Actually, that doesn't seem to be the case. I've been staring at the results of file copy from drive-to-itself, wondering why the Velociraptor still crushes the X25.
Sometimes the X25 is behind by just 0.5MB/sec. Sometimes it's behind by over 20MB/sec.
When copying from a drive to itself, a HDD is normally crippled by the fact that typically different areas and partitions will cause the actuator arm to seek to a different location for each chunk. That seek time often costs you most of the time spent doing the file dupe.
"free as in freedom" is a distortion because it is still ambiguous what perspective the freedom comes from.
My baseline interpretation of freedom with regards to open source development is that BSD/MIT is vastly more "free" than GNU. And understanding this, I recognize that you may think the opposite.
"The best outcome for the OpenMoko project is similar to that for OLPC - have other manufacturers take their designs and build improved versions."
The problem is, OpenMoko is so far behind usable that most manufacturers might as well just start from scratch.
While it sounds nice that OpenMoko has hardware designs already available, most fans of it don't seem to know that chipsets from vendors like Qualcomm include all this as well. Schematics, a reference design, a premade board with plenty of testpoints, and a software stack that boots faster than 2 minutes.
If a manufacturer wanted to make a phone, using OpenMoko as a baseline is worse than a dev kit from a chipset manufacturer.
I must say, it's amazing that Free Software people all seem to be focused on developing on x86, which comes from the least likely to be Free hardware company.
At the least, IBM will license PowerPC cores, ARM will license ARM cores, and Sun has the OSI-approved UltraSparc T1 which anybody with access to a fab can make.
If anybody truly believes in a Free platform, while certainly not free (as in cost), they shouldn't be on Intel. They should be on a UltraSparc T1.
So the funny thing is ducomputergeek and pandrijeczko seem to be approaching each other's conflicts from two perspectives.
pandrijeczko is apparently against "proprietary" formats from a idealistic ("proprietary == bad") standpoint. ducomputergeek is approaching the battle from a usability ("does it hurt me?") standpoint.
I really don't have any questions for ducomputergeek since, well, he's apparently okay with proprietary technologies as long as they're transparent, so there's little conflict.
But pandrijeczko, you give examples of two formats which I consider proprietary (Quicktime and FairPlay). (I consider MP4/AAC/H264 as proprietary OggVorbis, which isn't that much.) I gotta ask. Why does it matter if proprietary data formats exist on a particular platform, if they're not used for lock-in AND there is an option to use non-proprietary formats?
Are you okay with the fact that the most common video container format used on Linux is AVI? Or do you not have any AVIs? (Keep in mind, AVIs are a container format just like Quicktime, and in fact Microsoft got sued for stealing code to make VideoForWindows, which is the origin of the AVI format.)
We Love Katamari: I pirated it, then bought it. Then loaned it out to friends to get them addicted.
and Star Ocean 3: I pirated disc 1 to play the game, loved the first half. And then bought it for disc 2 instead of pirating disc 2.
Going the other direction: I bought and played FFX. (no mod chips on PS2 at the time), and I enjoyed it for the most part. I downloaded FFX-2 later, and think maybe logged about 2 hours on it in the last two years. Obviously not going to buy it if I don't even feel the need to level the characters to lvl 10.
Music: I like japanese pop music, however it's hard to buy out here. So while I was overseas, I bought several legit Ayumi Hamasaki and Koda Kumi albums to balance out my downloaded mp3s of their music.
While TPM chips were "shipped" by the literal sense of the word, all the machines which had the TPM chips were recalled back after the first set of Intel macs were available to the general public because the agreement was that those P4 units were on loan. (yes, I got one for work for quite a while.) So no TPM chips were ever actually sold.
Dunno about the itunes thing you mentioned though. I have one email address associated with itunes and so far it's practically spam free. So I haven't noticed anything there.
Nevertheless, I too skipped 10.3 because I thought it was a downgrade from 10.2, and totally understand that sometimes a Mac doesn't work for everyone. I myself have used Linux on multiple occasions, and while it's great for servers, the user experience for me has been subpar. I'm currently considering loading Nexenta/OpenSolaris on a number of my personal PCs. We'll see how that fares soon.
FYI, you do know that the shipping Macs don't have the "Treacherous Computing" facilities installed, right?
The TPM chips were part of a reference board Intel provided for the P4 dev stations, so I think it's fairly obvious that the TPM chips were there only because it costs Intel more to retool and handle manufacturing a batch of boards without them.
Like you seriously believe the average computer user would really buy OSX for PCs retail at $400....
The minute something like that actually gets launched, you and I both know that even if somebody here bought a copy, it's going to get installed on more than just one machine.
In SPECmark, it's about the same performance as a P3 at the same clock speed.
This actually puts it on par with a Core2 Solo at the same speed, but uses better than 1/6th the power. (I don't know northbridge power usage for Core2.)
I recall reading that Conroe at 1.2Ghz uses up 19W WITHOUT the northbridge. And Godson/Loongson at 1.0Ghz uses 4W INCLUDING the Northbridge. This also put Loongson at better (within 10%) power consumption than the Freescale e600, the latest iteration of the PowerPC G4 (released after the Apple-Intel transition).
Overall, it shows: 1) how much of a slacker Motorola was with the G4 (in that Loongson achieved identical performance per watt and performance per clock in less time) 2) how little impact Core2 makes on the overall picture in the history of processor design (in that Loongson achieved much better performance per watt and performance per clock in much less time, and much less money)
I wanted to put a laser scanner, using a visible red class 1 laser, on the front of my car. I'll have it sweep horizontally fast to draw a line. And when the beam hits an object, a bright spot will light up like a laser pointer striking a piece of paper. And I'll have that sweep vertically, to cover a 2D area of brightly colored dots.
Why? So when I drive to Lake Tahoe in thick fog, I want to know if there's any cars in front of me. Or anything else.
The problem? If I activated it for a quick scan of the area, I'm sure I'd scare the bejeezers out of any other cars in the area because they'll think it's a weapon, or an alien abduction, or something.
Yeah, I love it! Seriously. It's no more proprietary than x86/x64, especially when "proprietary MIPS" simply translates to "It's almost MIPS3 except we didn't implement the useless but patent-encumbered instructions."
I'll back you up. A used Linksys router was given to me. It boots up only like once every 20 power cycles but will stay working for months if it boots up.
After a power outage, I noticed the power supply makes a weird buzzing noise. So I cracked the power supply open to find that one of the large capacitors is burned out. Replaced the power supply with another one and the router has been rock solid.
Hmm, doesn't that kinda suck for TrollTech? They're releasing a product which provides others with free code, but not allowed to incorporate fixes/improvements from those users, right?
I'm guessing the GPL has a clause making it not possible to add a clause for the GPL'd version stating that all changes must be licensed to TrollTech for both versions?
Legacy mode. If your BIOS defaulted to using legacy mode for your SATA controller, Linux and Windows XP, and Win2k, and all sorts of stuff will "just work."
Ubuntu's installer totally died on me two years ago because it didn't know what SATA was. Flipping that switch in the BIOS made the magic happen. (Well, until other bad experiences happened within Ubuntu.)
Here's the thing. You have 10 years of experience. You know of custom boot parameters for qwerky chipsets.
Most people trying linux don't. And they never will because it doesn't need to be done on XP or OSX.
Heck, Nexenta/OpenSolaris actually was more successful for me than Ubuntu in terms of getting a installed and updated machine. (Ubuntu on a stock Dell Dimension 370 kept crashing when downloading updates)
Something I must ask.... Has it ever occurred to the people who assemble Linux distros as well as the people who make some of this software that many people will never bother to figure out what the stuff is?
Check it out:
Here's some of the stuff Windows comes with: Notepad Paint Internet Explorer Calculator Movie Maker Solitaire MineSweeper Pinball
Here's some of the stuff Ubuntu has available: (as you mentioned) CD Creator CD Extractor OpenOffice Movie Player Tux Racer
Notice what I picked to list?
Notice what I didn't?
Windows: Outlook Express (wtf does outlook have to do with mail? And how can "outlook" be fast?)
Ubuntu: Evolution (wtf does evolution do?) K3B (k what? sounds like a sports car.) F-Spot (that's one letter short of something else involving the letter F.... but I'm going to guess this app ain't going to give me porn) Transmission (Hey, I kinda understand.... but uh, transmit what? ftp? mail? chat? Oh oh! does it do Zmodem?) GIMP (Like I'd want to use an app who's name means handicapped. Still doesn't tell me what it does. Maybe it trashes my computer?)
Seriously! W. T. F.?
Yeah, Ubuntu has a package manager that helps you install stuff nice and easy. If only you knew what to install. Windows apps might suck, but hey, it's pretty darn obvious what "Calculator" does. It's less obvious what "gdcalc" does. And it's not at all obvious what "bc" is.
Hasn't it occurred to anybody that maybe there should be a search box which takes in generic search info to figure out what kind of apps it should suggest to the user whether they type in "paint" or "image editor"? If you say "bittorrent" it'd be nice to be told back, "Transmission - it's simple and fast. great for downloading" followed by "Azureus - powerful and featureful but slow and complicated to learn."
Disclaimer: I've installed Ubuntu and used it daily before and I seriously don't know what K3B or F-Spot are. And frankly, with names like that, I don't care. If I don't care, I'm sure other people would be even more frustrated.
As long as it's not exclusively GPL'd. If ZFS was exclusively GPL, it's essentially a dead end technology since nobody else aside from Linux would adopt it. It'd be like NTFS. A filesystem for one OS.
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What? pedobear's out there fishing the kids out of the water?
Actually, that doesn't seem to be the case. I've been staring at the results of file copy from drive-to-itself, wondering why the Velociraptor still crushes the X25.
Sometimes the X25 is behind by just 0.5MB/sec. Sometimes it's behind by over 20MB/sec.
When copying from a drive to itself, a HDD is normally crippled by the fact that typically different areas and partitions will cause the actuator arm to seek to a different location for each chunk. That seek time often costs you most of the time spent doing the file dupe.
"free as in freedom" is a distortion because it is still ambiguous what perspective the freedom comes from.
My baseline interpretation of freedom with regards to open source development is that BSD/MIT is vastly more "free" than GNU. And understanding this, I recognize that you may think the opposite.
So how does this affect open source projects like VLC?
Does it mean that in the US, it's not legal to distribute a Linux distro with VLC?
The old one did not support UMTS.
Furthermore, the GSM line of 3G technologies (UMTS, WCDMA, etc) is not widely deployed in the United States, no matter how AT&T is willing to spin it.
The primary 3G networks in the US are EVDO, run by Verizon and Sprint. Not compatible with UMTS.
Just curious, since I seriously don't know the details. Why is a MPEG license necessary for a commercially supportable MPEG player?
Can't we just make a more friendly version of mplayer or vlc? They didn't need licenses, right?
"The best outcome for the OpenMoko project is similar to that for OLPC - have other manufacturers take their designs and build improved versions."
The problem is, OpenMoko is so far behind usable that most manufacturers might as well just start from scratch.
While it sounds nice that OpenMoko has hardware designs already available, most fans of it don't seem to know that chipsets from vendors like Qualcomm include all this as well. Schematics, a reference design, a premade board with plenty of testpoints, and a software stack that boots faster than 2 minutes.
If a manufacturer wanted to make a phone, using OpenMoko as a baseline is worse than a dev kit from a chipset manufacturer.
I must say, it's amazing that Free Software people all seem to be focused on developing on x86, which comes from the least likely to be Free hardware company.
At the least, IBM will license PowerPC cores, ARM will license ARM cores, and Sun has the OSI-approved UltraSparc T1 which anybody with access to a fab can make.
If anybody truly believes in a Free platform, while certainly not free (as in cost), they shouldn't be on Intel. They should be on a UltraSparc T1.
So the funny thing is ducomputergeek and pandrijeczko seem to be approaching each other's conflicts from two perspectives.
pandrijeczko is apparently against "proprietary" formats from a idealistic ("proprietary == bad") standpoint.
ducomputergeek is approaching the battle from a usability ("does it hurt me?") standpoint.
I really don't have any questions for ducomputergeek since, well, he's apparently okay with proprietary technologies as long as they're transparent, so there's little conflict.
But pandrijeczko, you give examples of two formats which I consider proprietary (Quicktime and FairPlay). (I consider MP4/AAC/H264 as proprietary OggVorbis, which isn't that much.)
I gotta ask. Why does it matter if proprietary data formats exist on a particular platform, if they're not used for lock-in AND there is an option to use non-proprietary formats?
Are you okay with the fact that the most common video container format used on Linux is AVI? Or do you not have any AVIs?
(Keep in mind, AVIs are a container format just like Quicktime, and in fact Microsoft got sued for stealing code to make VideoForWindows, which is the origin of the AVI format.)
We Love Katamari:
I pirated it, then bought it. Then loaned it out to friends to get them addicted.
and Star Ocean 3:
I pirated disc 1 to play the game, loved the first half. And then bought it for disc 2 instead of pirating disc 2.
Going the other direction:
I bought and played FFX. (no mod chips on PS2 at the time), and I enjoyed it for the most part. I downloaded FFX-2 later, and think maybe logged about 2 hours on it in the last two years. Obviously not going to buy it if I don't even feel the need to level the characters to lvl 10.
Music:
I like japanese pop music, however it's hard to buy out here. So while I was overseas, I bought several legit Ayumi Hamasaki and Koda Kumi albums to balance out my downloaded mp3s of their music.
Pirated apps can't be revoked using this method since it appears that it revokes apps, not app instances.
So, it can't distinguish between a pirated one and a non-pirated one. Revoking pirated ones results in purchased ones being revoked too.
While TPM chips were "shipped" by the literal sense of the word, all the machines which had the TPM chips were recalled back after the first set of Intel macs were available to the general public because the agreement was that those P4 units were on loan. (yes, I got one for work for quite a while.) So no TPM chips were ever actually sold.
Dunno about the itunes thing you mentioned though. I have one email address associated with itunes and so far it's practically spam free. So I haven't noticed anything there.
Nevertheless, I too skipped 10.3 because I thought it was a downgrade from 10.2, and totally understand that sometimes a Mac doesn't work for everyone. I myself have used Linux on multiple occasions, and while it's great for servers, the user experience for me has been subpar. I'm currently considering loading Nexenta/OpenSolaris on a number of my personal PCs. We'll see how that fares soon.
FYI, you do know that the shipping Macs don't have the "Treacherous Computing" facilities installed, right?
The TPM chips were part of a reference board Intel provided for the P4 dev stations, so I think it's fairly obvious that the TPM chips were there only because it costs Intel more to retool and handle manufacturing a batch of boards without them.
Like you seriously believe the average computer user would really buy OSX for PCs retail at $400....
The minute something like that actually gets launched, you and I both know that even if somebody here bought a copy, it's going to get installed on more than just one machine.
According to some guy on blogspot: http://myloongson.blogspot.com/2007_01_01_archive.html
In SPECmark, it's about the same performance as a P3 at the same clock speed.
This actually puts it on par with a Core2 Solo at the same speed, but uses better than 1/6th the power. (I don't know northbridge power usage for Core2.)
I recall reading that Conroe at 1.2Ghz uses up 19W WITHOUT the northbridge. And Godson/Loongson at 1.0Ghz uses 4W INCLUDING the Northbridge. This also put Loongson at better (within 10%) power consumption than the Freescale e600, the latest iteration of the PowerPC G4 (released after the Apple-Intel transition).
Overall, it shows:
1) how much of a slacker Motorola was with the G4 (in that Loongson achieved identical performance per watt and performance per clock in less time)
2) how little impact Core2 makes on the overall picture in the history of processor design (in that Loongson achieved much better performance per watt and performance per clock in much less time, and much less money)
So I had a "great idea" about 4 years ago.
I wanted to put a laser scanner, using a visible red class 1 laser, on the front of my car.
I'll have it sweep horizontally fast to draw a line. And when the beam hits an object, a bright spot will light up like a laser pointer striking a piece of paper.
And I'll have that sweep vertically, to cover a 2D area of brightly colored dots.
Why? So when I drive to Lake Tahoe in thick fog, I want to know if there's any cars in front of me. Or anything else.
The problem? If I activated it for a quick scan of the area, I'm sure I'd scare the bejeezers out of any other cars in the area because they'll think it's a weapon, or an alien abduction, or something.
Yeah, I love it! Seriously. It's no more proprietary than x86/x64, especially when "proprietary MIPS" simply translates to "It's almost MIPS3 except we didn't implement the useless but patent-encumbered instructions."
They did, it's called xBox 360.
So who here has a problem with not being able to run that port of NT on their G5?
*crickets*
Okay then.
I'll back you up.
A used Linksys router was given to me. It boots up only like once every 20 power cycles but will stay working for months if it boots up.
After a power outage, I noticed the power supply makes a weird buzzing noise. So I cracked the power supply open to find that one of the large capacitors is burned out. Replaced the power supply with another one and the router has been rock solid.
Hmm, doesn't that kinda suck for TrollTech? They're releasing a product which provides others with free code, but not allowed to incorporate fixes/improvements from those users, right?
I'm guessing the GPL has a clause making it not possible to add a clause for the GPL'd version stating that all changes must be licensed to TrollTech for both versions?
Legacy mode.
If your BIOS defaulted to using legacy mode for your SATA controller, Linux and Windows XP, and Win2k, and all sorts of stuff will "just work."
Ubuntu's installer totally died on me two years ago because it didn't know what SATA was. Flipping that switch in the BIOS made the magic happen. (Well, until other bad experiences happened within Ubuntu.)
Here's the thing. You have 10 years of experience.
You know of custom boot parameters for qwerky chipsets.
Most people trying linux don't. And they never will because it doesn't need to be done on XP or OSX.
Heck, Nexenta/OpenSolaris actually was more successful for me than Ubuntu in terms of getting a installed and updated machine. (Ubuntu on a stock Dell Dimension 370 kept crashing when downloading updates)
Something I must ask.... Has it ever occurred to the people who assemble Linux distros as well as the people who make some of this software that many people will never bother to figure out what the stuff is?
Check it out:
Here's some of the stuff Windows comes with:
Notepad
Paint
Internet Explorer
Calculator
Movie Maker
Solitaire
MineSweeper
Pinball
Here's some of the stuff Ubuntu has available: (as you mentioned)
CD Creator
CD Extractor
OpenOffice
Movie Player
Tux Racer
Notice what I picked to list?
Notice what I didn't?
Windows:
Outlook Express (wtf does outlook have to do with mail? And how can "outlook" be fast?)
Ubuntu:
Evolution (wtf does evolution do?)
K3B (k what? sounds like a sports car.)
F-Spot (that's one letter short of something else involving the letter F.... but I'm going to guess this app ain't going to give me porn)
Transmission (Hey, I kinda understand.... but uh, transmit what? ftp? mail? chat? Oh oh! does it do Zmodem?)
GIMP (Like I'd want to use an app who's name means handicapped. Still doesn't tell me what it does. Maybe it trashes my computer?)
Seriously!
W. T. F.?
Yeah, Ubuntu has a package manager that helps you install stuff nice and easy. If only you knew what to install.
Windows apps might suck, but hey, it's pretty darn obvious what "Calculator" does. It's less obvious what "gdcalc" does. And it's not at all obvious what "bc" is.
Hasn't it occurred to anybody that maybe there should be a search box which takes in generic search info to figure out what kind of apps it should suggest to the user whether they type in "paint" or "image editor"? If you say "bittorrent" it'd be nice to be told back, "Transmission - it's simple and fast. great for downloading" followed by "Azureus - powerful and featureful but slow and complicated to learn."
Disclaimer: I've installed Ubuntu and used it daily before and I seriously don't know what K3B or F-Spot are. And frankly, with names like that, I don't care. If I don't care, I'm sure other people would be even more frustrated.
Considering you posted this twice, I think you're just trolling, paranoid, or ignorant.
The argument the parent made makes reasonable sense to me.
If you can suggest a GPL-compatible license which accommodates the reasons stated, let us know.
As long as it's not exclusively GPL'd.
If ZFS was exclusively GPL, it's essentially a dead end technology since nobody else aside from Linux would adopt it. It'd be like NTFS. A filesystem for one OS.