How about if you _both_ stop fighting in public? If either of truely represent the community, then you would know how bad this looks.
Grow up. Disliking someone is fine, but bitching about them in public is immature. I suggest you apoligize first to each other, then to the rest of us for the behavior of _both_ of you.
Open forums are not a place for revenge. Take this into the back alley of the next Linux Expo.
"..and, if I accidently get run over by someone in the Department of Sanitation, while crouched in the middle of the road picking up spare change I dropped because of a strong unexpected NW wind, I want to sue their arses"
None of my computers in school ever were solid. Shoot, comparing them to swiss cheese was being too nice. The difference is that they usually weren't networked. It wasn't until freshman year in high school I saw networked computers or a modem (ooh, 1200 baud, oooh appletalk on 56k wire...)
Even on these, people would hack all the games (some fellow figured out how to instantly get warp 20 once he went into 'reverse' in MacTrek, and how to get cloaking on Terran craft..), people would destroy the network, people would put viruses on the server.
I think client-server is better than having individual stations as far as security - but they better hire a sysadmin with a decent head (at my high school after I left, they hired someone into the position just because he was a friend of the principal's.. and he really really bit from what I understand, nothing works anymore at all. The computers are unusable)
I think Nintendo is innocent - I mean they are a lot nicer than Microsoft in this respect- the rare cards _do_ exist, while bugfree microsoft programs..
Let me just say I saw a friend of mine place a 8 of spades on a queen of hearts in windows solitaire once, and leave it at that.
Because human setup and overconfigurability are UNIX traits. NT does everything for you and does many things poorly. So when an NT box gets hacked it is almost always a flaw in the Operating System level (Including IIS, which is now part of the OS) or in the default configuration.
Nothing is going to happen to apache in the default configuration. But if you get all stupid about configuring it you are opening the floodgates. For instance, using a closed-source CGI script and giving it stupid permissions.
Oh come on now, Win9x cannot even be installed without pain and suffering. the Win9x CD is not bootable, and the _only_ way to make a bootdisk is to have a working Win9x install. I have gone without Windows for weeks until I can find a working windows 98 SE machine (must have same version) and make a boot disk. Meanwhile, if I stick my new Redhat Lorax CD in, it autoplays on boot, bringing up a graphical install. Their graphical install is much, much nicer than the Windows 2000 install.
I have to drop to the command prompt in Win9x all the time to do things. The other day I had to do it to delete a corrupted 'super hidden' file (file that does not show up in explorer no matter what). Worst experience was downloading the DirectX7 SDK and having it fail 5 megs away from completion (it is 122 Megs, big over a 33.6)
The file was sitting there, 117 megs done and I couldn't get it. I had to go into the 'Temporary Internet Files' directory in Dos because windows wouldn't display it, and look for it inside the randomly named hidden, system directories in there.
God, if that happened with lynx I would just have to look at the/tmp dir.
Linux will not have a truely good graphical shell until its users prefer that shell to a command prompt. And that will never happen, in all my time using mc I have NEVER said "damn, this is so much faster than just typing 'mv' or 'cp' or running a program". graphical shells are more friendly but trade speed for that friendliness.
Thats call compatibility, not usability, they already had a huge investment in training and a huge amount of data on punch cards, as well as programs written for those IBM machines.
"But would you really opt to run Linux in an x86 emulation mode? Surely running it on the native instruction set/processor, or under an emulation of say Alpha would be much better."
No, I would run it under the native instruction set. Transmeta has several compiler writers and of course linux to make a direct port very speedy.
"This could also make the idea of vmware obsolete, imagine being able to save/restore the machine state to special areas of disk/memory. You could cycle through operating systems rather than terminals using alt + F key."
With many operating systems you can do this already. Hardware and memory access are the only real problems.
method 2: 1. Get a www account on a server. 2. Upload a single page with about 500 XXX banners, popup windows and a meta that will make webcrawler's skin crawl. 3. Wait for the banner ad money to come in as people who are searching for pr0n hit your site.
I know of some people (friends of a friend) who do this as a second income..
*grin* they can't, they have to put a EULA on it somehow..
I think if Microsoft got into the Linux distro business it would be lawsuit heaven.. I mean, think about it.. tens of thousands of people have developed Open Source software.. and (by my estimates) 98% of them HATE Microsoft.
They do one thing wrong, they put a typo in the GPL, anything, and they will get sued. People will be reverse-engineering the binaries to make sure there weren't any alterations.. things like that.
Any any improvements that they make, even if they really ARE improvements (don't ask me, it technically COULD happen) would not be accepted by the Open Source development community - probably people would just start from scratch cloning it or make some changes and split off development from Microsoft.
In a sports metaphor - Microsoft distributing Linux would be the first time in about a decade they actually had to play a real game away from home.. and they just don't know how to do it anymore. They aren't going to give up the home field advantage - I would more expect them to develop their own, new OS completely from scratch (not basing it off windows at all, starting over completely) over picking up a Linux distribution.
Microsoft's Java parser freaks me out... open source, written in REAL java (not J--).. its like, you look at it, and you just keep going.. but there is a catch, right? It uses Internet Explorer somehow, right? DCOM? no? Well what the bloody hell sucks about it?? It is from Microsoft, it HAS to suck somehow.. my God, don't tell me they released something good.. I think that is one of the signs of the Apocolypse..
At least, that is what I thought while looking at it. =c)
Wow, that is totally on crack.. so what distinguishes the collection from 'every individual element inside the collection', which he would have rights to?
I need to move to a country where law is simpler. But damnit, then we'd have to still listen to international law.. mebbe that private moon base will have a few apartments up for rent soon..
It doesn't matter, if you don't enforce your license you pretty much relinquish it. They need to be corrected now.
By the way, changes made to software because it is 'internal use' do not have to be destributed by the GPL - but if you have access to the software in binary or source format you have rights with the source (if you have it in binary format, you have the right to get the source it was compiled from). This goes without it being internal beta or not. You cannot place a restriction on (for instance) your employees that they cannot redistribute the modified GPL program's source, or else you are actually in violation of the GPL. So the beta users should have the right to get the source, recompile it, or distribute it, which the license does not allow. Beta or not, the license is in violation of the GPL.
They think "Oh, we can read the source, so they can't erally be serious, they said they were joking.. meanwhile, they keep missing that one single, all important line of perl code in linux v2.2... bwaahahaha:)
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How about if you _both_ stop fighting in public? If either of truely represent the community, then you would know how bad this looks.
Grow up. Disliking someone is fine, but bitching about them in public is immature. I suggest you apoligize first to each other, then to the rest of us for the behavior of _both_ of you.
Open forums are not a place for revenge. Take this into the back alley of the next Linux Expo.
If "Joleen" Carmack was also attractive, yes, dream woman ;-)
But while Carmack is incredibly intelligent, I must admit I am not attracted to him.
try to think of something inspiring during time you spend together, and blame it on her =) "Oh I just got the best idea, you are my inspiration!"
;-)
worked for me
yup, until someone writes a
"Meet-Intelligent-Women-HOWTO"
;-)
*grin* not if it is an accident..
"..and, if I accidently get run over by someone in the Department of Sanitation, while crouched in the middle of the road picking up spare change I dropped because of a strong unexpected NW wind, I want to sue their arses"
Reboot the probe, and it will speed back up (they should be damn glad it didn't just crash!)
They found the entrance to the Hollow Earth! :)
None of my computers in school ever were solid. Shoot, comparing them to swiss cheese was being too nice. The difference is that they usually weren't networked. It wasn't until freshman year in high school I saw networked computers or a modem (ooh, 1200 baud, oooh appletalk on 56k wire...)
Even on these, people would hack all the games (some fellow figured out how to instantly get warp 20 once he went into 'reverse' in MacTrek, and how to get cloaking on Terran craft..), people would destroy the network, people would put viruses on the server.
I think client-server is better than having individual stations as far as security - but they better hire a sysadmin with a decent head (at my high school after I left, they hired someone into the position just because he was a friend of the principal's.. and he really really bit from what I understand, nothing works anymore at all. The computers are unusable)
hahah :) man I wish I could moderate this up..
I think Nintendo is innocent - I mean they are a lot nicer than Microsoft in this respect- the rare cards _do_ exist, while bugfree microsoft programs..
Let me just say I saw a friend of mine place a 8 of spades on a queen of hearts in windows solitaire once, and leave it at that.
what would it look like? A guy with a briefcase and a big tire treak on his face?
:)
Me. I'm still left. I'm cool, dude.
Because human setup and overconfigurability are UNIX traits. NT does everything for you and does many things poorly. So when an NT box gets hacked it is almost always a flaw in the Operating System level (Including IIS, which is now part of the OS) or in the default configuration.
Nothing is going to happen to apache in the default configuration. But if you get all stupid about configuring it you are opening the floodgates. For instance, using a closed-source CGI script and giving it stupid permissions.
Oh come on now, Win9x cannot even be installed without pain and suffering. the Win9x CD is not bootable, and the _only_ way to make a bootdisk is to have a working Win9x install. I have gone without Windows for weeks until I can find a working windows 98 SE machine (must have same version) and make a boot disk. Meanwhile, if I stick my new Redhat Lorax CD in, it autoplays on boot, bringing up a graphical install. Their graphical install is much, much nicer than the Windows 2000 install.
/tmp dir.
I have to drop to the command prompt in Win9x all the time to do things. The other day I had to do it to delete a corrupted 'super hidden' file (file that does not show up in explorer no matter what). Worst experience was downloading the DirectX7 SDK and having it fail 5 megs away from completion (it is 122 Megs, big over a 33.6)
The file was sitting there, 117 megs done and I couldn't get it. I had to go into the 'Temporary Internet Files' directory in Dos because windows wouldn't display it, and look for it inside the randomly named hidden, system directories in there.
God, if that happened with lynx I would just have to look at the
Linux will not have a truely good graphical shell until its users prefer that shell to a command prompt. And that will never happen, in all my time using mc I have NEVER said "damn, this is so much faster than just typing 'mv' or 'cp' or running a program". graphical shells are more friendly but trade speed for that friendliness.
Thats call compatibility, not usability, they already had a huge investment in training and a huge amount of data on punch cards, as well as programs written for those IBM machines.
Hehe, what do you think they are announcing at Comdex? A product?? Geesh..
Wouldn't it be hilarious if they went public before their product was disclosed?
"But would you really opt to run Linux in an x86 emulation mode? Surely running it on the native instruction set/processor, or under an emulation of say Alpha would be much better."
No, I would run it under the native instruction set. Transmeta has several compiler writers and of course linux to make a direct port very speedy.
"This could also make the idea of vmware obsolete, imagine being able to save/restore the machine state to special areas of disk/memory. You could cycle through operating systems rather than terminals using alt + F key."
With many operating systems you can do this already. Hardware and memory access are the only real problems.
method 2:
1. Get a www account on a server.
2. Upload a single page with about 500 XXX banners, popup windows and a meta that will make webcrawler's skin crawl.
3. Wait for the banner ad money to come in as people who are searching for pr0n hit your site.
I know of some people (friends of a friend) who do this as a second income..
plenty of video cards use Rambus - but none in the sub-$1000 price range
Wow, you know windows programming really isn't anything like unix programming at all.. it would be fun to see just how badly they could break POSIX*
First change - time() will return a double representing the number of days since Dec 31st 1899.
*grin* they can't, they have to put a EULA on it somehow..
:)
I think if Microsoft got into the Linux distro business it would be lawsuit heaven.. I mean, think about it.. tens of thousands of people have developed Open Source software.. and (by my estimates) 98% of them HATE Microsoft.
They do one thing wrong, they put a typo in the GPL, anything, and they will get sued. People will be reverse-engineering the binaries to make sure there weren't any alterations.. things like that.
Any any improvements that they make, even if they really ARE improvements (don't ask me, it technically COULD happen) would not be accepted by the Open Source development community - probably people would just start from scratch cloning it or make some changes and split off development from Microsoft.
In a sports metaphor - Microsoft distributing Linux would be the first time in about a decade they actually had to play a real game away from home.. and they just don't know how to do it anymore. They aren't going to give up the home field advantage - I would more expect them to develop their own, new OS completely from scratch (not basing it off windows at all, starting over completely) over picking up a Linux distribution.
But then again, I have been wrong all day
Microsoft's Java parser freaks me out... open source, written in REAL java (not J--).. its like, you look at it, and you just keep going.. but there is a catch, right? It uses Internet Explorer somehow, right? DCOM? no?
Well what the bloody hell sucks about it?? It is from Microsoft, it HAS to suck somehow.. my God, don't tell me they released something good.. I think that is one of the signs of the Apocolypse..
At least, that is what I thought while looking at it. =c)
Wow, that is totally on crack.. so what distinguishes the collection from 'every individual element inside the collection', which he would have rights to?
I need to move to a country where law is simpler. But damnit, then we'd have to still listen to international law.. mebbe that private moon base will have a few apartments up for rent soon..
_probably_ the GPL?
It doesn't matter, if you don't enforce your license you pretty much relinquish it. They need to be corrected now.
By the way, changes made to software because it is 'internal use' do not have to be destributed by the GPL - but if you have access to the software in binary or source format you have rights with the source (if you have it in binary format, you have the right to get the source it was compiled from). This goes without it being internal beta or not. You cannot place a restriction on (for instance) your employees that they cannot redistribute the modified GPL program's source, or else you are actually in violation of the GPL. So the beta users should have the right to get the source, recompile it, or distribute it, which the license does not allow. Beta or not, the license is in violation of the GPL.
They think "Oh, we can read the source, so they can't ... bwaahahaha :)
erally be serious, they said they were joking.. meanwhile, they keep missing that one
single, all important line of perl code in linux v2.2