Last week we heard how the DPRK was responsible for Wannacry. Today it's back to the NSA. Can we at least keep our talking points consistent?
PS. Sucks for Toyota no matter who did it, and sucks even more if US "intelligence" is at fault for creating these tools and letting them out of a lab. (Intelligence is intentionally quoted because many who work in that area are quite frankly not.)
Resistance to propaganda != resistance to an investigation. I don't know anyone who has complained about the investigation. I know plenty of people who complain about the constant stream of statements being made by media conglomerates making baseless claims.
Except for women, who shouldn't be able to make their own medical decisions.
Completely asinine framing of the Abortion debate. Not that you could debate the subject with any degree of intelligence, but there are some good papers and debates out there in case a drive by reads your idiocy. Hint: There is a human growing inside a woman during pregnancy.
Or gays or straight who like butt stuff. The State has an obligation to criminalize that for some reason.
Well, 2 for 2 in attempting to minimize complex issues to a single asinine point. Republicans in general don't care about sexual preferences. The debate has been over much more complex issues, such as as person wanting to force another person to act against their Religious beliefs in a private business. There are also some interesting points regarding adoption, health care, etc.. etc...
Or hermaphrodites, because where they take a piss is suuuuuper important to national defense interests.
Well, 3 out of 3 times so far you have demonstrated you lack any intellect at all. Are you seriously attempting to claim all transvestites/transexuals are hermaphrodites? Perhaps your claim is that instead of who really was demanding to let men who dress as women for any reason into the woman's rest room, it was just a few innocent hermaphrodites? In either case you are wrong! Why not listen to an actual transvestite on the subject and find "Blaire White".
Oh and drugs other than tobacco and alcohol. Because people shouldn't get high from weed they grow on their farm. Dry in their barn and smoke in their home. Because reasons.
And I'm not even interested in that stuff. Republican economic policies are even more absurd.
Well, you just explained your lack of brain cells and lack of ability to debate complex topics at even a junior high school level. Sure, you don't worry about weed (which is why you mentioned it) *wink wink*. Go back to your bong.
Americans have Democratic policies everywhere. From ACA which most American's didn't want to "Sanctuary" Cities and States which ignore and fight against Federal Law and the US Constitution. Gun-Free Zones are a product of Democratic control, Democrats push back against school choice, and have propagated SJWs, BLM, antifa, and other groups who behave both violently and criminally.
Most of us on the R side just want to be left the f&*k alone and want Government to be minimized. Pretty much what we are supposed to be guaranteed in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. The far left believes that Government can solve all of our problems and should be pervasive.
Lets not forget that the Democratic party wanted slavery and fought a Civil war over it. The Democratic Party voted for Jim Crow laws, and still promotes identity politics and tribalism. The first Republican President fought to rid the US of slavery, and the Republican Party voted to end discrimination, tests for voting, and voted fpr racial equality in the 60s. And before you talk about the "bit switch", that do some homework and find out that it was exactly 1 person who changed sides.
You are living in a delusional lie if you believe all your problems are from Republicans.
My, how quickly we forget about the Snowden leaks. How quickly we forget about topping nearly a dozen countries in the Middle East, sponsoring colored revolutions all over the Middle East and Eastern Europe.
The US Government (at least certain sections) was caught treating everyone as an enemy.
I'm not in any way endorsing or approving of Russia, I am saying that if the US behavior is no better we should be fixing our own. Nowhere in the list of Noble Traits will you find the word "hypocrite".
Something to consider: Russia's defensive claims of Tit-for-tat would not have merit if the US didn't provide a tat for them.
Sure, the Tea Party. Full of protestors out silencing people using violence, claiming that if a law gets changed people will literally die (count all the Progressives/Dems who claim that thousands to millions will die if ACA gets changed, or from the US pulling out of the Paris Accords), threatening to blow up the White House, and claiming that the streets should be full of violence due to an election.
Mark Levin is brilliant, Steven Crowder I find hilarious, and really that's all the time I have normally. I have watched some of the other shows and they are good too.
The assumption of intent is the problem. Seeing an "ism/obe/ist" everywhere means that you assume the worst possible intent at all times. How many people would have searched for Richard Spencer if not for running a Google search after reading/hearing smears against Milo (I mentioned way up)? Hell, I would not have known the name except for the smear campaign. I read about him because I wanted first hand information to form an opinion with. According to this survey, my inquiry was probably labelled "racist" because the assumed intent was not curiosity/fact finding.
Apology for submitting half a post... The act of recognition of Race/Religion/Ethnicity is not bad. My ancestry is Hillbilly. Hillbilly is not in and of itself derogatory. Even terms like you mention could be used in non-derogatory ways. Comedy is an easy one, but also description of events, etc...
Most importantly, how does Google or any other search engine know the reason you are searching for those terms? If you are posting racist comments I could see making a claim like TFA does that racism is a wide spread problem. Membership in racist groups would also be a measure. Searching for a set of keywords? Not an indication of racism.
How do they count people as "racist" exactly? If I say "he is Japanese" is that counted? Now change Japanese to any Race/Ethnicity/Religion that you like. Is that counted as a "racist"? How about if you search for "Japanese fighter"?
Google may give some information, but how did his study account for the Streisand effect? How many people would have searched for various groups if not for the media playing the guilt by association game with people they want to smear? An easy example would be Milo Yiannopoulos. (Not defending everything he says or does, but the associations with being a homophobe and racist were used as part of the smear campaign.)
Recognizing we are different is not in and of itself racist, but a recognition of fact. It is how we treat each other based on our differences that makes a person racist. Today compared to when I was younger, racism is not worse. I'd say in some demographics it's much better, and in others much worse, but overall the same.
Well known tyrannical strategy at play: Keep the masses pitted against each other and you can do whatever you wish.
Nothing at all like arguing climate science. The majority of people agree that pollution is a problem, but disagree that taxing a populace (US) and redistributing their wealth will fix anything.
In the "Russia" investigation, it is well known that Russia hacks and attempts to hack the US. Just like China does to the US and Russia, the US does to Russia and China, etc... The specific allegation is that Russia "changed" the outcome of the election and stole it from Clinton. That allegation is where facts are lacking, and all we have are "anonymous" reports and innuendo/allegation. That is a very serious charge not to have facts.
Get off your high horse. I have worked in IT Security for 3 decades. I
it's not a "ban" function, it's a censorship function. Just like we have already seen in Twitter, Facebook, and the majority of MSM. A "ban" leaves a trace so is not nearly as nefarious or evil as a selective blackout of information and opinion.
The idea that the best lies contain a thread of truth is not something new. Hell, Socrates talked about exactly that aspect of the Sophists and why that made them evil. It's easy to manipulate when you "appear" to be open and honest.
Which is exactly why you point to NOTHING! Show me a single fact. Not a statement from a political figure, not a statement from an anonymous source, but a fact. For every unofficial claim of "Russia" hacking there is another statement from that same person (as well as others) ON THE RECORD stating "no evidence" of collusion and Russia did not change or manipulate any votes.
In other words, you are claiming that Clapper, Obama, Comey, etc.. are all Liars who committed perjury. Are you leading the "Lock them up!" chant?
Brush up on your history comrade, I understand the Stalinist/Leninist tactics being used because I have studied them. Other tyrannical states (Germany, Italy, Japan, Cambodia, Cuba, DPRK, etc.. etc.. ) use the same tactics to criminalize people they dislike too.
Facts are what account for evidence, not baseless biased allegations. If you disagree, remember that an anonymous source alleges that you sell heroin at junior high schools to support your desires for pedophilia. One source not enough? How about 5 anonymous sources, all with the same allegation against you. If baseless allegation counts, turn yourself into the Police for immediate criminal processing.
So you think we should just ignore all of the massive amount of evidence from a dizzying array of sources, many of them independent and professional with no stake in the political world, just because you think it's all a gigantic sour grapes excuse argument?
The person you responded to stated very clearly the same thing most of us who are not leftists/progressives have been saying. SHOW US SOME EVIDENCE! What we have is a report based on 3rd party paid for by the DNC claiming "Russia" hacked the DNC. The FBI requested access to the servers to run a Federal investigation and were REFUSED!
Anonymously source claims are not evidence! For all we know there could be one person responsible for every single anonymous source. Read the statements on the record by Comey, Clapper, Obama, etc.. etc.. who all stated that the Election was not tampered with. Not 1 vote was changed, and according to them not one vote was cast illegally. (and we just had 12 Democrats indited for voter fraud, link so we know that issues exist, but no evidence that a R or Trump did anything illegal). We were promised an investigation into fraud, and I'm hoping it's either underway or will still be completed.
The sources in TFA are all biased sources. I don't see anything new here, just the same old Stalinist tactics we have seen since last July from the Democratic party and MSM. If you want to sway my opinion, start producing facts.
Like many others, I don't fall for appeals to emotion, appeals to authority, or ad hominem. I study facts!
The flat out denial of facts makes it pretty easy to spot the progressive/SJW/leftard/commie (all pretty interchangeable in the US at this point). Winner didn't try to use the chain of command to no avail, and leaked inconsequential information which at best could be used as "politically embarrassing" (according to even the far left media).
The only people applauding her are the same ones applauding all of the Stalinist tactics being used to smear the current President and his administration. More and more people are seeing those tactics for what they are, and see the useful idiots for who they are.
If you hire someone to clean your house and they break an expensive vase on their first day, do you say they should have had a more senior cleaner shadow them for a while?
Or do you expect them to arrive with the basic skills they claimed to have during the interview?
If I hire someone trained as a professional driver to drive my car and they head at 120mph down the wrong side of the freeway totaling the car and causing untold damage to other cars, you bet your ass they would be fired.
Even that however is not a good analogy, because I'm supposed to have a guy in charge (CTO) of ensuring drivers can actually drive. I'm not going to speculate further on the size of the company because it's not relevant. The CTO is mentioned as firing the guy, and the CTO should be fired right along with him. The guy in charge of backups should be fired also (also mentioned in the story).
Why is it that a US Politician doing something which favors the US is giving a "middle finger" to the world? India stating in that same accord that they would not take any action until they received $2 Trillion dollars was not a middle finger to the world? The majority of countries not having to take any action yet receiving US Tax payer dollars in "aid" is not a middle finger to the rest of the world?
Sorry, but this was an anti-US agreement. Obama did a whole lot of those, and had no problem telling the world how he felt about the US, so that should not be a surprise. Read the damn thing! Pulling out is Pro-American. Being willing to negotiate a fair treaty, as the Trump administration said they would attempt to do immediately is not giving a middle finger to anyone. The countries who are refusing to talk to the US Administration are giving the finger to the US.
What you said hints at the big picture. Removing the means of identification would protect criminals, who are far more common than actual whistle blowers (of which Reality Winner is not). Forgery is just one crime, but there are a whole lot of other crimes where printer signature is significant. I'd argue that the majority of those happen to be white collar crimes.
Productive people will work, and appreciate a company that gives them some work/life balance. OTOH, you have another segment of the population who does not produce nearly as much. I'm sure you know who they are, because all of us A-type people learn very quickly who slacks and who produces (we have to have connections to get things done ourselves).
Those second type of people are what blow things for the rest of us. Not just through getting caught abusing policies, by killing our moral to the point where we leave and work someplace else.
There is no real universal answer because there are no universal employees.
Not sure how many of you will get the reference in my subject...
From what I could tell, it's a fancy graphics version of Spore where you can play at any stage.
A few noteworthy bits from the dialogue to be disturbed by: 1. Humans grow with a view of "me" in the world but should grow out of that into a new view. Leading into 2. Humans have no more significance than anything else, including atoms, cells, etc...
I'm probably a bit overly sensitive, but this self depreciation has been played pretty hard by social engineers over the last couple decades.
Yet you agree with me that it was "click baity" but not dishonest or disingenuous enough to be FUD. Plain old moronic. If the post was mine, the headline was mine, you could accuse me of spreading FUD. Until then, it's like claiming that a person reporting a murderer must be an accessory. Foolish beyond belief, but I'm guessing the irony of that is lost on you...
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Last week we heard how the DPRK was responsible for Wannacry. Today it's back to the NSA. Can we at least keep our talking points consistent?
PS. Sucks for Toyota no matter who did it, and sucks even more if US "intelligence" is at fault for creating these tools and letting them out of a lab. (Intelligence is intentionally quoted because many who work in that area are quite frankly not.)
Resistance to propaganda != resistance to an investigation. I don't know anyone who has complained about the investigation. I know plenty of people who complain about the constant stream of statements being made by media conglomerates making baseless claims.
Republicans just want to be left alone..
Except for women, who shouldn't be able to make their own medical decisions.
Completely asinine framing of the Abortion debate. Not that you could debate the subject with any degree of intelligence, but there are some good papers and debates out there in case a drive by reads your idiocy. Hint: There is a human growing inside a woman during pregnancy.
Or gays or straight who like butt stuff. The State has an obligation to criminalize that for some reason.
Well, 2 for 2 in attempting to minimize complex issues to a single asinine point. Republicans in general don't care about sexual preferences. The debate has been over much more complex issues, such as as person wanting to force another person to act against their Religious beliefs in a private business. There are also some interesting points regarding adoption, health care, etc.. etc...
Or hermaphrodites, because where they take a piss is suuuuuper important to national defense interests.
Well, 3 out of 3 times so far you have demonstrated you lack any intellect at all. Are you seriously attempting to claim all transvestites/transexuals are hermaphrodites? Perhaps your claim is that instead of who really was demanding to let men who dress as women for any reason into the woman's rest room, it was just a few innocent hermaphrodites? In either case you are wrong! Why not listen to an actual transvestite on the subject and find "Blaire White".
Oh and drugs other than tobacco and alcohol. Because people shouldn't get high from weed they grow on their farm. Dry in their barn and smoke in their home. Because reasons.
And I'm not even interested in that stuff. Republican economic policies are even more absurd.
Well, you just explained your lack of brain cells and lack of ability to debate complex topics at even a junior high school level. Sure, you don't worry about weed (which is why you mentioned it) *wink wink*. Go back to your bong.
Americans have Democratic policies everywhere. From ACA which most American's didn't want to "Sanctuary" Cities and States which ignore and fight against Federal Law and the US Constitution. Gun-Free Zones are a product of Democratic control, Democrats push back against school choice, and have propagated SJWs, BLM, antifa, and other groups who behave both violently and criminally.
Most of us on the R side just want to be left the f&*k alone and want Government to be minimized. Pretty much what we are supposed to be guaranteed in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. The far left believes that Government can solve all of our problems and should be pervasive.
Lets not forget that the Democratic party wanted slavery and fought a Civil war over it. The Democratic Party voted for Jim Crow laws, and still promotes identity politics and tribalism. The first Republican President fought to rid the US of slavery, and the Republican Party voted to end discrimination, tests for voting, and voted fpr racial equality in the 60s. And before you talk about the "bit switch", that do some homework and find out that it was exactly 1 person who changed sides.
You are living in a delusional lie if you believe all your problems are from Republicans.
My, how quickly we forget about the Snowden leaks. How quickly we forget about topping nearly a dozen countries in the Middle East, sponsoring colored revolutions all over the Middle East and Eastern Europe.
The US Government (at least certain sections) was caught treating everyone as an enemy.
I'm not in any way endorsing or approving of Russia, I am saying that if the US behavior is no better we should be fixing our own. Nowhere in the list of Noble Traits will you find the word "hypocrite".
Something to consider: Russia's defensive claims of Tit-for-tat would not have merit if the US didn't provide a tat for them.
Sure, the Tea Party. Full of protestors out silencing people using violence, claiming that if a law gets changed people will literally die (count all the Progressives/Dems who claim that thousands to millions will die if ACA gets changed, or from the US pulling out of the Paris Accords), threatening to blow up the White House, and claiming that the streets should be full of violence due to an election.
That is snark, just in case you miss it.
Mark Levin is brilliant, Steven Crowder I find hilarious, and really that's all the time I have normally. I have watched some of the other shows and they are good too.
The assumption of intent is the problem. Seeing an "ism/obe/ist" everywhere means that you assume the worst possible intent at all times. How many people would have searched for Richard Spencer if not for running a Google search after reading/hearing smears against Milo (I mentioned way up)? Hell, I would not have known the name except for the smear campaign. I read about him because I wanted first hand information to form an opinion with. According to this survey, my inquiry was probably labelled "racist" because the assumed intent was not curiosity/fact finding.
Apology for submitting half a post... The act of recognition of Race/Religion/Ethnicity is not bad. My ancestry is Hillbilly. Hillbilly is not in and of itself derogatory. Even terms like you mention could be used in non-derogatory ways. Comedy is an easy one, but also description of events, etc...
Most importantly, how does Google or any other search engine know the reason you are searching for those terms? If you are posting racist comments I could see making a claim like TFA does that racism is a wide spread problem. Membership in racist groups would also be a measure. Searching for a set of keywords? Not an indication of racism.
Are you trying to convince us that since it isn't racist to refer to somebody's nationality,
That is exactly correct.
racism
rsizm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Words do have meaning, and you should really try to learn what words mean before making asinine statements like you just did.
How do they count people as "racist" exactly? If I say "he is Japanese" is that counted? Now change Japanese to any Race/Ethnicity/Religion that you like. Is that counted as a "racist"? How about if you search for "Japanese fighter"?
Google may give some information, but how did his study account for the Streisand effect? How many people would have searched for various groups if not for the media playing the guilt by association game with people they want to smear? An easy example would be Milo Yiannopoulos. (Not defending everything he says or does, but the associations with being a homophobe and racist were used as part of the smear campaign.)
Recognizing we are different is not in and of itself racist, but a recognition of fact. It is how we treat each other based on our differences that makes a person racist. Today compared to when I was younger, racism is not worse. I'd say in some demographics it's much better, and in others much worse, but overall the same.
Well known tyrannical strategy at play: Keep the masses pitted against each other and you can do whatever you wish.
Nothing at all like arguing climate science. The majority of people agree that pollution is a problem, but disagree that taxing a populace (US) and redistributing their wealth will fix anything.
In the "Russia" investigation, it is well known that Russia hacks and attempts to hack the US. Just like China does to the US and Russia, the US does to Russia and China, etc... The specific allegation is that Russia "changed" the outcome of the election and stole it from Clinton. That allegation is where facts are lacking, and all we have are "anonymous" reports and innuendo/allegation. That is a very serious charge not to have facts.
Get off your high horse. I have worked in IT Security for 3 decades. I
it's not a "ban" function, it's a censorship function. Just like we have already seen in Twitter, Facebook, and the majority of MSM. A "ban" leaves a trace so is not nearly as nefarious or evil as a selective blackout of information and opinion.
The idea that the best lies contain a thread of truth is not something new. Hell, Socrates talked about exactly that aspect of the Sophists and why that made them evil. It's easy to manipulate when you "appear" to be open and honest.
Sorry, no - the evidence is out there,
Which is exactly why you point to NOTHING! Show me a single fact. Not a statement from a political figure, not a statement from an anonymous source, but a fact. For every unofficial claim of "Russia" hacking there is another statement from that same person (as well as others) ON THE RECORD stating "no evidence" of collusion and Russia did not change or manipulate any votes.
In other words, you are claiming that Clapper, Obama, Comey, etc.. are all Liars who committed perjury. Are you leading the "Lock them up!" chant?
Brush up on your history comrade, I understand the Stalinist/Leninist tactics being used because I have studied them. Other tyrannical states (Germany, Italy, Japan, Cambodia, Cuba, DPRK, etc.. etc.. ) use the same tactics to criminalize people they dislike too.
Facts are what account for evidence, not baseless biased allegations. If you disagree, remember that an anonymous source alleges that you sell heroin at junior high schools to support your desires for pedophilia. One source not enough? How about 5 anonymous sources, all with the same allegation against you. If baseless allegation counts, turn yourself into the Police for immediate criminal processing.
So you think we should just ignore all of the massive amount of evidence from a dizzying array of sources, many of them independent and professional with no stake in the political world, just because you think it's all a gigantic sour grapes excuse argument?
The person you responded to stated very clearly the same thing most of us who are not leftists/progressives have been saying. SHOW US SOME EVIDENCE! What we have is a report based on 3rd party paid for by the DNC claiming "Russia" hacked the DNC. The FBI requested access to the servers to run a Federal investigation and were REFUSED!
Anonymously source claims are not evidence! For all we know there could be one person responsible for every single anonymous source. Read the statements on the record by Comey, Clapper, Obama, etc.. etc.. who all stated that the Election was not tampered with. Not 1 vote was changed, and according to them not one vote was cast illegally. (and we just had 12 Democrats indited for voter fraud, link so we know that issues exist, but no evidence that a R or Trump did anything illegal). We were promised an investigation into fraud, and I'm hoping it's either underway or will still be completed.
The sources in TFA are all biased sources. I don't see anything new here, just the same old Stalinist tactics we have seen since last July from the Democratic party and MSM. If you want to sway my opinion, start producing facts.
Like many others, I don't fall for appeals to emotion, appeals to authority, or ad hominem. I study facts!
The flat out denial of facts makes it pretty easy to spot the progressive/SJW/leftard/commie (all pretty interchangeable in the US at this point). Winner didn't try to use the chain of command to no avail, and leaked inconsequential information which at best could be used as "politically embarrassing" (according to even the far left media).
The only people applauding her are the same ones applauding all of the Stalinist tactics being used to smear the current President and his administration. More and more people are seeing those tactics for what they are, and see the useful idiots for who they are.
If you hire someone to clean your house and they break an expensive vase on their first day, do you say they should have had a more senior cleaner shadow them for a while?
Or do you expect them to arrive with the basic skills they claimed to have during the interview?
If I hire someone trained as a professional driver to drive my car and they head at 120mph down the wrong side of the freeway totaling the car and causing untold damage to other cars, you bet your ass they would be fired.
Even that however is not a good analogy, because I'm supposed to have a guy in charge (CTO) of ensuring drivers can actually drive. I'm not going to speculate further on the size of the company because it's not relevant. The CTO is mentioned as firing the guy, and the CTO should be fired right along with him. The guy in charge of backups should be fired also (also mentioned in the story).
"Leftism", or perhaps more appropriately "Progressivism". Dennis Prager can educate you on those terms and the ideology.
Why is it that a US Politician doing something which favors the US is giving a "middle finger" to the world? India stating in that same accord that they would not take any action until they received $2 Trillion dollars was not a middle finger to the world? The majority of countries not having to take any action yet receiving US Tax payer dollars in "aid" is not a middle finger to the rest of the world?
Sorry, but this was an anti-US agreement. Obama did a whole lot of those, and had no problem telling the world how he felt about the US, so that should not be a surprise. Read the damn thing! Pulling out is Pro-American. Being willing to negotiate a fair treaty, as the Trump administration said they would attempt to do immediately is not giving a middle finger to anyone. The countries who are refusing to talk to the US Administration are giving the finger to the US.
What you said hints at the big picture. Removing the means of identification would protect criminals, who are far more common than actual whistle blowers (of which Reality Winner is not). Forgery is just one crime, but there are a whole lot of other crimes where printer signature is significant. I'd argue that the majority of those happen to be white collar crimes.
Demonstrating that you have a near single digit IQ and/or the reading comprehension skills of a turnip, you should simply be embarrassed.
Productive people will work, and appreciate a company that gives them some work/life balance. OTOH, you have another segment of the population who does not produce nearly as much. I'm sure you know who they are, because all of us A-type people learn very quickly who slacks and who produces (we have to have connections to get things done ourselves).
Those second type of people are what blow things for the rest of us. Not just through getting caught abusing policies, by killing our moral to the point where we leave and work someplace else.
There is no real universal answer because there are no universal employees.
Not sure how many of you will get the reference in my subject...
From what I could tell, it's a fancy graphics version of Spore where you can play at any stage.
A few noteworthy bits from the dialogue to be disturbed by: 1. Humans grow with a view of "me" in the world but should grow out of that into a new view. Leading into 2. Humans have no more significance than anything else, including atoms, cells, etc...
I'm probably a bit overly sensitive, but this self depreciation has been played pretty hard by social engineers over the last couple decades.
Yet you agree with me that it was "click baity" but not dishonest or disingenuous enough to be FUD. Plain old moronic. If the post was mine, the headline was mine, you could accuse me of spreading FUD. Until then, it's like claiming that a person reporting a murderer must be an accessory. Foolish beyond belief, but I'm guessing the irony of that is lost on you...