Ask Slashdot is for asking people's opinions on things, not solving the problems you're too cheap to pay someone to solve for you.
What in $foo's name has (not) wanting to pay someone got to do with this? There are lots of people who will help for free (i.e. no beer, no cheese, no peanuts, nada, nothing in return). This obsession with money will be our undoing, if we stick to it.
I do agree that Ask Slashdot may not be the right place to ask for tech support, but at least we could point those who do in the right direction.
I doubt that very much. They aren't part of the program, after all. They are simply data handled by the program.
Haha, old philosophical paradox. What is code? What is data? Aren't image files pieces of code instructing the image renderer (viewed as a virtual machine) how to plot pixels? Or the other way around: isn't 'httpd' a data file which (among lots of others) is passed to the CPU to process according to the program stored in its microcode?
...nothing else grants you permission to modify or distribute the Program or its derivative works.
Pesky little words can make a lot of difference. Doesn't editing Makefiles and/or configuration scripts to make the software work in your environment qualify as 'modifying', meaning you have to accept the license? Doesn't editing scripts which are to be run by the client qualify as both 'modifying and distributing', meaning you have to accept the license?
Well, the point would be moot anyways, as client-side javascript code needs to be published for it to work...
Except that it doesn't need to be human readable. There are quite a number of sites out there that send their javascript 'encrypted', to be decrypted into a popup window or an iframe for which the user 'supposedly' cannot view the source. Breaking the encryption, although trivial, may very well be in violation of the DMCA.
... Pythonesque urge to say "No, it isn't."......and I always thought that pythons would try to strangle their victims instead of arguing with them. Now at least I have one counter-example.
BLADDAMMM!!!... What happened?? ... Well, it seems that City Council has axed the monorail project! ... Well dammit! Next time tell them not to do that over my back yard!
At first read, I was pretty sure the story title referred to G.W.Bush's speech for next year.
Anyway, here's the summary either way:
The world is just a great big onion & pain & fear are the spices that make you cry...
Anyone know how to make a Perl haiku out of that song? One that creates a spy movie plot that's actually less saddening than reality? Better still, lets hack a transformation script that takes Larry Wall's article and turns it into a candidate speech for Bush to (try to) recite? All the basic ingredients are there. Dangerous mushrooms, references to Evil Contries, Mugshots with stats (just apply s/spy/terrorist/g ). I've got a feeling the resemblance between Larry's article and the final version of Bush's speech will be amazing...
Which is more bloated? To be clear, it is not the way a page is rendered by a browser I'm referring to, but rather the amount and structure of the transmitted data.
umm.. you need a light version? make a stylesheet for it.
You want a light version of a Rembrandt painting? Just take the painting, glue a sheet of translucent grid paper on it and mark the boxes that have dark colors...
To me, light always meant: no bloat, no friggin' colors, borders, font changes, separator lines, you name it. Just using a stylesheet to 'hide' those things in the original HTML misses the point entirely, I think.
Think of banks: they started putting buttons under the counter or in a discreet location. Now a holdup person comes in and the first thing they want is everyone's hands in the air.
Foot pedals, anyone?
The only question here is how badly you want to fix the problem. I'm sure there will always be someone smart enough to come up with a solution.
What worries me more is that this will inevitably turn into an 'arms race' in which innocent bystanders (cf. airline passengers) will suffer more and more discomfort.
... Sony: How are you gentlemen !! Sony: All your bass are belong to us. Sony: You are on the way to litigation. Tim: What you say !! Sony: You have no chance to survive make your time. Sony: HA HA HA HA.... Tim: Copy every song !! Tim: You know what you doing. Tim: Use song. Tim: For fair use.
Erhm, since the PP was modded below see-level, let me make myself clear: I'm all FOR the elimination of WMD as specified above, and AGAINST the destruction of cats.
This is probably as old as wildcard DNS in general, and browsers sticking '.com'/'.net'/'.org' (in that order, doesn't it look familliar?) onto unresolvable names, in particular.
I think it is a moronic way of capitalizing on peoples' typing mistakes.
I remember a time when random single letters and many two and three-letter words were ignored (called 'stop words' I believe). Must have changed when hordes of nerdy kernel-hacking basement-living C programmers stampeded in protest, I guess...
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Ask Slashdot is for asking people's opinions on things, not solving the problems you're too cheap to pay someone to solve for you.
What in $foo's name has (not) wanting to pay someone got to do with this? There are lots of people who will help for free (i.e. no beer, no cheese, no peanuts, nada, nothing in return). This obsession with money will be our undoing, if we stick to it.
I do agree that Ask Slashdot may not be the right place to ask for tech support, but at least we could point those who do in the right direction.
I doubt that very much. They aren't part of the program, after all. They are simply data handled by the program.
Haha, old philosophical paradox. What is code? What is data?
Aren't image files pieces of code instructing the image renderer (viewed as a virtual machine) how to plot pixels? Or the other way around: isn't 'httpd' a data file which (among lots of others) is passed to the CPU to process according to the program stored in its microcode?
...nothing else grants you permission to modify or
distribute the Program or its derivative works.
Pesky little words can make a lot of difference.
Doesn't editing Makefiles and/or configuration scripts to make the software work in your environment qualify as 'modifying', meaning you have to accept the license? Doesn't editing scripts which are to be run by the client qualify as both 'modifying and distributing', meaning you have to accept the license?
Well, the point would be moot anyways, as client-side javascript code needs to be published for it to work...
Except that it doesn't need to be human readable. There are quite a number of sites out there that send their javascript 'encrypted', to be decrypted into a popup window or an iframe for which the user 'supposedly' cannot view the source. Breaking the encryption, although trivial, may very well be in violation of the DMCA.
argueing... duh.
Seems I still need to be on the lookout for that elusive spell-checkered garter snake... It must be around here somewhere...
... Pythonesque urge to say "No, it isn't." ... ...and I always thought that pythons would try to strangle their victims instead of arguing with them. Now at least I have one counter-example.
... fully half the posts on this thread.
Well, I'd say at least most of a quarter of the posts.
BLADDAMMM!!! ... What happened?? ... Well, it seems that City Council has axed the monorail project! ... Well dammit! Next time tell them not to do that over my back yard!
In Korea, only old people welcome new overlords.
(You figure out which of the 2 Koreas this applies to).
... or was it onion?
...
At first read, I was pretty sure the story title referred to G.W.Bush's speech for next year.
Anyway, here's the summary either way:
The world is just a great big onion
& pain & fear are the spices that make you cry
Anyone know how to make a Perl haiku out of that song? One that creates a spy movie plot that's actually less saddening than reality?
Better still, lets hack a transformation script that takes Larry Wall's article and turns it into a candidate speech for Bush to (try to) recite?
All the basic ingredients are there. Dangerous mushrooms, references to Evil Contries, Mugshots with stats (just apply s/spy/terrorist/g ). I've got a feeling the resemblance between Larry's article and the final version of Bush's speech will be amazing...
What I mean to say: what if:is turned into:..plus the contents of the stylesheet?
Which is more bloated?
To be clear, it is not the way a page is rendered by a browser I'm referring to, but rather the amount and structure of the transmitted data.
...webpage bandwidth is pretty irrelevant in 2005.
Please speak for yourself, d.de. Or are you going to refer 'us' to the 'US centric' section of the Slashdot FAQ?
There are literally millions of people using the 'net over slow dialups, multiparty daisy-chained wireless links, PDA/phones not using GPRS, etc.
umm.. you need a light version? make a stylesheet for it.
You want a light version of a Rembrandt painting? Just take the painting, glue a sheet of translucent grid paper on it and mark the boxes that have dark colors...
To me, light always meant: no bloat, no friggin' colors, borders, font changes, separator lines, you name it.
Just using a stylesheet to 'hide' those things in the original HTML misses the point entirely, I think.
Think of banks: they started putting buttons under the counter or in a discreet location. Now a holdup person comes in and the first thing they want is everyone's hands in the air.
Foot pedals, anyone?
The only question here is how badly you want to fix the problem. I'm sure there will always be someone smart enough to come up with a solution.
What worries me more is that this will inevitably turn into an 'arms race' in which innocent bystanders (cf. airline passengers) will suffer more and more discomfort.
... ....
Sony: How are you gentlemen !!
Sony: All your bass are belong to us.
Sony: You are on the way to litigation.
Tim: What you say !!
Sony: You have no chance to survive make your time.
Sony: HA HA HA HA
Tim: Copy every song !!
Tim: You know what you doing.
Tim: Use song.
Tim: For fair use.
... that's about the limit of the Java-ness of it.
Well, soon a lot of Javanese will be using it...(as well as people from other parts of Indonesia).
JDS the Phoenix?
Or maybe the Garuda...
tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh'a'?
OVS word order is very rare indeed (on Earth, that is).
Erhm, since the PP was modded below see-level, let me make myself clear: I'm all FOR the elimination of WMD as specified above, and AGAINST the destruction of cats.
Well, if by WMD you mean Wanton Mammal Destruction, I can only agree with you wholeheartedly.
As sold in Africa or in Europe?
Hmmm, I wonder what all this has to do with an openvanilla bug report...
This is probably as old as wildcard DNS in general, and browsers sticking '.com'/'.net'/'.org' (in that order, doesn't it look familliar?) onto unresolvable names, in particular.
I think it is a moronic way of capitalizing on peoples' typing mistakes.
Oh, those lovely ja.net days...
I remember a time when random single letters and many two and three-letter words were ignored (called 'stop words' I believe). Must have changed when hordes of nerdy kernel-hacking basement-living C programmers stampeded in protest, I guess...