The UK has JANET for educational use, SuperJanet4 is currently 10Gbps. Costs virtually nothing to run fibre between schools (let alone $10,000 per month per school) and upgrade the routers. No reason they can't OWN THEIR OWN FIBRE. I already have 50Mbps at home, going to 100Mbps sometime soon, with probably a 20Mbps backup - all for me. Tech is moving quickly, keep up or fall behind. You seem to think falling behind is the best option. More fool you.
And you miss the point that if that was the case he obviously wouldn't sign of IRC either.
Now, if he says on IRC "BRB, just going to buy some Cheetos from the 247", then they film him leaving, going to the shop, going to the 247 and coming back with some Cheetos, then they have got a fairly strong case.
Merely being "in his house" at the same time as someone he is possibly acquainted with is on an IRC channel proves sweet FA about who he is.
In fact, merely being associated with an IRC name that [i]knows[/i] something is not illegal.
Last time I checked its not illegal to chat with criminals on IRC (but it may get you caught up in a waste of space court case)
Possibly the best outcome would be for him to be found guilty but then be given a sentance significantly less (i.e. a $10 fine) than he was offered in the plea bargain.
I see one fatal flaw in your hypothesis. Warren Buffett didn't avoid derivatives because he didn't understand them. He avoided them because he did understand them.
Yeah, but a major player in the Fraud was a bessy mate of the Queen (Sir Fred Goodwin), making her lots of tax off poor folk to keep her Corgies in gold plated bowls, so of course the Beeb is going to find anything to blame but the people who did it.
Obviously everybody is too concerned about the threat of zombie ghosts to worry about the threat of some warm weather. One person gets bitten by a zombie ghost and there will be no way to prevent hoards of zombie ghosts taking over the whole world.
The fact NASA have lied on at least one occasion wrt Climate Change (Publishing winter 2000 vs summer 200x ice sheet data as evidence of long term ice sheet change) implies there is at least some political stance which is definitely sullying their reputation.
I'm generally of the opinion that the "PirateTV" story is something of a fabrication, only historic links I've found referring to the parties involved are:
That last link screams scapegoating and reeks of the complete lack of understanding of technology so typical of the Beeb back in 02. The first suggests thoic was more or less a non enitity.
It's kind of weird that they didn't go to Wikileaks.
Therefore it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they didn't go to wikileaks precisely because they wanted to take it down before anyone took a closer look. As much as I hate newscorp, they really aren't any different than the beeb - and this all just sounds like an effort by the Crown to turn the current duopoly between Sky and the BBC into a monopoly consisting solely of the Beeb, which would be an absolute disaster.
So the idea is that the majority of people will opt for personal safety rather than collective liberty, and thus acquiesce to the oppression.
But this idea is based on the now flawed assumption that there is "one" source of information and communication. When you have all the phone lines tapped and have virtually outlawed non sanctioned public meetings this may well be the case. But it is not the case anymore, Mass participation in groups like anonymous (who have very active anonet2 IRC chat channels, which are immune to this legislation) and Occupy (no idea, don't really care) are symbolic of a greater problem for the status quo.
The status quo has been rendered irrelevant by modern technology, these are not "subversives" in the sense of wanting to overthrow governments, they are "subversives" that are gods in a digital age and have no need to listen to "governments" opinion - "true" democracy.
The next generation coming through the works seem incredibly likely to simply refuse to pay tax to organisations that have no relevance to their daily lives. Without tax income, and with no way to manipulate the communication channels -governments as we know them simply cannot exist.
It is this that they are fighting against, but they are increasingly shouting in an empty forest.
Plenty already formed. Organisations like AF et al (including the MSMs favourite Anonymous) have never had larger membership (which is presumably why this is needed in the first place). Already well versed in keeping disagregated from their online ID and real life ID. Darknets these days are completely massive, anonet VPNs, tor and freenet etc arguably have.better content than the wider web these days, and are untouchable by these kind of regulations.
Right now these groups are (mostly) harmless. But I really wouldn't want to make an enemy of them.
To validate Godwins law, If western governments keep this up they will literally stimulate the digital equivalent of Oppenhiemers Nuclear Weapons.
They can also pick up Governmental Power-Up Bonuses from it because the citizens will become too intimidated to dissent once they've implemented it openly.
If that is what they were thinking I reckon they will get something of a shock. There is no better way to militarise subversives than to actually threaten them.
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You want to blow up the Olympics and behead the Queen before the opening ceremonies?
Good man, sounds like you are well placed to manifest the will of the people.
phwor!
And when the class is to make the video?
The UK has JANET for educational use, SuperJanet4 is currently 10Gbps. Costs virtually nothing to run fibre between schools (let alone $10,000 per month per school) and upgrade the routers. No reason they can't OWN THEIR OWN FIBRE.
I already have 50Mbps at home, going to 100Mbps sometime soon, with probably a 20Mbps backup - all for me.
Tech is moving quickly, keep up or fall behind.
You seem to think falling behind is the best option.
More fool you.
They day I have to do anything on the internet under government regulation.
Is the day I use a different internet.
At the point it's easier to leave than be a stupid prat who pleads guilty and offers $500 to settle a six figure debt.
The moral of this story is just deny all knowledge and ignore them.
And you miss the point that if that was the case he obviously wouldn't sign of IRC either.
Now, if he says on IRC
"BRB, just going to buy some Cheetos from the 247", then they film him leaving, going to the shop, going to the 247 and coming back with some Cheetos, then they have got a fairly strong case.
Merely being "in his house" at the same time as someone he is possibly acquainted with is on an IRC channel proves sweet FA about who he is.
In fact, merely being associated with an IRC name that [i]knows[/i] something is not illegal.
Last time I checked its not illegal to chat with criminals on IRC (but it may get you caught up in a waste of space court case)
Not really.
Only time I'm ever disconnected from the anonet/lulzsec/#dn42 IRC channels is when I shut down the computer.
Possibly the best outcome would be for him to be found guilty but then be given a sentance significantly less (i.e. a $10 fine) than he was offered in the plea bargain.
Is that even possible?
It's shocking to think a rooted computer needs to be switched on to be exploited.
Bullshit.
Not only does she appoint and fire all the cabinet ministers (including the PM, whom she meets every wednesday at 6pm), there is also that little thing called:
Royal Prerogative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Prerogative_in_the_United_Kingdom
I see one fatal flaw in your hypothesis. Warren Buffett didn't avoid derivatives because he didn't understand them. He avoided them because he did understand them.
Yeah, but a major player in the Fraud was a bessy mate of the Queen (Sir Fred Goodwin), making her lots of tax off poor folk to keep her Corgies in gold plated bowls, so of course the Beeb is going to find anything to blame but the people who did it.
It's almost a moral obligation to pirate these.
Obviously everybody is too concerned about the threat of zombie ghosts to worry about the threat of some warm weather. One person gets bitten by a zombie ghost and there will be no way to prevent hoards of zombie ghosts taking over the whole world.
Now run around
Panic
And
Shit yourself.
Yawn.
Failed.
Shot down.
Same difference I guess.
The fact NASA have lied on at least one occasion wrt Climate Change (Publishing winter 2000 vs summer 200x ice sheet data as evidence of long term ice sheet change) implies there is at least some political stance which is definitely sullying their reputation.
But will they make connecting to the regular internet illegal?
Cos if not then why would anyone choose there "clean" version?
Can we just kick the MPAA et al off our internet and be done with it. Who invited them anyway.
I'm generally of the opinion that the "PirateTV" story is something of a fabrication, only historic links I've found referring to the parties involved are:
http://www.hackmeeting.org/hackit98/LYNX/webzine.htm#thoic
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/1879859.stm
That last link screams scapegoating and reeks of the complete lack of understanding of technology so typical of the Beeb back in 02. The first suggests thoic was more or less a non enitity.
Therefore it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they didn't go to wikileaks precisely because they wanted to take it down before anyone took a closer look. As much as I hate newscorp, they really aren't any different than the beeb - and this all just sounds like an effort by the Crown to turn the current duopoly between Sky and the BBC into a monopoly consisting solely of the Beeb, which would be an absolute disaster.
But this idea is based on the now flawed assumption that there is "one" source of information and communication. When you have all the phone lines tapped and have virtually outlawed non sanctioned public meetings this may well be the case. But it is not the case anymore, Mass participation in groups like anonymous (who have very active anonet2 IRC chat channels, which are immune to this legislation) and Occupy (no idea, don't really care) are symbolic of a greater problem for the status quo.
The status quo has been rendered irrelevant by modern technology, these are not "subversives" in the sense of wanting to overthrow governments, they are "subversives" that are gods in a digital age and have no need to listen to "governments" opinion - "true" democracy.
The next generation coming through the works seem incredibly likely to simply refuse to pay tax to organisations that have no relevance to their daily lives. Without tax income, and with no way to manipulate the communication channels -governments as we know them simply cannot exist.
It is this that they are fighting against, but they are increasingly shouting in an empty forest.
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form?
Plenty already formed. Organisations like AF et al (including the MSMs favourite Anonymous) have never had larger membership (which is presumably why this is needed in the first place). Already well versed in keeping disagregated from their online ID and real life ID. Darknets these days are completely massive, anonet VPNs, tor and freenet etc arguably have.better content than the wider web these days, and are untouchable by these kind of regulations.
Right now these groups are (mostly) harmless. But I really wouldn't want to make an enemy of them.
To validate Godwins law, If western governments keep this up they will literally stimulate the digital equivalent of Oppenhiemers Nuclear Weapons.
If that is what they were thinking I reckon they will get something of a shock. There is no better way to militarise subversives than to actually threaten them.
I'm confused.
Why are they pretending they can't and aren't doing all this already?