-shrug- I was born here. I love this country, even when it is doing things I think are wrong. All my family is here. I'd rather stay here and try to help be a positive force for change than to just flee. At least for now.
> If you really believe there should be "worker protection laws," go live in socialist Europe
In "socialist Europe", or at least in many of the countries therein, there is vastly less violent crime, much, MUCH higher income mobility, many countries have standard 6 week paid vacation per year, 1 year paid maternity leave, education, health care, and unemployment benefits all covered, and they pay much less per capita for these services than we USians do. They also receive better QUALITY health care than US citizens do.
> I'm really tired of seeing this sort of thinking repeated over and over as > if it were to suddenly make the act of sharing copyrighted materials legal.
Perhaps you've misunderstood. I govern my actions by what I consider to be _moral_, not legal. Often those two classes overlap, but in many cases they don't. I suspect this is the motive behind the arguments you're seeing.
> A much better experiment would be to find people who have NEVER used computers in ANY form or OS. Give them > a configured Windows machine, and a configured Linux machine. THEN see which one gets used more. > Now that would actually be a USEFUL study.
And it's been done. And GNU/Linux won. And it was something like RedHat 7.3 with Gnome 1.4.
Hopefully somebody still has that story, as I've long since lost the link;)
Wrong ! Google for slmodem. The modems in every IBM made in the last 5 years work great. I know because I have to support them =) http://www.emperorlinux.com
-nod- While I'm sure we disagree some of the details of fiscal and environmental policy, your analysis of the tactics and lack-of-tactics at play are spot-on. Like Will Rogers, I belong to no organized political party: I'm a Democrat. I wish we could get our troops in lock-step as well as your side has.
That site is obviously not unbiased, but the primary sources they link to span the political spectrum, so choose for yourself.
In the future, please, PLEASE don't depend on liberal bloggers for your reality checks on the war... there's lots of good information out there, if you're genuinely interested in the truth and not just upholding a preconceived notion. Don't just "call bullshit", Google it and find out for yourself.
As for the below poster who thinks it's okay so long as they're all classified as combatants... you wouldn't try to oust an army that bombed your neighborhood and was imprisoning and raping your neighbors? Even if they said they were there to help?
Anyway, I'll leave this thread here. The Iraq war issue has been talked to death to the point that it's hard to find somebody who hasn't already made up their minds to the point that no new information can faze their resolve... I hope you have the same skepticism for stories saying that everything's going great as you do for the bad news; checking and rechecking sources is all I could ask anybody to do. =)
> GNOME (FreeType2) comes close. Windows XP doesn't. Mac OS X leads.
Respectfully disagree. I see more jaggies and faded-out lines on OS X (Panther, to be fair; my Beige can't run Tiger) than freetype2. Both stomp WinXP;)
It also makes a lot of difference what fonts you use. Gnome looks best with Bitstream Vera Sans, because that's what it's tested with. Likewise Apple and Lucida Grande.
> but you were completely silent on the butchery before hand.
Felt this deserved individual treatment. I'm curious, how much money or time did YOU donate to U.N. relief efforts in the 90's? American Red Cross? Don't make presumptions about me, or about anybody who protests this murderous war. We're doing our part to save lives. Are you?
> That's one of the reasons for the invasion... TO STOP THE BUTCHERY!
No, the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq was to disarm them of their weapons of mass destruction and to force them to dissolve their ties to Al Qaeda. The humanitarian justification only emerged when it was proven that those stated reasons were based on lies.
Since you're such a humanitarian, with so much concern for the well-being of the Iraqis, does it matter to you that more Iraqis have been killed during this occupation than were killed by Saddam in the entire time since the first Gulf War? To say nothing of the rape and torture in Abu Graihb. The fact that Saddam was a butcher doesn't excuse anybody else's butchery.
Yes. Have you ever read anything else written by the founders?
The Senate is not just a smaller House of Representatives. It's intended to be a more deliberative, slower moving body. As an apparent conservative, this should be an important point to you... the point of the Senate being set up the way it is is to keep things from happening too quickly or easily, to raise the bar for a law to be passed or a lifetime appointment to go through. The Senate is there to prevent the tyrrany of the majority, and to prevent runaway government. Frist's Nuclear Option would derail that.
> Not really suprising. Freetype2 is the *best* font rendering package available.. opensource or otherwise.
That's been my experience. Whenever I have to use Windows or Mac for an extended period of time, I snag the Bitstream Vera ttfs and install them, and they still don't look quite like what I'm used to... and I must say, Apple's Lucida Grande really looks snappy in Firefox on Gnome =)
> Nevermind fussing about rules changes for filibustering in the Senate.
Actually, please don't nevermind it. Don't let them fundamentally undo the Constitutional purpose of the Senate just because we're in shock over this horrible bill. This has been the Bush administration's methodology all along; attack decency and liberty on so many fronts that anybody who's paying attention gets outrage fatigue and there's not a coordinated effort to stop all the worst provisions. For instance, the butchery of Iraq has drawn off so much attention from activist groups that Bush has been able to rape the environment and the economy with much less fanfare.
Hmmm... that's rather surprising and non-Apple-like. FWIW, freetype can handle vertical subpixel AA as well as several different subpixel orders. Rather unusual for Apple to bork something like that up.
> This sounds like it's good for consumers, and Microsofts wishes to track > down the retailers that are defrauding customers don't seem out of line.
-nod- Also, I'm always happy to see Microsoft do anything that forces people to actually pay for it if they want to use it. Makes the value proposition for free software that much more attractive.
> STABLE in the Debian sense doesn't mean "it won't crash".. it means the package dependencies > are stable; that you won't find missing packages. and that's ALL it means.
Actually, that's what testing means. Stable means they'll never bump to a new version if it breaks backwards-compatibility.
> Additionally, the phones I've got default to a Bluetooth radio-off mode...
> ya can't see them unless you turn them on
Wouldn't you have to leave it on (and vulnerable) in order to use one of those
fancy wireless headsets tho?
> It truely is the best nation on earth.
<rhetorical>
Why do so many people think that suggesting ways to make your country better means that you hate it?
</rhetorical>
> So why don't you move there?
-shrug- I was born here. I love this country, even when it is doing things I think are wrong. All my family is here.
I'd rather stay here and try to help be a positive force for change than to just flee. At least for now.
> If you really believe there should be "worker protection laws," go live in socialist Europe
In "socialist Europe", or at least in many of the countries therein, there is vastly less violent crime,
much, MUCH higher income mobility, many countries have standard 6 week paid vacation per year, 1 year
paid maternity leave, education, health care, and unemployment benefits all covered, and they pay much
less per capita for these services than we USians do. They also receive better QUALITY health care than
US citizens do.
Just F.Y.I.
> I'm really tired of seeing this sort of thinking repeated over and over as
> if it were to suddenly make the act of sharing copyrighted materials legal.
Perhaps you've misunderstood. I govern my actions by what I consider to be
_moral_, not legal. Often those two classes overlap, but in many cases they
don't. I suspect this is the motive behind the arguments you're seeing.
> We don't need to get beyond what human eyes can
see.
Tell it to the people who insist on a sustained 200fps whilst running their monitors are
retracing at 85hz.
> A much better experiment would be to find people who have NEVER used computers in ANY form or OS. Give them
;)
> a configured Windows machine, and a configured Linux machine. THEN see which one gets used more.
> Now that would actually be a USEFUL study.
And it's been done. And GNU/Linux won. And it was something like RedHat 7.3 with Gnome 1.4.
Hopefully somebody still has that story, as I've long since lost the link
Wrong ! Google for slmodem. The modems in every IBM made in the last 5 years work great. I know because I have to
support them =) http://www.emperorlinux.com
> Next thing you know someone will start trying to distribute the stuff on some website ...
Nah, everyone knows that pirates use bittorrent.
-nod- While I'm sure we disagree some of the details of fiscal and environmental policy, your analysis of the
tactics and lack-of-tactics at play are spot-on. Like Will Rogers, I belong to no organized political party: I'm a
Democrat. I wish we could get our troops in lock-step as well as your side has.
> I call bullshit. Care to document your assertion?
Plenty of links here:
http://www.worldrevolution.org/newsfeature/16
That site is obviously not unbiased, but the primary sources they link to span the political spectrum,
so choose for yourself.
In the future, please, PLEASE don't depend on liberal bloggers for your reality checks on the war... there's lots of
good information out there, if you're genuinely interested in the truth and not just upholding a preconceived notion.
Don't just "call bullshit", Google it and find out for yourself.
As for the below poster who thinks it's okay so long as they're all classified as combatants... you wouldn't
try to oust an army that bombed your neighborhood and was imprisoning and raping your neighbors?
Even if they said they were there to help?
Anyway, I'll leave this thread here. The Iraq war issue has been talked to death to the point that it's hard
to find somebody who hasn't already made up their minds to the point that no new information can faze their
resolve... I hope you have the same skepticism for stories saying that everything's going great as you do for
the bad news; checking and rechecking sources is all I could ask anybody to do. =)
> GNOME (FreeType2) comes close. Windows XP doesn't. Mac OS X leads.
;)
Respectfully disagree. I see more jaggies and faded-out lines on OS X (Panther, to be fair; my Beige can't run Tiger)
than freetype2. Both stomp WinXP
It also makes a lot of difference what fonts you use. Gnome looks best with Bitstream Vera Sans, because that's
what it's tested with. Likewise Apple and Lucida Grande.
> but you were completely silent on the butchery before hand.
Felt this deserved individual treatment. I'm curious, how much money or time did YOU donate to U.N. relief
efforts in the 90's? American Red Cross? Don't make presumptions about me, or about anybody who protests
this murderous war. We're doing our part to save lives. Are you?
> That's one of the reasons for the invasion... TO STOP THE BUTCHERY!
No, the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq was to disarm them of their weapons of mass destruction and to force them
to dissolve their ties to Al Qaeda. The humanitarian justification only emerged when it was proven that those stated
reasons were based on lies.
Since you're such a humanitarian, with so much concern for the well-being of the Iraqis, does it matter to you
that more Iraqis have been killed during this occupation than were killed by Saddam in the entire time
since the first Gulf War? To say nothing of the rape and torture in Abu Graihb. The fact that Saddam was
a butcher doesn't excuse anybody else's butchery.
> Have you ever read the Constitution?
Yes. Have you ever read anything else written by the founders?
The Senate is not just a smaller House of Representatives. It's intended to be a more deliberative,
slower moving body. As an apparent conservative, this should be an important point to you... the point of the
Senate being set up the way it is is to keep things from happening too quickly or easily, to raise the bar
for a law to be passed or a lifetime appointment to go through. The Senate is there to prevent the tyrrany of
the majority, and to prevent runaway government. Frist's Nuclear Option would derail that.
> Not really suprising. Freetype2 is the *best* font rendering package available.. opensource or otherwise.
That's been my experience. Whenever I have to use Windows or Mac for an extended period of time, I snag the
Bitstream Vera ttfs and install them, and they still don't look quite like what I'm used to... and I must say,
Apple's Lucida Grande really looks snappy in Firefox on Gnome =)
> Nevermind fussing about rules changes for filibustering in the Senate.
Actually, please don't nevermind it. Don't let them fundamentally undo the Constitutional purpose of the Senate
just because we're in shock over this horrible bill. This has been the Bush administration's methodology all
along; attack decency and liberty on so many fronts that anybody who's paying attention gets outrage fatigue
and there's not a coordinated effort to stop all the worst provisions. For instance, the butchery of Iraq has
drawn off so much attention from activist groups that Bush has been able to rape the environment and the economy
with much less fanfare.
Vigilance!
> it screws up the subpixel rendering though.
Hmmm... that's rather surprising and non-Apple-like. FWIW, freetype can handle vertical subpixel AA as
well as several different subpixel orders. Rather unusual for Apple to bork something like that up.
> you are using My-SQL... something goes wrong...
what do you do?
Hmmm... does somebody want to point out to this guy that MySQL is, and has for a very long time, been funded by professional support?
> And what about Linux?
http://www.porchdogsoft.com/products/howl/
> This sounds like it's good for consumers, and Microsofts wishes to track
> down the retailers that are defrauding customers don't seem out of line.
-nod- Also, I'm always happy to see Microsoft do anything that forces people
to actually pay for it if they want to use it. Makes the value proposition for
free software that much more attractive.
My kingdom for a mod point !
> the slashbots love to bash America and embrace anything that's "Not America,"
-shrug- I'd accept an iPod tax if we got universal health care.
> 'iNotify' Apple about this release and let's see what they have to say about 'iT'.
If I'm not mistaken, inotify is actually a play on the word "inode", since that's what it's watching.
> STABLE in the Debian sense doesn't mean "it won't crash".. it means the package dependencies
s tem.en.html#s-dists
> are stable; that you won't find missing packages. and that's ALL it means.
Actually, that's what testing means. Stable means they'll never bump to a new version if it
breaks backwards-compatibility.
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-sy
I guess I'll just get back to assuming control of the global telecommunications network, then. -sigh-