They don't trust the government to protect internet access, but they want the government to do it anyway.
Correct. We want government to function properly.
If you expect a whole slew of gigantic super-bureaucracies, which is what the current US government is, to not be supremely corrupt, dysfunctional, and unresponsive to citizens, you expect what has never been and will never be.
You realize that conservatism creates the police state right?
Wrong.
*Authoritarianism*, whether the flavor be Leftist or Rightist, creates the police state. There is anarchy and authoritarian tyranny at the two extremes, whether it is capitalist, communist, fascist, or socialist is largely irrelevant, especially to the regime's subjects. It's simply that collectivist ideologies have a 100% historical rate of authoritarianism. This authoritarianism is intrinsic, as collectivists take from those who produce and give it to those who do not.
"Whistleblower" protections should not extend to leakers whose purpose is domestic partisan-political in nature.
Revealing things like Snowden did which are blatantly unconstitutional acts by government are one thing, but revealing certain confidential/secret/top-secret information to harm political enemies should never be protected.
I notice Snowden did not in any way endorse Winner's specific actions, only the relevant laws in general and their draconian nature.
My main processor is thousands of hand-wire-wrapped transistors on a table-sized circuit board.
Hah!
In 1975/6 our HS vocational electronics class built a basic computer with a 12-inch amber monitor, mostly using 7400-series 14-pin DIP logic I.C.s in sockets with wire-wrap terminals mounted on perforated board, and connected together with wire-wrap using a special little hand tool to make the turns uniform and with the right amount of tension gripping the terminal post.
We all had to learn how to use this hand wire-wrapping tool, as at the time, that had been a standard wiring method for electronic digital circuit prototyping. What a PITA!! Never had to touch one in the decades in the electronics industry since that class, as PCBs came into near-universal use just around then, LOL!
Some jurisdictions in the US have laws like that about pumping your own gas. Supposedly due to safety concerns.
Pumping gas is so archaic, pumping electricity is the much safer future
Great idea!
Of course, electricity is very dangerous, too. We need qualified attendants at recharge stations to perform the actual connection-charge-disconnection procedures for safety's sake. Hey! I know! We can employ all those unemployed STEM graduates as "certified automobile recharging engineers"!
then the climate agreement mostly existed to transfer our wealth to others.
Well, of *course* it did! That's the entire point!! The US went and became a super-successful nation in just roughly 200 years, and it's time Americans paid for it!! [cough] I mean, paid for the CO2. Yeah, CO2, that's the ticket! Dirty, filthy, American CO2!
Because the FBI paying people makes them not 3rd party. I think the legal term is "agent of the state".
It does not necessarily make Best Buy employees agents of the State if the FBI happens to have enough dirt on the judge hearing the case or his family.
Bullshit. Go do some simple fact checking. It's illegal for felons, as are guns, but I can buy and wear body armor if I so desire.
My information was dated, you are correct. So many things to keep track of over the course of 6 decades, heh! Great news, IMHO! Hopefully many lives will be saved as a result. There were decisions on relevant court cases and precedents set so that there is no restrictions on civilian body armor (except in a crime, sane as a hammer, really). I will note however that many US suppliers/distributors/sellers will still refuse to sell without LEO-LEA/Gov credentials, despite it not being illegal to sell to the general law-abiding public. Curiously, some places which refuse non-credentialed in-person sales will sell online without any credentials required. Israel has a strong export market to the US for top quality BA as a result.
With all the terrible decisions coming out of the courts over the last few decades, seemingly on 'turbo' the last couple decades, it's a pleasant surprise when they actually get it right!
Too bad that by law, this can't legally protect a civilian life from a gunshot. Body armor is illegal for non-LEO/military personnel, and exceptions made of course for high-value VIPs, both government and business/corporate/financial.
After looking up the numbers, I have to agree. The vast majority of physical attacks are against trans-gender people, not by them...
I never claimed nor do I believe trans people would be the problem in the vast majority of cases. It's others who would take advantage of the law to gain access both to women and children while in an exposed and vulnerable situation with the addition of some level of privacy to the space discouraging the presence of those who might interfere.
That is a significant risk.
When you can come up with a simple, quick, easy, and cheap method that works without physical contact to determine if someone really does identify as another gender today with a certainty exceeding 98%, give me a call.
Until then, this is dangerous stupidity that puts women and children at unnecessary risk.
You are the idiot Blue Strat, and no amount of sock puppet up mods...
ROFLMAO!!!
Dude, really!? See my UID? It will be legally old enough to marry in some States soon, if not already. That's how much of a comment history I have. Anyone can plainly see I've never engaged in sock-puppetry or any other shenanigans.
Look at the average mod score of my comments. I don't *need* to boost my moderation scores with bot accounts. I get up-votes the old fashioned way: I *earn* them by having a brain and using it.
Why would I care then? Are you implying that transgender people are in some way dangerous to my child?
Have you no critical-thinking skills?
Chester the Molester does. He figures this will be a pretty sweet opportunity to go into the women's bathroom after your little girl goes in by just saying he identifies as female today. Good times for Chester.
Bad time to be a child needing to use public restrooms, though.
Deadmau5 isn't necessarily better or worse than the NY Philharmonic, just different.
Hey now, I didn't mean DJs who have taken it and techno/trance to the next level. That's talent and that's far, far and away from some lame $50/night bar DJ spinning oldy-moldy CDs from his milk crate until the drunks go home.
Same with hip-hop/rap, dubstep, etc etc. I have very eclectic tastes. I value talent, technical ability, dedication, and ability to connect on an emotional level with the audience foremost. I consider Tupac one of the major artists and talents of the age. Steve Vai is also amazing and under-recognized IMHO. I've played in touring country, '50s/doo-wop, Elvis impersonator, club-jazz, classic/hard rock, metal, pop/top40/dance, and folk/Americana bands and groups. Currently playing in a gigging contemporary blues band doing mostly festivals, events, etc etc.
Strangely enough, in most cases with many young musicians I've known both then and now, I'd agree. Strangely though, my dreaming of fame ended even before I picked up a guitar for the first time. It was the '60s and I saw these supergroups/superstars on TV news and documentaries being mobbed and attacked by frenzied fans, etc etc, heard about them not being able to go anywhere or do anything out in public, and I thought to myself that kind of life was not for me.
I play on *my* terms. It's why I haven't burned out. My body will give out first, I'm sure, heh!
We've literally spent decades and invested our souls into learning to perform for you
Wrong. You did it because you love music, you had dreams of becoming rich and famous, or both. If you did it for other people you did it wrong.
Spoken like someone who's never played in a gigging band.
I play music because I love music, yes. However, *playing* music and *performing for a live audience* are two entirely separate things, requiring significant skills and natural talents honed over time other than, and separate from, technical musicianship.
Learning to entertain people and having the natural talent to do so is kind of agnostic as to the medium/context, it would seem. I've personally known many musicians who were insanely talented but could not entertain people to save their asses. Equally, I've known many musicians who were mediocre at best musically, but could entertain the hell out of a crowd and receive standing ovations.
That's one thing people seem to be oblivious to. They're getting (I guess?) "music", either recorded or AI-synthesized, but they've been shorted on the entertainment portion and seem oblivious to their loss. Sad.
To prove his point, during a song in the middle of the set he let go of the fret-board and strummed the open strings a couple of times. Not a single person stopped dancing, or even noticed as far as I could see. No one said a thing to us about it. While were were packing up, the owner of the bar even told us we were really on that night. So, you're probably right.
I still play the occasional gig. It's even worse these days. Even on the tunes that have typically had the dance floor filling up, you look out beyond the glare of the par-cans, and all you see are people with their faces stuck in their phones.
C'mon, people! That behavior from an "audience" is downright soul-killing! We've literally spent decades and invested our souls into learning to perform for you, at least show a bare minimum of respect!
That's why. They've found people simply don't care. It's the same with bands that used to play in bars and clubs. The venue owners found out they didn't have to pay live bands or performers, that people were fine with a DJ/karaoke, or just a jukebox with a decent speaker system. They still patronized and spent money at roughly the same rate, and the owners pocket a tidy sum in their cost savings.
And then people wonder why they can't find live bands in bars and clubs anymore, and why now movie scores will be generated by software going forward.
Because people have proven they'll tolerate it. That's why. If venue owners or movie producers/studios lost money without real performers, this would not be happening.
That's why UBI is actually a libertarian's dream. I believe Milton Friedman even supported it. The Republican posters who oppose it are just dummies who didn't get the new talking points from Foxnews yet.
I do not know a single Libertarian that supports massive new government entitlement programs. And I know a lot of Libertarians...
Exactly. A humongous government bureaucracy to run the system tied into banking and government databases (think IRS/NSA/FBI/DHS/etc) able to monitor every transaction in real-time and ability to freeze/confiscate/fine/etc instantly whenever they wish. It would also need an enforcement arm including SWAT teams (heck, EPA, Social Security, and IRS have them, why not?).
Any large- or small-'L' libertarian I've ever met (and I, too, know a great many) would run screaming from anything remotely akin to this.
That kind of power would make the IRS and FBI combined look like amateur hour. A modern techno-authoritarian regime's wet-dream.
"Wikipedia's switch to HTTPS had a positive effect on the number censorship events by comparing server traffic from before and after the switch in June of 2015" is a direct quote from the report or the researchers, as opposed to the description chosen by the author.
Uh...how about the *purpose* Wikipedia switched to HTTPS? To avoid censorship, for which a reduction is, in fact, a positive. Stop with the sophistry. It's not intellectually honest, it's simply a way to have your cake and throw it in the trash, but all in your own head.
It's a statistical result being described in English, which can use the English word 'negative' to report the statistical finding objectively, instead of the value-laden (and mathematically inaccurate) 'positive'. That was my original point.
TFS/TFA are about Wikipedia's battle against censorship, the article is simply reporting the story from the POV of Wikipedia. It's not like they'd likely get much in the way of newsworthy discussion from the governments involved. No bias here. Just the story reported as it was heard, from the party making the announcement.
You should sharpen that razor. You need to slice these things a bit finer.:)
If you expect a whole slew of gigantic super-bureaucracies, which is what the current US government is, to not be supremely corrupt, dysfunctional, and unresponsive to citizens, you expect what has never been and will never be.
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You realize that conservatism creates the police state right?
Wrong.
*Authoritarianism*, whether the flavor be Leftist or Rightist, creates the police state. There is anarchy and authoritarian tyranny at the two extremes, whether it is capitalist, communist, fascist, or socialist is largely irrelevant, especially to the regime's subjects. It's simply that collectivist ideologies have a 100% historical rate of authoritarianism. This authoritarianism is intrinsic, as collectivists take from those who produce and give it to those who do not.
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Ahhahaha!
So good, I signed it twice!
You'd think I'd learn not to post before the second cup of coffee... :/
(I'll just not-sign this post, like stopping twice at the next red-light, thus restoring balance* to the universe!)
*Only valid for certain limited values of "balance".
"Whistleblower" protections should not extend to leakers whose purpose is domestic partisan-political in nature.
Revealing things like Snowden did which are blatantly unconstitutional acts by government are one thing, but revealing certain confidential/secret/top-secret information to harm political enemies should never be protected.
I notice Snowden did not in any way endorse Winner's specific actions, only the relevant laws in general and their draconian nature.
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Ah, teenage carpal-tunnel from wire-wrapping!
You could say I was among the first "teenage carpal-tunnel ninjas"! :D
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My main processor is thousands of hand-wire-wrapped transistors on a table-sized circuit board.
Hah!
In 1975/6 our HS vocational electronics class built a basic computer with a 12-inch amber monitor, mostly using 7400-series 14-pin DIP logic I.C.s in sockets with wire-wrap terminals mounted on perforated board, and connected together with wire-wrap using a special little hand tool to make the turns uniform and with the right amount of tension gripping the terminal post.
We all had to learn how to use this hand wire-wrapping tool, as at the time, that had been a standard wiring method for electronic digital circuit prototyping. What a PITA!! Never had to touch one in the decades in the electronics industry since that class, as PCBs came into near-universal use just around then, LOL!
Ah, teenage carpal-tunnel from wire-wrapping!
Good times, good times!
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Great idea!
Of course, electricity is very dangerous, too. We need qualified attendants at recharge stations to perform the actual connection-charge-disconnection procedures for safety's sake. Hey! I know! We can employ all those unemployed STEM graduates as "certified automobile recharging engineers"!
Somebody call the White House!!
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then the climate agreement mostly existed to transfer our wealth to others.
Well, of *course* it did! That's the entire point!! The US went and became a super-successful nation in just roughly 200 years, and it's time Americans paid for it!! [cough] I mean, paid for the CO2. Yeah, CO2, that's the ticket! Dirty, filthy, American CO2!
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Because the FBI paying people makes them not 3rd party. I think the legal term is "agent of the state".
It does not necessarily make Best Buy employees agents of the State if the FBI happens to have enough dirt on the judge hearing the case or his family.
Just sayin'
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I have lived next to a nuke plant for 30 years (indian point) and yeah. ill take this over coal any day
Yeah, but what does your *other* head think? :D
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Bullshit. Go do some simple fact checking. It's illegal for felons, as are guns, but I can buy and wear body armor if I so desire.
My information was dated, you are correct. So many things to keep track of over the course of 6 decades, heh! Great news, IMHO! Hopefully many lives will be saved as a result. There were decisions on relevant court cases and precedents set so that there is no restrictions on civilian body armor (except in a crime, sane as a hammer, really). I will note however that many US suppliers/distributors/sellers will still refuse to sell without LEO-LEA/Gov credentials, despite it not being illegal to sell to the general law-abiding public. Curiously, some places which refuse non-credentialed in-person sales will sell online without any credentials required. Israel has a strong export market to the US for top quality BA as a result.
With all the terrible decisions coming out of the courts over the last few decades, seemingly on 'turbo' the last couple decades, it's a pleasant surprise when they actually get it right!
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Too bad that by law, this can't legally protect a civilian life from a gunshot. Body armor is illegal for non-LEO/military personnel, and exceptions made of course for high-value VIPs, both government and business/corporate/financial.
Some animals are more equal than others.
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After looking up the numbers, I have to agree. The vast majority of physical attacks are against trans-gender people, not by them...
I never claimed nor do I believe trans people would be the problem in the vast majority of cases. It's others who would take advantage of the law to gain access both to women and children while in an exposed and vulnerable situation with the addition of some level of privacy to the space discouraging the presence of those who might interfere.
That is a significant risk.
When you can come up with a simple, quick, easy, and cheap method that works without physical contact to determine if someone really does identify as another gender today with a certainty exceeding 98%, give me a call.
Until then, this is dangerous stupidity that puts women and children at unnecessary risk.
Strat
You are the idiot Blue Strat, and no amount of sock puppet up mods...
ROFLMAO!!!
Dude, really!? See my UID? It will be legally old enough to marry in some States soon, if not already. That's how much of a comment history I have. Anyone can plainly see I've never engaged in sock-puppetry or any other shenanigans.
Look at the average mod score of my comments. I don't *need* to boost my moderation scores with bot accounts. I get up-votes the old fashioned way: I *earn* them by having a brain and using it.
You should try it some time.
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Keep up the good fight, BlueStrat. The idiots are thick in here tonight, but their minds are weak and logic will prevail as it always does.
Hah! Thanks! These idiots are operating with the same level of cognition as the idiots protesting racism by demanding...racial segregation. 0_o
MLK Jr.'s spirit weeps.
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How is this any different than Chester Thr Molester molesting my SON in the MENs room?
So what you're saying is that you want Chester to be allowed the right to enjoy equal-opportunity molestations?
How very...Progressive...of you.
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Why would I care then? Are you implying that transgender people are in some way dangerous to my child?
Have you no critical-thinking skills?
Chester the Molester does. He figures this will be a pretty sweet opportunity to go into the women's bathroom after your little girl goes in by just saying he identifies as female today. Good times for Chester.
Bad time to be a child needing to use public restrooms, though.
Strat
Deadmau5 isn't necessarily better or worse than the NY Philharmonic, just different.
Hey now, I didn't mean DJs who have taken it and techno/trance to the next level. That's talent and that's far, far and away from some lame $50/night bar DJ spinning oldy-moldy CDs from his milk crate until the drunks go home.
Same with hip-hop/rap, dubstep, etc etc. I have very eclectic tastes. I value talent, technical ability, dedication, and ability to connect on an emotional level with the audience foremost. I consider Tupac one of the major artists and talents of the age. Steve Vai is also amazing and under-recognized IMHO. I've played in touring country, '50s/doo-wop, Elvis impersonator, club-jazz, classic/hard rock, metal, pop/top40/dance, and folk/Americana bands and groups. Currently playing in a gigging contemporary blues band doing mostly festivals, events, etc etc.
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...you had dreams of becoming rich and famous...
Strangely enough, in most cases with many young musicians I've known both then and now, I'd agree. Strangely though, my dreaming of fame ended even before I picked up a guitar for the first time. It was the '60s and I saw these supergroups/superstars on TV news and documentaries being mobbed and attacked by frenzied fans, etc etc, heard about them not being able to go anywhere or do anything out in public, and I thought to myself that kind of life was not for me.
I play on *my* terms. It's why I haven't burned out. My body will give out first, I'm sure, heh!
Strat
Spoken like someone who's never played in a gigging band.
I play music because I love music, yes. However, *playing* music and *performing for a live audience* are two entirely separate things, requiring significant skills and natural talents honed over time other than, and separate from, technical musicianship.
Learning to entertain people and having the natural talent to do so is kind of agnostic as to the medium/context, it would seem. I've personally known many musicians who were insanely talented but could not entertain people to save their asses. Equally, I've known many musicians who were mediocre at best musically, but could entertain the hell out of a crowd and receive standing ovations.
That's one thing people seem to be oblivious to. They're getting (I guess?) "music", either recorded or AI-synthesized, but they've been shorted on the entertainment portion and seem oblivious to their loss. Sad.
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To prove his point, during a song in the middle of the set he let go of the fret-board and strummed the open strings a couple of times. Not a single person stopped dancing, or even noticed as far as I could see. No one said a thing to us about it. While were were packing up, the owner of the bar even told us we were really on that night. So, you're probably right.
I still play the occasional gig. It's even worse these days. Even on the tunes that have typically had the dance floor filling up, you look out beyond the glare of the par-cans, and all you see are people with their faces stuck in their phones.
C'mon, people! That behavior from an "audience" is downright soul-killing! We've literally spent decades and invested our souls into learning to perform for you, at least show a bare minimum of respect!
Strat
That's why. They've found people simply don't care. It's the same with bands that used to play in bars and clubs. The venue owners found out they didn't have to pay live bands or performers, that people were fine with a DJ/karaoke, or just a jukebox with a decent speaker system. They still patronized and spent money at roughly the same rate, and the owners pocket a tidy sum in their cost savings.
And then people wonder why they can't find live bands in bars and clubs anymore, and why now movie scores will be generated by software going forward.
Because people have proven they'll tolerate it. That's why. If venue owners or movie producers/studios lost money without real performers, this would not be happening.
Strat
Exactly. A humongous government bureaucracy to run the system tied into banking and government databases (think IRS/NSA/FBI/DHS/etc) able to monitor every transaction in real-time and ability to freeze/confiscate/fine/etc instantly whenever they wish. It would also need an enforcement arm including SWAT teams (heck, EPA, Social Security, and IRS have them, why not?).
Any large- or small-'L' libertarian I've ever met (and I, too, know a great many) would run screaming from anything remotely akin to this.
That kind of power would make the IRS and FBI combined look like amateur hour. A modern techno-authoritarian regime's wet-dream.
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"Wikipedia's switch to HTTPS had a positive effect on the number censorship events by comparing server traffic from before and after the switch in June of 2015" is a direct quote from the report or the researchers, as opposed to the description chosen by the author.
Uh...how about the *purpose* Wikipedia switched to HTTPS? To avoid censorship, for which a reduction is, in fact, a positive. Stop with the sophistry. It's not intellectually honest, it's simply a way to have your cake and throw it in the trash, but all in your own head.
Strat
It's a statistical result being described in English, which can use the English word 'negative' to report the statistical finding objectively, instead of the value-laden (and mathematically inaccurate) 'positive'. That was my original point.
TFS/TFA are about Wikipedia's battle against censorship, the article is simply reporting the story from the POV of Wikipedia. It's not like they'd likely get much in the way of newsworthy discussion from the governments involved. No bias here. Just the story reported as it was heard, from the party making the announcement.
You should sharpen that razor. You need to slice these things a bit finer. :)
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