Iirc, The entire senate also voted for the patriot act, didn't it?
No, Russ Feingold (Wisconson) voted against it, the only Senator to do so. The final Senate vote count was 98-1 (Mary Landrieu of Louisiana didn't vote because she was in a very tight election race and voting for it would have hurt her chances).
Maybe you should think a bit harder about what it means when some country's parliament unanimously votes for a law that really should have been highly controversial.
Went there a few times, nice place, sorry to see it go.
Just for kicks, I e-mailed the Toronto Star article's author and the paper's ombudsman about their little error. Wonder if they'll bother to note the correction....
dbirchall remarked....I think I can put a spin on this, though, like so:
"Why yes, I did learn in 2004 that I had been operating with an incorrect conversion factor for going from inches to meters. At that time I researched the extent of use of such incorrect factors, made public my findings, and of course corrected my own notes so as to avoid error in any further calculations.
the cdu is a big german party and the csu is a pure bavarian party. and in bavaria there is no cdu. but when it comes to nationwide elections these two parties run as one. they have different programms and different campaigns, but you can only vote for cdu/csu.
We kinda have a similar thing here in the U.S. The Democrat-Farmer-Labor party only exists in the state of Minnesota. Technically it is part of the national Democratic party and not just an affiliated state party, although that was the case in the early part of the 20th century. Then there's the North Dakota Democratic-NPL Party in the state of North Dakota, which is similarly affiliated with the national Democratic party.
i don't even understand why there are religious parties in a democracy
It's called "freedom." Religious people are allowed to associate with each other, and to vote for candidates who reflect their beliefs. Having a religious party makes it easier to identify them. Sometimes.
"Our launch checklist in fact instructed us, the firing crew, to double-check the locking panel in our underground launch bunker to ensure that no digits other than zero had been inadvertently dialed into the panel."
Um, guys....I hate to point this out, but manuals & documentation are usually written with examples in the place of real data. Just because his launch checklist had zeros for the launch code doesn't mean that's what the code really was. I can see the Air Force tech writers now: "Hey, what should I do about this part where I give the launch code?" "Huh? Oh, just put the code there so they'll have it in case of a launch order."
Heck, the all-zero code could have been there specifically so that when they ran drills--which they did, using the lauch checklist--they'd have something harmless to put in the PAL.
Blair probably missed the asterisk and related footnote that said, "Had this been an actual globalthermonuclear war, you would have been supplied with the real launch code. Have a nice day!"
Hopefully, EU knows that the US government was founded with the belief that the citizens need to be protected from the oppressive government.
I don't think they've figured this out yet. Just look at the new regulations coming out of Brussels on a regular basis: the Cammembert cheese fiasco; a British shopowner fined--and his scales seized--for using pounds and ounces instead of metric ("Quick, we must save the people from these unscrupulous shopkeepers!")....
And those bureaucracies sure are expensive (they need the money to pay for the cost of printing the rules & regulations)! They're paying for it (literally) with high personal taxes: "In the US the theoretical Tax Freedom Day is on 11 April, while in the euro zone it is 28 June...." At least they've figured out that all wealth comes from individuals and have started reducing some corporate taxes.
It's worth noting that before the federal gov't started "helping" the states with education, the locally-controlled and governed schools were producing people who helped put men on the moon.
It's also worth noting that, ever since the federal government established Department of Education as it's own separate cabinet department, complete with its own overreaching, incompetent bureaucracy, the state of education in the U.S. has declined. Thank you, Jimmy Carter.
you think we went to war with Iraq just to let them do what they wanted?
Um, well, yes. That's what the idea of a setting up a democratic government over there is all about. Compare this to the previous dictatorship in which they could NOT do what they wanted.
I'm simply amazed at people who think that the after-war stuff is as easy and quick as instant grits. This is not a "just add water type of thing. It took us over four years to reestablish government in Germany after WWII. Had you been alive then, would you have been complaining as strongly that it was taking too long? Or would you rather we take the time to do it right instead of fast?
depends on if you follow the decentralized model or the centralized model. Centralized models of just about anything are ugly and inhuman and result in horrific atrocities
And a decentralized model in which people are forced to work in order to support someone else is some sort of significant improvement? At least the "centralized" models of socialism don't use a a veneer of public relations to hide what they do to people.
If Cheney wants Iraq's oil, then why are we going to an awful lot of trouble to rebuild Iraq's oil industry and giving it back to Iraq???
Besides, Cheney doesn't make any money from any of this, other than his salary.
Get on the state no-call list! It works well--since signing up for it, my telemarketer-scum calls have dropped to nearly nothing. I think I've gotten three buyourstuffthatyouotherwisewouldn'twant calls since signing up over a year ago, and I sent a complaint in for each one. One guy called twice within a few weeks, but nothing since.
(Well, OK, the state of Georgia now says to sign up for the "free(paidforwithhighertaxes)" federalbigbrother list and you'll get put on the state list automagically.
Go ahead, big brother already knows who and where you are.;-)
The Constitution calls for a well regulated militia. Welcome to the "well regulated" part of that particular edict.
Even if you were properly interpreting that phrase (which you are not, as other repliers have pointed out), it doesn't negate the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." -- Constitution of the United States, Amendment II
"A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed." -- J. Neil Schulman
In the second example, would you claim that it means the government can tell you what books you can and cannot own? (That book has too many pages! We need to outlaw those assault books! They're too dangerous to allow the average citizen to own!)
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Iirc, The entire senate also voted for the patriot act, didn't it?
No, Russ Feingold (Wisconson) voted against it, the only Senator to do so. The final Senate vote count was 98-1 (Mary Landrieu of Louisiana didn't vote because she was in a very tight election race and voting for it would have hurt her chances).
Maybe you should think a bit harder about what it means when some country's parliament unanimously votes for a law that really should have been highly controversial.
It wasn't anywhere near a unanimous vote. In addition to Feingold in the Senate, 66 Representatives voted against it.
And yes, it should have been discussed and debated thoroughly before passage. That irked me considerably.
Went there a few times, nice place, sorry to see it go.
Just for kicks, I e-mailed the Toronto Star article's author and the paper's ombudsman about their little error. Wonder if they'll bother to note the correction....
dbirchall remarked....I think I can put a spin on this, though, like so: "Why yes, I did learn in 2004 that I had been operating with an incorrect conversion factor for going from inches to meters. At that time I researched the extent of use of such incorrect factors, made public my findings, and of course corrected my own notes so as to avoid error in any further calculations.
Oh, so you're the guy responsible for the loss of Mars Climate Orbiter!
the cdu is a big german party and the csu is a pure bavarian party. and in bavaria there is no cdu. but when it comes to nationwide elections these two parties run as one. they have different programms and different campaigns, but you can only vote for cdu/csu.
We kinda have a similar thing here in the U.S. The Democrat-Farmer-Labor party only exists in the state of Minnesota. Technically it is part of the national Democratic party and not just an affiliated state party, although that was the case in the early part of the 20th century. Then there's the North Dakota Democratic-NPL Party in the state of North Dakota, which is similarly affiliated with the national Democratic party.
i don't even understand why there are religious parties in a democracy
It's called "freedom." Religious people are allowed to associate with each other, and to vote for candidates who reflect their beliefs. Having a religious party makes it easier to identify them. Sometimes.
Whether or not I would draw it if I were being mugged would depend on circumstances (i.e., if I thought I were in danger).
Um, guys....I hate to point this out, but manuals & documentation are usually written with examples in the place of real data. Just because his launch checklist had zeros for the launch code doesn't mean that's what the code really was. I can see the Air Force tech writers now: "Hey, what should I do about this part where I give the launch code?" "Huh? Oh, just put the code there so they'll have it in case of a launch order."
Heck, the all-zero code could have been there specifically so that when they ran drills--which they did, using the lauch checklist--they'd have something harmless to put in the PAL.
Blair probably missed the asterisk and related footnote that said, "Had this been an actual globalthermonuclear war, you would have been supplied with the real launch code. Have a nice day!"
I don't think they've figured this out yet. Just look at the new regulations coming out of Brussels on a regular basis: the Cammembert cheese fiasco; a British shopowner fined--and his scales seized--for using pounds and ounces instead of metric ("Quick, we must save the people from these unscrupulous shopkeepers!")....
And those bureaucracies sure are expensive (they need the money to pay for the cost of printing the rules & regulations)! They're paying for it (literally) with high personal taxes: "In the US the theoretical Tax Freedom Day is on 11 April, while in the euro zone it is 28 June...." At least they've figured out that all wealth comes from individuals and have started reducing some corporate taxes.
It's worth noting that before the federal gov't started "helping" the states with education, the locally-controlled and governed schools were producing people who helped put men on the moon.
It's also worth noting that, ever since the federal government established Department of Education as it's own separate cabinet department, complete with its own overreaching, incompetent bureaucracy, the state of education in the U.S. has declined. Thank you, Jimmy Carter.
truly, they have Axes of Evil ...
You mean Axles of Evil.
you think we went to war with Iraq just to let them do what they wanted? Um, well, yes. That's what the idea of a setting up a democratic government over there is all about. Compare this to the previous dictatorship in which they could NOT do what they wanted. I'm simply amazed at people who think that the after-war stuff is as easy and quick as instant grits. This is not a "just add water type of thing. It took us over four years to reestablish government in Germany after WWII. Had you been alive then, would you have been complaining as strongly that it was taking too long? Or would you rather we take the time to do it right instead of fast?
And a decentralized model in which people are forced to work in order to support someone else is some sort of significant improvement? At least the "centralized" models of socialism don't use a a veneer of public relations to hide what they do to people.
Democracy without socialism is oppression
Socialism in any form is oppression.
Obligatory slogan: Socialism sucks.
There are years in which more people die at soccer matches than did during the Iraq invasion.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/africa/05/09/soccer. chronology/
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/stadium.deaths/
If Cheney wants Iraq's oil, then why are we going to an awful lot of trouble to rebuild Iraq's oil industry and giving it back to Iraq ??? Besides, Cheney doesn't make any money from any of this, other than his salary.
Cool, maybe I can get my job back afterwards.
Naahhhh, it'll probably just move to Hungary.
Get on the state no-call list! It works well--since signing up for it, my telemarketer-scum calls have dropped to nearly nothing. I think I've gotten three buyourstuffthatyouotherwisewouldn'twant calls since signing up over a year ago, and I sent a complaint in for each one. One guy called twice within a few weeks, but nothing since.
(Well, OK, the state of Georgia now says to sign up for the "free(paidforwithhighertaxes)" federalbigbrother list and you'll get put on the state list automagically.
Go ahead, big brother already knows who and where you are. ;-)
In otherwords burrocrats invented this term and it's only just now being used.
So it was created by a bunch of asses, then...I thought as much. :-P
Brother Maynard, where art thou? (take two)
From the reply threads, it looks like we're on the verge of another Religious War.
There's only one thing that can be done now.
Brother Maynard! Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade!
(Take that, you mebi/mibi/mobi/wobblybytes!)
Egad, I had it when I reply to the wrong part of the thread. Please disregard (unless you have a desperate need to flame something right now).
From the reply threads, it looks like we're on the verge of another Religious War.
There's only one thing that can be done now.
Brother Maynard! Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade!
(chanting)
Die Jesu domine,
Dona eis requiem.
Die Jesu domine,
Dona eis requiem.
But...I've been ordering pizza over the net for years! Just use the Internet Pizza Server! http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~pizza/ As an added bonus, read up on their discussion of Domino's Pizza vs. Armor Plating: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~pizza/pizzaburn.html
The Constitution calls for a well regulated militia. Welcome to the "well regulated" part of that particular edict.
Even if you were properly interpreting that phrase (which you are not, as other repliers have pointed out), it doesn't negate the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." -- Constitution of the United States, Amendment II
"A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed." -- J. Neil Schulman
In the second example, would you claim that it means the government can tell you what books you can and cannot own? (That book has too many pages! We need to outlaw those assault books! They're too dangerous to allow the average citizen to own!)