Actually, if I were a developer interested in getting heavily involved in OS development (which I am), and had the time (which I don't), something like this would be appealing to me. Trying to get one's arms around Linux, much less to be able to obtain commit status is about near impossible for someone just starting out. HURD is much smaller and the mountain to climb much lower to reach the point of being able to contribute to the project. I also think it's premature to write off micro-kernel technology all together at this point. Massively Multi-core CPUs (as in 100's or 1000's of cores) may mitigate the performance hit that micro-kernels suffer from on today's hardware and may prove to be a better fit than the monolithic Linux kernel of today. I don't know that to be fact, though no doubt many here will point out how wrong that position is, but it makes sense to me instinctively. The point is, no knowledge gained is wasted knowledge and whether it leads to enhancements to Linux or boosts the viability of this technology, the endeavor is certainly worth exploring.
At the risk of being lambasted, I don't understand why everyone is kicking so hard at HURD. Sure, it's nowhere close to Linux in any respect, but then it never attracted the throngs of developers that Linux did. OS/X is proof that the idea of building on the mach kernel can result in a sound and performant OS. I for one salute those that have stuck with or picked up development of what many would consider a lost cause. Eschewing a technology because it's not popular does not engender innovation. Personally, I hope the HURD team begins to attract more developers and eventually begins to catch up with Linux because competition, even in the FOSS arena, is always a good thing.
What you pay for is access to the PKI system that is used to sign all code that runs on iOS devices. The $99 and your membership are what Apple uses to validate that your a legitimate developer. This is all part of the security model of the platform. You do want a secure platform don't you.....?
If that were true, then a $1 one-time charge to my credit card should be sufficient to verify my identity. Does charging me $99 (and forcing me to renew it annually) make this any more secure? After all, they've already hit me up for an overpriced Apple development machine. Maybe Steve just needs the extra $98 to purchase more ninja stars.
a $250,000 reward for new information that results in the identification, arrest and criminal conviction of such individual(s)
I don't suppose "MS, your security sucks" would qualify as new information, although that's "who's" ultimately responsible for the success of this botnet. Oh well.
Exactly. How does it work again?
1.) Get lowest bid proposal from committee insider.
2.) Make slightly lower bid to win contract.
3.) Win contract, and use money from contract to fund committee insider's re-election campaign.
4.) Rinse, repeat.
Close.
However, item 2 is not a requirement. A lot more goes into deciding who gets the contract than lowest bid (such as how much the contractor donates to the congressman's campaign).
Windows 95 also had a nicer migration experience from Windows 3.1. OS/2 Warp had a seperate Windows 3.1 mode, but switching back and forth was painful.
Wha? OS/2 Warp 4 could install directly on top of Windows 3.1 and Windows 3.1 applications ran seamlessly as if they were native OS/2 apps. What "switching back and forth" are you talking about? This didn't work for all Windows 3.1 applications (e.g. those with VxD drivers), but for most it was a no-brainer.
Oh yes. The single message queue issue. On this point I concede your argument. This was the result of IBM's (shortsighted IMHO) determination to not break compatibility with legacy (especially 16-bit) applications. This issue could have been easily resolved, at the expense of breaking compatibility, but IBM refused to deal with it (another of IBM's blunders).
When Microsoft released Windows 95 at nearly the same time, they did what apple does now. Show the product, show them how to use it, make it seem so much easier then before and what the other guys do. So when people got windows 95 they knew what it was and what it was going to do.
No, OS/2 was superior to Win95 in nearly every way at the time. The reason for OS/2 demise had little to nothing to do with technology, but a combination of the "somewhat questionable" tactics MS used to force PC vendors to pre-install Win95 on every box shipped, and the ineptness of IBM's marketing.
Actually, no, IBM still owns (and maintains) OS/2. Serenity is only an authorized re-seller, marketing it under the name eComStation. The only real enhancements made by Serenity have been in the form of additional device drivers and add-ons, mainly for the purpose of extending it's life.
eComStation is a "barely" warmed over (as in bugfixes only) release of OS/2 Warp 4 which IBM last shipped in 2001. Had IBM released the source code to someone who might actually continue development (even if not open-sourcing it) there's no telling what kind of OS it could have evolved into by now.
Mono and by extension.net is a piece of shit and the only people who care are shills and the people that have been convinced by the shills to believe the hype. Even MS is abandoning.shit for javascript/html5 in their next OS. Hahahahahahaha
Well done. I too would post as AC if all I had to say was an idiotic, embarrassingly stupid comment like that.
Whether or not you think Mono has value, granting a perpetual license to it to someone who will do something with it was the right thing to do. Allowing a particular technology to be continued rather than just sitting on it because they have no use for it should be applauded. I only wish IBM had done this with OS/2 many years ago. Who knows what would have become of it.
Name one legitimate reason to want to jailbreak your phone now days.
I'll give you one (there are others I assure you). I'm a software developer. I paid good $$ for my iPhone and if I want to write my OWN programs to run on it and not pay Apple $99 a year for the privilige, then my only option is to jailbreak it so I can put MY software on MY phone.
This happened back in 1987 at NAMRL (Naval Aerospace Medical Research Laboratory) where 3 handlers (plus one of the handlers' wives - the first human-human transmission) were infected with B-virus (cercopithecid herpesvirus 1, Herpesvirus simiae), two of which later died. From what I was told (from health care workers that cared for them at the time) it was quite a horrible way to die; herpes lesions covering almost their entire bodies.
While I'm sure you are not bit biased in your opinion (mac4all? really?) in my experience with quality wintel machines, and I've used many throughout the years, is that they provide much better value proposition, but "value proposition" is a fairly subjective measure. What is most important to me when I choose a machine is performance, performance and performance. I don't really care how pretty it is. For others, aesthetics are more important. You can get approximately the same build quality as Apple if you're willing to pay for it, but personally, I prefer to spend my $s on a faster processor, more cores, more memory, etc, than a prettier box.
I have to wonder why the other 2/3rds don't let their employees change. Is it because they don't want to? Or is it because the employees don't ask...
My guess is because many IT shop don't want to support both Mac and Windows workstations (that's certainly true of all the large shops I've worked in over the years). Not to mention companies can't afford to develop inhouse applications for two platforms. Another factor could be that companies don't want to pay the Apple tax when they can supply quality wintel workstations at much less expense.
IDC also reports PC sales in 2011 were down to only 4.2% growth, mostly due to the recession and the impact of netbook and tablet sales. The question is will Apple keep this share when PC sales rebound to the 10-11% expected growth in 2012-2015.
That'd be great, until you plow under your chickens while the GPS device is "recalculating".... Just what we need, a 13-ton, 300HP behemoth dragging a ground churning attachment running a muck while your sitting in the living room drinking tea.
It would be interesting to feed this thing a "Java for Dummies" or "Learn C# in 21 Days" book and see if it can start writing it's own software. Maybe even throw in some books on AI and see if it can generate it's own AI software and become self aware.
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Actually, if I were a developer interested in getting heavily involved in OS development (which I am), and had the time (which I don't), something like this would be appealing to me. Trying to get one's arms around Linux, much less to be able to obtain commit status is about near impossible for someone just starting out. HURD is much smaller and the mountain to climb much lower to reach the point of being able to contribute to the project. I also think it's premature to write off micro-kernel technology all together at this point. Massively Multi-core CPUs (as in 100's or 1000's of cores) may mitigate the performance hit that micro-kernels suffer from on today's hardware and may prove to be a better fit than the monolithic Linux kernel of today. I don't know that to be fact, though no doubt many here will point out how wrong that position is, but it makes sense to me instinctively. The point is, no knowledge gained is wasted knowledge and whether it leads to enhancements to Linux or boosts the viability of this technology, the endeavor is certainly worth exploring.
At the risk of being lambasted, I don't understand why everyone is kicking so hard at HURD. Sure, it's nowhere close to Linux in any respect, but then it never attracted the throngs of developers that Linux did. OS/X is proof that the idea of building on the mach kernel can result in a sound and performant OS. I for one salute those that have stuck with or picked up development of what many would consider a lost cause. Eschewing a technology because it's not popular does not engender innovation. Personally, I hope the HURD team begins to attract more developers and eventually begins to catch up with Linux because competition, even in the FOSS arena, is always a good thing.
What you pay for is access to the PKI system that is used to sign all code that runs on iOS devices. The $99 and your membership are what Apple uses to validate that your a legitimate developer. This is all part of the security model of the platform. You do want a secure platform don't you.....?
If that were true, then a $1 one-time charge to my credit card should be sufficient to verify my identity. Does charging me $99 (and forcing me to renew it annually) make this any more secure? After all, they've already hit me up for an overpriced Apple development machine. Maybe Steve just needs the extra $98 to purchase more ninja stars.
a $250,000 reward for new information that results in the identification, arrest and criminal conviction of such individual(s)
I don't suppose "MS, your security sucks" would qualify as new information, although that's "who's" ultimately responsible for the success of this botnet. Oh well.
Exactly. How does it work again? 1.) Get lowest bid proposal from committee insider. 2.) Make slightly lower bid to win contract. 3.) Win contract, and use money from contract to fund committee insider's re-election campaign. 4.) Rinse, repeat.
Close.
However, item 2 is not a requirement. A lot more goes into deciding who gets the contract than lowest bid (such as how much the contractor donates to the congressman's campaign).
Windows 95 also had a nicer migration experience from Windows 3.1. OS/2 Warp had a seperate Windows 3.1 mode, but switching back and forth was painful.
Wha? OS/2 Warp 4 could install directly on top of Windows 3.1 and Windows 3.1 applications ran seamlessly as if they were native OS/2 apps. What "switching back and forth" are you talking about? This didn't work for all Windows 3.1 applications (e.g. those with VxD drivers), but for most it was a no-brainer.
Oh yes. The single message queue issue. On this point I concede your argument. This was the result of IBM's (shortsighted IMHO) determination to not break compatibility with legacy (especially 16-bit) applications. This issue could have been easily resolved, at the expense of breaking compatibility, but IBM refused to deal with it (another of IBM's blunders).
When Microsoft released Windows 95 at nearly the same time, they did what apple does now. Show the product, show them how to use it, make it seem so much easier then before and what the other guys do. So when people got windows 95 they knew what it was and what it was going to do.
No, OS/2 was superior to Win95 in nearly every way at the time. The reason for OS/2 demise had little to nothing to do with technology, but a combination of the "somewhat questionable" tactics MS used to force PC vendors to pre-install Win95 on every box shipped, and the ineptness of IBM's marketing.
Actually, no, IBM still owns (and maintains) OS/2. Serenity is only an authorized re-seller, marketing it under the name eComStation. The only real enhancements made by Serenity have been in the form of additional device drivers and add-ons, mainly for the purpose of extending it's life.
eComStation is a "barely" warmed over (as in bugfixes only) release of OS/2 Warp 4 which IBM last shipped in 2001. Had IBM released the source code to someone who might actually continue development (even if not open-sourcing it) there's no telling what kind of OS it could have evolved into by now.
Mono and by extension .net is a piece of shit and the only people who care are shills and the people that have been convinced by the shills to believe the hype. Even MS is abandoning .shit for javascript/html5 in their next OS. Hahahahahahaha
Well done. I too would post as AC if all I had to say was an idiotic, embarrassingly stupid comment like that.
Whether or not you think Mono has value, granting a perpetual license to it to someone who will do something with it was the right thing to do. Allowing a particular technology to be continued rather than just sitting on it because they have no use for it should be applauded. I only wish IBM had done this with OS/2 many years ago. Who knows what would have become of it.
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Name one legitimate reason to want to jailbreak your phone now days.
I'll give you one (there are others I assure you). I'm a software developer. I paid good $$ for my iPhone and if I want to write my OWN programs to run on it and not pay Apple $99 a year for the privilige, then my only option is to jailbreak it so I can put MY software on MY phone.
you you seem kind of bitter and yet you're calling *me* bitter. what gives?
Probably because he wishes he lived in SF instead of his location. Typical foreigner.
That's the Zuckerberg tactic. Just add "on a social network" to any patent and your likely to run afoul of one of his.
You yunguns! Ever heard of 8080, z-80, 6800 or 6502?
Unless you're being pedantic (e.g. these were called microcomputers and not PCs) there was life before 16-bit.
Believe it or not, I'm someone who engages in a lot of "meaningless" sex.
Well aren't you Special (Rx) Specioprin Hydrochloride.
This happened back in 1987 at NAMRL (Naval Aerospace Medical Research Laboratory) where 3 handlers (plus one of the handlers' wives - the first human-human transmission) were infected with B-virus (cercopithecid herpesvirus 1, Herpesvirus simiae), two of which later died. From what I was told (from health care workers that cared for them at the time) it was quite a horrible way to die; herpes lesions covering almost their entire bodies.
http://www.brown.edu/Research/Primate/lpn26-3.html
While I'm sure you are not bit biased in your opinion (mac4all? really?) in my experience with quality wintel machines, and I've used many throughout the years, is that they provide much better value proposition, but "value proposition" is a fairly subjective measure. What is most important to me when I choose a machine is performance, performance and performance. I don't really care how pretty it is. For others, aesthetics are more important. You can get approximately the same build quality as Apple if you're willing to pay for it, but personally, I prefer to spend my $s on a faster processor, more cores, more memory, etc, than a prettier box.
I have to wonder why the other 2/3rds don't let their employees change. Is it because they don't want to? Or is it because the employees don't ask...
My guess is because many IT shop don't want to support both Mac and Windows workstations (that's certainly true of all the large shops I've worked in over the years). Not to mention companies can't afford to develop inhouse applications for two platforms. Another factor could be that companies don't want to pay the Apple tax when they can supply quality wintel workstations at much less expense.
IDC also reports PC sales in 2011 were down to only 4.2% growth, mostly due to the recession and the impact of netbook and tablet sales. The question is will Apple keep this share when PC sales rebound to the 10-11% expected growth in 2012-2015.
That'd be great, until you plow under your chickens while the GPS device is "recalculating".... Just what we need, a 13-ton, 300HP behemoth dragging a ground churning attachment running a muck while your sitting in the living room drinking tea.
I call BS. Everyone knows that the Giecko Gecko is the smartest reptile.
You religious wingnut! Everyone knows the Middle Class went extinct because of the the Bush Tax Cuts and Big Oil!
- A Student from San Francisco
There. FTFY.
It would be interesting to feed this thing a "Java for Dummies" or "Learn C# in 21 Days" book and see if it can start writing it's own software. Maybe even throw in some books on AI and see if it can generate it's own AI software and become self aware.