Ever had one of the staff leave or worse die? We had the founder of the company pass away which led to our mail server sending messages with his name in bounced messages. This led to people thinking that messages were coming from a dead guy (I am not joking) which led to a massive renaming of all servers.
We now use elements (hydrogen, lithium, etc) for our servers. If you have thousands of servers then you will need to use longer hostnames with groups as in hydrogen.www.domain.com vs hydrogen.mail.domain.com. Another good choice is colors, red, blue, green, etc...
Exactly, it isn't like they are saying that the license was abusive and over the top and they will correct it.
If you read what they said, they are just saying, that the horible license was meant to only apply to their Enterprise customers.
How is this any better? Just because an Enterprise is bigger does not mean that Borland should retain such a license with them either. The licenses is just wrong all around and should not be used for ANY software.
Ok guess its never going to get modded up because it has FreeBSD in it...
Here is the source to what is very close to "the real thing"
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-s ta ble/src/bin/sh/
So the answer is still, "Use the real bourne sh" and here is how you do it. Download, compile (on linux) and install to some place that won't effect linux. Have your install script call the newly made "real" shell.
Include the FreeBSD source to/bin/sh with your product, have a simple script compile and install it on the Linux both someplace. Have your complicated install script use the new bourne shell for installing your app.
I am hoping it was just accidentally marked down with the thought: "Oh no, someone is telling him to install FreeBSD, better mark it down"
This is not what the parent was suggesting. Read carefully before blindly modding down based on seeing something you don't like...
1) Never wear white pants with a white shirt. You wear dark pants light shirt or the opposite. In otherwords, you are trying to avoid being in SPY VS SPY. (Hint: dark pants also mean dark socks!)
2) NEVER (that means ever) do the "Batbelt" in any visable public place. One phone or pager is normal. Pager, phone, PDA, wireless email, leatherman, etc = BATMAN
Got it? Good, now get out of the house and meet people, you can't do that in front of your computer.
2. I have not yet seen an access point that really gives you the freedom to use whatever the client wants. Typically, you have to
configure the access point to certain strategy (40 bit, 128 bit encryption), and every single client must know the key and follow
that everyone sharing the same encryption key.
I have not personally used these since their release but here's ciscos new access points that are suppose to support unique keys per client and other things, but the new crack would invalidate this improvement too.
FreeBSD is not a linux distro, not everyone can post changes into the system, only commiters.
Ports depends on someone figuring out how to compile various packages on new systems - no centralized point of authority (or, more importantly, blame).
At least with the FreeBSD ports it is very easy to find who has commited the port and get them to fix it or get help. It very much DOES have a central authority.
If you haven't checked it out, see what
ports really is... who knows, you may like it;-)
Also, check out the manual pages.
I really like the IBM KB9910 keyboards that IBM has been shipping with their desktops for a while. You can also get them at Compusa for around $30.
They are a membrain type keyboard but are pretty responsive, come with a built in little wrist rest at the bottom (more like a sloped piece of plastic) that is not obtrusive. They have windows keys however, and they bug me, but it's at least nice to type on...
The BSD license is a license to steal. I wonder why it's always the GPL supporters who are spun off as anarchist freeloaders, when that is precisely WHAT companies that exploit BSD licensed code are.
Bzzzzzzzzzt! WRONG! If you are given the code, you are not stealing it.
GPL, just does not give you the code, its a loan with restrictions
BSD is a license that makes sure that good code gets widespread use AND give people *TOTAL* freedom to do ANYTHING with it. BSD TCP/IP stack is in windows. Sounds like it is getting more use now. Sounds like the world just got some really good, clean code in windows for once. Gee, that's awful! It's also the point of the BSD license!
GPL is as "free" as mob extortion.
"hey, fingers, I know, lets release this software under GPL, yeah they can use it but if they don't give their work back to use, we'll break their fingers"
So, if you like GPL, fine, use, it on your code, but the people that use the BSD license don't see it your way and we really hate all the GPL people trying to take away our *FREEDOM* to use whatever license we want. We really don't see the GPL as a license as much as a stupid polical tool. Remember this whole open source crazy now is nothing new, BSD started it all a long time ago.
Not at my house in downtown or the 8 hotel properties that we had service with Northpoint either. Luckily we had seen this coming and our T1's are almost installed although the company would not put one in at my house:-(
It really sucks what ATT did in this whole mess. They took the hardware and let the customers high and dry and are as much to blame as Northpoint's management.
But lets look at ATT's decesion because it really makes a TON of business since:
1) Why keep DSL customers that have contracts and rates that you didn't promise them...
2) Don't give people enough time to switch them to other DSL providers but give them a shitty DSL experience. Who knows maybe they may try a certain cable modem service instead, ahem, @home?
3) When (if) ATT starts selling DSL they will have a network for pennies on the dollar, that they can force all the customers to their rates and terms and conditions.
ATT didn't do it because they are mean, they did it because it makes the most CENTS!
Step 1) Install second soundcard
Step 2) Connect output of first sound card to input of new soundcard
Step 3) Record off second soundcard, and plug speakers into it.
Step 4) Repost content in MP3 (or whatever) on to the net/napster/gnutella/IRC/etc
Comsumers (that's you!):
Feel free to help me setup my new company:
Equiphax.com
This company will be not for profit and be the first (to my knowledge) company that will keep a online database of Banks, and credit agency's and their customers overall ratings of their service.
Think of this as the first "Business Background Check". Next time you are looking for a car loan, maybe you can walk in, slap down the "business report" from equiphax.com and tell them, "I'm sorry but I can't do business with you because your credit with consumers is poor."
I just reg'd the domain, so it may take a few hours to resolve in your part of the world, so in the meantime, just email equiphax@whoowl.com, if you want to give me a hand. This would be some people with experience with databases and websites, and I think I may need some legal help if/when a certain other company gets pissed at the name of my company.
I like how the article says that the "new macrovison" will prevent copying because only digital tvs will have the decoder and not PC's DVI ports or other D-VHS decks.
First off, how long tell some company buys a DTV, removes the decoder, figures out how to make another and starts sticking decoders in little external boxes you can plug between the decks?
Or, how long till someone writes code for the PC's to decode the data on the DVI port?
MS has always bet on the future and made smart moves to be in the right place at the right time. I think however, this time they are shooting themselves in the foot.
IF they try to make.NET the new "standard" platform to write software for they are going to kill themselves. Here is why:
-Everyone is tired of programming for them, and.NET is just an updated set of dictated rules to programmers. No programmer is going to wilfully move to a new platform that has no market share, just so they can be dictated in how to write their software. Even so, Sun is way ahead with Java and net based applications, with the promise of openning it [java] to the world, something MS has never said they would do with.NET
-Companies will NOT pay for subscription based applications. There is no way that if most of the world would not pay to upgrade to Office 97, that they are going to decide that monthly charges are better. I know accountants, they will NEVER buy into this idea.
-.NET based apps (services) will be totally dependent on your connection to the network (internet). You think your company is effected now when you can't get email or surf the web? Imagine all the sales, accounting, etc, depts. sitting around without any apps because the DSL/FRAME/etc is down.
So what does this all mean...
Open source software will still be based on applications, on computers. The software will continue to get better and will become the only software availble that is not a "service"
Someone will right a replacement for X windows, throwing away all the compatibilty of past Unix to make a new PC platform. In fact if Apple were smart (and they are not) they would open Mac OS X to PC hardware and watch the world move to them, as open source software will run freely on it, as well as commercial apps.
IHMO, this is the future...
Microsoft just jumped off a cliff.
You already said it, dialing NXX+xxx+xxxx without a 1 is a local call. This is 10 digit dialing. Lots of major cities have this now, and people don't actively think "oh we have 10 digit"
It's really not a big deal, 1 + 10 digits = long distance, 10 digits equals local! Come on, are people really not smart enough to figure this out?
It sure is better then adding area codes to regions then it does get hard to figure out if it's long distance ("Oh he is on the west side of the city that's XXX area code, I need to dial a one and then that area code, then his number")
Currently, I work for a managment company for hotels and restaurants. The pay is poor but I get a lot more freedom in what I want to do with the IT.
One thing I didn't get any freedom about was the Eneagram training. Basicly, its a similar idea, that there are X numbers of personality types and everyone should find theirs and learn how it interacts with the other types, thus we can work in teams better. Personally, I don't know if I by it. I call it the Corp. Brainwashing course.
Anyone have some links about the eneagram?
Russia has no money, but many assets
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I am sure Russia has no money but then they have many assets. Lets just hope that $27 million wasn't raised in a sale of some nukes to Bin Laden or the likes...
VANBO
This guy claims that anything they own and put on the web they still own.
You know the problem here isn't the web, it's the companies that have moved on it it, and are trying to make money from it.
The WEB IS PUBLIC! It has always been so, if you don't want to SHARE then don't put anything on the web. It is stupid for them [companies] to keep doing this, and then calling people thieves when it takes place.
Take the EBay thing, that just went through court. If ebay doesn't want people using bots to scan their site, maybe they shouldn't make it public. Maybe, they should make it a members only site?
Also, the Microsoft Kerberos thing! If you tell people you are going to share information, and then you do so (esp. on the web!) you have NO right to claim copyright.
I say if they are not happy with the web, then they should go someplace else, make their own network and stop trying to fill their pockets.
Of course this won't matter soon as they can have the web, as we move on to Freenet!
-Obviously, if there is a serious problem the user can PAGE me, as with any emergency. This is for NON-critical situations. (I didn't think I need state this origionally, but I guess I should have been more specific.)
-Also, the system is not a replacement for the pager, cell, or voicemail, but a way that the user can get better service by being able to submit easily information about the problem that will help it to be resolved and prioritised.
-I won't be the only IS Manager using it and the others think my FreeBSD boxes are magical, thus it needs to be configurable without editing perl or php scripts.
Next, I see the system being more of a flowing form, more dynamic.
Ex. The first page would have name, property, and a pull down of general problems. If they choose "I am not getting email." then the next page asks more detailed questions about that topic to help, such as "Can you browse the web?"
This would help in getting rid of posts of "it doesn't work" You could even maybe have the system prioritise based on the answers.
If I wanted to be real slick I can get it setup to email a pseudo user via qmail (vanbo-pager@xxxxx.com) that forwards to my pager if the post meets certain criteria.
Purchasing software is probably not an option as everything has to go through Corp. Accounting Officer Judy (known Judge Judy). If it's not budgeted nothing see's any money, and the IT team has little if any budget (had to buy my own tools, etc). Also, there is the aspect that if I get this setup, I would like to use a free software setup on my freebsd boxes, and be able to contribute my work back the the communite for others.
Surely, someone has scripted a simple perl script that posts to email, that could be easily be setup for this...
> DEL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WSCRIPT.EXE > DEL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CSCRIPT.EXE
This is really the solution if people refuse to switch from lookout. (I had switched everyone I could when I arrived at the company, but some refuse to leave "what they know.")
So here is my solution in a Novell Netware enviroment.
-Using NAL (Novell Application Launcher), create a new application object in NWAdmin. Don't have it launch any program, Name it something like "Remove VBS."
-Modify the "Files" tab by adding "wscript.exe" and "cscript.exe" to be deleted (In otherwords click file, in target select those programs, and put the check in "Target to be deleted.)
-Associate with everyone group with force run status
Now everyone is going to be better off. Some would complain that now people can't write scripts in VB on their machines, but guess what I never got any complaints. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that anyone writing scripts knows better then to open unknown attachements, or even to use outlook.
Note- This process could be done with the login script but NAL gives you more control. For instance I have used NAL to remove registry entries (or add), reset Netscape preferences, and similar to above, have NAL delete "normal.dot" every login to help prevent the spread of Macros. At my previous job, I even went so far as to have NAL rename the vbe folder in office to turn off macros all together, and created a NAL application called "Word with Macros, Excel with Macros" that would rename the directory before launching, and rename it at close, but alas, they use the macros in Excel at the current place...
I have a Supermicro P6GDE (Dual PII 400, GX chipset) that has a jumper on the MB to choose, "Bios Power Stater, or Always on..."
As soon as I through the switch on the back of the powersupply its on, and if that switch is left in the on position then it comes on when the power returns after a black out, etc.
Note the case is a supermicro ATX750 or something(which is really an Antec Case and Powersupply) and it seems to be designed just for this...
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Ever had one of the staff leave or worse die? We had the founder of the company pass away which led to our mail server sending messages with his name in bounced messages. This led to people thinking that messages were coming from a dead guy (I am not joking) which led to a massive renaming of all servers.
We now use elements (hydrogen, lithium, etc) for our servers. If you have thousands of servers then you will need to use longer hostnames with groups as in hydrogen.www.domain.com vs hydrogen.mail.domain.com. Another good choice is colors, red, blue, green, etc...
vanbo
Exactly, it isn't like they are saying that the license was abusive and over the top and they will correct it.
If you read what they said, they are just saying, that the horible license was meant to only apply to their Enterprise customers.
How is this any better? Just because an Enterprise is bigger does not mean that Borland should retain such a license with them either. The licenses is just wrong all around and should not be used for ANY software.
Great, so the 486 that I finially throw away shows up under my families Christmas tree, especially wrapped for me...
Somehow I think it would be less funny if it happened...
Ok guess its never going to get modded up because it has FreeBSD in it...
s ta ble/src/bin/sh/
Here is the source to what is very close to "the real thing"
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-
So the answer is still, "Use the real bourne sh" and here is how you do it. Download, compile (on linux) and install to some place that won't effect linux. Have your install script call the newly made "real" shell.
Wasn't hard eh?
Why has this been marked down to -1?
/bin/sh with your product, have a simple script compile and install it on the Linux both someplace. Have your complicated install script use the new bourne shell for installing your app.
He just gave a valid solution.
Include the FreeBSD source to
I am hoping it was just accidentally marked down with the thought: "Oh no, someone is telling him to install FreeBSD, better mark it down"
This is not what the parent was suggesting. Read carefully before blindly modding down based on seeing something you don't like...
Tips for the Fashion dead geek:
1) Never wear white pants with a white shirt. You wear dark pants light shirt or the opposite. In otherwords, you are trying to avoid being in SPY VS SPY. (Hint: dark pants also mean dark socks!)
2) NEVER (that means ever) do the "Batbelt" in any visable public place. One phone or pager is normal. Pager, phone, PDA, wireless email, leatherman, etc = BATMAN
Got it? Good, now get out of the house and meet people, you can't do that in front of your computer.
2. I have not yet seen an access point that really gives you the freedom to use whatever the client wants. Typically, you have to configure the access point to certain strategy (40 bit, 128 bit encryption), and every single client must know the key and follow that everyone sharing the same encryption key.
I have not personally used these since their release but here's ciscos new access points that are suppose to support unique keys per client and other things, but the new crack would invalidate this improvement too.
Anyone have details or use this cisco stuff??
FreeBSD is not a linux distro, not everyone can post changes into the system, only commiters.
;-)
Also, check out the manual pages.
Ports depends on someone figuring out how to compile various packages on new systems - no centralized point of authority (or, more importantly, blame).
At least with the FreeBSD ports it is very easy to find who has commited the port and get them to fix it or get help. It very much DOES have a central authority.
If you haven't checked it out, see what ports really is... who knows, you may like it
I really like the IBM KB9910 keyboards that IBM has been shipping with their desktops for a while. You can also get them at Compusa for around $30.
They are a membrain type keyboard but are pretty responsive, come with a built in little wrist rest at the bottom (more like a sloped piece of plastic) that is not obtrusive. They have windows keys however, and they bug me, but it's at least nice to type on...
The BSD license is a license to steal. I wonder why it's always the GPL supporters who are spun off as anarchist freeloaders, when that is precisely WHAT companies that exploit BSD licensed code are.
Bzzzzzzzzzt! WRONG! If you are given the code, you are not stealing it.
GPL, just does not give you the code, its a loan with restrictions
BSD is a license that makes sure that good code gets widespread use AND give people *TOTAL* freedom to do ANYTHING with it. BSD TCP/IP stack is in windows. Sounds like it is getting more use now. Sounds like the world just got some really good, clean code in windows for once. Gee, that's awful! It's also the point of the BSD license!
GPL is as "free" as mob extortion.
"hey, fingers, I know, lets release this software under GPL, yeah they can use it but if they don't give their work back to use, we'll break their fingers"
So, if you like GPL, fine, use, it on your code, but the people that use the BSD license don't see it your way and we really hate all the GPL people trying to take away our *FREEDOM* to use whatever license we want. We really don't see the GPL as a license as much as a stupid polical tool. Remember this whole open source crazy now is nothing new, BSD started it all a long time ago.
Not at my house in downtown or the 8 hotel properties that we had service with Northpoint either. Luckily we had seen this coming and our T1's are almost installed although the company would not put one in at my house :-(
BTW, they were all with Internet Connect as ISP
It really sucks what ATT did in this whole mess. They took the hardware and let the customers high and dry and are as much to blame as Northpoint's management.
But lets look at ATT's decesion because it really makes a TON of business since:
1) Why keep DSL customers that have contracts and rates that you didn't promise them...
2) Don't give people enough time to switch them to other DSL providers but give them a shitty DSL experience. Who knows maybe they may try a certain cable modem service instead, ahem, @home?
3) When (if) ATT starts selling DSL they will have a network for pennies on the dollar, that they can force all the customers to their rates and terms and conditions.
ATT didn't do it because they are mean, they did it because it makes the most CENTS!
Here you go, forget the tape player...
Step 1) Install second soundcard
Step 2) Connect output of first sound card to input of new soundcard
Step 3) Record off second soundcard, and plug speakers into it.
Step 4) Repost content in MP3 (or whatever) on to the net/napster/gnutella/IRC/etc
Sounds easy enough, eh?
Feel free to help me setup my new company: Equiphax.com
This company will be not for profit and be the first (to my knowledge) company that will keep a online database of Banks, and credit agency's and their customers overall ratings of their service. Think of this as the first "Business Background Check". Next time you are looking for a car loan, maybe you can walk in, slap down the "business report" from equiphax.com and tell them, "I'm sorry but I can't do business with you because your credit with consumers is poor."
I just reg'd the domain, so it may take a few hours to resolve in your part of the world, so in the meantime, just email equiphax@whoowl.com, if you want to give me a hand. This would be some people with experience with databases and websites, and I think I may need some legal help if/when a certain other company gets pissed at the name of my company.
I like how the article says that the "new macrovison" will prevent copying because only digital tvs will have the decoder and not PC's DVI ports or other D-VHS decks.
First off, how long tell some company buys a DTV, removes the decoder, figures out how to make another and starts sticking decoders in little external boxes you can plug between the decks?
Or, how long till someone writes code for the PC's to decode the data on the DVI port?
I don't think these companies get it...
MS has always bet on the future and made smart moves to be in the right place at the right time. I think however, this time they are shooting themselves in the foot.
.NET the new "standard" platform to write software for they are going to kill themselves. Here is why:
.NET is just an updated set of dictated rules to programmers. No programmer is going to wilfully move to a new platform that has no market share, just so they can be dictated in how to write their software. Even so, Sun is way ahead with Java and net based applications, with the promise of openning it [java] to the world, something MS has never said they would do with .NET
IF they try to make
-Everyone is tired of programming for them, and
-Companies will NOT pay for subscription based applications. There is no way that if most of the world would not pay to upgrade to Office 97, that they are going to decide that monthly charges are better. I know accountants, they will NEVER buy into this idea.
-.NET based apps (services) will be totally dependent on your connection to the network (internet). You think your company is effected now when you can't get email or surf the web? Imagine all the sales, accounting, etc, depts. sitting around without any apps because the DSL/FRAME/etc is down.
So what does this all mean...
Open source software will still be based on applications, on computers. The software will continue to get better and will become the only software availble that is not a "service"
Someone will right a replacement for X windows, throwing away all the compatibilty of past Unix to make a new PC platform. In fact if Apple were smart (and they are not) they would open Mac OS X to PC hardware and watch the world move to them, as open source software will run freely on it, as well as commercial apps.
IHMO, this is the future...
Microsoft just jumped off a cliff.
You already said it, dialing NXX+xxx+xxxx without a 1 is a local call. This is 10 digit dialing. Lots of major cities have this now, and people don't actively think "oh we have 10 digit"
It's really not a big deal, 1 + 10 digits = long distance, 10 digits equals local! Come on, are people really not smart enough to figure this out?
It sure is better then adding area codes to regions then it does get hard to figure out if it's long distance ("Oh he is on the west side of the city that's XXX area code, I need to dial a one and then that area code, then his number")
Currently, I work for a managment company for hotels and restaurants. The pay is poor but I get a lot more freedom in what I want to do with the IT.
One thing I didn't get any freedom about was the Eneagram training. Basicly, its a similar idea, that there are X numbers of personality types and everyone should find theirs and learn how it interacts with the other types, thus we can work in teams better. Personally, I don't know if I by it. I call it the Corp. Brainwashing course.
Anyone have some links about the eneagram?
I am sure Russia has no money but then they have many assets. Lets just hope that $27 million wasn't raised in a sale of some nukes to Bin Laden or the likes... VANBO
This guy claims that anything they own and put on the web they still own.
You know the problem here isn't the web, it's the companies that have moved on it it, and are trying to make money from it.
The WEB IS PUBLIC! It has always been so, if you don't want to SHARE then don't put anything on the web. It is stupid for them [companies] to keep doing this, and then calling people thieves when it takes place.
Take the EBay thing, that just went through court. If ebay doesn't want people using bots to scan their site, maybe they shouldn't make it public. Maybe, they should make it a members only site?
Also, the Microsoft Kerberos thing! If you tell people you are going to share information, and then you do so (esp. on the web!) you have NO right to claim copyright.
I say if they are not happy with the web, then they should go someplace else, make their own network and stop trying to fill their pockets.
Of course this won't matter soon as they can have the web, as we move on to Freenet!
Just a few things, to be more specific.
-Obviously, if there is a serious problem the user can PAGE me, as with any emergency. This is for NON-critical situations. (I didn't think I need state this origionally, but I guess I should have been more specific.)
-Also, the system is not a replacement for the pager, cell, or voicemail, but a way that the user can get better service by being able to submit easily information about the problem that will help it to be resolved and prioritised.
-I won't be the only IS Manager using it and the others think my FreeBSD boxes are magical, thus it needs to be configurable without editing perl or php scripts.
Next, I see the system being more of a flowing form, more dynamic.
Ex. The first page would have name, property, and a pull down of general problems. If they choose "I am not getting email." then the next page asks more detailed questions about that topic to help, such as "Can you browse the web?"
This would help in getting rid of posts of "it doesn't work" You could even maybe have the system prioritise based on the answers.
If I wanted to be real slick I can get it setup to email a pseudo user via qmail (vanbo-pager@xxxxx.com) that forwards to my pager if the post meets certain criteria.
Purchasing software is probably not an option as everything has to go through Corp. Accounting Officer Judy (known Judge Judy). If it's not budgeted nothing see's any money, and the IT team has little if any budget (had to buy my own tools, etc). Also, there is the aspect that if I get this setup, I would like to use a free software setup on my freebsd boxes, and be able to contribute my work back the the communite for others.
Surely, someone has scripted a simple perl script that posts to email, that could be easily be setup for this...
> DEL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WSCRIPT.EXE
> DEL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CSCRIPT.EXE
This is really the solution if people refuse to switch from lookout. (I had switched everyone I could when I arrived at the company, but some refuse to leave "what they know.")
So here is my solution in a Novell Netware enviroment.
-Using NAL (Novell Application Launcher), create a new application object in NWAdmin. Don't have it launch any program, Name it something like "Remove VBS."
-Modify the "Files" tab by adding "wscript.exe" and "cscript.exe" to be deleted (In otherwords click file, in target select those programs, and put the check in "Target to be deleted.)
-Associate with everyone group with force run status
Now everyone is going to be better off. Some would complain that now people can't write scripts in VB on their machines, but guess what I never got any complaints. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that anyone writing scripts knows better then to open unknown attachements, or even to use outlook.
Note- This process could be done with the login script but NAL gives you more control. For instance I have used NAL to remove registry entries (or add), reset Netscape preferences, and similar to above, have NAL delete "normal.dot" every login to help prevent the spread of Macros. At my previous job, I even went so far as to have NAL rename the vbe folder in office to turn off macros all together, and created a NAL application called "Word with Macros, Excel with Macros" that would rename the directory before launching, and rename it at close, but alas, they use the macros in Excel at the current place...
"Good, Cheap, Fast, choose two..."
Around here in SF, the cabs are
Fast, Curtious, Cheap, Safe, choose two...
I have a Supermicro P6GDE (Dual PII 400, GX chipset) that has a jumper on the MB to choose, "Bios Power Stater, or Always on..."
As soon as I through the switch on the back of the powersupply its on, and if that switch is left in the on position then it comes on when the power returns after a black out, etc.
Note the case is a supermicro ATX750 or something(which is really an Antec Case and Powersupply) and it seems to be designed just for this...