When is the last time you heard about a Google Security exploit? (cue crickets) chirp chirp (end crickets)
Seriously the only thing close to a security vulnerability was not running in SSL mode which already had a simple fix in the users settings to force SSL. I'm sure there have been vulnerabilities but they fixed them before the public ever got wind. That's how its supposed to work by the way.
Sorry but your argument is so full of holes I don't know where to begin. How about the false parallells? How about lumping in two subjects that have nothing to do with each other? How about lumping all Slashdot commenters together? I for one usually disagree with the group think around here. However in this case it happens to be right ( a broken clock is right two times a day).
Microsoft IS being irresponsible here and they HAVE been given a chance to play nice. You don't know the back story but this has been going on for the better part of a decade or longer. Doing Microsoft's work for them should be rewarded by Microsoft. MS should be finding these exploits themselves. These people are not being malicious. They are just using a tactic which is needed in this case to make Microsoft wake up from their ignorant and moronic ways. Like I said, they should be paying these people rewards for doing their work for them. Instead the demonize them in the court of public opinion.
It is when you are dealing with Microsoft. They develop secure software for the most part now but they way they respond to notices of vulnerabilities is incomprehensibly prideful and moronic.
Wait, which company do you work for? I want to make sure to never do business with them ever unless the CEO resigns and promises to wear a hat on his head for the rest of his life that says "asshat".
Classic maneuver! As soon as the information is poised to become public, you release it first an disassociate with the members of your organization who are aimed to take the fall.
HSBC also runs Household Bank. I had a credit card with them for about two years. For the first six months it was great because I had a 1.9% interest rate. I know how to read credit card applications and the rate it jumped to was not too high. I mostly have credit cards with no balance on them however I do have some credit card debt. I proceeded to move my debt over to this card by paying the full amount on my other card and the minimum on this one. When the rate jumped, I raised the amount I paid on it every month.
Everything was going swimmingly until the first scam came. The "credit protection" service. I was sold on it as being a trial that was free. Then the fees showed up so I called to cancel it. What a nightmare. I'm pretty sure they use a call center in India for all their Customer Service at the first level. I finally got that taken off. I kept paying my card down.
Note at this point that my credit is as perfect as it could be with no late or missed payments and the only thing counting against me was too much open credit (although much of it was not used). Well I think you can figure out where this is going. Even though my credit was great, Household bank kept raising my interest rates in small incriments until it was close to 28%!!!!
I've never closed a Credit Card until that one. I promptly got a Capital One loan with a fixed monthly payment and paid off that account in full. I then called Household Bank and closed the account. I also swore never to support HSBC or a subsidiary with my business ever again.
You believe the government has a duty to protect you?
Why, yes, actually. Ever heard of "social contract"?
Yes. Usually from people advocating programs that are funded by money not belonging to them.
Money raised from taxes belongs to all of us, governments are electd by and accountable to us, what are you talking about?
But I suppose as long as you're all right on your totally self-sufficient smallholding we can all just ignore you.
Programs funded with other people's money (read: taxes) would be more palatable if there was some logical priorities (like putting basics like defense and police and fire first) and if those advocating the programs were willing to live within a budget.
You forgot a variable in there. Variable D should be the cost of business lost over poor public image in light of the companies unethical and basically moronic and indefensible stance.
So the corrected formula would be A times B times C plus D = X
At the moment, Americans who shop over the Internet from out-of-state vendors usually aren't required to pay sales taxes. Californians buying books from Amazon.com or cameras from Manhattan's B&H Photo, for example, won't be required to cough up the sales taxes that they would if shopping at a local mall.
WRONG!!! Currently retailers are not required to COLLECT the tax. The tax is STILL OWED by the purchaser in the state it is USED in IF they have USE TAX. California has this tax already but it does nothing to enforce it. Reporting is on the honor system.
Now California is pretty corrupt for having such a high sales tax to begin with but they SHOULD enforce their own damn laws or just take them off the books.
You missed the point. Cannot both sides of an argument have players who are corrupt and greedy? There is money on BOTH SIDES! Research Grants from the Government are just as lucrative as well paying jobs as lobbyists for the oil industry.
You don't have to break the DRM to sell the game on eBay or Gamestop if you have the physical disc. Good luck with the digital download because in that case you are only licensing it and it is non-transferable (even though US law says that provision is illegal).
I agree that the USA needs to learn how to be competetive in the global workforce. I think that has to be balanced though with encouraging everyone else to raise their standard of living. Unions have time and time again negotiated themselves out of a job. Its so silly. They should advocate for fair wages and job practices but not take side in individual people's jobs or try to negootiate benefits that 99% of the rest of workers in the USA don't get. I think we need more LEGAL immigration while at the same time actually enforcing the illegal immigration laws.
That makes no sense in a capatalistic society. Trade is fine and dandy but once country cannot have such a huge trade defecit that it imports everything. Know why? Because in Capatalism there is profit. Know where that profit is flowing? Out of the country is where. But it's not so much making things which is the problem as outsourcing the service sector. Usually this results in all kinds of negative externalities which get swept under the rug and ignored. There are even some negative internalities like increased spending on training and travel and culture awareness etc. The point is that it is not cut and dry. At the least the taxes should be the same for onshore vs. offshore production or services.
Actually, if you read any of my other posts you will see I mention that I support Nuclear all the time. I also just said we need to move away from oil. I just know you can't do it at the flip of a switch. That is all.
That's not the point. If you pay attention closely then you will clearly see that the reason that the USA has a trade defecit is because the other countried don't play by THEIR OWN RULES! Take China for instance. Nevermind the constant problem of paying employees less then a minimum wage or the prevailing culture of "one employee, two jobs" or the crazy amount of pollution their industrial revolution is dumping. The REAL problem was their currency. They pegged it to the dollar. They just last week allowed it to float to a more fair level. However this was after years and years of the people in the know yelling from the rooftops that it was a problem.
Take India for instance. Some call centers are expertly run. Cisco TAC is amazing beyond belief. But for every good example of a call center in India there are 10 examples of call centers run by untrained morons who can't even speak in a manner which is recognizable by half the US population. India is not really a country with fair wages either.
So yes, if taxing it gets the job done then I'm all for it because in this war the other side has been breaking all the rules for some time now.
Wow. Look, I don't support the oil industry first of all. I think we should move away from oil. Know what else? We should source all of our oil from the USA until we can wean off of it. Why buy foreign oil when there is oil right here? Know what else? I understand that the economy runs on oil. So I don't support the oil industry, nor am I employed or paid by them. However I AM dependant on them for the time being because my car does not run on hopes and dreams. I COULD lease the Honda Clarity but I don't have that kind of money. The biggest problem people have with AGW is the conclusion the morons in power reach for dealing with it. Let's "Tax them in to oblivion" which really means "let's fuck up the American Economy and make it a third world country". Support alternative energy (especially Nuclear) but don't start some witch hunt on CO2.
No, it's also a fallacy when they make the claim that the argument holds better because they are an authority/expert. The point is an argument has to hold up ON ITS OWN MERIT and not "Because I said so and I'm smarter then you".
Sorry, I didn't know abrubt and statistically insignificant were the same thing. Did you even look at the graphs? Are they all smooth lines and even trajectories; or do they have volatility just like the stock market. You can zoom in on the last 5 years and say the stock market is going down down down but that doesn't change the fact that over the last century the stock market (in aggregate) has gone up as well as much faster then inflation.
Yeah, I agree. However this is Slashdot where the prevailing side of an argument (however extreme) will post first and then get their friends to mod them all up which serves to infuriate the other side to the point that they can't see straight because of all the bias and name calling that the majority throws down.
I agree with you but not with where you are going. In essence I think you left out the point of contention therefore quashing the conflict altogether (but not really). The issue at hand is twofold:
1) How do we make sure that climate change does not get out of hand?
2) How do we balance the measures we take with the need for economic stability and the prevention of famine?
So you make up some story and now all the sudden ACORN is the greatest thing since sliced bread? First off ACORN was a major contributer to the Housing Bubble and a lot more people were hurt when that burst then the other thing you were talking about. They pushed a lot of people who could no afford to buy houses into getting bad loans.
Then how about their voter registration drives where they basically only registered democrats and then a bunch of the "volunteers" got arrested for submitting fake names on the voter rolls? Oh forgot about that one? Guess where their funding came from? Democrats in congress who handed it to them. Pretty nice game there. Pay money to a non-profit to go out and collect more votes for you under the guise of helping the poor and downtrodden. What a bunch of Bullshit. ACORN was so corrupt you could see the corruption from space.
It is not a conspiracy. It is greed. Prove your point and get the grants so you can sit in your ivory tower an continue to espouse your beliefs and not have to do any REAL work and get paid for it. No conspiracy needed. Just follow the money.
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When is the last time you heard about a Google Security exploit? (cue crickets) chirp chirp (end crickets)
Seriously the only thing close to a security vulnerability was not running in SSL mode which already had a simple fix in the users settings to force SSL. I'm sure there have been vulnerabilities but they fixed them before the public ever got wind. That's how its supposed to work by the way.
Sorry but your argument is so full of holes I don't know where to begin. How about the false parallells? How about lumping in two subjects that have nothing to do with each other? How about lumping all Slashdot commenters together? I for one usually disagree with the group think around here. However in this case it happens to be right ( a broken clock is right two times a day).
Microsoft IS being irresponsible here and they HAVE been given a chance to play nice. You don't know the back story but this has been going on for the better part of a decade or longer. Doing Microsoft's work for them should be rewarded by Microsoft. MS should be finding these exploits themselves. These people are not being malicious. They are just using a tactic which is needed in this case to make Microsoft wake up from their ignorant and moronic ways. Like I said, they should be paying these people rewards for doing their work for them. Instead the demonize them in the court of public opinion.
It's times like these I wish I could litterally roll my eyes on the Internet.
It is when you are dealing with Microsoft. They develop secure software for the most part now but they way they respond to notices of vulnerabilities is incomprehensibly prideful and moronic.
Wait, which company do you work for? I want to make sure to never do business with them ever unless the CEO resigns and promises to wear a hat on his head for the rest of his life that says "asshat".
Classic maneuver! As soon as the information is poised to become public, you release it first an disassociate with the members of your organization who are aimed to take the fall.
HSBC also runs Household Bank. I had a credit card with them for about two years. For the first six months it was great because I had a 1.9% interest rate. I know how to read credit card applications and the rate it jumped to was not too high. I mostly have credit cards with no balance on them however I do have some credit card debt. I proceeded to move my debt over to this card by paying the full amount on my other card and the minimum on this one. When the rate jumped, I raised the amount I paid on it every month.
Everything was going swimmingly until the first scam came. The "credit protection" service. I was sold on it as being a trial that was free. Then the fees showed up so I called to cancel it. What a nightmare. I'm pretty sure they use a call center in India for all their Customer Service at the first level. I finally got that taken off. I kept paying my card down.
Note at this point that my credit is as perfect as it could be with no late or missed payments and the only thing counting against me was too much open credit (although much of it was not used). Well I think you can figure out where this is going. Even though my credit was great, Household bank kept raising my interest rates in small incriments until it was close to 28%!!!!
I've never closed a Credit Card until that one. I promptly got a Capital One loan with a fixed monthly payment and paid off that account in full. I then called Household Bank and closed the account. I also swore never to support HSBC or a subsidiary with my business ever again.
Money raised from taxes belongs to all of us, governments are electd by and accountable to us, what are you talking about?
But I suppose as long as you're all right on your totally self-sufficient smallholding we can all just ignore you.
Programs funded with other people's money (read: taxes) would be more palatable if there was some logical priorities (like putting basics like defense and police and fire first) and if those advocating the programs were willing to live within a budget.
You forgot a variable in there. Variable D should be the cost of business lost over poor public image in light of the companies unethical and basically moronic and indefensible stance.
So the corrected formula would be A times B times C plus D = X
WRONG!!! Currently retailers are not required to COLLECT the tax. The tax is STILL OWED by the purchaser in the state it is USED in IF they have USE TAX. California has this tax already but it does nothing to enforce it. Reporting is on the honor system.
Now California is pretty corrupt for having such a high sales tax to begin with but they SHOULD enforce their own damn laws or just take them off the books.
I want to know if it will include just one piece of data; how many times a person took a shit and skipped out on washing their hands! The pigs!
I don't know what part of "Support alternative energy (especially Nuclear)" is ignoring the issue. Please enlighten me.
You missed the point. Cannot both sides of an argument have players who are corrupt and greedy? There is money on BOTH SIDES! Research Grants from the Government are just as lucrative as well paying jobs as lobbyists for the oil industry.
You don't have to break the DRM to sell the game on eBay or Gamestop if you have the physical disc. Good luck with the digital download because in that case you are only licensing it and it is non-transferable (even though US law says that provision is illegal).
I agree that the USA needs to learn how to be competetive in the global workforce. I think that has to be balanced though with encouraging everyone else to raise their standard of living. Unions have time and time again negotiated themselves out of a job. Its so silly. They should advocate for fair wages and job practices but not take side in individual people's jobs or try to negootiate benefits that 99% of the rest of workers in the USA don't get. I think we need more LEGAL immigration while at the same time actually enforcing the illegal immigration laws.
That makes no sense in a capatalistic society. Trade is fine and dandy but once country cannot have such a huge trade defecit that it imports everything. Know why? Because in Capatalism there is profit. Know where that profit is flowing? Out of the country is where. But it's not so much making things which is the problem as outsourcing the service sector. Usually this results in all kinds of negative externalities which get swept under the rug and ignored. There are even some negative internalities like increased spending on training and travel and culture awareness etc. The point is that it is not cut and dry. At the least the taxes should be the same for onshore vs. offshore production or services.
Actually, if you read any of my other posts you will see I mention that I support Nuclear all the time. I also just said we need to move away from oil. I just know you can't do it at the flip of a switch. That is all.
That's not the point. If you pay attention closely then you will clearly see that the reason that the USA has a trade defecit is because the other countried don't play by THEIR OWN RULES! Take China for instance. Nevermind the constant problem of paying employees less then a minimum wage or the prevailing culture of "one employee, two jobs" or the crazy amount of pollution their industrial revolution is dumping. The REAL problem was their currency. They pegged it to the dollar. They just last week allowed it to float to a more fair level. However this was after years and years of the people in the know yelling from the rooftops that it was a problem.
Take India for instance. Some call centers are expertly run. Cisco TAC is amazing beyond belief. But for every good example of a call center in India there are 10 examples of call centers run by untrained morons who can't even speak in a manner which is recognizable by half the US population. India is not really a country with fair wages either.
So yes, if taxing it gets the job done then I'm all for it because in this war the other side has been breaking all the rules for some time now.
Wow. Look, I don't support the oil industry first of all. I think we should move away from oil. Know what else? We should source all of our oil from the USA until we can wean off of it. Why buy foreign oil when there is oil right here? Know what else? I understand that the economy runs on oil. So I don't support the oil industry, nor am I employed or paid by them. However I AM dependant on them for the time being because my car does not run on hopes and dreams. I COULD lease the Honda Clarity but I don't have that kind of money. The biggest problem people have with AGW is the conclusion the morons in power reach for dealing with it. Let's "Tax them in to oblivion" which really means "let's fuck up the American Economy and make it a third world country". Support alternative energy (especially Nuclear) but don't start some witch hunt on CO2.
No, it's also a fallacy when they make the claim that the argument holds better because they are an authority/expert. The point is an argument has to hold up ON ITS OWN MERIT and not "Because I said so and I'm smarter then you".
Sorry, I didn't know abrubt and statistically insignificant were the same thing. Did you even look at the graphs? Are they all smooth lines and even trajectories; or do they have volatility just like the stock market. You can zoom in on the last 5 years and say the stock market is going down down down but that doesn't change the fact that over the last century the stock market (in aggregate) has gone up as well as much faster then inflation.
Yeah, I agree. However this is Slashdot where the prevailing side of an argument (however extreme) will post first and then get their friends to mod them all up which serves to infuriate the other side to the point that they can't see straight because of all the bias and name calling that the majority throws down.
I agree with you but not with where you are going. In essence I think you left out the point of contention therefore quashing the conflict altogether (but not really). The issue at hand is twofold:
1) How do we make sure that climate change does not get out of hand?
2) How do we balance the measures we take with the need for economic stability and the prevention of famine?
So you make up some story and now all the sudden ACORN is the greatest thing since sliced bread? First off ACORN was a major contributer to the Housing Bubble and a lot more people were hurt when that burst then the other thing you were talking about. They pushed a lot of people who could no afford to buy houses into getting bad loans.
Then how about their voter registration drives where they basically only registered democrats and then a bunch of the "volunteers" got arrested for submitting fake names on the voter rolls? Oh forgot about that one? Guess where their funding came from? Democrats in congress who handed it to them. Pretty nice game there. Pay money to a non-profit to go out and collect more votes for you under the guise of helping the poor and downtrodden. What a bunch of Bullshit. ACORN was so corrupt you could see the corruption from space.
It is not a conspiracy. It is greed. Prove your point and get the grants so you can sit in your ivory tower an continue to espouse your beliefs and not have to do any REAL work and get paid for it. No conspiracy needed. Just follow the money.