Back to the original poster's point: all that was required was one data sample. He gave one. But while we are gathering statistics... I have a 1994 Nissan Sentra LE. It does not resume to the original speed it was set at. Nor does my wife's 2004 Toyota Matrix, with an aftermarket cruise control system.
Portable tests are not necessarily what is necessary to make infectious disease detection accessible to the 3rd-world. The main factor is cost, and that is usually addressed with speed and volume. Ex: A molecular diagnostic device could run a 96-well plate of patient samples in about an hour. That's 96 patients per hour as compared with... 6 patients per hour with this device. Now, depending on what this thing costs it might make-up for it, but I highly doubt it.
That graph compares "original C code" to a Java version using jogl. Does the original C version of Quake use OpenGL or software rendering? If they are comparing software-rendered C to OpenGL accelerated Java, that's a silly comparison. Or am I mistaken about the original C version?
Well, no, I didn't quite say that, but hey, let's pretend I did for a moment...
You are right. It was RobotRunAmok's statement, not yours. I apologize.
Or do you not see how an open web and a closed cell phone are, in fact, different things, and that I might care about one but not give a shit about the other?
Yes, they are different things. I just think that promoting closed devices that intentionally buck standards (even defacto ones, that aren't as open as some may like) is a bad idea - even if one doesn't like that particular standard.
There is a command in the PDF language that says "execute the following command-line!" I thought having that ability in the scripting language was dumb. But it's actually available in the document description format? What possible purpose could that server? I don't want a message box added, or a security setting -- just remove that command entirely from the implementation!
How did this come about when they were designing the PDF format?
"Let's make it support bold, italic, underline, and execute." One of the above does not fit with the others.
But you are the one who said that Flash is bad because it is closed, but simultaneously said it was okay for Apple to do the same thing. You erected the strawman, he just pointed it out.
based on a patented codec, wrapped up with a rather annoying DRM layer.
Flash != Flash video.
I agree with you, for Flash video. But for applications, or animated vectorized games, Flash is the best option. Until that changes (maybe it will with HTML5, but I doubt it), Flash has a place on the web.
I agree with your suggestion: ask Toyota owners. Go even further than that. Take a survey.
Compare the number of Toyotas that have failed because of the mysterious acceleration problem, to the number of cars that have failed because of problems with the human driver.
I think the problem is that the hard part is finding the sequence. Once you know the sequence, there's tons of systems in place that can detect it. It's like spending a million dollars to find a number.
For those who don't know, Miles O'Brien is also the name of the transporter chief on ST:TNG and Chief of Operations for DS9. I clicked the link really hoping that they paid the actor to narrate this. Oh well.:-(
Gah! The original poster was pointing out that the terms left and right are meaningless. And they two of you respond by arguing what left and right mean? *whoosh*
In most cases if you have access to the local network all systems are vulnerable anyway.
True: "if you have physical access then all systems are vulnerable" -- definitely. Just remove the hard drive, plug-in a keyboard sniffer, etc. Maybe true: "if you can login to the box then all systems are vulnerable" -- yeah, most OSs probably have some local root exploit. Stretch: "if you have access to the local network all systems are vulnerable" -- most desktop boxes don't even have any server ports open. Hacking them from the LAN is unlikely.
I think you misread his stance. This isn't like saying <cue italian mafia accent> "Hey, if you sell our competitors products, you *might* find some trouble..." His point is simply that in today's age, all software encroaches on some patent somewhere. He is right about that. Should it scare people away from Theora? Probably not. Theora is still going to be less patent-encumbered than h.264, but it probably isn't 100%.
You say that Steam requires and internet connection. But then your example is a rare edge-case involving a half-way downloaded patch. It sounds like a bug, and it sounds annoying, but it isn't the same as saying that steam requires an internet connection.
I also didn't know we were talking about a royalty. I said "work for hire" and you said "subsidiary" so there's no royalty involved. The scenario was where the patent holder created a subsidiary manufacturing company to make the products for the patent holder to sell. There was no royalty involved.
It sounds like you are talking about about a separate company who was paying a royalty to the patent holder. Either way, I'm unclear where anyone said that the patent holder could not sue in this case.
Since this is Slashdot, I'm assuming "our country" is the United States. If not, I apologize.
The only example which I found on a Google search was one from today, when Fidel Castro praised the new US Health care plan. I hardly would call that "praising the direction our country is heading" - are there any other examples. Everything else I found was generally negative.
Ok, now what if I'm a corporation, and the person turning the crank works for a subsidiary?
I don't know how subsidiary corporations work. What makes sense in this case? In your subcontracting/manufacturing scenario, then the original work for hire logic should apply. The company paying them to create the product owns the product. Hiring them to create something for you then suing them for making it would not make sense anyway.
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I think the sample was "of people who bought the cars in question" so that explanation would not apply here.
Back to the original poster's point: all that was required was one data sample. He gave one. But while we are gathering statistics... I have a 1994 Nissan Sentra LE. It does not resume to the original speed it was set at. Nor does my wife's 2004 Toyota Matrix, with an aftermarket cruise control system.
Portable tests are not necessarily what is necessary to make infectious disease detection accessible to the 3rd-world. The main factor is cost, and that is usually addressed with speed and volume. Ex: A molecular diagnostic device could run a 96-well plate of patient samples in about an hour. That's 96 patients per hour as compared with... 6 patients per hour with this device. Now, depending on what this thing costs it might make-up for it, but I highly doubt it.
Another lesson here: Don't use IE on a public computer. It's the only browser that saves HTTPS sessions to disk.
That graph compares "original C code" to a Java version using jogl. Does the original C version of Quake use OpenGL or software rendering? If they are comparing software-rendered C to OpenGL accelerated Java, that's a silly comparison. Or am I mistaken about the original C version?
Well, no, I didn't quite say that, but hey, let's pretend I did for a moment...
You are right. It was RobotRunAmok's statement, not yours. I apologize.
Or do you not see how an open web and a closed cell phone are, in fact, different things, and that I might care about one but not give a shit about the other?
Yes, they are different things. I just think that promoting closed devices that intentionally buck standards (even defacto ones, that aren't as open as some may like) is a bad idea - even if one doesn't like that particular standard.
There is a command in the PDF language that says "execute the following command-line!" I thought having that ability in the scripting language was dumb. But it's actually available in the document description format? What possible purpose could that server? I don't want a message box added, or a security setting -- just remove that command entirely from the implementation!
How did this come about when they were designing the PDF format?
"Let's make it support bold, italic, underline, and execute."
One of the above does not fit with the others.
But you are the one who said that Flash is bad because it is closed, but simultaneously said it was okay for Apple to do the same thing. You erected the strawman, he just pointed it out.
based on a patented codec, wrapped up with a rather annoying DRM layer.
Flash != Flash video.
I agree with you, for Flash video. But for applications, or animated vectorized games, Flash is the best option. Until that changes (maybe it will with HTML5, but I doubt it), Flash has a place on the web.
I agree with your suggestion: ask Toyota owners. Go even further than that. Take a survey.
Compare the number of Toyotas that have failed because of the mysterious acceleration problem, to the number of cars that have failed because of problems with the human driver.
This is a good thing.
Since you've been modded to "Interesting" I think it is fair to ask "Why?"
I think the problem is that the hard part is finding the sequence. Once you know the sequence, there's tons of systems in place that can detect it. It's like spending a million dollars to find a number.
Next time, we should elect a constitutional law professor to be president. Oh...wait...
For those who don't know, Miles O'Brien is also the name of the transporter chief on ST:TNG and Chief of Operations for DS9. I clicked the link really hoping that they paid the actor to narrate this. Oh well. :-(
Gah! The original poster was pointing out that the terms left and right are meaningless. And they two of you respond by arguing what left and right mean? *whoosh*
Maybe my political analysis toolset needs to move out of the 20th century....
Indeed. You have shown yet another example of why "right" and "left" are meaningless ways to compare philosophies.
In most cases if you have access to the local network all systems are vulnerable anyway.
True: "if you have physical access then all systems are vulnerable" -- definitely. Just remove the hard drive, plug-in a keyboard sniffer, etc.
Maybe true: "if you can login to the box then all systems are vulnerable" -- yeah, most OSs probably have some local root exploit.
Stretch: "if you have access to the local network all systems are vulnerable" -- most desktop boxes don't even have any server ports open. Hacking them from the LAN is unlikely.
I think you misread his stance. This isn't like saying <cue italian mafia accent> "Hey, if you sell our competitors products, you *might* find some trouble..." His point is simply that in today's age, all software encroaches on some patent somewhere. He is right about that. Should it scare people away from Theora? Probably not. Theora is still going to be less patent-encumbered than h.264, but it probably isn't 100%.
I still don't get it.
You say that Steam requires and internet connection. But then your example is a rare edge-case involving a half-way downloaded patch. It sounds like a bug, and it sounds annoying, but it isn't the same as saying that steam requires an internet connection.
I'll do good things with it. Honestly. :-)
When did I say that someone could not sue?
I also didn't know we were talking about a royalty. I said "work for hire" and you said "subsidiary" so there's no royalty involved. The scenario was where the patent holder created a subsidiary manufacturing company to make the products for the patent holder to sell. There was no royalty involved.
It sounds like you are talking about about a separate company who was paying a royalty to the patent holder. Either way, I'm unclear where anyone said that the patent holder could not sue in this case.
Could you clarify?
Since this is Slashdot, I'm assuming "our country" is the United States. If not, I apologize.
The only example which I found on a Google search was one from today, when Fidel Castro praised the new US Health care plan. I hardly would call that "praising the direction our country is heading" - are there any other examples. Everything else I found was generally negative.
Ok, now what if I'm a corporation, and the person turning the crank works for a subsidiary?
I don't know how subsidiary corporations work. What makes sense in this case? In your subcontracting/manufacturing scenario, then the original work for hire logic should apply. The company paying them to create the product owns the product. Hiring them to create something for you then suing them for making it would not make sense anyway.