Verifiedbyvisa which will add an extra layer of security by demanding an OTP to be generated with the smart card of the VISA card; making fraud virtually impossible unless the card reader & code has been used.
My mom plays WOW better when she smokes than when she is out of cigarettes...
I've noticed that a few times; the correlation could also be with the stress of being out with cigarettes, that I do not know; I don't smoke. I think cigarettes are powerfull; mentally and physically; not even considering it's proven risks and still being politically legal in every country on the world.
Maybe I take things more neutral & constructive instead of you?
There are documented cases where the camera's didn't work with law-enforcement around; or where criminality has found the solution with for example.. a hat.. that's isn't slippery-slope?
I've never told the ShotSpotter was a bad use of technology, but the regular CCTV surveillance is a bit over the top and often ineffective and yet they are keeping adding camera's. I wouldn't say no to more neighbour patrols where I live at, but there is sure not a need for cameras to be added on each corner of the street and there are a lot around this area that think similar. Comparing ShotSpotter technology with CCTV is also bogus; I was talking about adding (more) camera's at places where they aren't effective to thwart criminality. I've explained the difference between active and passive systems in a post earlier in this article.
My thoughts are based on "multiple what/if/then" scenarios, added the past to the mix and added technology to it, with possible, but not unreal dark consequences. I do not per se fear but do not trust either; based on evidence of history.
Take anything for granted which your government serves you and feel as safe as you like, because it's all for the greater you and only you.
was meant sarcastically with true shades of reality...
Stop acting like a child and don't take things (1) personally a/o (2) as granted.
I've never said "I am afraid of everything so it shouldn't be done". Now you are pulling fear with the topic; very soon we're going to end in 1942? Do mind, we might be from different parts of the world; what you accept, is maybe not taken for granted here; but yet again.. you only seem to care about the power of your insults.
As I told, I'm done, means I will no longer provide you troll food; it's a waste of time..
Get yourself something to relax because you need it.
Take anything for granted which your government serves you and feel as safe as you like, because it's all for the greater you and only you.
You obviously missed the entire point; because you are too hot headed stuck in your own topic; Try to read and understand instead of insulting and trolling; since the real point has been flying way above your head...
ps: I guess you are using these forums as your back yard, where your attitude is better than a question. First shoot then ask questions, right?
Makes me wonder why we actually have those active camera's in town, recording 24/7/365...
Some people come up with the but it's public excuse; does that mean we just have to blindly accept? To go anywhere but home, we have to cross that public turf; no other choice. Why should law enforcement have all -that- on tape? If I wanted to keep such log of myself, I'd already have my own twitter-tool logging my locations by GPS.
That's because the right hands do not exist.
Raises the question if such CCTV systems should exist in the first place, if there is no one right to control it.
I don't care people looking at me in public; I do care about camera's recording every move for 24/7.
False dichotomy. It is not an either/or proposition. The fact that you want to reduce it to that shows your ignorance and arrogance.
Or I want to create a statement, if criminals continue their actions, even in front of the camera; it does not work. Why does the general public needs to be recorded on tape in that case? For which particular reason? To be criminalized later, when possible?
No one is being watched 24/7, therefore you statement is false.
To put the dot on the i; "being watched 24/7 in public space".. that better? That camera which could be pointing at your door or window even.
Also, you ignore the fact that this system does not watch 24/7. It activates on the sound of a gun shot, which is most-likely an illegal act as most local governments have laws against discharging a weapon in public.
I didn't entirely ignore the fact this article is about ShotSpotter; the statement was about CCTV camera's in town. Those cameras are registering 24/7/365.
When you are in public, you have no expectation of privacy. Everyone and anyone can see what you are doing. From the security cameras at the mall to the cameras in the ATMs, to people with camera phones, to shotspotter cameras, if you are in public they have every legal right to record you. Let me guess, you believe that if someone films you breaking the law in public, they are invading your privacy, right? But, if they film a cop violating someone's rights, it is not violating anyone's privacy, right?
Again, I don't care for people watching me in public; I only care to be recorded by a dozen of camera's on every street corner. I never stated someone filming in public breaks my privacy; that's what you are making from it. I've only told, I will avoid any public TV camera's because I can. Did I say because they invade my privacy ? Nope.
You are a pathetic hypocrite and...
It's as public as for anyone else, doesn't mean the government should be watching every move one does in public space. Isn't accepting all that surveillance without thought, hypocrite? Soon you are going to tell wiretapping should be legal too because the phonelines are on public turf?
What -you- prefer should not be a standard for anyone else; just as my preference shouldn't be standard for anyone else. I'll never force someone to stop using a camera; I am rather complaining about the fact the government is installing active camera's over town with little or no real stop towards criminals? Forcing your preference (as only option), blindly accepting such is truely ignorant.
...you apparently think public spaces are you own private playground.
The place which we call "public" is the only place one can use to cross from one point to another. You are only seen where you are at that particular moment. With camera's you are recorded and can be seen on any given time of the day. Does that mean I just have to blindly accept whatever surveillance the government puts on its citizens is "right" ? I'd be a hypocrite if I did.
Some people like camera's more than others; If I'd wanted to be a camera-cow, I'd be on television. So why the hell do you think public spaces are my private playground, just because I don't like the overuse of surveillance by our governments because "they can" (technology-wise) ?
If I go out, in public, I don't need a cluster of cams, recording every movement through a city for 24/7.
Does that make me a murderer or a criminal? Not even the slightest.
Privacy is a lot more than having in-house secrets. It defines who one can be and evolve. Being watched 24/7 surely changes that entire area of evolution.
When a television crew is filming in the city, I mostly go out of the way; because I can. Are you also going to pull the "public" excuse, when I am maintaining my own privacy that moment?
Because in the UK, the home of the highest number of cameras per capita, the technology has not helped one bit.
All those cameras around the city are active cameras filming footage 24/7, ShotSpotter is a passive technology only activated when the sensor picks up a gunshot.
Those active cameras are mostly as deterrent against crime; making criminals uncomfortable doing their behavior on camera. If these would be real candid camera's, crime could drop although privacy concerns will rise. I guess there is no real solution for this; since the entire mess around surveillance is in the wrong hands to create confidence with the general public.
There are still "Medical Professionals", including doctors, thinking that getting blood in the eyes poses none of little risk for the contraction of HIV; and this aside from the third world. This happens in the high-developed countries.
Ambulanciers and doctors having the wrong thought of its infection vector causing dozens of extra victims with the HIV virus; only because of mis/insufficient information. Maybe aids-prevention should start with getting the right information at the right people whom should care...
Layers of programs, security, badly coded drivers and networking stuff. Blame both the platform and Adobe in this case.
Most of these Flash scripts are full of memory leaks pulling your browser down to a memory eating cpu loading program which uses even more memory than World of Warcraft in some cases. On the MAC and PC it's both the same problem. Dynamic websites with memory leaks and bad implementations of Ajax and much more.
Larger companies don't to care anymore because Moore's law does the job for them. I cannot even imagine why 2gb of memory is a requirement these days while I used to run OS/2 and other platforms on lower system requirements. It's as these companies don't care about optimizing their own code anymore; just produce and release; often without the appropriate needed testing.
In the DOS world we used to be very specific with what to load. There were memory managers like QEMM386, HIMEM, CACHE86 and others to get the most out of the system. The Windows world has become so complex that optimalization is merely an illusion. There used to be demo-parties dedicated in programming the best graphical capabilities in the smallest possible memory requirements/filesize. Why these software gigants can't do it is probably a matter of money.
Not to forget; Optimalization speeds up the Operating System and generally clears out a lot of bugs too. Maybe it's about time to get some memory-minimalization tools for Browsers too; to cut the air to those ever-sucking memory ghosts.. But how would the general consumption "market" be, if everyone found out we actually don't need all that horsepower, eating away our electricity by the hunderds of watts by starting to optimize at the core...
If Adobe would care to optimize their Flash, a lot of problems would already be solved for a lot of browsers. Same to Microsoft about their Windows kernels, which have improved over the years but still full of leaks. The jumps went too fast between Windows versions to be even possibly qualitative enough. I've only knew 3 real "stable" versions which were Windows 98SE, XP and NT2000; but only stable, almost at the end of each lifecycle.
I am not convinced in software based expert systems for life critical applications like such. There are standard questions to be asked, but there are also extra factors sometimes which should be taken into consideration; which a computer will sure not do in all cases.
These systems are still programs and limited by their initial input. A competent human decision is worth gold for such life critical infrastructure. If these accidents happen that much on a year, I'd rather think these expert systems are good for help-desk support but not for an emergency center.
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Verifiedbyvisa which will add an extra layer of security by demanding an OTP to be generated with the smart card of the VISA card; making fraud virtually impossible unless the card reader & code has been used.
Who needs poppers? If you can have a Wii instead!
This is clearly identity theft of Mr. Cluelessicus; prepare for black suits to come and get you.
This man is rich, he's known anywhere around the world.
You will probably not *BUY YOUR CELLULAR CREDITS NOW THROUGH YOGIBEAR* get worried too much by any *GET YOUR LEGS SHAVED FASTER!* intrusive ads.
Don't worry, you won't *GET VIAGRA CHEAP NOW!* be annoyed by it. *PLEASE WAIT FOR 10 SECONDS TO WATCH OUR AD BEFORE YOU CAN CONTINUE YOUR PHONECALL!*
Post a story when someone uses an iPod to break into a bank, then I'll be impressed!
possibly,
My mom plays WOW better when she smokes than when she is out of cigarettes ...
I've noticed that a few times; the correlation could also be with the stress of being out with cigarettes, that I do not know; I don't smoke.
I think cigarettes are powerfull; mentally and physically; not even considering it's proven risks and still being politically legal in every country on the world.
Just noticed the alternate thread here .. really constructive!
I think it's time to upgrade to v2.0 .. Dave!
If you are trying to imitate Dave, you'll have to do better, atleast he had decent speech routines...
Ever heard of the term Netiquette? You might learn something new there; broke those rules myself replying here, but sure worth mentioning once...
Maybe I take things more neutral & constructive instead of you?
There are documented cases where the camera's didn't work with law-enforcement around; or where criminality has found the solution with for example .. a hat .. that's isn't slippery-slope?
I've never told the ShotSpotter was a bad use of technology, but the regular CCTV surveillance is a bit over the top and often ineffective and yet they are keeping adding camera's. I wouldn't say no to more neighbour patrols where I live at, but there is sure not a need for cameras to be added on each corner of the street and there are a lot around this area that think similar. Comparing ShotSpotter technology with CCTV is also bogus; I was talking about adding (more) camera's at places where they aren't effective to thwart criminality. I've explained the difference between active and passive systems in a post earlier in this article.
My thoughts are based on "multiple what/if/then" scenarios, added the past to the mix and added technology to it, with possible, but not unreal dark consequences.
I do not per se fear but do not trust either; based on evidence of history.
was meant sarcastically with true shades of reality...
Stop acting like a child and don't take things (1) personally a/o (2) as granted.
I've never said "I am afraid of everything so it shouldn't be done". Now you are pulling fear with the topic; very soon we're going to end in 1942?
Do mind, we might be from different parts of the world; what you accept, is maybe not taken for granted here; but yet again.. you only seem to care about the power of your insults.
As I told, I'm done, means I will no longer provide you troll food; it's a waste of time..
.. he hooked up the chicken on Nicotine in the first place!
So, second hand smoke could make people dumber?
If so, they will possibly soon see a correlation between clubs, bars, cafe's, restaurants and IQ.
Get yourself something to relax because you need it.
Take anything for granted which your government serves you and feel as safe as you like, because it's all for the greater you and only you.
You obviously missed the entire point; because you are too hot headed stuck in your own topic; ...
Try to read and understand instead of insulting and trolling; since the real point has been flying way above your head
ps: I guess you are using these forums as your back yard, where your attitude is better than a question. First shoot then ask questions, right?
I'm done here...
Makes me wonder why we actually have those active camera's in town, recording 24/7/365...
Some people come up with the but it's public excuse; does that mean we just have to blindly accept? To go anywhere but home, we have to cross that public turf; no other choice. Why should law enforcement have all -that- on tape? If I wanted to keep such log of myself, I'd already have my own twitter-tool logging my locations by GPS.
Raises the question if such CCTV systems should exist in the first place, if there is no one right to control it.
I don't care people looking at me in public; I do care about camera's recording every move for 24/7.
Or I want to create a statement, if criminals continue their actions, even in front of the camera; it does not work. Why does the general public needs to be recorded on tape in that case? For which particular reason? To be criminalized later, when possible?
To put the dot on the i; "being watched 24/7 in public space" .. that better? That camera which could be pointing at your door or window even.
I didn't entirely ignore the fact this article is about ShotSpotter; the statement was about CCTV camera's in town. Those cameras are registering 24/7/365.
Again, I don't care for people watching me in public; I only care to be recorded by a dozen of camera's on every street corner. I never stated someone filming in public breaks my privacy; that's what you are making from it. I've only told, I will avoid any public TV camera's because I can. Did I say because they invade my privacy ? Nope.
It's as public as for anyone else, doesn't mean the government should be watching every move one does in public space. Isn't accepting all that surveillance without thought, hypocrite? Soon you are going to tell wiretapping should be legal too because the phonelines are on public turf?
What -you- prefer should not be a standard for anyone else; just as my preference shouldn't be standard for anyone else. I'll never force someone to stop using a camera; I am rather complaining about the fact the government is installing active camera's over town with little or no real stop towards criminals? Forcing your preference (as only option), blindly accepting such is truely ignorant.
The place which we call "public" is the only place one can use to cross from one point to another. You are only seen where you are at that particular moment. With camera's you are recorded and can be seen on any given time of the day. Does that mean I just have to blindly accept whatever surveillance the government puts on its citizens is "right" ? I'd be a hypocrite if I did.
Some people like camera's more than others; If I'd wanted to be a camera-cow, I'd be on television. So why the hell do you think public spaces are my private playground, just because I don't like the overuse of surveillance by our governments because "they can" (technology-wise) ?
I don't buy the "PUBLIC" crap.
If I go out, in public, I don't need a cluster of cams, recording every movement through a city for 24/7.
Does that make me a murderer or a criminal? Not even the slightest.
Privacy is a lot more than having in-house secrets. It defines who one can be and evolve. Being watched 24/7 surely changes that entire area of evolution.
When a television crew is filming in the city, I mostly go out of the way; because I can.
Are you also going to pull the "public" excuse, when I am maintaining my own privacy that moment?
All those cameras around the city are active cameras filming footage 24/7,
ShotSpotter is a passive technology only activated when the sensor picks up a gunshot.
Those active cameras are mostly as deterrent against crime; making criminals uncomfortable doing their behavior on camera. If these would be real candid camera's, crime could drop although privacy concerns will rise. I guess there is no real solution for this; since the entire mess around surveillance is in the wrong hands to create confidence with the general public.
There are still "Medical Professionals", including doctors, thinking that getting blood in the eyes poses none of little risk for the contraction of HIV; and this aside from the third world. This happens in the high-developed countries.
Ambulanciers and doctors having the wrong thought of its infection vector causing dozens of extra victims with the HIV virus; only because of mis/insufficient information. Maybe aids-prevention should start with getting the right information at the right people whom should care...
Layers of programs, security, badly coded drivers and networking stuff. Blame both the platform and Adobe in this case.
Most of these Flash scripts are full of memory leaks pulling your browser down to a memory eating cpu loading program which uses even more memory than World of Warcraft in some cases. On the MAC and PC it's both the same problem. Dynamic websites with memory leaks and bad implementations of Ajax and much more.
Larger companies don't to care anymore because Moore's law does the job for them. I cannot even imagine why 2gb of memory is a requirement these days while I used to run OS/2 and other platforms on lower system requirements. It's as these companies don't care about optimizing their own code anymore; just produce and release; often without the appropriate needed testing.
In the DOS world we used to be very specific with what to load. There were memory managers like QEMM386, HIMEM, CACHE86 and others to get the most out of the system. The Windows world has become so complex that optimalization is merely an illusion. There used to be demo-parties dedicated in programming the best graphical capabilities in the smallest possible memory requirements/filesize. Why these software gigants can't do it is probably a matter of money.
Not to forget; Optimalization speeds up the Operating System and generally clears out a lot of bugs too. Maybe it's about time to get some memory-minimalization tools for Browsers too; to cut the air to those ever-sucking memory ghosts.. But how would the general consumption "market" be, if everyone found out we actually don't need all that horsepower, eating away our electricity by the hunderds of watts by starting to optimize at the core...
If Adobe would care to optimize their Flash, a lot of problems would already be solved for a lot of browsers. Same to Microsoft about their Windows kernels, which have improved over the years but still full of leaks. The jumps went too fast between Windows versions to be even possibly qualitative enough. I've only knew 3 real "stable" versions which were Windows 98SE, XP and NT2000; but only stable, almost at the end of each lifecycle.
You can see the difference between a Supertasker and a Supertaker by comparing with the Undertaker because of Undertasking.
And I got bugspray, because it makes bugs pray!
Are you Microsoft in disguise, demanding all firstborn on the planet?
A grue did it ... Better get out of the house before it gets dark ... it most likely will eat you.
More plausible than cosmic radiation you say ? That's correct! Blame grue's!
I am not convinced in software based expert systems for life critical applications like such.
There are standard questions to be asked, but there are also extra factors sometimes which should be taken into consideration; which a computer will sure not do in all cases.
These systems are still programs and limited by their initial input. A competent human decision is worth gold for such life critical infrastructure.
If these accidents happen that much on a year, I'd rather think these expert systems are good for help-desk support but not for an emergency center.
aww, I was expecting clustered monkeys (no, I was not even mentioning beo in it) ...
That's good, so we earn a bit of profits after all..