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Ladies and Gentlemen Allow Me to Introduce the Cat Car

Kelmar writes "CNN is running a story about how a German inventor has found a way to power a car using dead cats. Yes you read that right. According to the inventor he can produce the biodiesel fuel at the cost of about $0.30 (US) per liter. Needless to say many animal rights activists are upset by this development, and some are saying that it is illegal to use animals for this purpose in Germany."

614 comments

  1. Other pet-based products by gbulmash · · Score: 5, Funny
    How about fuel from dog farts? I know a Labrador Retriever who could probably fuel a moped with his daily output.

    - Greg

    1. Re:Other pet-based products by mrjb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Best of all, you won't need to bring the dog, cause he's only needed to take the blame :)

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    2. Re:Other pet-based products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      time for version 2 of the book 99 things to do with a dead cat.

    3. Re:Other pet-based products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      SOYLENT GAS IS PEOPLE! IS PEOPLE! which would not surprise me, considering the source.

    4. Re:Other pet-based products by 3chuck3 · · Score: 1

      Yes, Just remember Soylet Green is People. First it will be ex-pets as vehicle fuel, in the end it will be ex-freinds as People Fuel.

    5. Re:Other pet-based products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I want to read stories that were originally posted on Fark, I'll go to Fark.

    6. Re:Other pet-based products by russh347 · · Score: 1

      If petroleum is dino-juice, what do we call this stuff?

    7. Re:Other pet-based products by core+plexus · · Score: 1

      Here's an article describing the use of fish products to power Alaska processors

    8. Re:Other pet-based products by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 1

      I loved the Soylent Cola ad on Futurama, "Made from the best stuff on earth, people!" In another episode Fry asks how it tastes "It varies from person to person".......

  2. Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    A spokesman for Bild told Reuters the story was meant to show that cat remains could "in theory" be used to make fuel with Koch's patented method.

    http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?t ype=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-09-14T160628Z_01_ MAR457954_RTRIDST_0_OUKOE-UK-GERMANY-CATS.XML

    1. Re:Inventor misquoted? by jcr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Wasn't there a story on /. about a year or so ago about running all manner of organic waste through a refinery? IIRC, it's possible to generate everything from axle grease to alcohol by cooking up turkey carcasses.

      -jcr

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    2. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Knome_fan · · Score: 5, Informative

      This doesn't come as a surprise for anyone living in Germany.

      The Bild is Germanys largest tabloid and is well known for not always reporting overly accurate, to put it mildly.

      That said, this guy seems to be making quite some waves here in Germany. At least I remember seeing him on TV lately, talking about his invention.

      And if his claims are true, this really could prove to be a very useful invention, especially with the recent develpements in oil prices.

    3. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Inventor himself said the whole Bild story is utter bullshit.

      The Lady from the Animal Rights Commitee said: This doesn't concerns us, even if it is true, because it would use dead cats. Dead cats are not protected by animal rights.

    4. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Eagle-Y · · Score: 0
      A spokesman for Bild told Reuters the story was meant to show that cat remains could "in theory" be used to make fuel with Koch's patented method.

      Not only cat remains but any living thing including humans. Interesting

    5. Re:Inventor misquoted? by lga · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are thinking of Changing World Technologies. They built their first plant next to a chicken farm so that they can run it on dead chicken leftovers.

    6. Re:Inventor misquoted? by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      >>...Not only cat remains but any living thing including humans. Interesting
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      I still prefer they'd use it for Soylent Green.

    7. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well why not
      on a yearly basis i see countles animals being burned becauze of some disease scare.
      the countless birds now in asia and russia

      pigs, cows, sheep ect burned in heaps

    8. Re:Inventor misquoted? by m4dm4n · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slashdot trolls and lawyers. Now there is a good machine to own.

    9. Re:Inventor misquoted? by tr_x_data · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes right. And the mother of all watchblogs already has their article on it, too: http://www.bildblog.de/?p=791 (german language) ;) David

    10. Re:Inventor misquoted? by black6host · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not to mention the inroads the internet has been making into areas not yet connected. More net users, more porn, more dead kittens :)

    11. Re:Inventor misquoted? by slashdotnickname · · Score: 1

      Although good in theory, the use of organic remains has no practical mass application. The cost of feeding animals long enough to provide a decent organic mass would be far more than fossil fuels or even nuclear energy. Plus, at a mass scale, rotting organic material would be a major health threat... not to mention that in accidents, serious injuries would be compounded if the victims were covered in this "fuel"...

    12. Re:Inventor misquoted? by jawtheshark · · Score: 5, Funny
      dead chicken leftovers

      Now I'm curious what a "live chicken leftover" looks like ;-)

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    13. Re:Inventor misquoted? by bladesjester · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just as long as you don't ask to see the undead chicken leftovers.... *shudders*

      damned brain-eatin' birds

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    14. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Bild is Germanys largest tabloid and is well known for not always reporting overly accurate, to put it mildly.

      I quote: "Flying Saucer Shot Down Over Russia"
      Yes, what's probably the most popular publication in Germany is seriously trying to tell us that the Russians have taken down an UFO.

      The BILD's "articles" (which usually take up about as much space as the headlines) are varying in quality between grotesque oversimplification, blunt populism, sheer nonsense lacking any kind of relation to the real world and a mix of the above.
      I'd recommend only using it as toilet paper but that'd probably make your ass dumber.


      The scary thing about the BILD is that many people are actually relying on it for their daily news. I don't even want to think about how the upcoming elections will be affected by people making their decisions based on the bullshit written in this rag. (Note: I don't want to insult actual bovine excrements by comparing them to BILD articles.)

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    15. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if his claims are true, this really could prove to be a very useful invention, especially with the recent develpements in oil prices.

      And that's why they sabotage it by claiming that cats are necessary for this.

      We will continue to pay much, MUCH money or the hell will freeze over.

    16. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you never step outside. Lots of dangerous rotting going on out there considering it is a fact of life!

    17. Re:Inventor misquoted? by wertarbyte · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just call it Soylent Fuel.

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    18. Re:Inventor misquoted? by nihaopaul · · Score: 0

      all i can say is that is one nasty pussy he got

    19. Re:Inventor misquoted? by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 1

      also possible: awkward and/or embarrassing moments, rifts between family members, bad memories of alcoholic uncles.

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    20. Re:Inventor misquoted? by indifferent+children · · Score: 5, Funny

      McNuggets

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    21. Re:Inventor misquoted? by MPHellwig · · Score: 1

      "got"? I think you ment "had" :-)

    22. Re:Inventor misquoted? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      As usual Slashdot prints the bogus sensationalist version. The whole "cat" angle was made up by a reporter.
      Bild on Tuesday wrote a headline: "German inventor can turn cats into fuel -- for a tank he needs 20 pussies." The paper on Wednesday followed up with a story entitled: "Can you really make fuel out of cats?"

      A spokesman for Bild told Reuters the story was meant to show that cat remains could "in theory" be used to make fuel with Koch's patented method.

      The author of the story said Koch had never told him directly that he had used dead cats as the story implied.

    23. Re:Inventor misquoted? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Although good in theory, the use of organic remains has no practical mass application.

      Next you'll be trying to tell us that The Matrix couldn't be powered by the body heat of pod humans.

    24. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Skye16 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wonder if they'd let you use human remains for this?

      I know I certainly wouldn't mind (my own) remains being used. Better than being buried and eaten by worms.

    25. Re:Inventor misquoted? by nihaopaul · · Score: 1

      yep your right:

      now should read "he had gotten a rotten pussy."

    26. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't allowed to use human remains for this in Germany. There is a law stating the human remains must be buried or burnt or given to the sea orderly. If you bury your grandmum in your backyard or use her to fuel your Porsche you are acting against the law.

      Furthermore according to the Constitution even dead humans have still dignity and must not be mistreated.

      Same anonymous Coward as above.

    27. Re:Inventor misquoted? by jcr · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the link. I'd like to invest in that technology. Too bad they're not publicly traded yet...

      -jcr

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    28. Re:Inventor misquoted? by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1

      They're white, rounded, kind of oblong, maybe two inches? three? on their long axis... if you keep them warm long enough they'll hatch.

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    29. Re:Inventor misquoted? by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      not to mention that in accidents, serious injuries would be compounded if the victims were covered in this "fuel"...

      Doesn't gasoline and diesel fuel compount serious injuries if victims are covered with it?

    30. Re:Inventor misquoted? by drsquare · · Score: 0

      Where can I find some of these rectangular eggs?

    31. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Ginnungagap42 · · Score: 1

      The Bild is Germanys largest tabloid and is well known for not always reporting overly accurate, to put it mildly.

      So that would be kind of like CNN here in the States?

    32. Re:Inventor misquoted? by JWW · · Score: 1

      The author of the story said Koch had never told him directly that he had used dead cats as the story implied.

      Ok, but it would be cool if he did.

      Can you tell I'm not a cat person??

    33. Re:Inventor misquoted? by bedroll · · Score: 1

      Probably something like Mike the Headless Chicken.

    34. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Skye16 · · Score: 1

      I wonder if that's the same in the U.S.? I'd also be curious to see what other countries have on the books. I know they use human cadavers for scientific research. The then-alive people had to sign some paper work and such, but for the most part, they were able to say "I want my body to be used for _________ purpose". I wonder if we could do the same, and have our own bodies turned into fuel?

      This is a bit different than turning your family members into fuel. While I think it's ridiculously silly that people are so intent on being buried in a certain manner, I also think it's their right to be ridiculously silly. If my grandmum didn't want to be made into biofuel, and instead wanted to be buried, or cremated, then I wouldn't dream of doing anything differently.

      But I know for me, personally, I'd rather be turned into something useful. If not biofuel, then why not something like...I donno. Food for lions or tigers or bears at a zoo? I'd rather do that than be food for worms and bugs. I guess it just feels more dignified to be consumed by a mammal than it does a worm. :O

    35. Re:Inventor misquoted? by budgenator · · Score: 1

      The plant isn't profitable right now, they built in in the expectation that the FDA would decide that's not OK to feed your natuarly herbovour cattle animal guts; instead they decided it's not OK to feed cows, cows.

      I rather suspect that the plants that start to profit when oil hits $70.00 a barrel(alot of different technics break-even right arround there), is the real reason oil isn't $70.00 a barrel. Normaly I'm against big government and taxes, but I think a tax to bring out-of-ground oil up to $70.00 a barrel might prove to be cheaper in the long run.

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    36. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why the guy is taking legal action against BILD.

    37. Re:Inventor misquoted? by armb · · Score: 1

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/cats_fuel_ diesel/ says this guy is saying basically the same thing - in principle, any organic waste would work, including dead cats, but he isn't actually using cats.

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    38. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Skye16 · · Score: 1

      Hell, I am, and I still think it'd be cool.

      Dead cats. Dead cats. Cats die every day. Why throw them in a land fill, or bury them in your back yard? Sure, the worms may be pissed, but I think they can relax. How many cities employ workers to go around scraping cats or dogs or wildlife up off the road? Throw those fuckers in a biodiesel stew and get some use out of them. Sure, the carrion eaters may not be too pleased with us stealing their free meals, but probably less than a bunch of baby seals because of an oil spill.

      Not that enough biodiesel could be made that it would stop oil production, but hey, every little bit counts.

    39. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Johnny+Mozzarella · · Score: 1

      feathers

    40. Re:Inventor misquoted? by adamfranco · · Score: 1

      More net users, more porn, more dead kittens :)

      If God has to kill a kitten every time, then He must do what He has to do; just so long as there are still a few left over for bonsai. ;-)

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    41. Re:Inventor misquoted? by arkanes · · Score: 1
      a) Growing animals just to kill them so we can render them into biodiesel would be dumb. Using alread-dead remains that are otherwise cremated or buried to make buidiesel is smart.

      b) "Mass scale rotting organic material"... like graveyards and landfills and slaughterhouses?

      c) There's no reason to believe this stuff would make you any sicker than regular petroleum if it gets on you, and some reason to believe it'd actually be safer.

    42. Re:Inventor misquoted? by blake3737 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Calista Flockhart

    43. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 1

      Maybe there'll be a convergence: people will return to using horses for short-range transport, and we'll use the dung to fuel our longer-range transport. We could make downtown a 'horse-friendly' environment by banning cars and installing watering troughs every couple of blocks.

      Of course, here in the US, we'll wind up with people driving ten-horse hitches to pull their SUWs (sports utility wagons), but at least horses can be counted on to not drift across three lanes of traffic while the driver yaks on a cell phone...

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    44. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if his claims are true, this really could prove to be a very useful invention, especially with the recent develpements in oil prices.

      No, it won't.

      If you want to make biodiesel efficiently, it's always going to be more efficient to grow it from plants directly -- just as it's more efficient to get your energy from eating plants, instead of eating animals that ate plants.

      And we've known how to run cars on vegetable oil for 100 years. It's just that most people don't, for some reason. /me drives off to work in his biodiesel car

    45. Re:Inventor misquoted? by josh_miller · · Score: 1

      Chicken poop.

    46. Re:Inventor misquoted? by uradu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      To our US friends, think of it as a weird mix of National Inquirer and Fox News, plus some obligatory daily nudity. There's nothing like a nude lady on the front page to pull you into articles on politics. One of my favorite "populist" headlines still has to be the one when the latest pope was established: "We are pope!" (since he's from Germany)

    47. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like Fox News.

    48. Re:Inventor misquoted? by iamacat · · Score: 1

      Food for lions or tigers or bears at a zoo?

      I am not visiting that zoo after that! A bit optimistic I know, but do you really want animals to get this kind of training? Worms and bugs are not likely to bite off other people's arms. Personally, I want my body to completely disappear so that people don't waste any time on it.

    49. Re:Inventor misquoted? by midicase · · Score: 1

      The scary thing about the BILD is that many people are actually relying on it for their daily news

      You mean not like /.?

    50. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Lemming+Mark · · Score: 1

      Let me guess, every third article is a dupe of something published elsewhere in the paper, right? ;-)

    51. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Skye16 · · Score: 1

      Well, grind it up in a grinder, first! Make me into burger.

      I honestly don't care what happens to my body, but I do NOT want people to make some sort of sentimental fuss over it. If they can get some use out of it, go for it, and if not, toss me in a burlap sack and throw the sack in a pit (that way it degrades quicker). Bury me upside down, inside out, twisted into a pretzel - whatever. I just don't care. But don't try to preserve my body or anything like that. The quicker I rot, or am consumed in some way, the happier I'll be. The circle of life and all that jazz.

    52. Re:Inventor misquoted? by ShibbyShagDeluxe · · Score: 1

      hmm, I wonder if Bush will go to war in the Persian Gulf, at least he'll think that's where Persian Cats come from...

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    53. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Fordiman · · Score: 1

      Wait, so dead chickens is alright, but dead cats aren't?

      Hm. Same as food, I suppose.

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    54. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's like Fox News?

    55. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Certainly if it catches fire..!

    56. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called GERMAN SAUSAGE!

    57. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok, you win the "I just shot coffee out of my nose funny award"

      which is only slightly better than the "Montgomery Burns Award for Excellence in the Field of Excellence"

    58. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      turkeys aren't as cute as cats, so there would be less of an outcry. otoh, compare this new automotive fuel to the fact that they've already powered trains with mummified humans

    59. Re:Inventor misquoted? by jaredcat · · Score: 1

      An additional follow-up story on CNN.com shows that the inventory "never dreamed" of using dead cats in his fuel mixture, though the occasional toad may have jumped in.

      It seems that the German newspaper made up the whole cat idea without ever consulting the inventory.

    60. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      More like something pretending to be a dupe, but claiming something else - and still getting it wrong.

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    61. Re:Inventor misquoted? by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      Das Bild is not fit for die bottom of die birdcage!

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    62. Re:Inventor misquoted? by lgw · · Score: 1

      I think the real point here, as with so many alternative fuel ideas, it that it doesn't scale. Using existing remains for biodeisel: great idea, 1% of the world's oil consumption.

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    63. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations, you win the comment section for this story.

    64. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Specks · · Score: 1

      Apparently the process this company uses is different from heat conversion which is what Changing World Technologies uses. Alphakat uses heat but in this case its mixed with a catalyst and the chemicals is put under a low vacume. Not exactly how oil is made by nature but definately different from Changing World Tech's method.

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    65. Re:Inventor misquoted? by E8086 · · Score: 1

      "instead they decided it's OK to feed cows, cows."

      thanks to that I've never tasted aged beef made from free range grass fed cow, only the non aged from non free range grain and cow fed cow.

      Cats are useless, they just sit there, at least dogs will return some of the attention you give it and you can train some types to be hunting dogs. The animal shelters are over crowded and have no choice but to put some to sleep,(they're not going to let them starve) possibly thosands a day across the country/world. It would be nice if we could get something useful out it.

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    66. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None of this is new, bio-diesal has been able to be produced from organic waste for some time now, but yes, he has denied feeding it cats.

      As for the ethical argument, there is no difference in using dead cats or gas, since gas is just dead dinosaurs, won't anyone think of the dinosaurs!!

    67. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      company was called new world technologies and the made light crude from everything from turkey guts to old tires

    68. Re:Inventor misquoted? by dettifoss · · Score: 1

      So what's your point? That Germany is just like every other country in the world?

    69. Re:Inventor misquoted? by budgenator · · Score: 1

      I had an uncle that beef farmed back a while before anyone thought about hormone accelerated, antibotic augmented "certified angus" meat eating abominations that passes for beef nowadays; he actualy wept when he sent one off to be slaughtered, but it was some seriously good eating meat.

      With blood fed calves, and meat feed cattle, we might as well be eating cats. I could never figure out why women like cats so much, seems like if you took every masculine charecteristic that women hate, multiply it by 10 would'd have a cat's personality.

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    70. Re:Inventor misquoted? by iamacat · · Score: 1

      Well, grind it up in a grinder, first! Make me into burger.

      All right, Skye! I really don't want to hang around with customers of that McDonald afterwards, except in survival horror games, when I have a nice 3-foot metal pipe. I still think bugs and worms are a better idea :-) Although the best use of a human body is probably transplants and medical research or even education. You know, if I don't need something why not give other people a shot at it...

    71. Re:Inventor misquoted? by E8086 · · Score: 1

      "but it was some seriously good eating meat." now I'm getting hungry "certified angus" I wonder how long until everyone else realizes that "angus" is only refering to the color of the cow's hide. It has nothing to do with the taste or quality of the meat, only that it's over 50% black, think Gateway boxes only a little more black.

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    72. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Kelmar · · Score: 1

      Indeed he was. Something I just found out as a friend of mine pointed out. Now that I look at the CNN story its vastly different from what it was when I first submitted it here on /.

      Even still though, why would anyone want to do something like this? I can't really imagen someone sitting down and going "hm, you know, I think I can get cheaper biodiesel by burning dead cats."

    73. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IT'S CAAAATTSS!!! Soylent Fuel Is CAAATTS!!!!!!!

    74. Re:Inventor misquoted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So wait, are you saying you like BILD?

    75. Re:Inventor misquoted? by thelonestranger · · Score: 1

      If they could use cat / turkey carcases then surely in theory they could use human bodies as well........Aarrrgghhhh "Soylent Unleaded Green Is People!!!"

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    76. Re:Inventor misquoted? by thelonestranger · · Score: 1

      KFC?

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  3. Bad joke ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cue joke about "CATalytic converters"...

    Mind you, the Brits had a car called a Morris Minor. It's nickname was the "moggie". Is this the same thing?

    1. Re:Bad joke ahead by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      Cue joke about "CAT...

      Did you say something about :CueCat jokes? Let me dig into the archive here; I think I can find a few....

    2. Re:Bad joke ahead by SysSupport · · Score: 0

      That would be a CATastrophe.

    3. Re:Bad joke ahead by MarkGriz · · Score: 1
      "Did you say something about :CueCat jokes?"

      CNN is running a story about how a U.S. inventor has found a way to power a car using useless :CueCat barcode scanners. Yes you read that right. According to the inventor, he can power the vehicle by burning the CueCat scanners, at the rate of 45 miles per 100 scanners.

      Needless to say many intellectual property lawyers are upset by this development, and some are saying that it is illegal to use the devices for this purpose in the U.S, claiming it violates the intellectual property rights and license agreement of Digital Convergence (maker of the Cuecat).

      Fortunately, the same inventor is working on a vehicle powered by intellectual property lawyers. According to the inventor, "you'd be amazed at how much hot air they can produce".
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    4. Re:Bad joke ahead by gryphokk · · Score: 1

      That was the car I first learned to drive (in Oklahoma yet). My dad had a thing for Morris Minors; he's owned about 4 of them. He calls it "the only true sports car -- because it gives the elements an equal chance." And he would have been glad to fuel it with cat carcasses.

      Q. Why do the English drink warm beer?

      A. Because they have Lucas refrigerators.

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    5. Re:Bad joke ahead by Starker_Kull · · Score: 1

      "Would you like Regular, Diesel, or Meow Mix?" (Had to be said...)

    6. Re:Bad joke ahead by SysSupport · · Score: 0

      Only to Piers Anthony, and wasn't there something about a Catapault?

  4. Does anyone know? by aussie_a · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does anyone know if Germany has any WMDs it needs to be liberated of? If not, when's the soonest the American government can give it some so they can invade?

    I know I'll get modded down for this, it was a joke. But then again some people have had their sense of humour surgically removed.

    1. Re:Does anyone know? by Smurfeur · · Score: 1

      > But then again some people have had their sense of humour surgically removed. Yes, Iraquis, for example.

    2. Re:Does anyone know? by prionic6 · · Score: 1

      We have around 150 WMDs. They are not exacly ours... I think they are inside american / NATO bases. But thats superficial of course. Please don't invade us!

    3. Re:Does anyone know? by mikiN · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well, if by WMD you mean Wanton Mammal Destruction, I can only agree with you wholeheartedly.

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    4. Re:Does anyone know? by mikiN · · Score: 1

      Erhm, since the PP was modded below see-level, let me make myself clear: I'm all FOR the elimination of WMD as specified above, and AGAINST the destruction of cats.

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    5. Re:Does anyone know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Umm, sorry you're 60 years too late! They already did :-P

    6. Re:Does anyone know? by KeensMustard · · Score: 1

      Iraquis? Helicopters generally don't have a sense of humour...

    7. Re:Does anyone know? by strider44 · · Score: 1

      Thank you for highlighting his point for him.

    8. Re:Does anyone know? by prionic6 · · Score: 1

      So do you think they will give Iraq WMDs, too?

    9. Re:Does anyone know? by ifwm · · Score: 1

      Well, it's a terrible affliction when people lose their sense of humor.

      I didn't want people to discriminate against him, and I appreciate that you are in favor of my attempts to support the "humorally challenged".

    10. Re:Does anyone know? by strider44 · · Score: 1

      Ha! I admit it I thought that it was you that didn't have the sense of humour. However reading that last post gave me one of the biggest laughs all day so I now have to humbly apoligise for my transgression.

    11. Re:Does anyone know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      WMDs? Absolutely! Just look at this poorly disguised rocket base!

    12. Re:Does anyone know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many jokes are funnier when you don't yell "IT'S A JOKE" at listeners...

    13. Re:Does anyone know? by operagost · · Score: 1

      No, we just think it's a lousy attempt at a joke.

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    14. Re:Does anyone know? by Robotron23 · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean WCD's? Weapons of Cat Destruction?

  5. Finally! by jcr · · Score: 3, Funny

    A use for a cat? Who could have imagined it?

    -jcr

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    1. Re:Finally! by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Funny

      A use for a cat? Who could have imagined it?

      Oh I don't know. I've found them quite useful for my quantum mechanics experiments. What I do is I leave the cat in a box for a week and see if it's dead or alive when I take it out. Sure all 1000 experiments have resulted in death for the cat, but I'm not convinced that this isn't a statistical anomaly. I'll kill another 1000 cats if I have to!

    2. Re:Finally! by jcr · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'll kill another 1000 cats if I have to!

      Cool. Let me know if you get funding for that.

      -jcr

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    3. Re:Finally! by Petersson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      anyway, we are currently using dead dinosaurs and trees as fuel - it is called 'crude oil', 'coal' and 'natural gas'.

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    4. Re:Finally! by Flounder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fill the box with urine and there's a check with your name on it at the National Endowment of the Arts.

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    5. Re:Finally! by Fyz · · Score: 0

      They also go great lightly wok'ed in hoisin sauce with a side of fried noodles.

    6. Re:Finally! by Pyrion · · Score: 1
      Certainly not New Delhi's rat catching authority. They still employ people.

      Cats work for free, and they seem to enjoy it.

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      "There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge." - Bertrand Russell.
    7. Re:Finally! by burad · · Score: 1

      "a dead cat"

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    8. Re:Finally! by mrogers · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a little-known fact that Schrödinger's famous thought experiment concerning a cat was actually carried out, using grad students (they're cheaper than cats). He locked them in a tiny box where they were either awarded funding, or not, but he didn't know which until he opened the box three years later and they were all dead. The experiment is regularly repeated in science departments around the world.

    9. Re:Finally! by eggstasy · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't be so sure if I were you.
      There is also a theory which states that most petroleum could have come from non-biological sources.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_o rigin

    10. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But that would take billions of years, and we know for a fact that the Earth is only about 5000-7000 years old. God put the Oil under the ground for us to use: if He did not want us to burn it up, He would not have put it there in the first place. If and when it runs out, He will take care of His true followers one way or the other.

    11. Re:Finally! by asb · · Score: 1

      A use for a cat? Who could have imagined it?

      Nonsense. The development in electric cars will render this use of cat useless in no time.

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    12. Re:Finally! by flyingsquid · · Score: 1
      There is also a theory which states that most petroleum could have come from non-biological sources.

      According to Wikipedia, "One prediction of most abiogenic theories is that other planets of the solar system or their moons have large petroleum oceans, either from hydrocarbons present at the formation of the solar system, or subsequent chemical reactions."

      Now I see why the White House is such a big proponent of exploring the Moon and Mars.

    13. Re:Finally! by Digi-John · · Score: 1

      Sad but true. I don't know if your post deserves an "Insightful" or a "Funny." For an example of state-funded "art" that looks HORRIBLE, see here. That thing is ugly as sin. It's one of the major reasons I chose not to go to WSU :-)

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    14. Re:Finally! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      There are at least 101 Uses for a Dead Cat.

      This book got me through 7th grade religion class.

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    15. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suddenly have the urge to take a very long roadtrip.

    16. Re:Finally! by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

      How can you respect any institution such as WSU which puts commercials on TV featuring people opening a door to a "physics" class and seeing a space shuttle launch and opening a door to a "French" class and seeing a picture of the Eiffel Tower?

      Speaking as a completely fair, unbiased Huskie. :-)

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    17. Re:Finally! by iplayfast · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that great memory. I'd completely forgotten that book.

    18. Re:Finally! by AJWM · · Score: 1

      No, that's a use for a dead cat. Which brings the count up to 102.

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    19. Re:Finally! by stoanhart · · Score: 1
    20. Re:Finally! by Starker_Kull · · Score: 1

      We have used cats in aviation for years, as described below.

      This is the Cat and Duck method of Instrument Flying.

      Basic Instruments - Cat and Duck:

      Place a live cat on the cockpit floor. Because a cat
      always remains upright, it can be used instead of the
      artificial horizon. Simply watch which way the cat leans to
      determine if a wing is low, and if so, which one.
      The duck is used for the instrument approach. Because
      any sensible duck will refuse to fly under instrument
      conditions, you only need to hurl your duck out of the
      aircraft and follow it to the ground.

      Limitations to Cat and Duck Method:

      Get a wide-awake cat. Most cats don't want to stand up
      at all. It may be necessary to carry a large dog in the
      cockpit to make the cat pay attention.

      Make sure your cat is clean. Dirty cats spend all their
      time washing. Trying to follow a washing cat usually
      results in a snap roll followed by an inverted spin.

      Use an old cat. Young cats still have many of their nine
      lives left, but an old cat has just as much to lose as you
      do and will be more dependable.

      Avoid cowardly ducks. If the duck discovers you are
      using the cat to keep the wings level, it may refuse to
      leave without the cat. Ducks are no better at IMC than
      you are.

      Make sure your duck has good eyesight. Nearsighted
      ducks may fail to realize they are on the gauges and go
      flailing off into the nearest mountain. Very nearsighted
      ducks may not realize they have been thrown from the
      aircraft and will descend to the ground in a sitting
      position. This is very difficult to follow in an airplane.

      Use land-loving ducks. It is very discouraging to break
      out and find yourself on final to a rice paddy, especially if
      there are duck hunters around. Duck hunters suffer from
      temporary insanity after sitting in freezing blinds and will
      shoot at anything that flies.

      Finally, choose your duck carefully. It's easy to confuse
      ducks with geese because many waterfowl look alike.
      Geese are competent instrument fliers, but they seldom
      go where you want them to go. If your duck sets off for
      Canada or New Zealand, you can sure you've been given
      the goose.

  6. Time to bring out a new Jag by funkdancer · · Score: 5, Funny

    That nice purring sound of the engine is strictly no coincidence.

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    1. Re:Time to bring out a new Jag by kalayq · · Score: 5, Funny

      I call it the Catapult.

    2. Re:Time to bring out a new Jag by hamburger+lady · · Score: 1, Funny

      the PussyMobile?

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    3. Re:Time to bring out a new Jag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So thats why Caterpilars have so many horsepow^H^H^H catpowers ...

    4. Re:Time to bring out a new Jag by narcolepticjim · · Score: 1

      Nooo, sorry. It's Pussy Wagon. Pussy Wagon was the phrase we were looking for.

      Beatrix Kiddo, you're still in control.

      "I'll take 'Famous Japanese Weaponsmiths' for $1000."

    5. Re:Time to bring out a new Jag by spun · · Score: 1

      You know, I have a cat's rear end mounted on a plaque. I thought it was a good idea when I bought it, but it turned out to be a cat-ass-trophy.

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    6. Re:Time to bring out a new Jag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear dogs tend to chase your car more after you fill up with cat fuel.

      How do you make a cat go "woof"? Soak it in petrol and chuck a match on it!

  7. Every time you masturbate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Everytime you masturbate, God kills a kitten."
    Woohoo! We can now masturbate AND power our car with the results!
    *grabs a box of tissues*

    1. Re:Every time you masturbate... by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      Gees, God sure does kill kittens a lot!

      Is there nothing that can be solved by killing more kittens?

    2. Re:Every time you masturbate... by ramblin+billy · · Score: 1


      Whoa there pardner!

      Please be a little more careful with your research!

      This rule only applies if you masturbate WITH the kitten.

      Otherwise the kitten just gets a nasty case of indigestion and a mild head cold. It's careless fact checking like this that gives God a bad name. Well, that and polio, plagues, the pox, pedophile priests...

      billy - so how bored DO you have to be to invent that whole gerbil thing?

    3. Re:Every time you masturbate... by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 1

      Woohoo! We can now masturbate AND power our car with the results!
      *grabs a box of tissues*


      Car Pooling just got a whole lot cheaper.

  8. and cnn falls for it, too by matt4077 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This was a story by BILD, the world's largest tabloid newspaper. It is nicely rebuked at Bildblog.de which is a meta-blog following BILD and exposing it's errors, bias and lies. The company ("Alphakat") simply develops a method to process waste as a kind of Bio-Diesel.

    1. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by stirz · · Score: 5, Informative

      Taken (and translated) from http://alphakat.de/ :

      "IMPORTANT INFORMATION

      The claim spreaded by German media that Dr. Christian Koch is producing Diesel fuel from dead cats is entirely wrong and are entirey unrealistic.

      Legal steps have already been taken to counter these claims."

      This is ridiculous... Koch's firm simply introduced methods to produce Diesel fuel from waste oil, plastic waste, old plants, sewage sludge, ordinary household garbage and cadavers (which *surprise* could also be run-over cats!).

      Tsss... tabloids...

    2. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is a (rough) translation of the rebuke on the company's webpage that parent linked to (www.alphakat.de):

      IMPORTANT NOTICE!

      The news circulating in the German media at the moment concerning the use of dead cats by Dr. Christian Koch in the production of diesel fuel are absolutely false and are totally unrelated to reality. We have taken legal measures against these claims.

    3. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by cafard · · Score: 1

      This was a story by BILD, the world's largest tabloid newspaper.

      I would have given that honorific title to the Sun, but well, that might be just me.

      Let's look at some random titles from the front page: "Is Zeta Jones an air head?", "Ian Brown's saucy babes", "Sexpert reveals how to look great in the buff", "Wayne sent off after crazy taunt at ref".
      Yeah, they *definitely* get my vote. :)

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    4. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by mx.2000 · · Score: 1

      Wikipedia states that Bild has a circulation of about 3,650,000 vs ~3,200,000 of The Sun.

    5. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by cafard · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the numbers. Now i have to fathom the thought that there might be even worse 'journalism' than the Sun. What a terrible thought...

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    6. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 5, Informative

      Oh, and the company's name ("Alphakat") is not derived from the word Katze (cat) but rather from Katalysator (catalizer). Indeed, the company used catalyzers to transform organic matter (all kinds of organic matter, rather than just the specific farfetched example cited) into fuel.

    7. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by Secrity · · Score: 1

      Looks to me like they were writing a newspaper article using Babelfish to translate a press release.

    8. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      Taken (and translated) from alphakat.de:

      You know it's named after a catalytic process. I know it's named after a catalytic process. The rest of the world knows the guy has "kat" right there in the name of the company.

      Choosing "Alphakatalytisch" might've saved the good doctor a fair amount of grief.

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    9. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Katze and Katalysator, you say?

      It would appear that KDE has found its source of power after Peak Oil.

    10. Re:and cnn falls for it, too by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      They'ld never use Babelfish, because it didn't score well in their test of online translators. Which was another case for BILDblog - because the results prove they didn't use the sentences they said they tested the translators with.

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  9. Schrodinger by Emeye · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...woulld be pleased.

    1. Re:Schrodinger by Phil246 · · Score: 4, Funny

      no he wouldnt
      yes he would
      no he wouldnt
      ... :)

    2. Re:Schrodinger by hoehue · · Score: 1, Funny

      I just wonder when would I know if I'm still in the garage or already on the highway.

    3. Re:Schrodinger by Brannoncyll · · Score: 1

      Heck, with this you would have an internal combustion engine without even having to moderate the fuel input!

    4. Re:Schrodinger by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I think I had a Schrodinger Car once: I didn't know whether or not it would start and I was never sure if the engine was dead or just faking it.

  10. uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... I think I speak for everybody when I say "Ewww!"

    1. Re:uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I speak for everybody when I say YUM!

  11. Brings new meaning ...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... to the phrase "catalytic converter".

  12. Dead animal fuel by binkzz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While it may not be such a good idea to find stray cats to fill up your car, I think the development is certainly interesting.

    If you take BSE for instance, where tens of thousands of cows are slaughtered 'just in case' and are unfit for consumption - what if we could use those animals for fuel? Or maybe even insects or Republicans. Ridding your house of pests may fill your car up at the same time. Africa may be able sell its grasshopper plague with enough profit to buy more food.

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    1. Re:Dead animal fuel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Africa may be able sell its grasshopper plague"

      Why sell them? Grasshoppers aren't so unhealthy as food.

    2. Re:Dead animal fuel by binkzz · · Score: 1

      Interestingly, they're the only insects which are kosher, too. I often wondered why people in such plagues wouldn't try to capture them and eat them, but I'm sure there are many difficulties catching them.

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      'For we walk by faith, not by sight.' II Corinthians 5:7
    3. Re:Dead animal fuel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Or maybe even insects or Republicans.

      Why stop at Republicans? All politicians should go. And don't forget lawyers! And creationists! And the poor, after all they aren't contributing anything. And the rich for hoarding all the wealth. And criminals. And the terrorists or anyone that thinks terrorism is ok. Or men, after all how many wars have been started by women?

    4. Re:Dead animal fuel by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1
      Or maybe even insects or Republicans.

      There's an old saying:
      Republicans think Democrats are people with bad ideas.
      Democrats think Republicans are bad people.

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    5. Re:Dead animal fuel by binkzz · · Score: 1

      You forgot:

      Democrats think Republicans have no sense of humor.

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  13. Publicity stunt by TummyX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gee, why not state that he's making them from human corpses? Hell, if he did then michael moore could make a movie about how bush singly handedly created hurricane katrina in order to turn black people into oil (if he hasn't already done so).

    There's no reason why the fuel can't be exclusiuvely made out of less controversial (and, from a cat owner's point of view, less offensive) fuel farm animal waste products, trash and other oranic waste.

    The only reason, I see, that he mentioned cats was to get on the news.

    1. Re:Publicity stunt by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

      sure, you could picks a less controversial fuel... but cats are funny, and that's what matters.

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    2. Re:Publicity stunt by Progman3K · · Score: 3, Funny

      >Gee, why not state that he's making them from human corpses?

      Soylent Gas - It's PEOPLE!

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    3. Re:Publicity stunt by commodoresloat · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Considering the amount of inhumanity that goes on in the oil industry - including the protection and support by oil companies of murderous and repressive governments in oil producing countries - it is not too far a stretch to say that we already are filling our tanks with human remains. I'm not the first to have this thought.....

    4. Re:Publicity stunt by Threni · · Score: 1, Funny

      > well, if he did then michael moore could make a movie about how bush singly
      > handedly created hurricane katrina in order to turn black people into oil (if
      > he hasn't already done so).

      Can you point me in the direction of a single instance of Michael Moore lying or exagurating something bad that Bush has done?

    5. Re:Publicity stunt by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 0

      "Soylent Diesel is PEOPLE!!!!"

    6. Re:Publicity stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why donst this flamebaiting troll just go to the moore site and see how much he has mobilised himself and his personal staff to go down to the mississipi delta to help those people out.
      michael moore has reailed against this urban social decay in america for years. its quite funny how fahreheit 9/11 is all the bushies and wing buts taqlk about ignoring maichael moores revaltions regarding the future of corporate america and its urban poor victims.

      moe than the right wing neo cons have that TummiX seems ot worship.

    7. Re:Publicity stunt by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

      Well, how about the Bush family's connections with the Bin Laden family? That suggests to people who don't know any better that Bush and Osama might have been friends. Apart from the fact that being good friends once does not mean being good friends forever, Osama Bin Laden is an outcast in his own family. So here's a case of Michael Moore trying to put Bush in a bad light, and it's purely based on hints and speculation.

      Bush has plenty of faults, and it's outrageous that he got reelected after all he had done, but Michael Moore ignores many of the good arguments in favor of his faint suggestions and conspiracy theories.

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    8. Re:Publicity stunt by ramblin+billy · · Score: 1


      Whoa there pardner! Please be a little more careful with your research!

      Bush did not single out black people, he was after anyone with no country club membership who also owned waterfront property.

      Everybody knows that Bush singlehandedly created Katrina to clear away the pesky low-lifers to make way for him and his friends to develop the Gulf Coast into something "even more vibrant than before". It's careless fact checking like this that gives Bush a bad name. Well, that and WMD fantasies, fat cat tax cuts, intelligent design fud, record deficit spending, Karl Rove ...

      billy - torn between laughter and tears

    9. Re:Publicity stunt by Politburo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      bin Laden family members and other Saudi nationals were flown out of the country after 9/11 on flights provided by the FBI. That is an irrefutable fact, and there have never been any answers from the government about those flights.

      bin Laden an outcast? didn't he show up at a wedding a few years ago? "Sheikh Ahmad said he and his mother last saw bin Laden at the January 2001 wedding of one of Osama's sons in Afghanistan." Granted, Osama's step-brother isn't the most reliable source, but why would his family travel from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan to attend his son's wedding if he was an 'outcast'?

      I agree that Moore goes a bit too extreme from time to time, but there's something with this issue that remains to be answered.

    10. Re:Publicity stunt by Threni · · Score: 1

      > Apart from the fact that being good friends once does not mean being good
      > friends forever, Osama Bin Laden is an outcast in his own family. So here's a
      > case of Michael Moore trying to put Bush in a bad light, and it's purely based
      > on hints and speculation.

      Michael Moore has never, to my knowledge, used the fact that Bin Laden is or isn't an `outcast in his own family` to show that Bush is a bad person. Why do you mention it here? I was after an example of Moore exagurating or lying. Do you have one?

    11. Re:Publicity stunt by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

      Sorry if I did not make myself clear. What I meant is that Michael Moore (in Fahrenheit 9/11) points out that the Bushes and the Bin Ladens knew each other, but nothing more. I see that as a suggestion that George W. And Osama might have known each other, and Bush should have known that the country was being threatened, or worse, orchestrated the attack.*

      In the meantime, Michael conveniently neglects to mention that Osama was basically an outcast in his own family. The Bin Ladens are (AFAIK) pretty respectable traders, and distanced themselves from Osama's terrorism.

      Taking the above two paragraphs together, it looks to me as if Michael Moore is trying to convince the viewers that Bush had good connections with Osama, using vague hints and ignoring clues to the contrary. I think that's pretty low.

      While on the subject, I think the whole movie was pretty unconvincing. Certainly there are better arguments than the ones Moore used. Another example (mentioned by another poster): the flying out of Bin Ladens from the US after the attack, on FBI money. Maybe Michael Moore thinks it's suspicious, but I think it's pretty normal that these people needed to be evacuated, lest they become the target of public outrage.

      * I don't think that it's at all impossible that the attack was staged. It certainly came in awfully convenient for the plans of the government, particularly the PNAC members.

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    12. Re:Publicity stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >why not state that he's making
      >them from human corpses?

      During WWII the nazi literally produced soap and canvas for desk lamps out of the jewish people they gassed in concentration camps. Me thinks a german inventor should not do research in such direction...

    13. Re:Publicity stunt by Progman3K · · Score: 1

      Where there are monkeys, there is monkey-business.
      Where there are men, there is men-business...
      SSDS

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    14. Re:Publicity stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. You're an mouth-breathing idiot.

      2. You're a mouth-breathing idiot who didn't even bother to read the article:

      "It's an alternative fuel that is friendly for the environment. But it's complete nonsense to suggest dead cats. I've never used cats and would never think of that."

    15. Re:Publicity stunt by Highroller · · Score: 1

      Unbelievable. It's so obviously a publicity stunt, but everyone is getting worked up over this. There are more pressing issues in the news, and certainly more serious cases of animal cruelty than this.

    16. Re:Publicity stunt by shis-ka-bob · · Score: 1

      Germany already has a WWII era patent on a self-fueling crematorium. The trick seemed to be to have enough body fat left on the corpses to sustain the fire. So, all you need to do to have an excess of energy is to burn the fat cats.

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    17. Re:Publicity stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, Michael Moore's body could be used to end our dependence on foreign oil!
      Of course we would loose the major source of hot air!

    18. Re:Publicity stunt by MullerMn · · Score: 1

      In the meantime, Michael conveniently neglects to mention that Osama was basically an outcast in his own family.

      This is quite demonstrably false. The film includes an interview with the Saudi ambassador (or similar high up) who says that Osama is the black sheep of the Bin Laden family and that they have nothing to do with him.

      Is that the best you can do as an example of Moore making stuff up? I mean he put the interview in the film for Christs sake.

      So come on, provide some proper examples of Moore making stuff up to make Bush look bad.

    19. Re:Publicity stunt by DavidHumus · · Score: 1

      We already have a way to turn the corpses of the poor into fuel - it's called "the war in Iraq".

    20. Re:Publicity stunt by khallow · · Score: 1
      Is that the best you can do as an example of Moore making stuff up? I mean he put the interview in the film for Christs sake.

      His repeated claims that he's from Flint, MI when he's really from a suburb. I find this blatant lie shocking!

      More seriously, I see the pattern here. People will point out more examples of Moore's propaganda and distortion of facts and you will keep saying "Is this the best you can do?" I don't play rigged games.

    21. Re:Publicity stunt by JonKatzIsAnIdiot · · Score: 1

      bin Laden family members and other Saudi nationals were flown out of the country after 9/11 on flights provided by the FBI. That is an irrefutable fact, and there have never been any answers from the government about those flights.

      Sorry, but that is simply not true. I suggest you look at the 9/11 Commission report, page 329.

      Here's an executive summary for you:
      1. The Saudis left after the national airspace was re-opened on the morning of Sept. 13, 2001.
      2. There was no political intervention. The highest government official involved in the decision to let the Saudis leave is a man named Richard Clark, who chaired an interagency group.
      3. The FBI screened all the Saudi nationals who left and were satisified that none of them had anything to do with the 9/11 tragedy.

    22. Re:Publicity stunt by Bimo_Dude · · Score: 1
      I think that in Farenheit 9/11, Moore made the mistake of presenting his arguments, but not really providing enough information to back them up. I also think that he tried to put too much humor in the movie, which made it seem less credible.

      I also think that it's not impossible that the whole thing could have been cooked up by the PNAC people, or - at the very least - ignored when there was a real threat.

      Regarding the Bin-Laden family evacuation on 9/12, I think the point the Moore was trying to make was that they were not even questioned by the FBI prior to boarding the planes. Again, Moore's argument and supporting evidence were presented quite weakly.

      That movie could've been much better.

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    23. Re:Publicity stunt by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      So why didn't he "fly out" hundreds of people of Arabic origin, instead of throwing them into jail for months without a trial? Why were the Bin Ladens known to be "respectable traders"? Because they had connections with the Bush family maybe? There are members of the Bin Laden family slightly less extreme than Ossama, did they even check if they were among those "evacuated"?

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  14. Dead Animals by drzolo · · Score: 0

    "CNN is running a story about how a German inventor has found a way to power a car using dead cats. ...... Needless to say many animal rights activists are upset by this development, and some are siting that it is illegal to use animals for this purpose in Germany."

    It does say the cats are dead, so what do the Animal Rights Activists see wrong in here?! ........??

    1. Re:Dead Animals by aussie_a · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Pfft, we've been using dead animals to run cars for years and they've never complained before. This is nothing new ;)

      Also, pets are killed on a daily basis in the hundreds, at least this way we're putting them to good use.

    2. Re:Dead Animals by Knome_fan · · Score: 1

      They don't see anything wrong here.
      Bild not only reported a non-story, because the guy never made diesel out of cats, nor does he intend to do, but also misquoted the Animal Rights Activists.
      http://www.bildblog.de/?p=791 (Sorry, only in German)

    3. Re:Dead Animals by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      I agree. Frankly, I can't think of a better use for my corpse (when the time comes) than to harvest it for organs and tissue, and convert the rest into fuel. Why on earth would I want to waste some valuable space to put it (along with a bunch of toxic chemicals) into a hole in the ground or spend money and resources burning it instead?

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    4. Re:Dead Animals by rca66 · · Score: 1
      Pfft, we've been using dead animals to run cars for years and they've never complained before.
      Coal is formed by plants, oil by plants and microorganisms from the sea. You hardly call that "animals".
    5. Re:Dead Animals by JourneyExpertApe · · Score: 1

      Also, pets are killed on a daily basis in the hundreds, at least this way we're putting them to good use.

      This is true. I used to volunteer at a cat shelter. Then I realized that they weren't interested in finding homes for the animals, and basicly served as a kitty death camp. They kill over a hundred cats a month sometimes. They find homes for at most a dozen a month. They've recently adopted a new policy of killing all cats they receive within 10 days. Most of the people who bring the cats there think they're doing the right thing, but I don't think they would do so if they realized that the animal was going to die by lethal injection shortly after arriving. They also won't let you get a cat if you say you're going to get it declawed. Bunch of stupid irrational hippies.

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    6. Re:Dead Animals by kyouteki · · Score: 1

      And I imagine it would be even worse if they could sell these kitty corpses to Conoco or whoever to make fuel. One-day turnaround.

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  15. Ouch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I thought it said "a cost of about $0.30 per litter". And I wondered who would be cruel enough to be selling cat litters for fuel.

  16. Yes, thats all very nice, by stunt_penguin · · Score: 1, Funny

    but does it require the use of a catalytic converter to run properly, or are unconverted cats okay? *hides

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  17. Bild is s**t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep in mind that "Bild" is one of the biggest and *worst* tabloid papers there is in Germany - take everything they write with a bucket of salt.
    The English equivalent would be the "Sun", I think.

    1. Re:Bild is s**t by Phil246 · · Score: 1

      probably , or The Mirror.
      The TV-Equivalent would probably be Fox News :)

    2. Re:Bild is s**t by nucal · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Separated at birth:

      Bild and Sun

  18. cats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, Maybe cats finally have a use on this planet. Hmm, Do you give to use all 9 lives?

  19. Reusable energy source? by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can the process be used to produce energy once for each of a cat's nine lives? If so, it should be popular with environmentalists.

    1. Re:Reusable energy source? by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 1

      Good point - a real engineer would squeeze more efficiency out of the system.

      I'm thinking along the lines of a turbocharger: a whole herd of hamsters in the boot. When you need a little extra power, get them to run on an array of little hamster-wheels. When they eventually snuff it, stuff them in the tank with the cats... use the organic matter twice!

    2. Re:Reusable energy source? by LeGarcia · · Score: 0

      Yeah... Just spare the last life and return them to nature.

  20. so how many... by HaveBlue34 · · Score: 1

    meows to the mile?

  21. It will only be a matter of time... by thrill12 · · Score: 1

    ...until we hear someone screaming:
    Soylent Shell is People !


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  22. Claim denied by Mr. Koch's company website by wlvdc · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Alphakat website states (in german) that the messages distributed by the media about Dr. Christian Koch (Koch is german for 'cook') processing dead cats into diesel are false and unfounded. And that legal action is being taken against those who made these allegations...

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    1. Re:Claim denied by Mr. Koch's company website by ettlz · · Score: 1

      Is that a categorical denial, then?

    2. Re:Claim denied by Mr. Koch's company website by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
      Koch is german for 'cook'

      And Bild is german for kook...

    3. Re:Claim denied by Mr. Koch's company website by drmerope · · Score: 1

      You can read an article on his denial here: http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid /32513/story.htm

  23. Prior Art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surely a catalitic convertor is Prior art?

    Try the veal

  24. 100% efficient by toQDuj · · Score: 3, Funny

    input to 'cat' produces equal amounts of output with 100% efficiency. I've never had any dropped ASCII characters when using cat.

    animal rights activists shush, this process apparently involves dead animals, so if they're dead, what will you be doing about it? Will the dead animals benefit from your actions?
    In any case, many dead animals end up processed for animal food anyway.

    B.

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    1. Re:100% efficient by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      Useless Use of Cat Award.

      Useless Use of Cat Award form letter

      (Quote abomination)

      And of course, if you've been following along for a week or two, you know
      that this (BING!) is a Useless Use of Cat!

      Remember, nearly all cases where you have:

                      cat file | some_command and its args ...

      you can rewrite it as:

                      <file some_command and its args ...

      and in some cases, such as this one, you can move the filename
      to the arglist as in:

                      some_command and its args ... file

      Just another Useless Use of Usenet

    2. Re:100% efficient by vesik · · Score: 1

      many dead animals end up processed for human food too.

  25. Nice checking, editors! by thecampbeln · · Score: 4, Informative

    "It's an alternative fuel that is friendly for the environment. But it's complete nonsense to suggest dead cats. I've never used cats and would never think of that. At most the odd toad may have jumped in."

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    1. Re:Nice checking, editors! by chub_mackerel · · Score: 1

      Good to know it's a hoax.

      After all, the last thing the Germans need is notoriety for inventing a new "kitty" gas chamber.

    2. Re:Nice checking, editors! by LeGarcia · · Score: 0

      It seems that the Big-Oil-Industry Public Relations machine has landed at planet slashdot.

      Sad.

    3. Re:Nice checking, editors! by Who+Man · · Score: 1

      No shit. I mean, I love a "dead cats turned into fuel" story as much as the next guy, but when the story is actually about a guy saying he didn't turn dead cats into fuel, it's kind of a let-down.

  26. efficiency? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From what I understand, you're using the lipids in the bio-matter. Water's got to be boiled off, and all the other junk removed.

    Unless cats are just big blobs of fat, seems kind of inefficient to me.

    1. Re:efficiency? by KDR_11k · · Score: 0

      Big blobs of fat? You mean McDonalds is secretly preparing the USA for an oil crisis?

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  27. Re:Schrodinger would be pleased by Progman3K · · Score: 1, Funny

    You can't know that until you open the box.

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  28. Alzheimer for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This could actually be very dangerous if the cats processed the wrong way. When the mad-cow-cows are burnt they have to be burnt at a very high pressure or the mad-cow - virus-particles (prions actually) will not be destroyed. The prions will be spread in the wind. Imagine if everyone got the mad-cat-disease by walking behind the purring cars. /Joe Bob

  29. Hoax by slashflood · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's just a hoax of our famous 'newspaper' called Bild. If you can read German, visit the Bildblog, a blog dedicated to debunk all of Bilds hoaxes. In the meantime, Dr. Christian Koch put a note on his website, declining that he is using dead cats to produce fuel.

    1. Re:Hoax by NeuroManson · · Score: 1

      Awwwcrap, it's "Bonsai Kitten" all over again.
      (sits back and starts munching popcorn, watching for the inevitable comedy)

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    2. Re:Hoax by hattig · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is a particularly dangerous hoax, given the extremity of Animal Rights Protesters. This could have put this guy, his family and his employees in serious danger of being attacked and seriously hurt, if not killed. Especially now the story has gone onto CNN and other media...

      It is more than irresponsible for the newspaper to publish this type of story without any proof, without contacting the people involved, and so on. It might be a tabloid newspaper, but that doesn't give them the freedom to lie! It just means the published stuff is more 'people centric' than 'political/business centric'.

    3. Re:Hoax by slashflood · · Score: 1

      The good thing is, that Bild has absolutely no reputation in Germany. I don't know who's worse: the German Bild or the UK Sun. Whatever Bild does, it is very easy to debunk and the mentioned Bildblog is getting more and more popular. It is actually a pretty good PR for the innovative, alternative fuel company.

      But I'm with you, it can get dangerous...

    4. Re:Hoax by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
      I don't know who's worse: the German Bild or the UK Sun.

      ... or Luxembourg's Wort...

    5. Re:Hoax by 32771 · · Score: 1

      ... of our famous 'newspaper' called Bild.

      No, no you were looking for another word - 'infamous'.

      Gee, this is BILD, always bringing out the best in people.

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  30. English language? Hello? by kahei · · Score: 1


    'siting'?

    To 'site' is to place something such as a building or an event on a given piece of land: 'We sited the new airport on reclaimed ground to the north of the city."

    To 'cite' is to refer to a document: 'The mayor cited reports that showed that the airport was unneccessary.'

    Neither word is appropriate in the context of the summary. 'Claimed' or 'asserted' would have been better.

    The editor was probably trying, in an adorably muddled way, to write the word 'cite'. He didn't do very well. He should probably get a pat on the head anyway. At least he tried. At least he _seems_ to have picked a word of some kind, even though it wasn't the right word, even though he couldn't really write it... he tried.

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  31. Message on their website by thrill12 · · Score: 1

    "Die im Moment in den deutschen Medien verbreiteten Meldungen Dr. Christian Koch würde Katzenkadaver zu Diesel verarbeiten sind absolut falsch und entbehren jeden Bezug zur Realität. Juristische Maßnahmen gegen diese Behauptungen wurden bereits unternommen. "

    (The news currently spread in the German media that Dr. Christian Koch processes cat-cadavers into diesel-fuel is absolutely wrong and has no connection whatsoever to reality. Judicial measures against these accusations have been taken already.)

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  32. Oh come on by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    There are already plenty of great uses for cats.

    1. Re:Oh come on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I know that's meant as a joke (the kitten huffing is actually quite hillarious), but IMHO Bonsai Kitten borders on promoting animal cruelty. It just isn't clear enough whether or not the site is meant to be a joke. Of course, even if it is a joke there are sick fucks who will actually do that kind of thing regardless. I have almost no faith in humanity.

    2. Re:Oh come on by Vr6dub · · Score: 1

      You have got to be kidding me!!! The bonsai shit is horrible. If that is real I demand the owner of the site to put his own kid in the third set of pictures in a similar enclosure and see what comes of that. Where's my gun!!

    3. Re:Oh come on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All I can say is that if the owner of the bonzaikitten site was anywhere near me, and I was aware of the details, he wouldn't be laughing so much.

      I find it difficult to believe that the site is anything more than a joke, but, still find the pictures of, what appear to be, live cats forced into tiny jars, then posted on the Internet for people's amusement to be sick to say the least.

      There are people out there who I imagine would take this site's information as an acceptable and amusing thing to do. ...

  33. More accurately... by stupid_is · · Score: 1
    Also reported on El Reg:

    The heating of organic materials that contain fats to produce a bio-diesel fuel - not quite the image of burning dead cats (thankfully).

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  34. They'll have to update the book now by Soloact · · Score: 1, Funny

    They'll have to update the book "101 Uses For A Dead Cat" http://www.undergroundhumor.com/books/101_uses_dea d_cat.htm now, to keep it accurate. Your copy is now outdated.

  35. Why cats? How bout family? by Danathar · · Score: 1

    How much fuel can I get out of my BROTHER!

    Just theoretically speaking of course..

    1. Re:Why cats? How bout family? by polysylabic+psudonym · · Score: 1

      What's his BMI? (or in US measure)

  36. YHBTBB by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 2, Informative

    you have been trolled by BILD.

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  37. bull. by hamburger+lady · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hell, if he did then michael moore could make a movie about how bush singly handedly created hurricane katrina in order to turn black people into oil (if he hasn't already done so).

    come on, nobody believes that bush single-handedly created the hurricane. its pretty obvious that he had some help.

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    1. Re:bull. by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1
      its pretty obvious that he had some help

      He used those UFO's they have laying around which they built with the help from the Germans engineers after WW2.

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    2. Re:bull. by hamburger+lady · · Score: 1

      your ideas intrigue me and i would like to subscribe to your newsletter. is it printed on tin foil? cause that would be cool.

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    3. Re:bull. by bidule · · Score: 1

      C'mon, ppl. If you want to moderate down, to it intelligently. This may be both OT and unfunny. But not worth Troll or Flamebait. Real ones sound like this:

      <troll>
      Those you moderated down the parent quote must be religious fanatics blinded by their faith. They know that Katrina is an act of their vengeful god, but they refuse to see it as god's answer to the shameful attempt of Bush to play god on Earth.

      They believe their faith makes them right and that God is on their side. If God's will goes against their wishes, it must be the work of the Devil.
      </troll>

      Now. this is good Troll, it's even OT so easy to mod down. But hey, some moderators still need to be educated. <EG>

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    4. Re:bull. by ooze · · Score: 1

      No, it was Fidel Castro. Didn't Katrina come from Cuba? He sure has some WDMs much more destructive than anything the US has. Maybe he just told all Cubans to blow out thier cigar smoke at once.

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  38. 30 cents? by calyptos · · Score: 1

    It costs well over 30 cents to raise a cat, and wait for it to die.

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    1. Re:30 cents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Who says you have to wait?

      /evil grin >:)

    2. Re:30 cents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who says you have to wait?

      Havn't you played Carmageddon?

    3. Re:30 cents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if you happen to *accidentally* run over any cats eating the 30 cents worth of cat food some thoughtless person just happend to leave in the middle of the street ... you could purchase more cat food with the money you save on fuel !!!

  39. [No subject :-) ] by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

    ...produce the biodiesel fuel at the cost of about $0.30 (US) per liter...

    I think we solved the oil shortage problem. Just raise cats - at something like 0.50$ a day for cat food - then make biofuel out of them...

    "Cat got your tongue? (something important seems to be missing from your comment ... like the body or the subject!)"

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  40. slow newsday cnn? by Keruo · · Score: 1

    How about verifying facts before citing?

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    1. Re:slow newsday cnn? by mabinogi · · Score: 1

      don't you mean 'siting'? ;)

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  41. This must be a new lowdown... by mx.2000 · · Score: 1

    ...for both CNN and slashdot. Seriously, Bild is the world's largest tabloid newspaper, and probably the worst of all of them.

    Making fuel out of organic waste is nothing really new or revolutionary. Using dead animals for this is not illegal at all.

    Read more at http://www.bildblog.de/?p=791 (German)
    Babelfish translation http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pag econtent?lp=de_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bildblog.de %2F%3Fp%3D791

  42. The looney left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So let me get this straight... stem cell research from dead human embryos is good but using dead cats is offensive?

    1. Re:The looney left by oliana · · Score: 1

      Yes.

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  43. Alternatives by ThreeDayMonk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One could presumably also use the remains of other creatures, such as politicians, lawyers, and estate agents.

    "In theory".

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    1. Re:Alternatives by worf_mo · · Score: 2, Funny

      One could presumably also use the remains of other creatures, such as politicians, lawyers, and estate agents.

      I don't hate my car enough to expect it to handle that.

    2. Re:Alternatives by magpie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do we have to wait till they're dead though?

    3. Re:Alternatives by Jamu · · Score: 1

      Would anyone be concerned enough to check?

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    4. Re:Alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations on getting "Insightful" rather than "Funny" mods for that.

    5. Re:Alternatives by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

      Exxon Green is people!

    6. Re:Alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems to me that you'd get the most for your dollar if you followed those huge people you always find congregating at buffets. Hell, I'm pretty sure even their crap is fat.

    7. Re:Alternatives by Zerbs · · Score: 1

      of course you have to deal with the fact that 87.3% of the average politician's biomass is actually just hot air.

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    8. Re:Alternatives by dr.matrix · · Score: 1

      I suggest Bild journalists. The diesel may have to be filtered to get the crap out, though..

  44. Re:Ultimate anti-karma by d_strand · · Score: 1

    oh man.... you are one of those people who believe everything you hear on tv or read in the papers, aren't you?

  45. No tiger in the tank by cwernli · · Score: 1

    As The Register points out, this is theoretically possible, but not planned:

    Dr Christian Koch, 55, from Kleinhartmannsdorf says he doesn't use cats after all, rather spoiling things for punsters hoping to make jokes about putting a tiger in your tank. Any old biomatter will do: old tyres, paper, textiles, plastics weeds and so on.

    It then goes on: The underlying principle is fairly straightfoward: all organic material, animals and vegetables, contains fatty acids, albeit often in large involatile fat molecules. These can be broken down by heat into fatty acids and their derivatives which can in turn be converted into biodiesel.

    So, unfortunately, nothing too spectacular here.

    1. Re:No tiger in the tank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Koch said around 20 dead cats added into the mix could help produce enough fuel to fill up a 50-liter (11 gallon) tank

      When there are facts flying around at the next argument, I mean discussion, over the viability of green and other alternate sources of energy, here's one to let fly !
       
      And a pretty spectacular fact at that.

  46. Because dead cats... by polysylabic+psudonym · · Score: 1

    are so much more common than waste deep fryer oil.

    I guess you can at least pick up fuel on the way home.

  47. Punalicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Listen to that engine purr...

  48. Offical Statement on Alphakat Website by baburas · · Score: 1

    There's an offical statement about this story on http://www.alphakat.de/.

    Statement translated to English:
    The messages Dr. Christian cook spread for the moment in the German media Katzenkadaver would convert to Diesel is absolutely wrong and would miss each purchase to the reality. Legal measures against these statements were already undertaken.

  49. Anyone remember the Esso advert... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...about "putting a tiger in your tank"???

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    1. Re:Anyone remember the Esso advert... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
      One more reason to boycott Esso!

      (Actually, the real reason to boycott Esso is just the reverse: unlike most other "petrol" companies they do not invest a single cent into researching alternative energy sources. That way they are putting themselves into a situation where they will have to defend the petrol-based status quo to the death. That's why Esso (or rather its US affiliates: Exxon, ...) lobbyed Bush to stay out of the Kyoto agreement, whereas the other "petrol" companies (or, nowadays, energy companies) couldn't care less)

    2. Re:Anyone remember the Esso advert... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I even have the key chain from the gas club. ...of course it was my grandfathers :)

  50. Nice SPELL checking, editors! by Xarius · · Score: 1

    ... and some are siting that it is illegal to use animals for this purpose in Germany."

    They can't even get spelling and/or grammar correct, what chance do we have for facts?

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  51. Do remember... by thrill12 · · Score: 1

    ...we are driving our cars on carcasses already.
    Carcasses of dead dinosaurs.
    Maybe we should put a nice picture of a smiling little dinosaur on the frontpage of the Bild, together with a phrase reading : "Dinosaurs mistreated for human cars!"

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    1. Re:Do remember... by BreadMan · · Score: 1

      >> Carcasses of dead dinosaurs

      Sinclair oil has already participated in the exploitation of the dinosaurs for thier marketing purposes.

  52. But is it good enough... by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

    to produce 1.21 gigawatts worth of power for a flying time-travelling car?

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    1. Re:But is it good enough... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1

      Nononononono, this sucker's electrical! You'll need a nuclear reaction to generate 1.21 gigawatts of electricity...

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  53. The slogan possibilities are endless.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's one possibility: Put A Tabby In Your Tank.

  54. In related news... by SrmL · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...it's reported that there has been found a way to power a car using dead dinosaurs...

  55. German inventor denies using dead cats by spafbnerf · · Score: 1

    RTFA here.

  56. This needs more research by archeopterix · · Score: 1
    This method needs more research. I'd be interested to see the cost comparison results with the LCPTC(*) method.

    (*) Live Cats Pulling The Car

  57. BILD lügt by ph1l0r · · Score: 5, Informative

    This news is simply no news. Its a story entirely made up by the biggest german tabloid called Bild. Everyone in Germany with a little education knows that Bild lies in every second line. It's sad to see that even CNN and Reuters fall for stories made up by Bild. I have been in the States for six months and i do have to say that i was amused by the "news" being broadcasted first which soon shifted for me to feel sorry for you guys over there. Unfortunatly there seem too few people having a critical approach to what the news tell them and who inform themselves from really different sources. This is a link to a german blog by journalists that monitor Bild covering the "cat-fuel" article: http://www.bildblog.de/?p=791 It's german, don't know if babelfish etc will be able to translate it properly.

    1. Re:BILD lügt by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      Duh... look at the government. How could critical thinkers vote those idiots into office?

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    2. Re:BILD lügt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's sad to see that even CNN and Reuters fall for stories made up by Bild

      Correction. Reuters filed this news under their "Oddly Enough" news section on their website.

      This section offers a tongue-in-check selection of news from around the world of strange or bizarre happenings. Its not exactly front page news, more a comic relief from the terrible things happening in todays world.

      One can check out their original article here http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?typ e=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-09-14T165039Z_01_DI T460670_RTRIDST_0_ODD-GERMANY-CATS-DC.XML&archived =False which debunks the sensationlist "car runs on dead cats" rubbish.

    3. Re:BILD lügt by n3umh · · Score: 1

      I don't know if it's no news... if this technology really works as advertised, it's substantial.

      It appears that once you get the plant going, you just dump in catalyst and organic material, and you get diesel out. It runs on the fuel it produces, requiring about 10% of its output to keep the plant running.

      ***$1.13/gallon diesel***

      Of course, how long it would take each shiny stainless plant as shown on alphakat.de to pay for itself, who knows, but if you were selling the product at prices competitive with today's fuel prices, you'd be making a tidy profit per gallon.

    4. Re:BILD lügt by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      Ohh, it isn't entirely made up. Just the part with the cats and the animal rights activists.

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    5. Re:BILD lügt by theCoder · · Score: 1

      It looks like CNN has changed their story to "Inventor denies dead cat fuel story". Wonder if there's a cached copy of the old version somewhere. I think more than anything else, this ability to silently change a published story is dangerous, and probably leads to weak fact checking. Since there's no real negative reprocussions to publishing false stories (just change it later and pretend nothing happened) and big bonuses for being first with true stories, media outlets (especially online ones) have little reason to fact check anymore. A responsible organization would leave the original intact with a warning link pointing to the retraction or correction. But I don't think I'd count CNN (or any of the others for that matter) as a responsible organization.

      Guess I'm stuck getting my news from the Daily Show and Slashdot :)

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  58. How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Elphin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Petrol Direct are the answer to the UK's rising fuel prices - cheap fuel by post, with innovative biofuel products too.

    Check out Petrel(TM) a fuel source made from a mixture of seabird guano, combined with the rendered down, fermented and then distilled corpses of a variety of common gulls, albatrosses and terns.

    And "Vin Diesel" - Made from the foulest and most undrinkable European wines

    Marvellous.

    1. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Ulven · · Score: 1

      I would do, but they seem to have a problem with their ordering system. Obviously lots of interested UK Slashdotters...

    2. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by pklong · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean. "Delivered straight through your letter box" Bye Bye House.

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      Signatures are broken

    3. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by wpiman · · Score: 1
      Wow- only in Germany.

      This story had the chance to break the Godwin's Law record. I am proud that you people have abstained thus far.

    4. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You gotta love how they advertise their leaded petrol (do they even have the right to sell that ?) : "a bit of lead never hurt anyone".

      Oh sure, unless you consider something highly toxic as hazardous (don't get me started on their "Super Leaded"...)

    5. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by shokk · · Score: 1

      Good lord, we're not even done conquering the Middle East and now we've declared war on the animal kingdom for our energy needs! Norway is next!

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    6. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Ibix · · Score: 1
      I would do, but they seem to have a problem with their ordering system. Obviously lots of interested UK Slashdotters...

      The Fuel Lobby - a protest group - are currently picketing refineries in Britain, protesting recent rises in fuel prices. It doesn't seem to have amounted to anything this time (yet), but last time they protested it got to the stage of panic-buying in the supermarkets because their lorries had no fuel (or the drivers were part of the strike) to bring in supplies. Believe me, people will be interested in alternatives today...

      I

    7. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Ulven · · Score: 1

      And just to aggravate things, most of the bus drivers in East Anglia (where I live) have gone on a week long strike.

      Shanks pony to the rescue!

    8. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by jdh28 · · Score: 1

      It just might be a joke...

      john

    9. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by coaxeus · · Score: 0

      Sweet.. i've been looking for an online source for cheap plutonium ? http://www.petroldirect.com/specialist-fuels.htm

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    10. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by figgypower · · Score: 1

      This is very much a joke people. In case you didn't get it when they offered leaded gasoline and "purple disele, just read the About Us page, I quote:


      Just in case you are an American, or possibly drive a car made by Suzuki, we will spell the purpose of Petrol Direct out to you in simple terms. This is a spoof. A parody. We do not sell petrol or any other fuels, and certainly not plutonium or antimatter. Sorry. This site is strictly for laughs only.

    11. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Skynyrd · · Score: 2, Funny

      ust in case you are an American, or possibly drive a car made by Suzuki, we will spell the purpose of Petrol Direct out to you in simple terms. This is a spoof. A parody. We do not sell petrol or any other fuels, and certainly not plutonium or antimatter. Sorry. This site is strictly for laughs only.

      Oh SHIT! I'm an American who drives a Suzuki.

      Wait, it says "GEO" on the back, am I OK?

    12. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Heggsy · · Score: 1

      Well to be fair to the Fuel Lobby, they have repeatedly said that they had no intention of blockading refineries, and were picketing only to draw attention to their situation.

      The panic seemed to start with a government announcement to the effect that it would impose fuel restrictions if necessary.

    13. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You remind me of Adolf Hitler. There. Fuck you, asswipe.

    14. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Old+Wolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You gotta love how they advertise their leaded petrol (do they even have the right to sell that ?) : "a bit of lead never hurt anyone".

      Petrol lead is less toxic than benzene and the dozens of other chemicals that were added to unleaded petrol to replace the lead.

    15. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Petrol lead is less toxic than benzene and the dozens of other chemicals that were added to unleaded petrol to replace the lead."

      "Petrol lead", which is a chemical called tetra ethyl lead , is much, much more toxic than benzene. It is actually about 75-300 times more toxic depending on the LD50 data you use for benzene and tetra ethyl lead

  59. I Predict... by FrankDrebin · · Score: 1

    a new use for the cat detector van.

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  60. Re:Ultimate anti-karma by ScentCone · · Score: 1

    Since you seem extraordinarily gullible, especially as it relates to cats, I highly recommend a visit to Bonsai Kitten.

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  61. come on fellas... by aggieben · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know this is /., but really. "siting"?

    Don't you even have a spell-check you can run on stuff before you post it to the front page? If not a programmatic spell check, how about eyeballing something for about 10 seconds? Something like "siting" should stick out like a sore thumb to you. If it doesn't, maybe you should get someone else to edit...

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    1. Re:come on fellas... by rjstanford · · Score: 1

      Actually, that is a word. It doesn't mean what they think it means, but a simple spell check will pass it on by. Not that I'm suggesting that /. articles are even spell checked, of course, but even if they were, this one would have slipped by.

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  62. The Webcomic Goats predicted this... by tm2b · · Score: 1
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  63. Just like Back to the Future predicted! by mrb000gus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Back to the Future was set in 1985, at the end of the first / beginning of the second movie he travels 30 years into the future, and voila - in 2015 the cars use waste as fuel.

  64. You know what I like about cats? by ifwm · · Score: 0

    Nothing.

    Thanks, I'll be here all week.

  65. misquoted doesn't really fit here.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The story was first run by "Bild", the biggest german yellow press paper, that turned quotes like "we don't care what he does with dead animals" to "what a cruelty!"
    The whole article is utter bullshit, more can be found here.
    Use your favourite babelfish to translate. :)

    1. Re:misquoted doesn't really fit here.. by Bimo_Dude · · Score: 1
      My favourite babelfish-translated quote from your link:

      "that would be also idiotisch," says Krauss, "if it around dead animals goes, then that is no problem of the animal protection!"

      Could Krauss be the new Babel-Yoda?

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  66. s/siting/citing by Rogerborg · · Score: 0

    How you 'editors' made it out of third grade, I'll never fathom.

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  67. Cat fuel by Phibius · · Score: 1

    This is a most welcome development, as Europe (and indeed the West as a whole) are currently guilty of the most shameful under-utilisation of our dead cat reserves. More research should be done in this area - for example, the claws might well make excellent tootpicks, and the flesh of the younger, less muscular specimens might become a useful source of cheap protein for the poor - and this is to say nothing of the possibilities offered by the eyes (road safety anyone?) and other parts. As a final note, apart from the rabbit, this is probably the ultimate in (self) renewable energy sources. My girlfriend's family have a particularly sluttish moggy whose offspring alone could easily both family cars, had we access to such technology.

  68. Biofuels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As somebody who works in the alternative-fuels sector, I can tell you that this story (and its misrepresentation by a tabloid newspaper) are entirely unsurprising. It's possible, with the right processes, to turn pretty much any organic matter into fuel you can run a vehicle on. This is not the challenge; it hasn't been for quite a few years now.

    No, the trick is to find a fuel source which requires little energy and expense to produce and can be converted into usable fuel on an industrial basis through an easily scaled process that does not produce excessive polution on either a global scale (through carbon emissions) or a local level (through factors such as an unbearable smell). There's already good progress being made towards this in Western and Northern Europe. Cats, however, are not now and never will be counted as an attractive bio-fuel.

  69. Re:Ultimate anti-karma by mt-biker · · Score: 1

    This horrific person must have a similar mental illness to that of Hitler, in which he is driven to perform the most terrifying acts against humanity. ...

    I wonder what it is about this country that brings out the worst in the human psyche? Nothing against Germany per se but I do know (from my old German girlfriend) that there are certain pathologies about analysis and logic games that thread the society.


    1 - There were plenty of posts on Slashdot exposing the story as a hoax before you posted. Shame you didn't read them.

    2 - Using dead cats as fuel would not be a crime against humanity any more than using dead dinosaurs is.

    3 - Sad that you feel compelled to compare germans alive today to Hitler. That ex-girlfriend of yours must have done some real damage, eh?

  70. cat... by Petersson · · Score: 1

    cat /lost+found/* > /dev/carburettor

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  71. Obligatory grammar lesson... by GrahamCox · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sigh.

    Siting = choosing the location of something.
    Citing = quoting a reference. I think this is what the original poster was getting at.
    Sighting = seeing something.

    1. Re:Obligatory grammar lesson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      add to that sitting...

    2. Re:Obligatory grammar lesson... by 1u3hr · · Score: 0

      The whole fucking story is a troll, let alone the spelling.

    3. Re:Obligatory grammar lesson... by noidentity · · Score: 1

      "Siting = choosing the location of something.
      Citing = quoting a reference. I think this is what the original poster was getting at.
      Sighting = seeing something."


      Sitting = wasting time reading Slashdot all day

    4. Re:Obligatory grammar lesson... by DirePickle · · Score: 1

      Also important:

      Sitting = the act of resting on one's buttocks.

    5. Re:Obligatory grammar lesson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lesson is in vocabulary, not grammar. An example of a grammar lesson might be an admonition to avoid ending a sentence in a preposition, as in the following:

      "I think this is what the original poster was getting at."

      (Not to be pedantic.)

  72. cats in the compost.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well what else would you do ? dead rats go to compost too. i`m very egalitarian, whatever ends up on dinner plate gets eaten (crocodile and locust, yummi). why should i not throw stuff on compost ? after all, we`re already joking along the line...

    people at the burial institute have an average of 7 burials a week, 3 cremations and 2 compostations - the green party members get older, too...

    still cannot imagine you placing such a high esteem on friggin critters. otherwise you`ld be totally not driving a car, not eating dead animal and hopefully entering a vegetarian asian monastry... after all, we`re all sooner or later reborn as a cat, aren`t we ?

    ever since people started to become removed from the process of killing their meal, they no longer can stand the idea, but eat 4-5 big macs or a big steak... pathetic bunch. wish the bigotists would rather die and leave mother nature alone...

    feel the sarcasm drippin...
    www.vehmt.org
    save earth, take a dive.

  73. Re:Ultimate anti-karma by DoktorTomoe · · Score: 2, Informative

    You, sir, are a sentimental idiot.

    Be informed that Germany is more than Hitler, the girl that dumped you (= Hitlerish) and crazy engineers that are said to kill small furry things for fuel (= Hitlerish).

    Even if Dr. Koch happens to use actual animal bodies for fuel, would you mind if it were bugs, or spiders? Do you know that in Germany it is the law to get your pet dogs'/ cats'body to a "Tierkörperverwertungsanstalt" (roughly translated "Animal corpses processing facility"), where its body is grind up to "Tiermehl" ("Animal wheat") that used to be fed to farm animals before BSE? Now it is burnt for electricity. Yes. that is electricity out of little kitty! BTW, this law is to protect people from diseases of too many corpses laying around.

    What would be the problem in not processing animal cadavers to electricity, but to fuel? Facing energy costs that would feel near to insane to you US guys (we are paying 1,50 per litre for fuel), I greatly appreciate using alternative fuel systems. And the cat population tends to grow! No energy problems for the next few centuries.

    BTW: Actually Dr. Koch uses garbage for fuel. The claim he used cats is made by a german tabliod that is probably funded by our fellow oil companies. Wrecking ones inventions for profit by false claims that outrage the public idiot is quite common in ye ol'de europe.

    This message was typed for your convinience right in the ex-Third Reich.

  74. Liposuction by DFJA · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What happens to the material removed when people have lipsuction? I'd have thought this would be a good source of fuel......

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    1. Re:Liposuction by vidarh · · Score: 1

      Haven't you noticed that special taste your burgers and fries sometimes get? :)

    2. Re:Liposuction by DFJA · · Score: 1

      What, tastes a bit like chicken, you mean?

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  75. Brings a new meaning by riflemann · · Score: 1

    to the term "catalytic convertor"...

  76. pwned by BisexualPuppy · · Score: 1

    ./ has been pwned once again. kekekeke.

  77. Finally by elgatozorbas · · Score: 1

    Finally a solution for the World's excess cat problem... or is it?

  78. It's fake... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    by Beryl
    Look like a tabloid? It is.
    http://www.bildblog.de/wp-content/koch1.jpg
    http://www.bildblog.de/wp-content/katzenbenzin2.jp g
    (images provided by Bild Blog, explained lower)

    And the news is 100% fake with all involved now sueing BILD.

    http://bildblog.de/
    Scroll down and read "Von Katzen und dummen Menschen" (Of Kats and Dumb People)
    (You'll need to learn/know German or use Babelfish)

    The blogers are two journalists that investigate BILD.

    BILD reported bullshit and everyone else just sucks it up as pathetic the fucktards* they are, the dude even has on webpage that's it completely false and he's suing them for all the shit they're causing from years-old research that has nothing to do wiith what he said.

    *Caring only for the shock-effect and not caring about reality, or any annoying thing like that.

    http://www.alphakat.de/index.html

    ""WICHTIGE MITTEILUNG !

    Die im Moment in den deutschen Medien verbreiteten Meldungen Dr. Christian Koch würde Katzenkadaver zu Diesel verarbeiten sind absolut falsch und entbehren jeden Bezug zur Realität.
    Juristische Maßnahmen gegen diese Behauptungen wurden bereits unternommen."

    "Important Notice!

    The news currently being spread by certain a German News Agency concerning me using cat cadavers to produce Diesel is utterly wrong and have nothing to do with reality. I have taken legal steps against these accusations."

    BILD also completely made up the "cited animal rights activists", and the people in question are enraged - and say they don't care how cadavers are treated as the only care about living animals. Duh.

    Bild's also the paper that has titles like MANNER SIND JETZT PORTU-GEIL!!! (Men are now Portu-HORNY!!!" and are plastered with tits every day but Sunday, where they play "innocent Christian"... If you trust them, or even CNN who are about as neutral as Condoleeza Rice, as your only news source...

    We do have human shit powered power plants, though...

  79. Fake or not, but it's possible by WetCat · · Score: 1

    look here http://www.changingworldtech.com/
    Oil from biomass.

  80. And with all that... by dadjaka · · Score: 1

    They couldn't even spell cited right.

    "sited" - yeah right.

  81. For those of you who don't speak German... by samureiser · · Score: 1
    The sugggestion that he actually used cats is fairly well refuted in this English-language Reuters article.
    A spokesman for Bild told Reuters the story was meant to show that cat remains could "in theory" be used to make fuel with Koch's patented method.
    The author of the story said Koch had never told him directly that he had used dead cats as the story implied.
    It would be nice if the post was edited to reflect this important and relevant information... (hint, hint)
  82. Thermal depolymerisation... by andygood · · Score: 2, Informative

    it sounds like...

    This was news a year or so ago. 'Changing World Technologies' I think?! Can't be bothered looking for a link... ;-) Try Mr. Google!

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  83. Per liter by StrawberryFrog · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to the inventor he can produce the biodiesel fuel at the cost of about $0.30 (US) per liter.

    That should read "$0.30 per litter". Typical slashdot editorial laxness!

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  84. Turbines to power... engines to speed by elgatozorbas · · Score: 0

    Catwoman's final blow.

  85. Should be popular with Esso by FoamingToad · · Score: 1

    They'll be able to dig out all their old adverts. The ones that run with the byline "Put a tiger in your tank".

  86. Am I too late? by b00tleg · · Score: 0

    Am I too late to respond with the obvious... is it $0.30 (US) per liter or $0.30 (US) per litter ?

  87. Cat experiments by 21st+Century+Peon · · Score: 1

    Poke some holes in the box.

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  88. Bild writes utter crap every day. by drx · · Score: 1

    About the cat story:
    http://www.bildblog.de/?p=791
    (in german language)

    1. Re:Bild writes utter crap every day. by rk87 · · Score: 1

      For those of you that can't read german, a quick summary of above article: The animal rights activist cited did not actually say that - in fact, she thinks thats perfectly alright. Also, the guy that supposedly invented it did not actually do so, and is suing Bild for libel (as stated on his company's website).

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  89. 102 uses. by ear1grey · · Score: 1

    It seems so obvious, anx yet Simon Bond never predicted it.. I'll bet the engine just purrs* along too. (*sorry).

  90. Much like the Slugbot by loic_2003 · · Score: 1

    This piece of kit is a robot that is powered by slugs. It searches for slugs and places them into it's fermentation pod in order to power itself. The creator said he planned to make a larger model powered by rats that could run about indefinately in the sewers. I'm not sure how far along this project has gotten...

    http://www-robotics.usc.edu/~ikelly/tta.htmlLink

  91. Its Fake folks by shareme · · Score: 1

    Its Fake Folks..

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  92. Interesting to read what he _does_ use... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
    "I use paper, plastics, textiles and rubbish," Koch told Reuters.
    Papers, hehe. I guess that includes the Bild Zeitung ;-) At least now this "publication" can be put to a good use!
  93. I just knew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that urge to harm cats could only lead to good things...

  94. Ladies? by Thorwak · · Score: 0

    Ladies and Gentlemen Allow Me to Introduce the Cat Car

    Really? Where?

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  95. Turkey parts and thermal depolymerization process by boustrophedon · · Score: 1

    That reliable classroom news source for third graders, Scholastic News Edition 3, reported in their April 18, 2005 edition (not archived on-line) that a Long Island (New York, USA) firm converted discarded turkey bones, feathers, and guts into fuel. A quick Google Search led to the Wikipedia description of thermal depolymerization, a process for rendering complex organic material, typically waste, into light crude oil. Turkey parts are more readily available than dead cats.

  96. Why funding? by hummassa · · Score: 1

    There are a lots of stray cats on the streets, and if you live in a metropolis (like I do - 3 million ppl.) chances are that the City already kills -- puts down -- 100s of cats everyday.

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  97. Amazing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a short sixty years, Germany has gone from gassing cats, to having cats produce it.

  98. bad news for chinese restaurants... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    end of monopoly in alternative uses of cats other than the usual pissing on carpets and spreading of rats around the house.

  99. It's a real pussy wagon. by aquabat · · Score: 0

    That's all I wanted to say.

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  100. 203rd use for a dead cat by hardburlyboogerman · · Score: 1

    This looks like a follow up to the 2 books on the uses of a dead cat.(101 uses for a dead cat,101 more uses for a dead cat and the parody, 101 uses for a dead human)
    "Smile and take this with a grain of salt" ;-)

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  101. Disappointed by hcdejong · · Score: 1

    The headline had me anticipating a car powered by a cat and some buttered toast but nooooo....

  102. What's so special about dead cats? by flowerp · · Score: 1

    My car runs on Soylent Green. Green alternative fuel. Totally biodegradable and regenerative. It's just that people need to have more babies to produce enough bio-fuel.

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  103. Green cookies by Rado.hr · · Score: 1, Funny

    It is not the fuel, but green cookies that scare me...

  104. Roads? by vimbuza · · Score: 1

    Where we're going, we don't need roads...

  105. Okay so it's not really about cats... by erroneus · · Score: 1

    ...but let's just say that it was truly about dead cats found on the side of the road.

    Exactly what animal rights (which aren't in the U.S. constitution [can't speak for other nations] as far as I know) are being affected here? They're DEAD. I don't think they care. PeTA be damned you fruit cakes!

  106. Great fuel economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aside from the nice purring sound the fuel only costs $0.30/litter.

  107. Translation of BildBlog article by GroeFaZ · · Score: 0

    Of cats and stupid people

    Yesterday, "Bild" reported:

    [image here with headline: "German inventor can make gasoline out of cats"]

    and okay, in the last paragraph, at the very end of their report, BILD has forgotten a letter 'e' in the surname of quoted animal welfare activist "Annelise Krauß". But even Anneliese Krauß doesn't really mind. However, BILD didn't quote her name just for fun, but together with the following statement:

    "'This is just as evil as cruel animal experiments', fulminates Annelise Krauß of the society for the prevention of cruelty to animals in Dresden."

    And that is total "rubbish", says Krauß when asked about it, because she never fulminated nor even actually made the statemant quoted by BILD. Quite the contrary: "This would be idiotic," says Krauß, "because when it's about dead animals, then it's a non-issue for animal welfare!" In short, the animal welfare activist states about Christian Koch's invention (who, according to BILD, turns cats into gasoline):

    "As far as we are concerned, there is no problem at all."

    And that, by the way, was exactly what she says she told BILD. (But, so Krauß continues, when "Mr. Helfricht", one of the authors of the BILD article, calls her, then she knew from experience that BILD will print things she never said or meant that way. Things have been running this way in Dresden for over ten years, says Krauß. - And that was just the discussion of the first paragraph of the BILD article.

    Let's have a look at the rest, the actual information that "Dr. Christian Koch (55) aus Kleinhartmannsdorf (Saxony)", as BILD states, "can turn cats into gasoline": Even a look at the BILD article reveals that the "gasoline" headline in itself is nonsense, because the article only talks about "Bio-Diesel" or "Diesel". In fact, Koch seems to have found an unusual and effective alternative to producing fuel: the catalytic pressureless oilification (KDV) [ed: not sure about the correct term], about which several other federal and private TV stations and newspapers reported, beginning in 2003 until recently. And all of these other reports have one thing in common: they do justice to the topic they are reporting about, even when reporting critically.

    BILD, however, calls Koch's invention a "special reactor" and prints sentences like the following:

    "The cat power can in theory be calculated exactly: A fully grown 13 pound cat could be turned into 2.5 liters of fuel, four kitties would be enough for 100 kilometers, a full tank would require 20 dead cats."

    And if you just ask the "man who can put the (house) tiger in the tank" (BILD), Christian Koch replies: "the BILD report has nothing to do with the truth and furthermore, it's infinitely stupid". Koch continues:

    "How could you move a vehicle with boiled organic material? Water would immediately stall any engine. Here, the lowest instincts of stupid people are appealed to, just to libel a valuable invention. (...) To imply me handling animal cadavers is criminal. That is not the least the aim of the development and can thus only be regarded as defamation."

    Furthermore, the website of of Koch's company now states:

    [image: "The reports of German media about Dr. Christian Koch turning cat cadavers into Diesel are completely wrong and lack any reference towards reality whatsoever. Legal action has been taken against those statements]

    Thanks to Jan S. for the suggestion.

    Addition, 12:15: Today, BILD has again picked up the "cat power" theme:

    [headline: "May we really turn cats into gasoline?"]

    But even if the article - more cautiosly than yesterday - states, that Christian Koch "could theoretically" produce Bio-Diesel "from cats", even if not Koch, but a competitor, is allowed to adjust yesterday's artificial scandalisation by BILD, even if the animal welfare activists' relaxed position is repeated more correctly and less

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  108. Re:Human Fuel Source? by joib · · Score: 1

    Actually, AFAIK a lot of crematories use the heat from the cremation for hot water, radiators etc. in the building.

    Personally, I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not like the dead care anyway.

  109. Schrodinger's Car? by PinkyDead · · Score: 1

    The cat is dead or alive only when you actually look at the fuel gauge.

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  110. prrr by EEPROMS · · Score: 1

    thats on of them cat powered cars just watch it go when see's that dog powered cars. Grrrrrr Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooow

  111. Schroedinger called... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...he wants his cat back.

    Sorry, I couldn't stop myself.

  112. Motuo Perpetuo by wolvie_cobain · · Score: 0, Redundant

    1. Shrödinger's Cat
    2. Cat powered car
    3. ???
    4. Proffit!!!

  113. That's nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my car runs on dead dinosaurs

  114. You are what you eat? by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 1

    I hate to break this guy's bubble, but wouldn't he get the same, if not more, use out of the cat food, than the cat?

    I'm probably wrong, but it's obvious enough to at least experiment with. Then again, cat food is expensive... I'd rather by 150 octane gas. Maybe dog food?

    If he has to use former-living material as a base, at least use squirrels. Those suckers are everywhere. That, and nobody looks at you (too) funny if you claim to have eaten squirrel. Very in the western cultures claim to eat cats.

    (Give me some credit, I avoided any hamster/wheel jokes.)

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  115. Byproduct by Spacejock · · Score: 1

    I don't mind feeding dead cats into my car, but do I really have to put a tray of kitty litter under the muffler every night?

    By the way, some parts of Australia have a really bad feral cat problem, and they kill off the native wildlife like you wouldn't believe. One guy has a solution: he fences off a large piece of land and shoots all the cats inside the fence. As a sideline he sells catskin hats (Like a frontiersman's hat, complete with the dangling tail. I assume the studded collar and bell are optional extras)

  116. must consider taxes when comparing!! by adrianmonk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    TFA says he

    can produce what he calls the "bio-diesel" fuel at about 23 euro cents (30 cents) a liter, which is about one-fifth the price at petrol stations now.

    Which is fine, but that's a meaningless comparison. In the United States, the tax on gasoline is a huge percentage, and I've heard that in some places in Europe, up to 80% of the money you're paying at the pump goes to taxes, and as little as 20% of it goes to the actual cost of fuel. If this is true, that obliterates his factor of 5 right there.

    Can anyone in Germany comment on what percentage of the money that you pay at the pump goes to taxes? One site I found indicates the tax on diesel was 47.04 euro cents per liter in 2003 and 65.45 euro cents per liter on gasoline, but the chart on that site is hard to read and unclear.

    But let's just assume that figure is accurate and compare things taking into account taxes. The article says it costs him 23 euro cents to produce a liter, and that regular diesel costs 5 times that much at the pump. That means you pay about 115 euro cents at the pump. If his biodiesel were subject to the same taxes, and if it were free to store it and transport it and there were no markup at all anywhere from manufacturing all the way to retail sales, then his biodiesel would be 70 cents per liter. So, what you pay at the pump right now is only 1.6 times as much as the minimum his fuel could ever really cost if it were sold at the pump, not 5 times as much.

    1. Re:must consider taxes when comparing!! by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Look at the entire economic situation, and you get a different picture.

      What is the cost of otherwise disposing of the waste you are converting to fuel? You're taking a product that cost money to dispose of, and making it a valuable commodity.

      How much money does the average small community spend on sewage treatment chemical? How much do they spend to run the school busses every day? Are those chemicals an environmental disaster waiting to happen? Locally, we have schools announcing that they might have to shut down due to fuel shortages caused by Katrina. Now, what is the economics if removing the infrastructure for handling those dangerous chemical and getting enough fuel to run the school busses to boot? How about when you add in the cost of maintaining the county dump?

      I'm not an environmentalist by any stretch of the imagination. I couldn't care less if a flower that only grows in one small patch in California goes extinct, but I don't defecate in my bed or throw trash out my back door, either. Our modern society produces mountains of trash that need disposal. Our modern society has a nearly insatiable thirst for transportable fuel. A device that would assuage both problems at the same time is a clear way to profit. Of course, then the question is, "Are we making money selling diesel fuel, or are we making money as a trash disposal company?"

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  117. Outraged! by pointbeing · · Score: 1

    As president of the North American Man-Cat Love Association, I'm horrified at the idea that anyone would use these beautiful animals in a way other than nature intended.

    I mean, masturbation is bad enough. Think of the kittens!

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  118. No dead cats, gargbage! by unsupported · · Score: 1

    From reading the Reuters article the inventor said that a German newspaper falsely reported that dead cats can be used. The inventor was never really quoted about using dead cats. He said it was quite possible that it would work. However, he has never used animals, except for maybe a frog that jumped in the mixture.

    -un

    But then again, I'm bitter for not having my correct version of the story accepted.

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    1. Re:No dead cats, gargbage! by tommten · · Score: 0
      I'd like to use my gargbags for pan-galactic gargleblasters as intended for..

      and remember.. no cats we're killed in the production of the gargbags (tm) although the occasional human might have jumped in

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  119. License Plates by dsginter · · Score: 5, Funny

    I bet the inventor has a vanity license plate on his car that reads:

    I8URCAT

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    1. Re:License Plates by foniksonik · · Score: 5, Funny

      If it was me I'd rather have the plate:

      I8URPSY

      just a personal preference...

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    2. Re:License Plates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I've never used cats and would never think of that. At most the odd toad may have jumped in."

      Therefore perhaps:

      "TOADED"

      or

      "ODTOADOT" (ODD TOAD OUT)

      Come to think of it, neither of those are funny, I need bumpersticker space to be funny, like:

      "Don't jump in the garbage because I'll ground you into fuel, then I'll drive to your house and make love to your wife."

      or

      "Soylent Fuel - it's made out of people - and it's damn cheap"

      or (and this is really bad)

      "Asian people give me better gas mileage"

  120. It all makes sense by hndrcks · · Score: 1

    If Toonces is driving the car!

    http://www.catass.com/toonces/

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  121. A mini-rant... by pla · · Score: 1

    First of all, this topic comes from the German equivalent of the National Enquirer. No one needs to point that out (again) in response to this post.

    But what the hell kind of twisted disconnect does modern society have when the thought of actually using corpses (of cats, dogs, even people) for something useful absolutely horrifies us, yet at the same time we can walk into a McDonalds and take our pick from a selection of (at least) four different species of corpse-on-a-bun?

    Hell, I don't eat meat, yet see no problem with turning rotting carcases into oil. How can anyone who condones factory meat production (which includes the vast majority of people) not also deal with doing something useful with the waste parts?

  122. Roadkill Cafe by DaoudaW · · Score: 1

    This could have a strong impact on the restaurant industry in the mountain west where many cafes rely on roadkill as their source of meat.

  123. From yesterday's followup Bild article... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
    Bild: Would overweight cats yield more fuel?
    Andreas: The discussion is extraneous, as there are too few pets. Their part in the total amount of butchering waste is negligible.

    Yes, using fatcats for fuel is out of the question, but pigs and cows would be ok!

  124. Obvious next step by CubicleView · · Score: 1

    Install a ram scoop on the front of the vehicle!

  125. NEW NEW NEW! by wowbagger · · Score: 1

    NEW! Straight from the German Autobahns! High-octane Soylent Green! Add some whorespower to your engine with new Soylent Green!

    And as an added benefit, you get to use the HOV lane!

  126. 101 Uses for a Dead Cat. by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anybody else remember that old, slightly disturbing book?

    Probably came out about 20 years ago.

    I guess it's outdated, now.

    102 Uses for a Dead Cat?

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    1. Re:101 Uses for a Dead Cat. by CrazyTalk · · Score: 2, Informative

      yep, as a well-known cat hater amongst my peers, I received the book for a birthday present in 1982.

    2. Re:101 Uses for a Dead Cat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Pencil sharpener.

  127. Where can I buy one of these? by mboos · · Score: 1

    That kind of car would be perfect for the bumper sticker I have: "Lost your cat? Try looking under my tires"

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    1. Re:Where can I buy one of these? by Stingr · · Score: 1

      Except it would have to be amended to read:

      "Lost your cat? Try looking in my gas tank."

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  128. Funerals? by mosb1000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That means it could also offset the cost of a funeral. Cremation is much too expensive, and you don't really get anything in return. This way, you can actually make money while dealing with your beloved family members remains. I'll bet your 250 lb mother could make more than 20 gal of bio-diesel.

    1. Re:Funerals? by kesuki · · Score: 1

      Soylent Gasoline is made FROM PEOPLE...

    2. Re:Funerals? by Kozz · · Score: 2, Informative

      IANAScientist, but ...

      20 gallons from a 250lb carcass/cadaver? That sounds like an incredibly high number. I think you'd be really lucky to get five.

      Seriously, if you were to "liquefy" remains immediately upon death, pour them into jugs, I don't think you could get 20 gallons. Now if you're talking about cooking to render out the oils and fats, you'd better cut out at least 70% of the non-bio-diesel product.

      (If the poster's goal was to be funny, it was lost on other moderators and myself. If it was to be "interesting", I think the poster hasn't thought this through very much. )

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    3. Re:Funerals? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you've got a good way to put the "Fun" back into Funeral!

    4. Re:Funerals? by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      The human body and the earth's surface are comprised of about 70% water. So...do the math on how much your morbidly obese relatives will net you.

    5. Re:Funerals? by khallow · · Score: 1

      Well, it would work out to be almost 30 gallons of fluid. Most of that would be (as noted elsewhere) water.

    6. Re:Funerals? by whitis · · Score: 1

      Seriously, one of the first things I thought about was if it can do cats it could do people and that might be a good thing. In the US, what are my alternatives when I die? Being pumped full of toxic chemicals, put in an expensive box that uses material and energy resources, and burried in the ground or being cremated which uses a lot of fuel when done individualy. Both are environmentally bad and will be worse when fuel is scarce. Just digging a hole and dumping my body in without toxins and letting it decompose in the normal amount of time doesn't seem to be an option here legally. On the other hand, you don't want people or animals being killed to produce fuel in a shortage. No idea how many nasty chemicals are used in his process and whether any disease organisms can survive but TDP is said to even be able to destroy mad cow prions that survive incineration. As long as there is no foul play, I don't have a problem with the idea of soylent diesel. Paren't posters yield calculations were way off, though; the body is mostly water.

    7. Re:Funerals? by awkScooby · · Score: 1
      Just think -- whole new line of "your mamma" jokes just just waiting to be born...

      Your mamma's so fat, she could fuel a flight from D.C. to San Fransisco


      round trip.

    8. Re:Funerals? by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 1

      Just digging a hole and dumping my body in without toxins and letting it decompose in the normal amount of time doesn't seem to be an option here legally.


      Not sure were "here" is, but in the US, and the UK, embalming before burial is optional.

      Do your relatives a favor and ask for a cheap casket and no-embalming in your will.

      -- Should you believe authority without question?
    9. Re:Funerals? by tjernobyl · · Score: 1

      I don't have the stats in front of me, but I recall it being something like 35% recoverable oil by weight. So more like 12 gallons, 20-25$.

  129. Schroedinger? by jimand · · Score: 1

    So Schrödinger will never know if his car will start?

  130. Other cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmm....
    Batmobile
    Jaguar
    Pinto
    Mustang
    my favorite... the Hummer

  131. In the US, the oil industry is subsidized by brokeninside · · Score: 1

    Estimates range from twenty cents to a buck fifty in subsidies per gallon of gasoline. The subsidies come in the form form of grants, no-interest loans, tax breaks, and other incentives for oil exploration, pipeline building, refinery expansion and other activities.

    I don't know about Europe, but it seems to me that one ought to take any subsidies into account before one starts trying to calculate the ``true'' cost of gasoline.

  132. Thermal Depolymerization & Turkey Waste by Zobeid · · Score: 1

    Just Google for "thermal depolymerization" or "changing world technologies" and you'll find the American approach to this technology -- currently using turkey parts.

    Some interesting points to observe. . .

    The test plant is producing some kind of oil that they can successfully sell -- but they aren't producing profit. Problem one is, they aren't getting the tax break they expected, since what they make doesn't officially qualify as a bio-fuel (it's too similar to real crude oil?). Problem two is that they expected feeding of turkey parts to livestock would be banned, to prevent the spread of disease. It wasn't, so now they have to pay for the turkey waste instead of being paid to haul it off.

    An extremely foul (not to mention fowl) odor was reported coming from the plant. I've read from one source that the odor may not have been caused by the refining process, but they were kind of vague about what actually caused it and whether it could be suppressed.

    A noted expert (sorry I don't remember his name) in the field of industrial chemical recycling has called the whole "thermal depolymerization" concept a fantasy, a hoax, a scam. He said they are merely rendering animal fat from the turkeys and then portraying it to the public as something akin to transmuting lead into gold.

  133. FINALLY! by Perdition · · Score: 1

    finally...a use for cats

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  134. The Reg has an article which refutes this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  135. Greatest. Sentence. Ever. by The+Infidel · · Score: 1
    But the president of the German Society for the Protection of Animals, Wolfgang Apel, said using dead cats for fuel was illegal.
  136. Already invaded by nigral · · Score: 1

    Germany was invaded by americans long ago.
    You are about 50 years late. I don't know if you ever heard about something nicknamed WWII. The americans invaded germany (this time they actualy had quite good reasons to do so) and created some base and now they are still there.
    So technicaly, it is still invaded.

    Nigral

  137. The China Angle? by killercoder · · Score: 1

    First China was harvesting skin of executed political prisinors, now they can use them for fuel?
    I sense a shift in the political balance of power.
    I'm pretty certain if it works with Cats it works with people.
    Killer

  138. Wake me up when there's a Kennedy car... by DerProfi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Surely there's enough biodiesel (and other flammable liquids) in that useless windbag Ted Kennedy's carcass to power an inner-city bus for several years. And as an added bonus, onen could keep Robert F. Jr. in the trunk as an "auxiliary fuel tank", as it were.

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  139. Shift of power by kniLnamiJ-neB · · Score: 1

    ...and so it was that Chinese restaurants became the downfall of the big oil industry.

    -Me, in the future to my grandkids

    DISCLAIMER: I like Chinese food. I eat it about once a week.

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  140. How much? by withears · · Score: 0

    $0.30 per liter or $0.30 per litter?

  141. Shouldn't that be "carcass rights activists" then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Needless to say many animal rights activists are upset by this development, and some are saying that it is illegal to use animals for this purpose in Germany.

    As the "animals" actually already are carcasses in the first place, I do not think that animal rights activists need to be concerned.

    Oh, AND the story is complete bullshit. But that's only thanks to BILD, Germany's worst tabloid. Nice to see how the U.S. media is picking up these stupid stories, though... :-)

  142. Misquoted the article? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did they actually mean $0.30 per liter, or $0.30 per litter...?

  143. Response to Troll by QMO · · Score: 1

    "Can you point me in the direction of a single instance of Michael Moore lying or exagurating something bad that Bush has done?"

    On the off-chance that you are serious about your request, I include this link found with a simple google search. Sorry that I didn't persevere to find a link to a SINGLE instance as requested.

    http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-i n-Fahrenheit-911.htm

    Disclaimer: This post is meant to assist the google-challenged. I do not endorse the site linked above, or guarantee in any way the accuracy of the material presented there.

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    1. Re:Response to Troll by Threni · · Score: 2, Informative

      They were all addressed on his webpage ages ago. Do keep up.

      > I do not endorse the site linked above, or guarantee in any way the accuracy of
      > the material presented there.

      For good reason - it's inaccurate.

    2. Re:Response to Troll by QMO · · Score: 1

      At least you've convinced me that your request for evidence of Moore's deception wasn't serious. Thanks for clearing that up.

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    3. Re:Response to Troll by Threni · · Score: 1

      You're drawing poor conclusions from the available data. I hear a lot of people knocking Michael Moore, but I've seen nothing other than mud slinging, presumably by people who are sympathetic to the people he criticizes. Less ad-homimems, more facts please. Failing that, shut the fuck up.

  144. Blend by Nosferax · · Score: 0

    Now instead of regular, super and extra you get tabby, callico and persian...

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  145. Mileage by thewiz · · Score: 0

    Anyone know how many meows-per-gallon you'd get?

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  146. And if you can't read German by GroeFaZ · · Score: 0

    look here for the translation.

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  147. Forever! by QMO · · Score: 1

    And here I was just thinking that we'd finally solved the problem of perpetual roadkill.

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  148. I wonder if it will run on catskins by kzinti · · Score: 1
  149. Ummmm... by jav1231 · · Score: 1

    "Needless to say many animal rights activists are upset by this development, and some are saying that it is illegal to use animals for this purpose in German"
    I found that odd. Better to leave the roadkill on the road? Or better to bury them once we put the THOUSANDS to sleep each year so their little souls can rest in peace? "You know me, Marge! I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my roadkill LEFT ON THE ROAD!"

  150. erm units please by tim_abell · · Score: 2, Funny

    Shouldn't that be 30 cents per litter?

    (I'm english, it's spelt litre here, so I mis-read the article anyway)

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  151. Just don't look at the speedometer... by benhocking · · Score: 0

    and you should be fine.

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  152. Biodiesel is way cheaper than cat carcasses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I make biodiesel now for a LOT less than $0.30/liter (appx $1.15/gallon) by using old Fryolator grease. I have a friend that runs several restaurants and instead of him paying $0.30/gallon for a company to come dispose of his old grease, I take it off his hands for free and react it in my toolshed. I make so much of the stuff that I have to use it for cleaning supplies (it does wonders on laundry), to fuel hurricane lamps (a lot more romantic than a lightbulb, not that most /.ers have much need for romance, it seems) and for my camp stove. See www.journeytoforever.org for more information.

  153. Re:Dead animal fuel (using BSE cows) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yes but then you would get mad car disease.

  154. Why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One day we'll be harvesting limbs and organs from human clone farms. Why not use dead cats to fuel our cars?

  155. What a waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a waste of good food

  156. cat diesel power by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 1


    This is NOT new, cat engines have been around since the early 1900s. An example from cat.com: "The Cat Engines used in our generator sets are designed for long life before overhaul."

  157. Mr. Fusion? by tradjik · · Score: 1

    "No, no, no. This sucker's electrical, but I need a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 jigawatts of electricity I need." Or apparently just a pile of garbage and a few dead cats.

  158. I can see where this is going.... by ajservo · · Score: 1

    I'll be driving down the road, and I'll start hearing the meow mix jingle in my car.

    Then I'll realize that I need a tuneup.

  159. 3400 dead cats! by sinneb · · Score: 1

    From TFA: Koch already drove 170000 km using this mixture.

    Its 20 dead cats in 50 litres. 50 Litres will take his car at max 1000 km.

    Koch has used over (170 * 20) 3400! dead cats to drive his car 4,25 times round the earths equator

  160. You mean: Please don't invade us... again. by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    Might be a bit of a downer, to be conquered no less then three times by the same country.

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    1. Re:You mean: Please don't invade us... again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Might be a bit of a downer, to be conquered no less then three times by the same country.

      Well, that depends on the circumstances. Being invaded while the country is ruled by a sick dictatorship that basically thinks it can fight against the whole world at once is actually OK for me... :)

  161. "live chicken leftover" = ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    an egg

  162. Slight misread... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I first read that, I read it as $0.30 per litter. Ooops

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    From IMDB:
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  164. Re:Inventor misquoted? - Link included by heller · · Score: 1

    Not only was he "misquoted", he never even made any statements to the effect. The quote was entirely fictious. Here's the Reuters story: Inventor: I never used dead cats for fuel

  165. Shows how much CNN sucks these days by Lorphos · · Score: 1

    They copy wrong stuff from Germany's worst newspaper. Shame on them.

  166. Warum nicht? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sie bildeten Seife und Lampen von den Juden, eine Katze sollten kein Problem sein.

  167. Chicken Shit by rjstanford · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm curious what a "live chicken leftover" looks like

    Er, that'd be shit, Jaw. I wouldn't recommend investigating it too closely in volume, but maybe that's just me.

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  168. car powered by cat matrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds a little bit more primitive than the idea I had a while back about powering a car using a matrix for cats. Throw a bunch of cats in the trunk, hook them up to a computer and have them living in a dream world. You know liquify the dead, that sort of thing.

  169. Bring out your dead! by Stunning+Tard · · Score: 1

    *clank*

  170. Soylent Diesel is....Cats!!! by Blackjax · · Score: 1

    Soylent Diesel is....Cats!!!

  171. ok by darmey · · Score: 0
    Needless to say many animal rights activists are upset by this development, and some are saying that it is illegal to use animals for this purpose in Germany.
    Ok, let's spare the cats and use animal rights activists instead
  172. Rendering... by Forbman · · Score: 1

    Illegal? Then it's gotta be illegal to render slaugherhouse byproducts into cosmetics, soap, glue, tallow, lard, "animal protein byproduct", collagen, keratin, etc. in Germany, too.

    All he probably needs to do to get his supply of dead cats (and presumably, dogs) is get the leftovers from the veterinarians and animal shelters in his area.

    Hey, I've been known to go out and pull dead cats off of the road, just because I don't like seeing housecats that have been run over turned into red smears. I avoid driving over them, at the very least.

    But once it's dead, it's dead. It's far different to recycle already dead cats than to go out and kill them just to fuel your car, but in the long run, if the guy was doing this, he'd actually probably be doing his neighborhood good, at least from a naturalist's point of view. Cats are pretty efficient wild bird removers...

    Now that we have two barn cats running outside, we don't have too many birds coming to our bird feeders now (it's that, or West Nile has killed them off. Why won't WN kill off the starlings and grackles, though?).

    I'm not quite to the "Ted Nugent" level of self-absorption, er, self-actualization, er, I mean, resource recovery. I don't have the heart yet to skin a dead lamb, either to keep the skin as a memento, or to use the skin to try and graft another lamb onto the dead lamb's mother during lambing season. But it is part of the business, and will need to eventually.

    If it was feasible to do this, at least in the US in most areas there's a plentiful supply of roadkill cats, oppossums, raccoons and skunks, at the very least.

  173. Ignore your car. Mod your house by Kent_Franken · · Score: 1

    This article makes a great point (for homeowners). You may want to think about investing in reducing energy costs in your house, rather than investing in your transportation (anyway, a car is not an investment; a house is). There may be a larger payback for you - more bang for the buck if you mod your house.

  174. Are you serious? by Descalzo · · Score: 1

    There are lies and there are lies. There are lies of commission and lies of ommission. Moore doesn't "lie" (tell outright statements that can be disproven) but he certainly has no interest whatsoever in the truth.

    --
    I cried real tears when Li Mu Bai died.
    1. Re:Are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck your "truth"

      it seems all you care about is outright diversionary tactics while the fact remains that america is a an oppressed peopel drowning in death and poverty.

      im no longer fooled by SUVs and your fat tourists.

      i used to hate you guys. your loud ass rude types. thanks to the internet broadening my horizons now i just feel sorry for you.

    2. Re:Are you serious? by m50d · · Score: 1

      Example. Give an example. Then we have some basis for discussion.

      --
      I am trolling
  175. He uses run-over cats... conflict of interest? by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2, Funny

    The article says that he used 'run-over cats' among other ingredients. So where does he get these cats from? Seeing one scurrying across the road, and noticing the fuel needle hovering near the empty mark, wouldn't you be tempted to swerve and make yourself some free fuel?

    Perhaps the mark II will have 'fuel scoops' fitted on the front. And if this invention is adapted for larger diesel engines as used in railway locomotives, the cow-catcher could take on a slightly different purpose.

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    -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
    1. Re:He uses run-over cats... conflict of interest? by Monkier · · Score: 1

      the icon beside the needle would have to changed from a gas/petrol pump, to a hello kitty with crosses for eyes..

  176. Eureka! by nukeade · · Score: 1

    1) Install cat scooper on the front of the car.
    2) Install cat fuel machine inside car.
    3) Drive
    4) Profit!!!

    And to think I've been running them over for free for all these years!

    ~Ben

  177. Pussy Wagon by SuperGrut · · Score: 1

    So that is why they call it the Pussy Wagon. I thought Tarrantino was referring to something else.

    --
    The city is being overrun by a herd of Lucy Liu's.
  178. This is why we cannot trust the media by raddan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Reuters picks up a story from BILD, a tabloid, and then runs it? Fine, if Reuters wants to get their inspiration from a tabloid, whatever, but didn't they do any fact-checking at all? Apparently not! Even worse, CNN reran this story, also apparently unchecked, from Reuters!

    That's TWO major media outlets that did ZERO fact-checking!

    And now, to prove my tinfoil hat is still working-- is it really that much of a stretch to suggest that some oil industry PR firm planted this story? Sure, I may be way off-base, but I think I've earned the right to speculate wildly considering that two major news outlets simply printed untruths.

    1. Re:This is why we cannot trust the media by A_Known_Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      TFA on CNN didn't base its story on the tabloid one. It seems to have done an independent investigation and is reporting that the tabloid got facts wroing per an interview with the inventor.

      Please RTFA next time

    2. Re:This is why we cannot trust the media by raddan · · Score: 1
      BERLIN, Germany (Reuters)

      You RFTA! Reuters!

    3. Re:This is why we cannot trust the media by raddan · · Score: 1
      The original story linked to by Slashdot is no longer there. It was this one.

      Notice that the story has changed. Think about it for a second. Does the Slashdot editorial blurb make sense with the current story linked to?

      Obviously, CNN realized their mistake, and printed Reuters' "retraction".

      I stand by my orignal flame about CNN and Reuters doing no fact-checking.

  179. In other news... by clickety6 · · Score: 1

    ... Shell and BP open new petrol stations located conveniently close to local graveyards...

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  180. Dead cat bounce by barfomar · · Score: 1

    So many vehicles, so few cats.

  181. Kentucky Fried Chicken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Now I'm curious what a "live chicken leftover" looks like ;-)

    You have visited a "Kentucky Fried Chicken" before right ?

  182. Why does the mind add letters? by jeff79m · · Score: 1

    Was that $.30 per liter or litter?

  183. Garfield by meadam35 · · Score: 1

    Would a larger cat give you better Cats/Mile?

  184. Re:Obligatory semantics lesson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sigh.

    Grammar = the syntactic rules of a language (e.g. the correct usage of nouns, adjectives, and verbs)
    Semantics = the linguistic meaning of the sentence. I think this is what the parent was getting at.

  185. Clearly Sensationalist Journalism by ianchaos · · Score: 1

    Here is a link to a CNN article showing how this inventor never intended that dead cats be used as fuel. Pure sensationalism from a tabloid journal...what a suprise.

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    What can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
  186. Come on by Zebra_X · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did the moderator even read the first line of the article - "Inventor denies dead cat fuel story".

    The post is completely inaccurate.

    1. Re:Come on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CNN replaced the story sometime this morning. The original story was in tune with the post.

  187. In the comics.... by wduffee · · Score: 1

    Jeffrey Rowland already described this in WIGU!

    Of course, he didn't actually have to kill the cats first. But we're getting there...technology will catch up someday.

  188. Viz has been here already... by Bazman · · Score: 1
  189. Fuel Lobby? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    In capitalist United States, the fuel lobby protects rises in fuel oil.

    1. Re:Fuel Lobby? by surprise_audit · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I guess they've gotta be pissed about what Brazil is doing, then. According to a program I saw parts of on TV last night, Brazil is near enough self-sufficient fuel-wise, making alcohol from sugar cane (or was that beets?) to supplement oil-based gasoline. At the time the program was made, Brazil was turning out enough alcohol per year to be able to reduce their oil consumption by over 400 million barrels.

      Or maybe the whole country got stinking drunk for a year and didn't drive at all, thereby saving gas...

    2. Re:Fuel Lobby? by computechnica · · Score: 1

      Is that why they are cutting down the rain forrests, to make room for crops for cars????

    3. Re:Fuel Lobby? by Strider-BG · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, it was Modern Marvels on the History channel about sugar.

      During the oil crisis Brazil invested heavily in sugar production to make ethanol. They also worked with GM such that all GM cars made in Brazil are flex-fuel. They can run off 100% ethanol, 100% gas, or anything in between.

      They said that they're moved from 90% dependence on foreign oil to 15%. You still need gas for chilly mornings so the cars have a small gas-only tank and then switches to pure ethanol after it's warm.

      They were showing prices and ethanol was less than half the cost of gas. They also had a government mandate in the 80's that all fuel stations must carry gas, ethanol, and diesel. Much easier to solve the distribution problem that way.

      Personally I'm a diesel/bio-diesel fan as I prefer the power characteristics and because ethanol in the US is made from corn by ADM who are decidedly evil but renewables of any stripe are a step in the right direction.

    4. Re:Fuel Lobby? by Lord+Kestrel · · Score: 1

      Who/What is ADM, and how are they evil?

  190. What do you want to bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that the Bush administration is going to sell AlphaKat a lot of bodies from New Orleans for fuel? Forget "soylent green", what about 'Regular or Undeaded"? No, I'm not joking. I really do think that the Bush administration is low enough to do something like this.

  191. Expensive. by forringer · · Score: 1
    In many parts of the US you can get waste veggitable oil for free. Methonol cost about $3 a gallon at race tracks (used to be less, but katrina ...). And lye is cheap at soap making shops. Based on the formula for biodiesel (that works almost every time w/o titration):

    3 gallons of waste oil (free)
    0.75 gallons of methanol ($2.25)
    3.5 ounces of lye (~$0.25)

    Total cost: $2.50 for 3 gallons of biodiesel. This equates to $0.22 per liter.

    For more info search biodiesel.infopop.cc

    1. Re:Expensive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to keep your units roughly right, $0.22 per liter is roughly 90 cents a gallon. Which is what gas should be if we didn't have "highway taxes" on it that aren't spent on highways and retards in charge of Iraq and calibou-fuckers trying to keep us out of Alaska.

      What's with the extensive process and methanol that you biodiesel nuts like so much ?

      If you get an older diesel, you don't have to do shit to the grease except filter it and warm it.

      I think you youngsters just like cooking stuff up because it makes you feel more subversive, maybe because you associate it with moonshine and drug making. Also, you all drive those crappy over-engineered german diesels, with all the nuts and bolts being between-sizes. There is only so much work you can do on a motor with only the adjustable wrench.

      My grand dad owned a 1920 Titan tractor. It had 2 cylinders 8 inches in diameter, and giant all-metal wheels -- you may have seen one in a museum or in a parade. (He sold it to a collector who restored it.) At the time it was sold, many farmers were reluctant to switch away from mules in our area, because if you ran out of money you could always graze the mules, hunt and garden to eat, and still plant next year's crop; the industrial way left you to where a bad year could force you to mortgage just to repair and fuel fo the next crop.

      As a result, the Titan and several tractors of that era were marketed on the varied fuel they could run on. The titan had a level on the "carburator" (a frying pan like contraption with about 4 parts) with notches marked for "lamp oil" "kerosene" and "gasoline". The literature that came with it said it could be made to run on "anything that would both flow and burn", and gave examples: rancid butter, corn oil, whiskey, a slurry of bacon fat and coal, etc.

      Get yourself a nice old smoky hippy-poisoning diesel F-150 from about the mid-80s. Or a 1982 VW Rabbit. Expect to clean the injectors once a year, and just filter the stuff, warm it to dry out the water, cut it half-and-half if it's heavy, and pour it in and ride. If you are a yankee you might need to add an aftermarket tank warmer, or just only ride cheap in the summer.

      Oh, and even if you turn up your nose at all that -- note that the most expensive portion of your 3 gallons is methanol. Even if you insist on methanol instead of ethanol or a methanol-ethanol mixture, it's pretty easy to produce that yourself, especially given you are producing "fuel grade" and don't worry about blindness. Heck, you can even file for and get a "variance certificate" from the ATF and do it legally.

      The key to producing high-grade ethanol or methanol is to keep the exit of the condenser hot enough so that what you don't want can't condense. Rather than being an art of adjusting wood fires and cooling with splashes of water and so on, these days you can clamp soldering irons to the various parts of the condenser and hook them up through those X-10 devices to a computer that turns them on and off and keeps it at just the right temperature. If you want, you can set up 3 exits from your condenser -- methanol, ethanol, and water (steam). This is a simpler version of the tall tube "refractor distillers" used in refineries -- if you have several biodiesel nuts to want to pool their money, you can buy or build that too, and produce in larger quantities.

      But trading 3 dollar/gal gasoline for 3 dollar/gal methanol plus a lot of trouble doesn't make sense.

  192. Hey Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody actually found a use for cats!

  193. He's German... by kentyman · · Score: 1

    It's:

    I8URKAT

    --
    You know where you are? You're in the $PATH, baby. You're gonna get executed!
    1. Re:He's German... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      You did say German:

      I8URSKAT

    2. Re:He's German... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you take the time to especially point that he's german, you should also know that there are no such things as vanity-plates in germany.
      those are only for americas to push their ego...

    3. Re:He's German... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he's German, he can't have vanity plates, at least not on a German-registered car.

  194. Who accepted this story? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    OK being /., i supposed to see a car made from legos that looked like a cat... or a cat-shaped car running linux, or something...

    but a fake story? :(

    This is a bad year for Slashdot...

  195. The Matrix by awch · · Score: 1

    Is this how the Matrix starts? How long until the cars realize that live humans offer an unlimited supply of fuel?...

  196. Live chicken leftover by HermanAB · · Score: 1

    It's an egg of course.

    --
    Oh well, what the hell...
    1. Re:Live chicken leftover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference between kinky and sick:

      Kinky = Using a feather

      Sick = Using the whole chicken

    2. Re:Live chicken leftover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats the difference between Kinky and Erotic. Erotic is to use the feather. Kinky is to use the whole damn chicken.

  197. cat bild /dev/null by HermanAB · · Score: 1

    There are many uses for cat. It is one of the most used utilities - right up there with the likes of ls and echo. Running a car on cat is a bit of a stretch though.

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    Oh well, what the hell...
  198. Dead dinosaurs by HermanAB · · Score: 1

    Well, we have been running cars on dead dinosaurs for a century, so what is so special about cats? ;-)

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    Oh well, what the hell...
  199. exhaust? by sickmtbnutcase · · Score: 1

    Defnitely gives new meaning to the term "cat-back".

  200. Wrong by chrisnewbie · · Score: 2, Informative

    IT reads that the guy denied using cats but uses trash, plactics and other waste product,,no way it said cats,,it was a rumor.

    We are more close to Back to the future than we think.
    I have enough baby diaper full of crap to power a shuttle

  201. IGNORE THAT, PLEASE by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

    I posted my oh-so-clever comment about two seconds before reading the exact same thing further down. My bad.

    --
    Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  202. What cats, you liars. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article linked in the post states that the dead cat thing is bullshit made up by a tabloid.

  203. Hearken the fall of Slashdot from its old glory by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    I don't know which is the best example of poor journalistic integrity: Bild newspaper for concocting the "dead cat" story or Slashdot for repeating it. It seems like a daily occurrence that I tell myself to find a new geek news forum.

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    I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
  204. How about dead monkeys? by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

    Can I use those?

    We Transhumans would like to know. Soylent Green never appealed to us.

    --
    Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
  205. Check this baby out! by blueforce · · Score: 1

    I can see it now.

    "Hey, Bob! Come check this out - Just bought it. 8 cylinders. Listen to that baby purr! Yep, $22-5 out the door; Catnip supercharger; 3 year / 36000 hairball warranty. Got a great deal on it - you oughta think about trading in that heap of yours too!"

    --
    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  206. Grandpa's new units of Measurement by Yanray · · Score: 1

    I get 10 rods to the dead cat and that's the way I like it.

    --
    --"Sorry for the inconvience." Gods Last Words to his Creation
    DNA, So Long and Thanks for all the Fish
  207. Lesson: Read slow by Triple+Click · · Score: 1

    According to the inventor he can produce the biodiesel fuel at the cost of about $0.30 (US) per liter.

    I originally thought that $0.30 a litter was a pretty raw deal.

  208. This doesn't sound so new to me by rnturn · · Score: 1

    I first heard of an idea similar to this on The Prairie Home Companion many years ago. It was for a ``roadkill-powered vehicle''. Perfect for trips through the northwoods. (Such a vehicle would have come in handy when I lived in S. Ohio; the dead 'possum supply was seemingly endless.) The drawback to the vehicle's power source was that you often had to take a different route home or wait for a few days for the roadkill to be replentished. I wonder if Garrison Keillor will receive any royalties from these German inventors?

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    CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M
  209. Cats? What are they thinking? by dapic · · Score: 1

    Why the heck don't they just use mice directly?

  210. No actual cats by AndyG314 · · Score: 1

    We seem to all be weary of alternitive fule. It's like we think it's a good idea, but nobody actually expects it to work. Here somebody makes a machene that can make fule from our wast, and all we can do is insinuate he does it with dead animals.

    --
    If it's dead, you killed it.
  211. Make that 102 by sbillard · · Score: 1
  212. Least Harm Principle by Jackboot · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wonder if the animal rights activists that are objecting to this possibility of making biodiesel from dead cats are really considering the relatvie costs in animals harmed in the production of feline diesel and petrodiesel. Perhaps the toal number of animals harmed in the production of petrodiesel (from pulling crude from a well, shipping that crude, refining, shipping the refined fuel, all the way to combustion) is greater than the production of biodiesel from a (already) dead cat.

    This paper (http://www.courses.rochester.edu/nobis/animals/Da vis-LeastHarm.htm) for instance argues that people who choose a vegan diet out of concern for the welfare of animals actually do more harm by taking their nutrients from foliage harvested via machinery that if they just ate the cows that harvested if for them.

  213. Details on the KDV500 mentioned in the article. by Mike+McCune · · Score: 2, Informative

    Details on the KDV 500 mentioned in the article are here . No mentions of cats, though.

    --

    In a world that is Free and Open, who needs Windows and Gates?

  214. Soilent Diesel by Irvu · · Score: 1

    It's made from felines... felines!

    (Of course, if dead cats work then the perhaps real quote would work too.)

  215. Take your cat to work! by drgonzo59 · · Score: 1

    Besides take your daughter to work day, now you can have take your cat to work. You are only allowed to come in if your tank is full of cats.

  216. Not much of a surprise here by wcrowe · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've always felt there was some kind of relationship between cars and pussy.

    --
    Proverbs 21:19
  217. Cat fuel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...kinda gives new meaning to the old slogan "put a tiger in your tank" ;)

  218. Noof by dswensen · · Score: 1

    Ladies And Gentlemen Allow Me to Introduce the Comma You Might Find It Helpful in Separating Clauses in Sentences Lest People Get Confused Sure I Know This Is a Mild Example But the Principle Still Stands in the Future Please Use One

    1. Re:Noof by chawly · · Score: 1

      Sorry, what did you say? I fell into a comma while reading your post. Excuse me.

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      How many beans make five, anyhow ? ... Charles Walmsley
  219. Damn! by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

    I was hoping for something along the lines of the Catbus...

  220. Re:perfect fuel by namekuseijin · · Score: 1

    money! complete waste, bad for your health and other's and easy to burn.

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    I don't feel like it...
  221. Re:How about "Petrel"? Or "Vin Diesel"4 by Jeremi · · Score: 1
    Good lord, we're not even done conquering the Middle East and now we've declared war on the animal kingdom for our energy needs! Norway is next


    Of course, if one reads the article, one finds that the entire issue of cats is made up by the newspaper. The inventor never used cats, and never suggested using cats. Even the author of the newspaper story admitted that. It's an unprovoked, libelous hit piece designed to sell newspapers, nothing more.

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    I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
  222. Great for the nekobus by BlueQuark · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think the Cat Gas would be great to power the 'Nekobus' (catbus)

    http://www.higashiko.net/nekobus/oneko.html

    Hmm Fuel from Cats... gives new meaning to 'PETrol'

    Sorry

  223. Upon hearing news of the "Cat Car"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the neighborhood cat lady was unavailable for comment as she scurried about her house attempting to disguise her 200 "babies" as dogs.

  224. Haven't RTFA'ed. by readpunk · · Score: 1

    I admit to not reading the article, but I am vegan and think this is brilliant! Perhaps we could do the same with other species' corpses?

    --

    ./revolution
  225. Reasons not to use automatic translation software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and I quote "Despite everything certain safety requirements are to be placed against the prOn the one hand this is the requirements to the tightness of the plant, which is ensured by a permanent slight negative pressure connected with a safety disconnection. On the other hand this requirements are to the tightness of supply and removal lines, which dimension, in the case of a disturbance by one sufficiently catch pan are secured, so that no materials can arrive into the soil. "

    http://www.alphakat.de/Safety/safety.html

  226. A man that loves cats by dbhankins · · Score: 1
    I think you've all got it wrong. I think this man is a cat lover and owns one or more. As someone who is fond of cats myself, I must admit that a cat will on occasion,
    • Sharpen its claws - this would be okay, but why is a catnip-saturated scratching post so much less attractive than a Louis XVI settee?
    • Cough up a hairball - a biological necessity, but on the Persian rug?
    • Go hunting, and leave the best bits where your dinner guests will find them on arriving.
    • Mark the boundaries of its territory with urine - unfortunately, the boundaries are inside the house.
    • Do that cute little thing where it chases ghosts across your bed, at 2AM.
    • Wake you up for its breakfast by nipping your nose, five minutes before the alarm.
    • Serenade the female cats in the neighborhood, at 4AM.
    • Use a guest's leg as a scratching post.
    • Decide it has as much right to eat from your plate as you do.
    • Always think it's on the wrong side of any closed door. Opening the door for the cat doesn't help, as it will be on the wrong side again when it goes through, or it will simply peer through the door and decide it didn't really want to be in that room anyway - until you close the door again.
    • Leap from the dresser to the windowsill so it can sun itself, taking care in the process to knock to the floor anything on top of the dresser.
    • Exercise its arboreal instincts by chasing a squirrel up a tree, only to promptly forget them once it gets there.
    • Express its displeasure with you and the indignity of existence by using your bed for a litterbox.
    • Curl up in your lap after ignoring it for weeks...on top of the book you're trying to read.
    • Eat every chunk of filet mignon in its bowl, except for the one containing its medication.
    • Leave lots of little holes in anyone trying to feed it a pill.
    • Walk across your keyb;.l,uygew21oard while you're trying to type.
    • Chew on anything stringlike, with a special fondess for power cords and CAT-5 cables.
    Enough of this sort of thing, and even the most ardent cat afficionado may begin to, well, fantasize...
  227. The TITLE of the linked CNN story by Ophion · · Score: 2, Informative

    is "Inventor denies dead cat fuel story." Unless it was recently changed, that is a fairly clear indicator that the Slashdot story was purposely disingenuous.

  228. cat ranch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are starting a cat ranch in Lacon with 100,000 cats. Each cat will average 12 kittens a year. The cat skins will sell for 30 cents each. One hundred men can skin 5,000 cats a day. We figure a daily net profit of over $10,000. Now what shall we feed the cats? We will start a rat farm next door with 1,000,000 rats. The rats breed 12 times faster than the cats. So we will have four rats to feed each day to each cat. Now what shall we feed the rats? We will feed the rats the carcasses of the cats after they have been skinned. Now Get This! We feed the rats to the cats and the cats to the rats and get the cat skins for nothing!

  229. What about cannabis/hemp ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about making fuel out of cannabis/hemp ?

    It's indeed possible.
    Quotation from jackherer.com site:
    "CANNABIS/HEMP/MARIJUANA is non-toxic and has been used to make high-grade diesel fuel, oil, aircraft and precision oil and even the NUMBER ONE vegetable oil. The U.S. Army/Navy standards purchasing specifications list HEMP OIL as the NUMBER ONE preferred lubricant for their machinery. CANNABIS/HEMP is the best sustainable source of plant pulp for biomass fuel to make charcoal, gas, methanol, gasoline and electricity in a natural way."

  230. Live Cats by Mr+Bubble · · Score: 1

    Dead cats are not renewable at the necessary rate. They should put their money into live cat engine research involving a piece of buttered toast strapped to the back of a cat.

    Since cats always land on their feet, and buttered toast always lands butter side down, suspennding the cat in mid-air would, in theory, result in a perpetual energy source.

    --
    "The world is a construct of forceful imagination. Those who don't know walk around in the reailties of those who do"
    1. Re:Live Cats by narcc · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Since cats always land on their feet, and buttered toast always lands butter side down, suspennding the cat in mid-air would, in theory, result in a perpetual energy source.


      Explaining the joke just ruins it. A shame too, as I thought it was very funny.
  231. Sig reply (lame on my part) by 2names · · Score: 1
    WWFSMD?

    What
    Would
    Fo'
    Shizzle
    My
    Dizzle?

    --
    "I'm just here to regulate funkiness."
    1. Re:Sig reply (lame on my part) by Jamu · · Score: 1
      What
      Would the
      Flying
      Spaghetti
      Monster
      Do?

      Be touched by His Noodly Appendage!

      --
      Who ordered that?
  232. it's almost a Mr. Fusion by E8086 · · Score: 1

    "can transform waste products such as paper, rubbish and plastic materials into fuel."

    If it only generatged over 1.21 giggawatts of electricity instead of combustable fuel. They both appear to work on items you pull out of the trash. As for using dead cats, they're biomatter and they're already dead so it's not going to hurt them. I would have used 'roadkill' instead of 'cats'. No one really thinks about roadkill, and it's not animal specific, it's whatever didn't make it across the road, squirel or 'possum or deer or even cat. Dirty Jobs on the Discovery channel had a segment on the nice guys who spend their days cleaning up roadkill, it gets put into compost piles, no reason it can't go into that guy's fuel creation device.

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  233. Re:Spelling Flame by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    You misspelled it.

    It's F-L-A-M-E.

    What do I win?

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  234. kill cats? why not by lsappserver · · Score: 1

    well we kill cows and pigs and everything moving for food, why not kill cats for fuel? If that really is possible

  235. Mod Parent up +1 Funny by JumperCable · · Score: 1

    The last line cracks me up.

  236. Re:The exhaust smells by kianu7 · · Score: 0

    OMG, I got an negative score. Wow. :)

  237. Bat-Mobile by Blitzenn · · Score: 1

    I wonder if it would work with bats instead of cats. I always wanted my own Batmobile. ;)

  238. hey, jews, cats, what's the difference? by swschrad · · Score: 1

    somebody check up on this german researcher's background, think we've heard this story before.....

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  239. Re:Spelling Flame by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1
    Is there nothing that can't be solved by killing more kittens?

    That'll teach me to waste sublety on moderators.

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  240. miles .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    purr hour ?

    Thank you, tahnk you, thank you. I'll be in the bar all evening....
    welshmnt

  241. Re:The exhaust smells by kianu7 · · Score: 0

    Oh, I see...perhaps I should have confined my reply to the topics of jizz and masturbation if I didn't want to get modded down...those seem to be a big hit with the mods.

  242. Except that's NOT what the story is about. by stlhawkeye · · Score: 1
    "CNN is running a story about how a German inventor has found a way to power a car using dead cats. Yes you read that right."

    Weird, because if you read the actual story, it's about how the guy is not really using cats, it's just a rumor that he's denied.

    What is WRONG with the editors?

    If Bill Gates were to say, "I really like dogs. I also like peanut butter sandwiches," we'd have a Slashdot story that says, "According to Reuters, Bill Gates does not "really like dogs" or does he "like peanut butter sandwiches."

    And then you would predictably respond with a bunch of anti-Microsoft nonsense.

    You have to wonder how much deliberate trolling the editors do.

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    1. Re:Except that's NOT what the story is about. by trongey · · Score: 1

      ...You have to wonder how much deliberate trolling the editors do.

      Really? I've never wondered much at all. It seems pretty obvious.

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  243. it's not ladies and gentlemen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're meant to be nerds. Get it right. The corollary for ladies is lords. The corollary for gentlemen is gentlewomen (being the gentry who derive their income from their assets without having to work). So it should read, lords and ladies, gentlemen and gentlewomen. It comes from a banqueting toast.

    Curiously, the test word was pedagogy. How did it know?

  244. Considering what happened to Bonsaikitten.... by wsanders · · Score: 1

    The animal rights fascists are humor-impaired, and they have access to explosives. Not a good combination.

    I reference the font o' all knowledge, snopes.com:

    http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/bonsai.asp

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  245. Re:Spelling Flame by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    I knew what you were doing, I was making a joke based on the subject of your post.

    You were probably modded down because most spelling nazi posts are modded down. Some are modded up, though, because moderators are habitual crack users and thus unpredictable.

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  246. Mileage? by benw1979 · · Score: 1

    I wonder how many miles per cat he gets...

  247. Erroneous Posting by macmurph · · Score: 1

    According to the link provided, dead cats were never used to make BioDiesel. I think its time to update this posting.

  248. That's not true ... by Josh1 · · Score: 1

    The article on BILD was crap.(like most of the others in Bild). I really can't understand why reuters, dpa and other newpapers are still writing articles based on BILD. Several mistakes in BILD articles are corrected every day on http://www.bildblog.de/ (only german)

    1. Re:That's not true ... by chawly · · Score: 1

      Maybe reuters and the others just do it for laughs. For a moment there, I had a question regarding my mother-in-law.

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  249. You idiot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The story was not
    "about how a German inventor has found a way to power a car using dead cats."
    It was about how a inventor deigning that he uses dead cats and how
    A German newspaper made up the story about cats.

    Substantively different

  250. tell me again... by fanblade · · Score: 1

    why do they have to be dead?

  251. Read about this on Yahoo by Landshark17 · · Score: 1

    The guy denies using cats, he developed the system using general waste. Dead cats can be used in theory, but have not yet in practice.

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  252. What's wrong with using dead cats? by 3BEPb · · Score: 1

    I don't see why it's ok to use dead dinosaurs (aka Oil) for fuel, but not dead cats.

    1. Re:What's wrong with using dead cats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that oil did not come from dead dinosaurs, as facetious as that argument was in the first place...

  253. Misreading the summary.... by xgamer04 · · Score: 1

    I read the summary as ".30 per litter".

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    1. Re:Misreading the summary.... by chawly · · Score: 1

      You misread perhaps, but I think you have a logical approach. If this gentlemen really uses dead cats - he says not - then his output could be measured in litters per litre. And, while we're at it, how about dogs ? There is my aunt's parrot also - the damn thing bit me last Sunday. How many litres per deceased elephant ? Not enough detail here.

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  254. Doc! by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    so.. It's Mr Fusion! sweet. I hope someone does build a car based on this. and includes a little plunger for the cats that clog its ravenous maw.

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    1. Re:Doc! by stirz · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid, this is not necassery good news. Sure, on one hand, Koch's device seems to good to be true: it consumes waste materials and turns them into something useful (Something similar was used by Nazi-Germany to produce synthetic gasoline from coal). Furthermore, this news appears in a period of time where oil prices seem to skyrocket pushing up taking gasoline and Diesel prices, of course.

      But:
      If you still stick to combustion, the real problem will remain. As far as exhausted gases are concerned, there is no difference if my VW runs on "natural" Diesel or on Koch's Diesel.

      I would really appreciate a "Mr. Fusion"-car that eats up my garbage producing nothing more than a decent acceleration and some hot air, but this seems to be really far awar... *sigh*

  255. Hrmmm.. by modecx · · Score: 1

    I could never figure out why women like cats so much, seems like if you took every masculine charecteristic that women hate, multiply it by 10 would'd have a cat's personality.

    Funny, I've always thought of it the other way around, which would explain why women love cats. Thankfully, she dosen't puke on the carpet like pussycat does.

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  256. Re:Human Fuel Source? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    offtopic, eh? you cocksuckers. Show me one post from this article that is on topic.
    You fucking reported the news wrong, how can you call anything offtopic?
    fucking damn cocksuckers.

  257. liter???? by m()p3s · · Score: 1

    cost of about $0.30 (US) per liter

    Liter? What the heck is a 'Liter'?? Another one of those imperial measurements I haven't heard of I bet.

    It is a litre people, L-I-T-R-E!!!

    The same goes with metre as well; a metre is the length of some rod somewhere in France and also the SI unit for length, a meter is some sort of measuring device (like the one the gas company checks).

  258. SLASHDOT editors - RTFA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    "But Koch, 55, said there was no truth to stories published in Bild newspaper on Tuesday and Wednesday that suggested he used dead cats as part of the mix for his organic diesel fuel."

    How lazy do you have to be to not notice that the second paragraph in the article contradicts the writeup about it?

  259. Oh Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I'm allergic to German cars.

  260. Cat on a stick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet the inventor has a vanity license plate on his car that reads: I8URCAT

    This brings new meaning to "cat on a stick"

  261. Bring him to New York City - we've got 9M+ rats! by otisg · · Score: 1

    I say bring the guy to NYC, and power a fleet of his cars for months using our high-energy subway and park rats at $0/liter!

    Seriously, for those of you in NYC, when you find yourself at Union Square after dark, take a few minutes to stop and observe the lovely park animals. Rats, of course. South-west corner, right by the intersection is especially active. People are walking by, not paying any attention (the NYC style), but there are whole families of rats in that corner (also not paying attention to humans - NYC style rats).

    So, bring theGerman dude to NYC.... please! :)

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  262. Re:Ultimate anti-karma by mattr · · Score: 1

    Thanks for your lengthy post. Sorry if I was not clear enough, I have nothing against Germany per se (though my Dad, does, I should say). And I am not a huge cat lover, though I do live on a hill where 10 abandoned cats wait for handouts, which perhaps resonanted a bit. Also I am very pro-alternative energy.

    What I reacted to was a very nasty sense of humor. I am glad to hear it is a hoax, but it just means that the person with the nasty sense of humor is not the kind Dr. Koch but the publisher of the newspaper.

    The point I attempted to make was that making an involved project of building a cat-powered car, or in this case of reporting that such a car existed, is not exactly humor at all. In fact, and it is more to the point now that we know it is a hoax, the time taken to create this story, and manipulate people into believing it, indicates a psyche that takes pleasure in causing distress to cat lovers, and perhaps also in further polarizing sentimental people against those who aren't. (It worked I believe).

    You will note that we are not up to our ears in cats, which as they exist are a 100% domesticated and bred organism. Cats are invested with love, fed, excessively pampered, they live in our homes by our choice. Not like rats. The rat-powered robot I heard of in the past was gruesome but possibly a good idea. If there was a cockroach-powered robot smart enough to catch them I'd buy a dozen. A cat-powered anything can have but one purpose, since there are not enough dead cats to make an alternative fuel. The discussion of turning cats into a liquid like gasohol was a very bad piece of work in particular. Cats don't fuel cars. They may fuel your town because they get caught up in the trash somehow, though I doubt it would be a good idea to tell kids that. The only thing cats really fuel is a sadistic pleasure of a sick mind that finds the idea funny and enjoys seeing people squirm - the more sentimental the better. In this case the only winners are the sadists, and the poor geeks who have become so robotlike that they cannot imagine why a story about a German engineer liquifying members of the household to power his car is not a terrifying person to have in the neighborhood. Well thank you and I hope you understand my viewpoint.

    By the way I am a U.S. citizen but have lived in Japan a long time. The economy is still a wreck thanks to oil prices. I did not know it was the law that pets were used as cattle feed, that is grotesque and you can call me sentimental if you wish. Dead pets are undoubtedly a big problem but I think the way you treat pets shows something about a society. Unfortunately in Japan, people often let their pets out to turn wild when they move, which is why I continually make friends with cats that turn up psychologically or physically abused, by the temple next to my home. I don't feed them because I don't want to see them have kittens and perpetuate this, which happened recently. Well this was an interesting subject, NOT.
    Viel Vergnügen!

  263. Re:Ziting grammar lesson... by aqk · · Score: 1

    Sigh...
    Sigh indeed! Here we go again...
    One does not expect EVERYONE here to write English properly.

    1. Let's assume the guy is German or Brosnian or Lathuvian or (shudder) French.
    Please cut him some slack. Could YOU speak HIS language eloquently?

    2. Now if he's British- well he should jolly well be chastised.

    3. If perhaps he's Australian, tie his kangaroo down,mate!

    4. If Canadian, gee...some of us don't quite speak properly at times, do we, eh? Sorry!

    5. If he's American, ... um.. see #1 above.

  264. Obligatory semantics lesson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sigh.

    Grammar = the interaction and the formulaic relations between parts of a sentence.
    Semantics = the meaning of each possible constituent atomic part of a sentence.

  265. Re:Woohoo! My turn, my turn! by slaida1 · · Score: 1
    Ok here goes:

    How dare those monsters, those despeakable low lifes of bonsaikitten, hurt cute little adorable kittens?! OMG!!!1 I'm gonna report them to PETA, FBI, CIA, CSI ,that'll teach them a lesson they'll neva forget! I'm in tears right now, I can't.. OMG!! This is horrible, worse than 9/11 and New Orlando combined, those utter horrendous sadists, they show no mercy it's it's I can't find words how offended I am right now! I feel could just..

    FUCK!

    OMG now you made me say nasty word, you'll burn in hell! You you.. OMG!

    Whew, I gave it everything I got, hope it was on the level of other BK flames.. :p

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  266. Speak German? by MrCopilot · · Score: 1
    From AlphaKat Website, http://www.alphakat.de/Safety/safety.html English is iffy.

    Despite everything certain safety requirements are to be placed against the prOn the one hand this is the requirements to the tightness of the plant, which is ensured by a permanent slight negative pressure connected with a safety disconnection.

    Obviously machine translated. Interesting stuff. Really just recycling oil (Plastic,PVC,Tires) into diesel. I like it, kills two birds(cats?) with one stone. Landfill Reduction, Diesel Production.

    Never fly here in the US unless you cut in Dick Cheney.

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  267. Funerals and laws by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    Incidentally, in most states, there's no requirement to go through a funeral home or funeral director (I know New York is an exception, incidentally), so as long as the ground is designated for burial, you have permission for digging the plot, and you go about it properly (depth of burial, etc), it's legal. Personally, I'm kind of considering ultrasonic pulverization. Basically, they dip you in liquid nitrogen, then submit you to a round of ultrasonics. You get a pile of freeze-dried human kibble that can then be directly put back in the environment as fertilizer. Although I do plan on some kind of memorial site for the sake of family who feel they must visit.

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  268. Roadkill problem solved by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    And here I was just thinking that we'd finally solved the problem of perpetual roadkill.
    Meh, no problem. Just get yourself a cookbook.

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    1. Re:Roadkill problem solved by QMO · · Score: 1

      The problem was that roadkill cost too much fuel. Now that roadkill fuels itself, viola, perpetual roadkill. Problem solved.

      Although if the problem were too much roadkill, a cookbook would be helpful.

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  269. Re:Woohoo! My turn, my turn! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    slaida1, it wouldn't make a difference to me whether we were talking about cats, dogs, horses, sheep, birds, etc, etc, etc. The owner of the site is promoting cruelty to animals for pleasure. There's nothing honourable in that at all. To me it's the equivalent of violently bullying those who are completely unable to defend themselves.

    I can't speak for others but myself I tend to enjoy life in its many forms. Life makes life worth living, therefore I will fight to protect that in the hopes of lessoning the effects of a few that don't value life, and the welfare of others, as much as I do.

    It has nothing to do with fluffy little kittens and everything to do with respect for others. To place oneself in the position of others to 'see how it feels'.

    Treat others as you yourself would wish to be treated.

    As an aside; let's take the site's owner as a model for all society on earth and see what me may end up with after a period of time. I hope you, your family, and future offspring, enjoy the results.

  270. all very good points, but by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    You seem to have missed my two original points: It appears that Mr. Fusion wouldn't actually have anything to do with fusion and the idea of stuffing meowing felines into a gas-tank with a tiny wooden plunger designed for this purpose is more than a little funny. (but not much more)

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