Interesting that they're now allowing ISPs and others to make customized versions, with their own title bars, throbber icons, and the like... this is one thing that Microsoft did that really got them in good with ISPs, and probably has a lot to do with why that piece of crap browser is gaining so much ground in the Windows arena.
List of why I think IE is a piece of my shit is available upon request.
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> Where was it I read that one of the most attractive things about computers is when it doesnt do what you want, you know its because of a mistake youve made, not because it doesnt like you, or it doesnt feel like it or something.
That would be from the Hacker's Manifesto, by The Mentor.
"This is our world now, the world of the electron and the switch... the beauty of the baud..."
Of course brand recognition is important, take a business class. That's why they make sure you KNOW when you fire up that player that it's an APPLE product. The reason ? It reinforces the overall notion that most people have that "Apples are good at graphics". This is still the pervasive belief (I would stop short of calling it a myth, because the damn things ARE good at graphics), and it's one that Apple wants to cultivate to hell and back.
Well, for the most part, Quicktime is already supported on your main 2 rampantly-proprietary operating systems of choice, and we're pushing for a change... it just seemed to make sense. Hey, there's always the comment field.;-)
I disagree, I think a Linux client done by Apple would be perfectly fine. Okay, a library would be more flexible, and the source would be ideal, but the fact is, what's in it for apple ? The brand recognition. They're not going to make an enormous amount of revenue off of the commercial player, but they CAN get market- and mind-share out of the bargain, which is what they need in the desktop battle. And as for the benefit to the community, most NEW linux users, particularly suits, are going to prefer consistancy and familiarity to flexibility and power. Not saying I agree, I just understand.
Myself and Jon Reeves Hall of the Linux Users Group at Georgia Tech are organizing this petetion, and so far response has been great. Let Apple know that the Linux community will support them by BUYING the commercial version of the player if it's available, as that is their main benefit in doing the port (and so few Windows users buy it, perhaps we'll become a tier-one development platform =)
This used to be "the good fight", until Sun started sucking worse than ever... now that they've gone and went fascist with Java, and started screwing the Linux community 6 ways to Sunday, this looks like just another bitchfest between two evil empires... at least I don't have to waste brain-cycles figuring out who to root for...
I've got my mirror up ! Anonymous ftp to thewalrus.gt.ed.net
Furthermore, I'm currently discussing with the LUG@GT (Linux Users Group at Georgia Tech), and I have an appointment to consult with legal counsel about our LUG organizing a legal defense fund. I have no idea what needs to be done on our part, only that SOMETHING has to be done, so if anybody can offer advice, it would be most appreciated.
Where do you get your kernels ? I've been checking twice a day, and just found 2.3.40 today. I check ftp.uk.kernel.org, ftp.us.kernel.org, ftp.sa.kernel.org, and ftp.cc.gatech.edu.
Clearly the rumour that this is a chip for handheld devices is a well-founded one. "Crusoe: We rethought the microprocessor to create a whole new world of mobility."
what about the work that still needs to be done on nVidia's existing products ? 3D performance with the TNT2 and earlier cards was mediocre last time I checked, and was essentially on hold until XFree 4.0 brings DRI to the table. And last I heard, 3D on the Geforce doesn't exist yet.
> If that doesn't work he'll be forced to develop thermonuclear weapons.
Why develop them when you can do what any self-respecting terrorist does, and buy them ? I mean hell, the man is worth just slightly more than the gross domestic product of Finland, for Chrissake...
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Interesting that they're now allowing ISPs and others to make customized versions, with their own title bars, throbber icons, and the like... this is one thing that Microsoft did that really got them in good with ISPs, and probably has a lot to do with why that piece of crap browser is gaining so much ground in the Windows arena.
List of why I think IE is a piece of my shit is available upon request.
> no more 2330.flame haikus for you!
Gods, can I never be free of you people and your tumescent lobster posts ?
> so make this -1
That's six syllables, dolt.
My complements to fluxrad (poster #1), he beat me to the draw on this one ;-)
Ummmm.... Suzie ?
> Where was it I read that one of the most attractive things about computers is when it doesnt do what you want, you know its because of a mistake youve made, not because it doesnt like you, or it doesnt feel like it or something.
That would be from the Hacker's Manifesto, by The Mentor.
"This is our world now, the world of the electron and the switch... the beauty of the baud..."
Thank you, sir (or ma'am), you've come up with a wonderful idea and one I intend to follow thru with.
Not unless you can fool the script, Mr Longdong, we're watching for that kind of crap. ;-)
Of course brand recognition is important, take a business class. That's why they make sure you KNOW when you fire up that player that it's an APPLE product. The reason ? It reinforces the overall notion that most people have that "Apples are good at graphics". This is still the pervasive belief (I would stop short of calling it a myth, because the damn things ARE good at graphics), and it's one that Apple wants to cultivate to hell and back.
Well, for the most part, Quicktime is already supported on your main 2 rampantly-proprietary operating systems of choice, and we're pushing for a change... it just seemed to make sense. Hey, there's always the comment field. ;-)
We're just rounding the corner of 2400 posts now... great googily moogily =)
Yes, it is, and yes, it's making unhappy noises right now, but we like it. =)
We're already over 2200 =)
There's not Sorensen codec support, which is what stuff like movie trailers are encoded in 9 times out of 10
I disagree, I think a Linux client done by Apple would be perfectly fine. Okay, a library would be more flexible, and the source would be ideal, but the fact is, what's in it for apple ? The brand recognition. They're not going to make an enormous amount of revenue off of the commercial player, but they CAN get market- and mind-share out of the bargain, which is what they need in the desktop battle. And as for the benefit to the community, most NEW linux users, particularly suits, are going to prefer consistancy and familiarity to flexibility and power. Not saying I agree, I just understand.
Myself and Jon Reeves Hall of the Linux Users Group at Georgia Tech are organizing this petetion, and so far response has been great. Let Apple know that the Linux community will support them by BUYING the commercial version of the player if it's available, as that is their main benefit in doing the port (and so few Windows users buy it, perhaps we'll become a tier-one development platform =)
--Josh Litherland, LUG@GT
Well, if coding for Win2k is anything like coding for Win98, it'll be more along the lines of:
*pop*
*whack*
*pop*
*pop*
*whack*
*pop*
*pop*
*pop*
*pop**whack*
*pop**pop**pop**pop**pop**pop**pop**pop**pop*
*install linux*
This used to be "the good fight", until Sun started sucking worse than ever... now that they've gone and went fascist with Java, and started screwing the Linux community 6 ways to Sunday, this looks like just another bitchfest between two evil empires... at least I don't have to waste brain-cycles figuring out who to root for...
You had a windows 2000 box seized ? Urk... assuming you're not a registered beta tester, there's yet another hokey charge they can pin on you.
I've got my mirror up !
Anonymous ftp to thewalrus.gt.ed.net
Furthermore, I'm currently discussing with the LUG@GT (Linux Users Group at Georgia Tech), and I have an appointment to consult with legal counsel about our LUG organizing a legal defense fund. I have no idea what needs to be done on our part, only that SOMETHING has to be done, so if anybody can offer advice, it would be most appreciated.
Where do you get your kernels ?
I've been checking twice a day, and just found 2.3.40 today. I check ftp.uk.kernel.org, ftp.us.kernel.org, ftp.sa.kernel.org, and ftp.cc.gatech.edu.
Clearly the rumour that this is a chip for handheld devices is a well-founded one. "Crusoe: We rethought the microprocessor to create a whole new world of mobility."
what about the work that still needs to be done on nVidia's existing products ? 3D performance with the TNT2 and earlier cards was mediocre last time I checked, and was essentially on hold until XFree 4.0 brings DRI to the table. And last I heard, 3D on the Geforce doesn't exist yet.
> If that doesn't work he'll be forced to develop thermonuclear weapons.
Why develop them when you can do what any self-respecting terrorist does, and buy them ? I mean hell, the man is worth just slightly more than the gross domestic product of Finland, for Chrissake...
> I have never seen anyone purposely use the Windows GUI on an OS other than windows. Who would want to?
*cough*Fvwm95*cough*