Lucky you, I made the move to udev, and all was fine and dandy except devfs refused to bow out, I ended resigning that despite removing it from the.config, running make clean && make && make modules_install, and then unmerging devfsd, I'd just have to keep using the nodevfs, devfs=nomount, and udev boot flags. Udev works fine for me under 2.6.13 (and 2.6.12 boot flags aside), but I can't get the ndiswrapper working yet, so it's back to 2.6.12 for the time being. This is the first kernel upgrade I've had go less than flawlessly, to be fair to the grizzled vets, I've only been around since the latter days of 2.6.10.
Yes in fact the SMP/Scaling conflict does carry over in to x86. I removed SMP from the kernel, booted over to the new kernel and life was better than it was the last time I tried to use 2.6.13. However without SMP the modem that I don't use shat it self. An other module is getting the axe it looks like.
I wonder if there's the same bug in x86? Because I do use SMP (for a HT P4), and cpu scaling. I'll see what happen if I build a 2.6.13 without cpu scaling. Thanks for the information.
I can't speak for the vanilla kernel, but the Gentoo 2.6.13 kernel borked my system something fierce. The init process grinds to an virtual stop just after loading the kernel, it took a minute and a half to set the host name, I still haven't had the patience let it finish booting. But that's the risk of using a fresh kernel. 2.6.12 didn't give me any trouble.
There is no [...] moral justification to take tax money from a citizen of this country and give it to a different country
Have you no compassion? People should give to charity of their own accord, but when they don't and someone "helps" them do the right thing that's a good thing, that's moral justification enough for me. I have great admiration for any entity that improves the quality of life of the poor, more so if it does so at the expense of the rich. Nations and borders are artificial constructs, and in no way should constrain human compassion. I pay my taxes which help the poor locally and abroad; despite my opposition to how the majority is spent (I hope to have this situation rectified circa November 2008). I also give to charity as often as possible, the local mission (despite religious ties) can do good things with a few bucks, but it's tough to give what's needed when you've got college debt out the ass.
Viability. The day you can preform a C-section, pull the baby out and have it survive with no medical intervention that is the beginning of humanity, before that it's just a complex life form. That's not to say they don't have rights before that point, just not human rights. Nor does that preclude beings with rights (and due legal recourse (parents/legal guardians)) from intervening on it's behalf.
People around here like to compare things to cars, so I'm going to do that just that.
Suppose you build a car and paint it blue. X many years later, after having been exposed to the elements, it's paint job is going to be in crap condition. It's going to be different than when it was created. You still built that car despite it being different when you first created it, things can change their current state without changing their original state.
For the sake of debate let's say that nothing new has been created since God did his thing. Is there any reference anywhere that says things can't change?
As an aside, isn't it about time someone came up with a Godwinesque law for comparing things to cars?
I've got to give it to Exponent, it's a great system to work with. I'm working on moving an intranet portal away from a propriety system to Exponent. The only feature loss, moving to Exponent, was pop-up menus for site navigation, but being OSS a quick bit of hackery and I got the PHP Layers Menu integrated. Good features, easy to install, easy to admin, easy to modify, and easy to use.
And to karma whore Open Source CMS.org has links and demos of just about every CMS.
Rebuttal to Rebuttal #1:
I passonately hate the myth of charity. It doesn't work. How do I know this?
1) There are people that aren't being helped
2) People (especially the rich) are greedy bastards, how do I know this? According to a report that ran on NPR a few months back, the middle class give 6 times as much to charity per dollar of income than the rich.
People are giving enough + People not getting enought == Charity does not work.
With taxes those rich bastards are forced to pay their fair share regradless of if they want to or not.
I suspect it's that they don't *understand*, rather than that they don't care.[...] As an example, some users of my current project (all police employees) can't handle hitting back after a POST request, the "you need to resubmit the information" message confuses and frightens them. Do you really expect them to understand caching, prefetching, etc?
And this makes them less of a danger? Malice, ignorance, it doesn't matter 20 years in prison is still 20 years in prison.
You're exactly right, but ask yourself this: Who's more moral, those that steal to give to the rich, or those that steal to give to the poor? Yeah, they're both bad options, but there's clearly a better choice.
There used to me a link on the portable firefox page to a mozillazine thread about it, I went looking for the link, but couldn't find it. With the addition of the firefox launcher for portable firefox it looks like these tweaks aren't needed for portable firefox. I google'd around and found a link to a page about authoring XUL extensions and covers using a "chrome://" path to refer to internal components (see figure 4). So it looks like all of an extensions internal references are relative to "chrome://", while the external references to the XUL file itself aren't, but the references XUL files can be set relative to "chrome://" and still work fine. If you've got any further questions let me know.
This is a great idea, it's what I use, but you missed a detail. As of Firefox 1.0 all the paths to extensions, themes, etc. that are recorded in the chrome.rdf file are all full paths (c:\docs & settings\$user_name\app_data\firefox\profile\$prof ilename\????.slt\$filename). This is all well and good if the user name is the same on both machines, but if the user names are different the paths won't be correct, no go. BUT with a little bit of mucking around in your profile's chrome.rdf you can set everything up to be relative to you're profile. To get relative paths working, open up chrome.rdf in your text editor of choice and replace instances of "c:\docs & settings\$user_name\app_data\firefox\profile\$prof ilename\????.slt\$filename" with "chrome://$filename". And now you've got a firefox profile that will run anywhere.
You're asking the wrong questions, the right questions are:
What document revokes this right?
When did you vote to give up this right away?
What historical precident is there to deny people this right?
What's the moral basis by which this right should be denied?
As opposed to say Capitalism?
Poverty, there's plent of that going around these days
Famine, you can't really blame bad weather and crop failure on the governement
Forced relocations, you mean like Japanese inturnment, that kind of forced relocation?
Gulags, does camp X-Ray count?
"Other forms of slavery", does actual slavery count, I heard that used to happen in America
subjugation, like pre-1970 minorities?
murder, nope never had any of that in America
You're right not only is my logical ability a bit weak it looks like my knowledge of history is equally lacking.
That's some lovely logic you've got there. So, because ever communist state that has existed to date has be totalitarian, then every communist state ever must be totalitarian? Did I state that right? I'm pretty sure I did.
(P^Q)=/=(P->Q)
Let me get this straight because there are some loopholes it's ok for the government to piss on the constitution, and enforce an illegal monopoly? That's not how it's supposed to work, the government serves the people, not big business. You tell the USPTO you want a Linux/Mozilla way to get patents online the right response is "Right away Mr. Taxpayer sir, would you like us to shine your shoes today too?"
Star Dock's Window Blinds get rid of a lot of the ugly
And object dock because everybody (execpt OSX users) has dock envy
It makes Windows bearable for those to lazy to setup WINE for gaming
If you really want to go over the top you could install cygwin/X and KDE, but be warned it's slow and ugly.
So do I get a prize or something?
Lucky you, I made the move to udev, and all was fine and dandy except devfs refused to bow out, I ended resigning that despite removing it from the .config, running make clean && make && make modules_install, and then unmerging devfsd, I'd just have to keep using the nodevfs, devfs=nomount, and udev boot flags. Udev works fine for me under 2.6.13 (and 2.6.12 boot flags aside), but I can't get the ndiswrapper working yet, so it's back to 2.6.12 for the time being. This is the first kernel upgrade I've had go less than flawlessly, to be fair to the grizzled vets, I've only been around since the latter days of 2.6.10.
Yes in fact the SMP/Scaling conflict does carry over in to x86. I removed SMP from the kernel, booted over to the new kernel and life was better than it was the last time I tried to use 2.6.13. However without SMP the modem that I don't use shat it self. An other module is getting the axe it looks like.
I wonder if there's the same bug in x86? Because I do use SMP (for a HT P4), and cpu scaling. I'll see what happen if I build a 2.6.13 without cpu scaling. Thanks for the information.
I can't speak for the vanilla kernel, but the Gentoo 2.6.13 kernel borked my system something fierce. The init process grinds to an virtual stop just after loading the kernel, it took a minute and a half to set the host name, I still haven't had the patience let it finish booting. But that's the risk of using a fresh kernel. 2.6.12 didn't give me any trouble.
There is no [...] moral justification to take tax money from a citizen of this country and give it to a different country
Have you no compassion? People should give to charity of their own accord, but when they don't and someone "helps" them do the right thing that's a good thing, that's moral justification enough for me. I have great admiration for any entity that improves the quality of life of the poor, more so if it does so at the expense of the rich. Nations and borders are artificial constructs, and in no way should constrain human compassion. I pay my taxes which help the poor locally and abroad; despite my opposition to how the majority is spent (I hope to have this situation rectified circa November 2008). I also give to charity as often as possible, the local mission (despite religious ties) can do good things with a few bucks, but it's tough to give what's needed when you've got college debt out the ass.
Viability. The day you can preform a C-section, pull the baby out and have it survive with no medical intervention that is the beginning of humanity, before that it's just a complex life form. That's not to say they don't have rights before that point, just not human rights. Nor does that preclude beings with rights (and due legal recourse (parents/legal guardians)) from intervening on it's behalf.
G P G
Gnu Privacy Guard. Get it and use it.
I think this is one of those, if you have to ask you can't afford it things.
There is no harm done to anyone involved.
... except those deprived of the patches.
Freedom is good, but why are you endorsing the freedom to be an asshole?
That's not important! Only nerds care about math...
*looks around*
... oh, sorry I forgot where I was.
I was trying to agree with you, but that went cleanly over my head.
People around here like to compare things to cars, so I'm going to do that just that.
Suppose you build a car and paint it blue. X many years later, after having been exposed to the elements, it's paint job is going to be in crap condition. It's going to be different than when it was created. You still built that car despite it being different when you first created it, things can change their current state without changing their original state.
For the sake of debate let's say that nothing new has been created since God did his thing. Is there any reference anywhere that says things can't change?
As an aside, isn't it about time someone came up with a Godwinesque law for comparing things to cars?
My first mod parent up post, I feel so ashamed.
I've got to give it to Exponent, it's a great system to work with. I'm working on moving an intranet portal away from a propriety system to Exponent. The only feature loss, moving to Exponent, was pop-up menus for site navigation, but being OSS a quick bit of hackery and I got the PHP Layers Menu integrated. Good features, easy to install, easy to admin, easy to modify, and easy to use.
And to karma whore Open Source CMS.org has links and demos of just about every CMS.
Possibly becuase they left the cookie jar sitting in the middle of a public street?
Rebuttal to Rebuttal #1:
I passonately hate the myth of charity. It doesn't work. How do I know this?
1) There are people that aren't being helped
2) People (especially the rich) are greedy bastards, how do I know this? According to a report that ran on NPR a few months back, the middle class give 6 times as much to charity per dollar of income than the rich.
People are giving enough + People not getting enought == Charity does not work.
With taxes those rich bastards are forced to pay their fair share regradless of if they want to or not.
I suspect it's that they don't *understand*, rather than that they don't care.[...]
As an example, some users of my current project (all police employees) can't handle hitting back after a POST request, the "you need to resubmit the information" message confuses and frightens them. Do you really expect them to understand caching, prefetching, etc?
And this makes them less of a danger? Malice, ignorance, it doesn't matter 20 years in prison is still 20 years in prison.
You sir need AdBlock, cleans things right up.
You're exactly right, but ask yourself this: Who's more moral, those that steal to give to the rich, or those that steal to give to the poor? Yeah, they're both bad options, but there's clearly a better choice.
There used to me a link on the portable firefox page to a mozillazine thread about it, I went looking for the link, but couldn't find it. With the addition of the firefox launcher for portable firefox it looks like these tweaks aren't needed for portable firefox. I google'd around and found a link to a page about authoring XUL extensions and covers using a "chrome://" path to refer to internal components (see figure 4). So it looks like all of an extensions internal references are relative to "chrome://", while the external references to the XUL file itself aren't, but the references XUL files can be set relative to "chrome://" and still work fine. If you've got any further questions let me know.
This is a great idea, it's what I use, but you missed a detail. As of Firefox 1.0 all the paths to extensions, themes, etc. that are recorded in the chrome.rdf file are all full paths (c:\docs & settings\$user_name\app_data\firefox\profile\$prof ilename\????.slt\$filename). This is all well and good if the user name is the same on both machines, but if the user names are different the paths won't be correct, no go. BUT with a little bit of mucking around in your profile's chrome.rdf you can set everything up to be relative to you're profile. To get relative paths working, open up chrome.rdf in your text editor of choice and replace instances of "c:\docs & settings\$user_name\app_data\firefox\profile\$prof ilename\????.slt\$filename" with "chrome://$filename". And now you've got a firefox profile that will run anywhere.
You're asking the wrong questions, the right questions are:
What document revokes this right?
When did you vote to give up this right away?
What historical precident is there to deny people this right?
What's the moral basis by which this right should be denied?
As opposed to say Capitalism?
Poverty, there's plent of that going around these days
Famine, you can't really blame bad weather and crop failure on the governement
Forced relocations, you mean like Japanese inturnment, that kind of forced relocation?
Gulags, does camp X-Ray count?
"Other forms of slavery", does actual slavery count, I heard that used to happen in America
subjugation, like pre-1970 minorities?
murder, nope never had any of that in America
You're right not only is my logical ability a bit weak it looks like my knowledge of history is equally lacking.
That's some lovely logic you've got there. So, because ever communist state that has existed to date has be totalitarian, then every communist state ever must be totalitarian? Did I state that right? I'm pretty sure I did. (P^Q)=/=(P->Q)
Let me get this straight because there are some loopholes it's ok for the government to piss on the constitution, and enforce an illegal monopoly? That's not how it's supposed to work, the government serves the people, not big business. You tell the USPTO you want a Linux/Mozilla way to get patents online the right response is "Right away Mr. Taxpayer sir, would you like us to shine your shoes today too?"