"They just don't get it.The winners are the consumer who gets to pay lower prices for the products and services."
No offense, but that's a pretty weak argument.
In order to be a consumer, you need to have money. In order to get money, you need to have a job.
If the tech jobs move out, then the tech people here will not have tech jobs that give them their tech money to buy tech things.
Unless lower price == free, I still don't see how this really helps anyone besides corporations and their stockholders.
"Innovation, entrepreneurship, and low tax overhead will help."
If, after the tech bubble collapse, you can manage to gather some investment capital and loans to fund your little venture. Time probably won't be an issue since you'll be unemployed.
"We also have to face up to the fact that there are industrious and hard working people out there who will do our job on the cheap."
That's an inaccurate, if not misleading statement. To us, they work on the cheap. To them they're getting paid quite nicely.
They're getting compensated very well for equal work. It's just that in their country good compensation would equal minimum wage here.
"We in the West need to wake up,"
I agree with that.
" start thinking more innovatively,"
We probably could if stifling IP laws and corporate domineering weren't suffocating the industry.
" and compete with our best tools: our creativity,"
See above.
" education,"
Don't know if you noticed this but eductaion costs buku-bucks here in the states. If you're unemployed where are you going to get the cash?
Federal loans only get you so far. And it would be pointless for anyone to go into a field of study that has little or no job prospects because the jobs are being shipped over-seas.
" and tremendous freedom to explore new business opportunities."
Which again, takes capital that an unemployed tech worker will have a hard time obtaining.
Some of it is not an optical illusion, but merely the refraction of the atmosphere. Near the horizon, the light of the moon travels through a lot more atmosphere than straight above. Depending on temperature differentials, aersols in the atmosphere, etc. you can get a small, but not insignificant magnification of an object near the horizon.
However, most of it is caused by an optical illusion.
Why did they give those burgalers felony charges for being intelligent enough to get through such pathetically weak security? At the very least, the homeowner should have had a dead-bolt on the front door.
If they really wanted to be secure, they wouldn't have given out the computers in the first place.
They hacked state owned property. They got caught. Now they have to pay the consequences. I'm having a little trouble developing sympathy for these kids.
If the kids didn't want to be monitored, then don't use their systems.
Do you know what happens if the schools don't monitor their systems these days? Lawsuits. Huge fucking lawsuits brought on by ignorant parents who expect the system to babysit their TV feed kids.
And teenagers aren't exactly the best at making decisions.
So you get tyrannical monitoring systems for kids when using school property.
And I'm sorry, but with the prevalence of "hacking" in the media and on the net I seriously doubt these kids didn't know what they were doing was illegal.
"'Students who violate the computer policy will be disciplined" does not imply that criminal charges will be filed.'"
Funny thing is the same thing is said for violating a school's drug policy or violence policy. And I'd fully expect criminal charges in either of those cases.
No, what this does is eliminate the "public use" clause of the fifth ammendment.
This decision gives the states (and federal) the rights to transfer private property to another private owner. This is a gross distortion of the fifth amendment, which clearly states that private property may be taken for only for PUBLIC USE, with just compensation.
Please note: PUBLIC USE. Not public good. These are very different things. Public use is pretty clear, while public good is not well defined.
I don't see anywhere where it says government can take private property and give it to private corporations just to increase tax revenue. Which, apparently in this case, is considered a public use.
I guess the Constitution isn't what it used to be.
"...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
I want to emphasize PUBLIC USE.
Not PUBLIC GOOD, PUBLIC USE.
What this decision did was to change this to read:...nor shall private property be taken for use, without just compensation."
Why? Because the land isn't being used for public use. It is being used for PRIVATE use (The PFizer Corporation).
This ruling allows governemnts the abilty to transfer private property to another private owner. The term "public use" isn't even mentioned. The term "public good" as described by the decision is disgustingly vague and pretty much leaves the door open to anything, including leveling low income housing to build strip malls or high-class apartements (in the name of increasing the tax base).
You're right though, this decision does not limit what the states can use for eminent domain.
Expropriation is when government takes your land and gives you compensation, then uses the land for the public good.
What ruling now says is that the government can transfer your land to another private owner, giving you compensation. The reasons for doing so may be in the public good, but apparently the "public good" can be interpreted in a very lose sense of the term.
This could mean some rich guy with a few million could waltz into town, says he wants to tear down 20 houses, and construct a high-end housing developement. Since "increasing the tax base" seems to be a legit reason, the government could tell you to leave your comfy little two-bedroom home. They could also just give you market value of your home as compensation, which could be a very bad thing if your area is in a slump.
In this case, not only do you lose your house but you also lose cash.
Since there's no definition of what abdequate compensation is, tough luck on you.
"The levels of alcohol and drug use they described were frighteningly high."
If some holier-than-thou asshat were to ship me out to fight a bullshit war in a third world hell-hole for 6 months crawling with people who just want to kill my ass on sight, you're damn straight I'd be cocked and loaded.
What makes you think ol' MoneyBags Bush would veto this obnoxious piece of legislation from the **AA asshat senators (or to be less vulgar, brownhats)?
I do agree that one of two things need to happen. Either the prez gets a line item veto or congress cannot slip unrelated ryders or ammendments into bills.
Young man, you want to make a copy.I said, young man, I'll just charge you a fee. I said, young man, we've stolen all of your rights. And you never put up a fight.
Young man, don't reverse engineer. I said, young man, that's illegal in here. If you do it, you'll get sued out of sight. Our lawyers will fuck you up tight.
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A. It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
We own everything, DRM'd to the gills, We know every crook and shill...
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A. It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
We buy ourselves clean, we buy all the laws, Put your money in our claws...
Young man, are you listening to me? I said, young man, you want to backup for free? I said, young man, not anymore. 'Cuz we sell you shit and you just buy more!
Come on! It's for all you to see. That my new house, is made of money, Don't you share, just be a good sheep, 'Cuz next we'll kill you in your sleep.
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A. It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
We know everything, your ISP is mine Here's a million dollar fine...
You've been raped by the D-M-C-A. Hope you like the D-M-C-A.
Your government's good, it's the best you can buy, It brings a tear to my eye...
Young man, what you could once do for free. Well it's too late, we've locked up all you can see. And you'll pay now, as we dance with glee, 'Cuz all you base are belong to me.
Hey you, on that mini-iPod, You better pay us, you insensitive clod! There's a cool law, called the DMCA. And it's never going away.
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A. You're owned by the D-M-C-A.
You make us strong, you make us rich, Orrin Hatch is our bitch...
D-M-C-A... we love the broadcast flag D-M-C-A.
Well Canada, don't say we never gave you anything. Hello and welcome to prosperous rule under oppressive IP laws.
I suppose one way to look at it is that you in the present are the result of some huge number of collapsed wave functions.
If you go back in time, the wave functions that make up are still in flux. You'd be out of phase so to speak.
Since the past already happened, you'd be able to "observe" the solutions to the wave functions. Your observations would have no affect. But no one would be able to observe you as your wavefunctions at the time have no solution yet.
So you could watch them, but they could not observe you.
1. Invaded other country(s) without provocation...check. 2. Holding prisoners without due process or trial rights...check. 3. Torture...check. 4. Killed thousands of people...check. 5. Actively worked to reduced the rights of his people...check. 6. Use of propoganda and nationalism...check 7. Weapons of Mass Destruction...Weapons of Mass Destruction????
You're right. Only Bush has access to weapons of mass destruction. There's no comparison.
George Bush is Palpatine who is really the Emperor. His predecessors and connections helped him set up the "Terrorist War", which has blinded the congress and people to granting him increasing amounts of executive power (The Patriot Act, Real ID, etc.).
His young apprentice (Darth Jebodiah) will soon take over the ruling of the US empire, while Sith Lord Bushious concentrates on turning the rest of the world to the dark side.
Dick Cheney is the tall blue guy with horns who hangs around the emperor with a big stick.
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"They just don't get it.The winners are the consumer who gets to pay lower prices for the products and services."
No offense, but that's a pretty weak argument.
In order to be a consumer, you need to have money. In order to get money, you need to have a job.
If the tech jobs move out, then the tech people here will not have tech jobs that give them their tech money to buy tech things.
Unless lower price == free, I still don't see how this really helps anyone besides corporations and their stockholders.
"Innovation, entrepreneurship, and low tax overhead will help."
If, after the tech bubble collapse, you can manage to gather some investment capital and loans to fund your little venture. Time probably won't be an issue since you'll be unemployed.
"We also have to face up to the fact that there are industrious and hard working people out there who will do our job on the cheap."
That's an inaccurate, if not misleading statement. To us, they work on the cheap. To them they're getting paid quite nicely.
They're getting compensated very well for equal work. It's just that in their country good compensation would equal minimum wage here.
"We in the West need to wake up,"
I agree with that.
" start thinking more innovatively,"
We probably could if stifling IP laws and corporate domineering weren't suffocating the industry.
" and compete with our best tools: our creativity,"
See above.
" education,"
Don't know if you noticed this but eductaion costs buku-bucks here in the states. If you're unemployed where are you going to get the cash?
Federal loans only get you so far. And it would be pointless for anyone to go into a field of study that has little or no job prospects because the jobs are being shipped over-seas.
" and tremendous freedom to explore new business opportunities."
Which again, takes capital that an unemployed tech worker will have a hard time obtaining.
Great speech, but it lacks a little in realism.
~X~
Some of it is not an optical illusion, but merely the refraction of the atmosphere. Near the horizon, the light of the moon travels through a lot more atmosphere than straight above. Depending on temperature differentials, aersols in the atmosphere, etc. you can get a small, but not insignificant magnification of an object near the horizon.
However, most of it is caused by an optical illusion.
~X~
Why did they give those burgalers felony charges for being intelligent enough to get through such pathetically weak security? At the very least, the homeowner should have had a dead-bolt on the front door.
If they really wanted to be secure, they wouldn't have given out the computers in the first place.
~X~
They hacked state owned property. They got caught. Now they have to pay the consequences. I'm having a little trouble developing sympathy for these kids.
If the kids didn't want to be monitored, then don't use their systems.
Do you know what happens if the schools don't monitor their systems these days? Lawsuits. Huge fucking lawsuits brought on by ignorant parents who expect the system to babysit their TV feed kids.
And teenagers aren't exactly the best at making decisions.
So you get tyrannical monitoring systems for kids when using school property.
And I'm sorry, but with the prevalence of "hacking" in the media and on the net I seriously doubt these kids didn't know what they were doing was illegal.
"'Students who violate the computer policy will be disciplined" does not imply that criminal charges will be filed.'"
Funny thing is the same thing is said for violating a school's drug policy or violence policy. And I'd fully expect criminal charges in either of those cases.
~X~
No, what this does is eliminate the "public use" clause of the fifth ammendment.
This decision gives the states (and federal) the rights to transfer private property to another private owner. This is a gross distortion of the fifth amendment, which clearly states that private property may be taken for only for PUBLIC USE, with just compensation.
Please note: PUBLIC USE. Not public good. These are very different things. Public use is pretty clear, while public good is not well defined.
I don't see anywhere where it says government can take private property and give it to private corporations just to increase tax revenue. Which, apparently in this case, is considered a public use.
I guess the Constitution isn't what it used to be.
~X~
From the fifth ammendment...
...nor shall private property be taken for use, without just compensation."
"...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
I want to emphasize PUBLIC USE.
Not PUBLIC GOOD, PUBLIC USE.
What this decision did was to change this to read:
Why? Because the land isn't being used for public use. It is being used for PRIVATE use (The PFizer Corporation).
This ruling allows governemnts the abilty to transfer private property to another private owner. The term "public use" isn't even mentioned. The term "public good" as described by the decision is disgustingly vague and pretty much leaves the door open to anything, including leveling low income housing to build strip malls or high-class apartements (in the name of increasing the tax base).
You're right though, this decision does not limit what the states can use for eminent domain.
But seriously, who the fuck are we kidding here.
~X~
Expropriation is when government takes your land and gives you compensation, then uses the land for the public good.
What ruling now says is that the government can transfer your land to another private owner, giving you compensation. The reasons for doing so may be in the public good, but apparently the "public good" can be interpreted in a very lose sense of the term.
This could mean some rich guy with a few million could waltz into town, says he wants to tear down 20 houses, and construct a high-end housing developement. Since "increasing the tax base" seems to be a legit reason, the government could tell you to leave your comfy little two-bedroom home. They could also just give you market value of your home as compensation, which could be a very bad thing if your area is in a slump.
In this case, not only do you lose your house but you also lose cash.
Since there's no definition of what abdequate compensation is, tough luck on you.
Fascism at its finest.
~X~
"The levels of alcohol and drug use they described were frighteningly high."
If some holier-than-thou asshat were to ship me out to fight a bullshit war in a third world hell-hole for 6 months crawling with people who just want to kill my ass on sight, you're damn straight I'd be cocked and loaded.
~X~
I remember several action movies based on the premise of some big corp trying to take some towns land to build casinos and malls.
Funny, I never thought something like that would be legit.
~X~
Not Soviet, Fascist.
In Fascist America, Corporations own you!
~X~
Are you recommending that someone should take it in the ass when megacorp X wants to take his house that he lived in for 20 years?
What can one person do against a corp with mega-cash? What can 1000 people do against a corp with mega-cash?
Let's see, in a town like the one in CT a thousand voters amounts to....jack shit.
Their combined campaign/gov contributions amount to.....jack shit.
And the courts just decided against them.
So now what? How do you fight back?
Are you willing to destroy your family's livelihood because some big pocketed corp wants your land?
~X~
What makes you think ol' MoneyBags Bush would veto this obnoxious piece of legislation from the **AA asshat senators (or to be less vulgar, brownhats)?
I do agree that one of two things need to happen. Either the prez gets a line item veto or congress cannot slip unrelated ryders or ammendments into bills.
~X~
How about a thin, durable, structurally strong layer? :)
Carbon nanotubes are pretty strong, and you can have them be pretty thin.
~X~
It has been said to be proud of your enemy and enjoy his success.
:)
Learn, emulate, conquer.
~X~
Are you kidding? They innovate those old songs all the time!
Haven't you heard the Madonna remix of American Pie? It's the fashizzle!!!
*smash*
Hey...who are you and what are you doing with that gun?
*BLAM* *ka-thud-thud*
~X~
What's wrong with the DMCA?
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... we love the broadcast flag D-M-C-A.
Young man, you want to make a copy.I said, young man, I'll just charge you a fee.
I said, young man, we've stolen all of your rights. And you never put up a fight.
Young man, don't reverse engineer. I said, young man, that's illegal in here.
If you do it, you'll get sued out of sight. Our lawyers will fuck you up tight.
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
We own everything, DRM'd to the gills,
We know every crook and shill
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
We buy ourselves clean, we buy all the laws,
Put your money in our claws
Young man, are you listening to me? I said, young man, you want to backup for free?
I said, young man, not anymore. 'Cuz we sell you shit and you just buy more!
Come on! It's for all you to see. That my new house, is made of money,
Don't you share, just be a good sheep, 'Cuz next we'll kill you in your sleep.
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
We know everything, your ISP is mine
Here's a million dollar fine
You've been raped by the D-M-C-A.
Hope you like the D-M-C-A.
Your government's good, it's the best you can buy,
It brings a tear to my eye
Young man, what you could once do for free. Well it's too late, we've locked up all you can see.
And you'll pay now, as we dance with glee, 'Cuz all you base are belong to me.
Hey you, on that mini-iPod, You better pay us, you insensitive clod!
There's a cool law, called the DMCA. And it's never going away.
It's fun to have the D-M-C-A.
You're owned by the D-M-C-A.
You make us strong, you make us rich, Orrin Hatch is our bitch
D-M-C-A
Well Canada, don't say we never gave you anything. Hello and welcome to prosperous rule under oppressive IP laws.
~X~
I suppose one way to look at it is that you in the present are the result of some huge number of collapsed wave functions.
If you go back in time, the wave functions that make up are still in flux. You'd be out of phase so to speak.
Since the past already happened, you'd be able to "observe" the solutions to the wave functions. Your observations would have no affect. But no one would be able to observe you as your wavefunctions at the time have no solution yet.
So you could watch them, but they could not observe you.
Uh....that's a little creepy.
~X~
Compare that to the $0 dollars they have to pay on fraudulent charges (merchant has to cover it).
I don't think they'll be rushing to reissue cards.
~X~
Here's the ting though, the credit card companies aren't suffering financial losses.
When fradulent charge is made, you call them. They call the merchant and say, "Sorry bud, you just got pwned."
The merchants take the hit. So credit card companies could really care less.
~X~
She's fucking pregnant dude. It's not like she's going to swing from a pillar and drop-kick a mango-beast in the balls. :)
~X~
Compare Bush to Saddam? Let's see...
1. Invaded other country(s) without provocation...check.
2. Holding prisoners without due process or trial rights...check.
3. Torture...check.
4. Killed thousands of people...check.
5. Actively worked to reduced the rights of his people...check.
6. Use of propoganda and nationalism...check
7. Weapons of Mass Destruction...Weapons of Mass Destruction????
You're right. Only Bush has access to weapons of mass destruction. There's no comparison.
~X~
Uh...why would you want tour around a place that authorized the use of force that killed 100,000 people (White House, then and now).
~X~
It's not like the FBI wasn't already monitoring these guys....ooops.
It wasn't like the CIA didn't warn about the possibility of 9/11...ooops.
It wasn't like our government wasn't caught with it's pants down.........OOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSS!
So why do we have to lose rights in order to protect us from a threat that is outpaced by home accidents 100000 to 1?
You are a good citizen. Here's your daily supplement of fear and propaganda. Now go and watch some more Faux News.
~X~
Not exactly.
George Bush is Palpatine who is really the Emperor. His predecessors and connections helped him set up the "Terrorist War", which has blinded the congress and people to granting him increasing amounts of executive power (The Patriot Act, Real ID, etc.).
His young apprentice (Darth Jebodiah) will soon take over the ruling of the US empire, while Sith Lord Bushious concentrates on turning the rest of the world to the dark side.
Dick Cheney is the tall blue guy with horns who hangs around the emperor with a big stick.
~X~
It doesn't even take cold water to work. The water from the tap is usually cooler than your hot summer days.
It doesn't take ice water to work.
~X~