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How about anybody who can't enjoy a LOTR movie is a stuck up snot. So what if there's some "desensitization" going on. Why don't you just take movies for what they are: entertainment. BE ENTERTAINED. If you're looking for shakespearean dialogue and touching stories, go move near an independant movie theater and stopping taking up seats at my local theater so you can sneer and bark that movies me and every other human with a beating heart can enjoy. And if you can't find some deeper meaning in LOTR then, my friend, you are dense.
If there had not been those humorous moments in LOTR, it would have not have been a Peter Jackson movie. Maybe since I saw his portfolio of horror movies and laughed my bloody ass off before we even knew about LOTR, I have a greater appreciation. But frankly... grow a sense of humor, it's not hard.
The post says you can run MacOS apps on Linux on a PowerPC, doesn't this defeat the purpose of running linux on a powerpc? Why not just dual boot if you're going to have it on a powerpc anyway? I can understand Mac-On-Linux if it was an x86, but this is Mac-On-Linux-On-Mac.
Yeah or it could be the fact that it has only been in development for roughly 8 months. Most of the time has been getting the _technology_ in place. They don't start building the storyline in until it is actually feasible to play the game on a technology level. Blizzard knows how to make games.
MP3 Has charisma, it has clout, it has marketshare. We aren't going to see portable ogg players for at least 2 years. Unless ogg is a substantially huge boost in technology over mp3, it's just going to be another dead technology. People said the same thing about VQF and WMV, the only reason WMV is still in existence is because microsoft is behind it. Otherwise it would be dead. I mean, if somehow we start seeing some amazing things being done with ogg I don't think it's going anywhere. The no-patents thing is a definite advantage, but unless there is a hardware market, I don't see people opting not to download mp3 files to find an ogg file, or converting their entire collections to ogg. If we start seeing things like car ogg players, or wrist watches running linux running ogg players... I predict failure.
However, you have to understand that a large number of machines that use FreeBSD don't have the capability for a good GUI install program. The best they can do is what they already have. If anything, a pretty gui install should be an option, but it should not be the exclusive install procedure. Here's an idea, how about an entirely scriptable install? Make it so that I can write a script in a certain format that chooses all my options before hand and doesn't require any input during the procedure. Network admins would love that, set a script going with the FreeBSD CD in the drive and go to lunch for an hour.
Desktop operating systems have to meet a few criterion before people can truly accept them as such.
First of all, when new software comes out, it has to be readily available on that operating system. Many people choose windows because most games come out on that platform. And if they come out on any alternatives they're mainly for Mac and Linux. If we're lucky enough (BSD people) somebody will port it from Linux to FreeBSD, but that rarely happens quickly. So Linux is a much more viable operating system as a go-between because even the most benevolent software designers who see the potential of open-source software rarely go deeper than Linux.
I think that is the main thing holding FreeBSD back. Aside from a few minor things as well, such as the not-so-laymen install procedure, I think it is a fairly good desktop system. I'm thinking about putting it on my laptop (which could truly benefit from the optimisation). But I don't know how to do a lot of things (such as set up ppp dial-up) and a lot of my friends use it for Word Processing when I let them borrow it.
FreeBSD is a fantastic operating system, but it hasn't been able to overcome the "Linux Craze" that people have gone through, some just choosing linux because it was the first thing they saw and never thought to investigate other systems, and others because of years of experience. But BSD will eventually get more exposure and may even overcome Linux. This might be a sad day though, many people love FreeBSD for what it is and always was: A server operating system. When or If it ever migrates to desktop systems, people will stray from focusing on optimizing the server components and concentrate on other facets, leaving admins to migrate to other, more server-oriented operating systems.
Moral of the story is, we should be careful in trying to push BSD to the desktop (open) market. Though I would love to see it happen, I don't want it to loose that "sparkle" in Daemon's eye.
How about this... In order to preserve the source of a closed source system:
Package two files as one. One file is the encoded source code (for closed source) or just a tgz with all the source (for open source) we'll call this Part A. Then add Part B, an operating system emulator that is made to do only a single thing: run a fake os, very small, and execute a compiler that is built into the emulator to compile the source and then spit out the final binary onto the system...
For instance. Very simple hypothetical example.
I write a program called "DecBin" that converts decimal numbers to binary. I take the source files and put them in a.tgz file. Then I choose my compiler. There is a program that takes the chosen compiler (on the source system's disk) and puts it into the emulator... then it packs the emulator/compiler with the tgz of the source into a single binary file for a specified OS.
Now whenever somebody wants to install my program, they execute the binary. The binary unpacks the tgz and then runs its emulator/compiler on the source code and then spits out the binary as a.out or something.
I don't see how the other replies to this post are so pissy about it. I completely agree -- look at the alternatives. I had to set up a new machine for a friend. We had to pick an OS. We didn't want an old one so we had to choose
Win98 = old but compatible
WinME = utterly horrible (And people bash the mac for dumbing down the OS)
Win2K = Very incompatible
We eventually settled on WinME. But these reasons basically sum up the issues. Why must people have such animosity towards those who point out the truth, the logic, and the real reasons. We can count the good features on a single hand, but it'll take a small african country to count the problems on standard fingers.
Shakey UI? My BSD machine has an uptime of 20 days, the only reason X has ever crashed is because I was running beta software. On my Windows machine, explorer crashes every 5 days whether it's needed or not. I'm sure if Microsoft had never come along and somehow the Linux and BSD kernels had come about, people would be looking at Windows as "that quirky UI that's slowly making it's approach on the desktop market." And as far as code-bloat, it's more than many systems have. At least you can LOOK at the code. The reason XFree86 has so much stuff is because people want it. BeOS costs money as well, and as far as I can tell, MacOSX is the only decent OS that will be available for a while on the Mac market. I think the main argument here was whether or not Linux should be worried about its Mac faction because OSX will be BSD... developers will have to switch to that style if they want to continue development. This, to me at least, is a feeble argument because the only OS to run on a Mac is MacOS(9/X) so I think everybody is in their right place.
How about this -- A place like distributed.net uses some secure method to track who you are and then clocks how many hours you spend running their software, then, every year they submit those hours to your national revenue service which then deducts those hours at a rate from your taxes each year (Any amount I would be happy with, 5 cents would yield $360 dollars for 300 days. 50 cents would yield $3,600 a fair good chunk of change). Maybe even a certain amount for different programs, so companies could pay more or less to have their program get run more often. This brings up the issue of companies monopolizing that computer time. This shouldn't be an issue since the user still has control over whose programs they run and maybe how much CPU time they get. This would also bring about competition, 0.5 to 2 cent hikes between competing companies every week would bring in a nice quadratic curve to the function of your tax deductible income. There is one bad issue which is that organizations that can't afford to pay for the distributed computing would be without these such services. In that case, an incentive program could be put in place where legitimate non-profit organizations get free distributed computing but the user still gets the cash. The process still has the same special interest factor, you can still run SETI or mprime even though it may only be 2.5 cents instead of the 5 cents microsoft will pay to have you send them every thing from the web-sites you visit every day to your keystrokes. The only group I see losing out would be groups between the free and ultra-high rate. Since a non-profit organization gets the service for free, and a high-rate company will get most of the time, what happens to companies that can only afford prices at 10-15% of the highest rates. It's not a perfect idea, but it's a start. It's eCharity. But then again, what are the chances something so practical and logical could actually occur in a government such as the United States:)
That evening we sat between two groups of people who used to play D&D alot, I know this because they were talking about statistics and spells that certain characters should have, heh. After the movie both groups were saying stuff like "Just goes to show you that hollywood really knows how to f**k up a good concept." and "I think I'll start playing VtM instead of D&D from now on." The funniest part of the evening was when I saw a big red monster truck parked at the movie theatre with a tiny white honda civic literally underneath it's back bumper.
So when do we go? You know... get on the big ship and abandon earth to go live on mars just to find out that "Oops, we forgot to convert to metrics... there is no water."
I got a free domain from namezero.com and it happens to be: f?ckingjihad.com, whether I can register this after the period that they ask for you to wait, with a larger domain name registrar is a nother question, but at least for now, f?ckingjihad.com is at my bidding. MUAHAHAHA.
Simply because you do not use e-mail for purposes other than personal correspondence doesn't mean others don't use it for more important reasons. I use e-mail to do business, talking to clients about money, web-site information. Passwords and account information is sent to me over my e-mail account. My e-mail box isn't my life, but it is often the center of my career because I work at home and I transfer electronic documents such as images over it quite frequently.
Yeah, namely the thousands of e-mail addresses and personal information profiles they could be selling to insurance companies. That or essentially nullify the existence of my ISP's privacy policy, which I value dearly. I don't want ANYBODY looking into my personal correspondence with others. If that means we won't be arresting hardcore computer felons, so be it. The freedom of others should not be jeopardized in order to prevent or infiltrate a few minor crimes.
in my class we use codewarrior as well but my teacher said that as long as we can compile our programs at school with codewarrior there isn't a problem. So what I did was just use notepad for my cpp files and compile em with the borland dos compiler to test. As far as the principle of what the teacher said, yes it is pretty negative to view it that way, but almost anybody who takes c++ to heart and wants to continue learning it will move on to learn other development environments. There's really no point in teaching a class of 20 people to program in the long term with harder methods when only about 3-5 of em are gonna continue programming on their own (unless it's like an employee training kinda thing).
You state that it's nVidia's drivers that allow it, its the ASUS drivers for (I think) the v7xxx line of GeForce cards, so it isn't nVidia who is doing the cheating, it's ASUS!
I don't consider myself a programmer in any degree, but I am, however, a master at HTML. I know its not really that simple a language, but I've managed to put together many SOLID, WORKING, web-sites with graphics that fit and decent colors. I abide by the rules of neat coding and I am a master of photoshop 4. People are always asking me questions about HTML and Graphics and things and I think to myself "If only I was there to help me out in the beginning". I think this means that in order for up-and-coming students of any school, upper-classmen or just people who know more should help the lesser ones to get better. I learned on my own, and as a result I gained an intimate knowledge of standards (because I drew my knowledge from many good ethically designed sites) but had somebody guided me on earlier I could have learned a little faster, maybe even moved on to programming. Right now I'm trying to learn C++ in my AP CS class and Perl on my own. I'm getting help from people who know more than me and its helping me alot. So basically... if someone you know is trying to learn, give em some knowledge. I can't tell you how many times I've taught flash or tables to people.
Well, think of it this way: If the AIWA one costs too much, competitors will jump in and then we'll have a race for the best cd-mp3 player (Like nvidia vs. 3dfx, intel vs. amd), eventually leading to 200 dollar multi-cd mp3 players, possible within the year! Fantabulous.
Not everybody has a car! I want a portable one! I mean, I could burn one big friggin CD w/ like 100-150 songs on the mofo and play it with some clear plastic (stealth), 1.5", sattelite headphones. Damn, can you even devise the uses for that? Couple that with a nice watch-style remote controller and college is a breeze!
Eventually it will get to the point where the remote control is a ring and the headphone is just a little hearing-aid type thing. The mp3 player will be the size of a thick credit card and the disc will be a 2" diameter mini-dvd. Damn I love technology.
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How about anybody who can't enjoy a LOTR movie is a stuck up snot. So what if there's some "desensitization" going on. Why don't you just take movies for what they are: entertainment. BE ENTERTAINED. If you're looking for shakespearean dialogue and touching stories, go move near an independant movie theater and stopping taking up seats at my local theater so you can sneer and bark that movies me and every other human with a beating heart can enjoy. And if you can't find some deeper meaning in LOTR then, my friend, you are dense.
If there had not been those humorous moments in LOTR, it would have not have been a Peter Jackson movie. Maybe since I saw his portfolio of horror movies and laughed my bloody ass off before we even knew about LOTR, I have a greater appreciation. But frankly... grow a sense of humor, it's not hard.
Give them WiFi so we can get all their passwords! Muaha!
The post says you can run MacOS apps on Linux on a PowerPC, doesn't this defeat the purpose of running linux on a powerpc? Why not just dual boot if you're going to have it on a powerpc anyway? I can understand Mac-On-Linux if it was an x86, but this is Mac-On-Linux-On-Mac.
Yeah or it could be the fact that it has only been in development for roughly 8 months. Most of the time has been getting the _technology_ in place. They don't start building the storyline in until it is actually feasible to play the game on a technology level. Blizzard knows how to make games.
MP3 Has charisma, it has clout, it has marketshare. We aren't going to see portable ogg players for at least 2 years. Unless ogg is a substantially huge boost in technology over mp3, it's just going to be another dead technology. People said the same thing about VQF and WMV, the only reason WMV is still in existence is because microsoft is behind it. Otherwise it would be dead. I mean, if somehow we start seeing some amazing things being done with ogg I don't think it's going anywhere. The no-patents thing is a definite advantage, but unless there is a hardware market, I don't see people opting not to download mp3 files to find an ogg file, or converting their entire collections to ogg. If we start seeing things like car ogg players, or wrist watches running linux running ogg players... I predict failure.
it probably meant horizontally - unless they are incredible stupid. Unfortunately it's probably 10x as likely that the former is correct.
However, you have to understand that a large number of machines that use FreeBSD don't have the capability for a good GUI install program. The best they can do is what they already have. If anything, a pretty gui install should be an option, but it should not be the exclusive install procedure. Here's an idea, how about an entirely scriptable install? Make it so that I can write a script in a certain format that chooses all my options before hand and doesn't require any input during the procedure. Network admins would love that, set a script going with the FreeBSD CD in the drive and go to lunch for an hour.
Desktop operating systems have to meet a few criterion before people can truly accept them as such.
First of all, when new software comes out, it has to be readily available on that operating system. Many people choose windows because most games come out on that platform. And if they come out on any alternatives they're mainly for Mac and Linux. If we're lucky enough (BSD people) somebody will port it from Linux to FreeBSD, but that rarely happens quickly. So Linux is a much more viable operating system as a go-between because even the most benevolent software designers who see the potential of open-source software rarely go deeper than Linux.
I think that is the main thing holding FreeBSD back. Aside from a few minor things as well, such as the not-so-laymen install procedure, I think it is a fairly good desktop system. I'm thinking about putting it on my laptop (which could truly benefit from the optimisation). But I don't know how to do a lot of things (such as set up ppp dial-up) and a lot of my friends use it for Word Processing when I let them borrow it.
FreeBSD is a fantastic operating system, but it hasn't been able to overcome the "Linux Craze" that people have gone through, some just choosing linux because it was the first thing they saw and never thought to investigate other systems, and others because of years of experience. But BSD will eventually get more exposure and may even overcome Linux. This might be a sad day though, many people love FreeBSD for what it is and always was: A server operating system. When or If it ever migrates to desktop systems, people will stray from focusing on optimizing the server components and concentrate on other facets, leaving admins to migrate to other, more server-oriented operating systems.
Moral of the story is, we should be careful in trying to push BSD to the desktop (open) market. Though I would love to see it happen, I don't want it to loose that "sparkle" in Daemon's eye.
I don't know why I feel like saying this, it's just inciting a troll mod but:
need I point out:
stevenl writes "A new project...
The post was written by the person of the name signified in bold.
How about this... In order to preserve the source of a closed source system:
.tgz file. Then I choose my compiler. There is a program that takes the chosen compiler (on the source system's disk) and puts it into the emulator... then it packs the emulator/compiler with the tgz of the source into a single binary file for a specified OS.
Package two files as one. One file is the encoded source code (for closed source) or just a tgz with all the source (for open source) we'll call this Part A. Then add Part B, an operating system emulator that is made to do only a single thing: run a fake os, very small, and execute a compiler that is built into the emulator to compile the source and then spit out the final binary onto the system...
For instance. Very simple hypothetical example.
I write a program called "DecBin" that converts decimal numbers to binary. I take the source files and put them in a
Now whenever somebody wants to install my program, they execute the binary. The binary unpacks the tgz and then runs its emulator/compiler on the source code and then spits out the binary as a.out or something.
Just an idea...
I don't see how the other replies to this post are so pissy about it. I completely agree -- look at the alternatives. I had to set up a new machine for a friend. We had to pick an OS. We didn't want an old one so we had to choose
Win98 = old but compatible
WinME = utterly horrible (And people bash the mac for dumbing down the OS)
Win2K = Very incompatible
We eventually settled on WinME. But these reasons basically sum up the issues. Why must people have such animosity towards those who point out the truth, the logic, and the real reasons. We can count the good features on a single hand, but it'll take a small african country to count the problems on standard fingers.
Shakey UI? My BSD machine has an uptime of 20 days, the only reason X has ever crashed is because I was running beta software. On my Windows machine, explorer crashes every 5 days whether it's needed or not. I'm sure if Microsoft had never come along and somehow the Linux and BSD kernels had come about, people would be looking at Windows as "that quirky UI that's slowly making it's approach on the desktop market." And as far as code-bloat, it's more than many systems have. At least you can LOOK at the code. The reason XFree86 has so much stuff is because people want it. BeOS costs money as well, and as far as I can tell, MacOSX is the only decent OS that will be available for a while on the Mac market. I think the main argument here was whether or not Linux should be worried about its Mac faction because OSX will be BSD... developers will have to switch to that style if they want to continue development. This, to me at least, is a feeble argument because the only OS to run on a Mac is MacOS(9/X) so I think everybody is in their right place.
How about this -- A place like distributed.net uses some secure method to track who you are and then clocks how many hours you spend running their software, then, every year they submit those hours to your national revenue service which then deducts those hours at a rate from your taxes each year (Any amount I would be happy with, 5 cents would yield $360 dollars for 300 days. 50 cents would yield $3,600 a fair good chunk of change). Maybe even a certain amount for different programs, so companies could pay more or less to have their program get run more often. This brings up the issue of companies monopolizing that computer time. This shouldn't be an issue since the user still has control over whose programs they run and maybe how much CPU time they get. This would also bring about competition, 0.5 to 2 cent hikes between competing companies every week would bring in a nice quadratic curve to the function of your tax deductible income. There is one bad issue which is that organizations that can't afford to pay for the distributed computing would be without these such services. In that case, an incentive program could be put in place where legitimate non-profit organizations get free distributed computing but the user still gets the cash. The process still has the same special interest factor, you can still run SETI or mprime even though it may only be 2.5 cents instead of the 5 cents microsoft will pay to have you send them every thing from the web-sites you visit every day to your keystrokes. The only group I see losing out would be groups between the free and ultra-high rate. Since a non-profit organization gets the service for free, and a high-rate company will get most of the time, what happens to companies that can only afford prices at 10-15% of the highest rates. It's not a perfect idea, but it's a start. It's eCharity. But then again, what are the chances something so practical and logical could actually occur in a government such as the United States :)
Didn't they make one that ran on a watch?
That evening we sat between two groups of people who used to play D&D alot, I know this because they were talking about statistics and spells that certain characters should have, heh. After the movie both groups were saying stuff like "Just goes to show you that hollywood really knows how to f**k up a good concept." and "I think I'll start playing VtM instead of D&D from now on." The funniest part of the evening was when I saw a big red monster truck parked at the movie theatre with a tiny white honda civic literally underneath it's back bumper.
So when do we go? You know... get on the big ship and abandon earth to go live on mars just to find out that "Oops, we forgot to convert to metrics... there is no water."
At least in the situation I am using it.
I got a free domain from namezero.com and it happens to be: f?ckingjihad.com, whether I can register this after the period that they ask for you to wait, with a larger domain name registrar is a nother question, but at least for now, f?ckingjihad.com is at my bidding. MUAHAHAHA.
Well, I suppose the visitor's center won't be doing much business then.
Simply because you do not use e-mail for purposes other than personal correspondence doesn't mean others don't use it for more important reasons. I use e-mail to do business, talking to clients about money, web-site information. Passwords and account information is sent to me over my e-mail account. My e-mail box isn't my life, but it is often the center of my career because I work at home and I transfer electronic documents such as images over it quite frequently.
Yeah, namely the thousands of e-mail addresses and personal information profiles they could be selling to insurance companies. That or essentially nullify the existence of my ISP's privacy policy, which I value dearly. I don't want ANYBODY looking into my personal correspondence with others. If that means we won't be arresting hardcore computer felons, so be it. The freedom of others should not be jeopardized in order to prevent or infiltrate a few minor crimes.
in my class we use codewarrior as well but my teacher said that as long as we can compile our programs at school with codewarrior there isn't a problem. So what I did was just use notepad for my cpp files and compile em with the borland dos compiler to test. As far as the principle of what the teacher said, yes it is pretty negative to view it that way, but almost anybody who takes c++ to heart and wants to continue learning it will move on to learn other development environments. There's really no point in teaching a class of 20 people to program in the long term with harder methods when only about 3-5 of em are gonna continue programming on their own (unless it's like an employee training kinda thing).
You state that it's nVidia's drivers that allow it, its the ASUS drivers for (I think) the v7xxx line of GeForce cards, so it isn't nVidia who is doing the cheating, it's ASUS!
I don't consider myself a programmer in any degree, but I am, however, a master at HTML. I know its not really that simple a language, but I've managed to put together many SOLID, WORKING, web-sites with graphics that fit and decent colors. I abide by the rules of neat coding and I am a master of photoshop 4. People are always asking me questions about HTML and Graphics and things and I think to myself "If only I was there to help me out in the beginning". I think this means that in order for up-and-coming students of any school, upper-classmen or just people who know more should help the lesser ones to get better. I learned on my own, and as a result I gained an intimate knowledge of standards (because I drew my knowledge from many good ethically designed sites) but had somebody guided me on earlier I could have learned a little faster, maybe even moved on to programming. Right now I'm trying to learn C++ in my AP CS class and Perl on my own. I'm getting help from people who know more than me and its helping me alot. So basically... if someone you know is trying to learn, give em some knowledge. I can't tell you how many times I've taught flash or tables to people.
Well, think of it this way: If the AIWA one costs too much, competitors will jump in and then we'll have a race for the best cd-mp3 player (Like nvidia vs. 3dfx, intel vs. amd), eventually leading to 200 dollar multi-cd mp3 players, possible within the year! Fantabulous.
Not everybody has a car! I want a portable one! I mean, I could burn one big friggin CD w/ like 100-150 songs on the mofo and play it with some clear plastic (stealth), 1.5", sattelite headphones. Damn, can you even devise the uses for that? Couple that with a nice watch-style remote controller and college is a breeze!
Eventually it will get to the point where the remote control is a ring and the headphone is just a little hearing-aid type thing. The mp3 player will be the size of a thick credit card and the disc will be a 2" diameter mini-dvd. Damn I love technology.