those. Watching you get pissed and angry over nothing entertains me.
Cancer is a killer. Even the survivors die a little every day.
Weird, so is Life, 'cause we all die a little day by day.
Not to make it seem like your cancer doesn't suck or anything, but it's part of life. You are one of the unlucky ones, yes, but that is life.
Some peeps have other problems, some don't have any problems, just part of life.
But just so you know, we are all dying a little, day by day, you got nothing special on that.
I have no problem with them testing taser on meth addicts. In fact, I think it would be good to test whatever they want on repeated offense drug addicts. They are the dredges on society, and they'd rip you off in a heart beat.
Seriously, drug addicts might think twice about keep using if they know that they will get used for research.
Then again, they probably won't care.
I know I don't.
Making it a small fraction of the price in inflation-adjusted dollars might have something to do with it.
Nothing could ever compel me to spend $1000 in in '98 on a touch-screen computer (with a non-touch OS).
But $500 in 2010? Shit, I think I could dig that kind of cash out of my couch cushions.
I think I want to come hang out at your house.
lets see, a chip that cost less then $1 will probably add at least $20 onto the phone cost.
You have to pay more because everyone else around you are afraid to ask the same questions and don't walk away when exposed to price gouging.
Honestly, most Americans are really spineless now. and it started 2 decades ago. I still get looks of astonishment from people when I haggle price. I refuse to buy a car or any big ticket item at the posted price. Most people think that you either get arrested for doing it, or they are afraid to.
Heck I haggle on small ticket items. When I buy wine, if I find a good one I'll ask for a discount if I buy 3 or more bottles.
I refused to see avatar until it was almost at the end of it's run. I got a better experience as I watched it in a mostly empty theater on a $8.00 a ticket matinee.. I though it was neat, but not impressed enough to go and see another one or pay more than regular price.
But then I'm evil... I smuggle in a $1.25 candybar in my pocket instead of buying the $30.00 1 pound chocobar.. at the concession stand.
Oh, your that jerk.
Just so you know, when I see ya coming, I raise the prices of everything to compensate for your dickering, i mean, your haggling.
So basicly, Apple has the ball, and they don't want Adobe to play. So Adobe now has gone running to an adult trying to get Apple in trouble.
First, that makes Adobe a snitch. Second, Adobe losses all respect by the others that are playing. Third, as far as I know, there isn't any laws that say you can not make it so some other company can't make products for your devices.
Not sure about others, but where I grew up, Adobe would be picked on and left out of everything after that.
Now, if Adobe was smart & rich, they'd figure out a better way to get their product across. Guess they are neither.
After RTFA, yes, the passwords were stored using SHA-512. However, for three days the login form for one of the compromised services was altered, possibly allowing clear-text passwrod grabbing.
Is Apache a valuable target? I'm interested in what people would crack this site for, if not for fun or proof of concept.
Also, inb4 "Ubuntu sucks" or similar trolls. Linux haters would be in here if it were Ubuntu or Red Hat. Netcraft would be trolling if FreeBSD were the host OS. And God Forbid Apache had been using Server 2008.
If they ran AmigaOS they'd be okay.
We have a password expiration policy at my work. Every time I change my password I have to memorize a new one. So I pick a password that's easy to remember, as such it's also easy to guess. If I could just memorize a password once, and keep it forever I'd be using a password that's essentially random. This policy is nonsense.
I got ya beat. I have 2 passwords. If one doesn't work, then the other will. That way I don't have to remember a new password everytime, I just swap between the 2.
hunter1 & hunter2
Its a bit worse than that in the U.S. actually. Accidents that are commonly associated with alcohol abuse, i.e. single car accidents at night when the car goes off the road and hits a tree, are also counted as alcohol related with or without any evidence that alcohol or any substance was involved at all. If you fall asleep at the wheel hit a tree and die, that is counted as alcohol-related.
Care to provide some proof with you lie, err, i mean, with your made up info?
I have a handful of friends who adopted Intel's latest G2 X25-m models at their release. With new firmware, they are all still reporting notably reduced performance over time. Everyone knows what causes it, it is entirely understandable given the storage technology in question, but that doesn't make it any less of a drag. I'll wait and see how things change before doing the switch.
Everyone knows what causes it huh?
Sorry, that's a really stupid assumption, because, I don't know what causes it.
So I guess not everyone knows what causes it.
This. Would you also read her diary? Both of those is extremely intrusive and will take them about 1 minute to get around. ...
Yes, she would need to learn that writing down stuff you don't want other people to read is really stupid.
I'm liberal, it just seems wikileaks is going out of it's way to make the military look bad and then play itself up.
I'm a realist, and I it sucks that sites such as wikileaks have to do stuff like this. They aren't going out of their way to make the military look bad. The military does that all by itself without anyones help. Had they admitted to a fuck up, and then talk about how they were going to make it so these things didn't happen, they would of gotten less of a outcry and more public sympathy. Instead, they cover it up.
Here, to make it easy for your "liberal" mind. Say you come home, and your wife is dead. Then you hear police sirens and you decide to take off instead of being taken in for questioning. How does that look to the police? Like your guilty, because your running, trying to hide something.
We are humans, we make mistakes all the fucking time. Trying to act like the military, the police, the president don't make those same mistakes is stupid, and in some cases, criminal. How are we to teach our children to stand up and be responsible for your actions when we don't hold ourselves to that standard?
As for wikileaks using this to make money, or fame, or whatever, please, shut up.
Wikileaks runs by donations. Always has, always will. Just because a story they are covering happens to go big, ya, they get more exposure as a side product of that, but thats good.
We need sites like wikileaks thats not afraid to host and show the things that people want hidden. This is stuff governments/corporations/people with power are doing and hiding. Maybe you want to believe that everything has your best interest in mind, but I live in the real world, where most everything wants to control you, make money off of you, or just know everything you are doing.
Time to start a class action lawsuit against everyone for not thinking of the modern readers.
We don't need books, we got our digital copies. yes, we want all pictures intact (mainly in sex books), and damn it, we don't want to pay more then it cost for the paperback version of the same book!!!!
Actually, we don't want to pay at all, but thats not really fair to the authors, but damn if they should be given more money then they do for a print book of their works.
So, if you don't think of us, the modern readers, then your going to regret it. Because most of us modern readers, can well, read. And using google to find a copy of that ebook for free, is well, a few clicks away.
So remember, while your trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip, we can just find a digital copy of that turnip.
The article wasn't terrible for a change, as the commentators didn't ignore indie games outright. But a couple things stuck out at me:
John Abercrombie: "I think there's just too many options out there, honestly. Too many options for people to buy. With the consoles, there's just one. You just go to the store and buy the one."
So would that one be PS3, Xbox 360, or Wii? At least PC games are supposed to run on both NVIDIA graphics and ATI graphics.
John Abercrombie: "I think browser-based games are really cool...you don't need a PC, you just have something that has a browser. That way, people who were targeting PC or multiple configurations on PC before can just target a browser."
With or without the DOM event model? With or without SVG? With or without HTML5 Canvas? With or without HTML5 Audio? With or without Flash? With or without Java?
Joe Kreiner: "Most of the innovation right now, console-side, is designed around a living room environment. That's not typically where you have your PC."
So you ignore the entire home theater PC market, which has grown since HDTVs displaced SDTVs in stores.
While I don't really disagree with what your saying, I think your not giving how stupid people are about computers their due.
We, here on /. tend to know and understand computers. But out in the real world? hell no. People don't know shit about computers. So ya, from that perspective, a console, say a 360, is going to play 360 games. You don't have to worry about what video card you got, if you have enough ram, etc...
Of course, imo, if peeps with computers took actually a few minutes to go through their computer, look at everything, look at the settings, and actually familiarise themselves with it, i think they'd find it's not that complicated of a device.
And honestly, it's a big part Nvidia & ATI's fault. They put out new video cards, then rebrand older cards with new numbers, keep jumping naming around, and make a big mess of the video card market. How were you know know that Ati 9200 they are still selling is 6 generations old? it says PCI on it. (lol)
But consoles are starting to get long in the teeth, and over the next 3 years, I'm guessing you'll see a rise in PC gaming because the smart devs are going to still be making games for it.
..stop shipping them as obvious console ports. Pretty much every major PC release in the last 2 years has had their control systems ported to the PC in a manner that can only be described as half-assed. Where it's most obvious is in menu systems (Dead Space), Vehicle controls (Red Faction, ME1), and Quick-Time events (Pick any game that had them). If you're going to put something on PC then you need to stop porting crappy control configurations and do the job right.
They did this with metro 2033. I have to use my 360 gamepad for some of the buttons, because there's not a keyboard/mouse equivlent (like changing ammo type, start button, etc)
Piracy isn't the problem on the PC platform, crappy games and console ports are. no one is going to keep buying crappy games. maybe it's peeps are getting smart and trying games out on PC before they buy them or something, but the quality of games have been sucking then spitting it out on your shoes.
It's worse than that. They don't even have to rationalize that it is the name of a person. They can just make up a short story right there on the spot, and name it with whatever random sting of characters they have, and they have now created a perfectly valid proper noun that is completely within the spirit of the new rules.
E.G.
Zxggrta: The story of a boy playing Scrabble
There once was a boy playing scrabble. He didn't have any real words in his tiles, so he decided to write a short story called "Zxggrta". Since he wrote the story, "Zxggrta" is now a valid word in Scrabble.
The End
Except when the word is challenged, your going to have a hard time proving it's a word. noun or not.
No, but at least they can let them out. Corpses stay in the ground.
Tell that to Jesus!
pics or it didn't happen.
Exactly.
It's trivial to ruin someone's life at this point using child pornography. Cracking a WPA password isn't nearly that complicated.
Also, note how the guy he was trying to frame was still arrested, and still barred from seeing his children, after someone sent the police a hard drive they claimed belonged to the guy. Of all the obvious frame jobs, this was dead sloppy, and yet the victim was STILL victimized by the authorities. I'm surprised they aren't summarily castrating people without proof these days. After all, won't someone think of the children...
I think someone was thinking of the children when they took the pictures and videos...
sorry, too soon?
Also, by "Oklahoma bomber" I assume you mean Timothy McVeigh, who was not a terrorist. He was a badly misguided revolutionary.
Is there a difference?
McVeigh and the Terrorists used the same actions to the same ends. Even if the reasons differed, the ends were the same. Therefore: If it quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck.
Unless of course the "duck" is a speaker with some sort of recording of a duck playing thru it.
Friends don't let friends use office, period.
That is why I go into stores and steal the actual DVD's. Much less punishment if I get caught and it is actual theft.
plus after you rip it, you can go sell it.
If I had $50M I would buy a rocket ship and go to the moon and Mars and take a bunch of Victoria's Secret models with me.
Lord British might have something to say about that.
Ya, probably save me a seat on that rocket.
All the other versions of you in all the other branches of spacetime are toast. The only branch of spacetime where you can still reach Slashdot's server is this one where you got really lucky.
I didn't really like them anyways... they always seemed like a crappy copy of me.
Is this really what the bill is about? My assumption is that this is intended to give the President the authority to shut down botnet controllers during DDoS attacks. Waiting for the courts in such a scenario is unreasonable. The police can immediately respond to a crime in progress; this would make something similar possible in a botnet/DDoS scenario.
As long as the law clearly indicates that the powers are authorized for use against attacks (rather than against political speech or against copyright infringement) I don't see any issue with this thing.
Doesn't matter what the bill is about. It's the power this president and future presidents will have. And it's power meant to be abused. The president isn't a police man. he's not our moral officer, and honestly, why the hell are we letting our presidents have this much power?
They should be running our country, not controlling it. Just typical fear tactics, guess it never stops.