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DIY 80GB iPod Touch

An anonymous reader writes "Having recently acquired an iPod Touch, DeviceGuru blogger Rick Lehrbaum soon found himself with an 80GB iPod paperweight knocking around and collecting dust. Then it hit him: why not use a Pogoplug as an iPod server, effectively filling his nifty new iPod Touch with 80GB of music whenever he has WiFi access? The how-to article at DeviceGuru.com explains how a Pogoplug and iPod Touch combined with free web services at pogoplug.com combine to form the 'PogoPod System.' It also introduces the Pogoplug's new UPnP support, and briefly reviews a couple of UPnP media-rendering iPhone and iPod Touch apps."

110 comments

  1. Plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can some one please shitcan this plugoplug article?

    1. Re:Plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The /. editors could just glance at the page before posting...

    2. Re:Plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a link if you'd like to buy several Pogoplugs IMMEDIATELY.

      Search tags: music ipod fulfillment great awesome usb external drive share ethernet network wireless

    3. Re:Plug by Jurily · · Score: 1

      No, that would mean the headline is related to the summary.

    4. Re:Plug by underqualified · · Score: 0

      slow news day?

    5. Re:Plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really. I just checked out the Pogoplug site and it's nothing more than a USB router that they are trying to sell for $130 USD. My cheapo DSL modem/router supports USB devices to be shared across the LAN, WAN or internet. Even if your router doesn't, you could just setup a simple HTTP or FTP server, or run Opera Unite to accomplish the same thing for free.

      Considering that you can pick up a 1TB USB drive for almost half the cost as this Pogoplug piece of crap, I can't see how this article is anything but blatant marketing.

    6. Re:Plug by ImYourVirus · · Score: 2, Informative

      You forgot to mention that if you want to access the drive *outside* of your lan, its either a yearly or monthly rate of like 20 or 30 dollars a month. And you have to use their service to access the configuration of the device.

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    7. Re:Plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, shut up! That's serious hacking going on there!

      Man, DeviceGuru are scary good hackers.

    8. Re:Plug by ottothecow · · Score: 3, Insightful
      So...you buy a $130 device and pay a few hundred a year (to use outside your home)...to connect your old few hundred dollar device to your new few hundred dollar device?

      And all it gets you is 16 more GB than the biggest version of the new few hundred dollar device? Only when it has internet access? And this genius gets on the front page?

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    9. Re:Plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quick! To the geohot mobile!

    10. Re:Plug by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You might be right. If the thing was a "paperweight" like TFA claims, and now it works there must be some kind of magic going on. Have monster started selling unobtanium tipped USB cables with philosphers' stone insulation?

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    11. Re:Plug by ak3ldama · · Score: 1

      Quite funny: A post on their developer forum describing how to effectively disable their features and then allow you to do whatever you want with the device. Does that shitcan it enough for you?

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    12. Re:Plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not even an Ipod Touch. It's some other Ipod. Touches come in 8, 16 and 32gig... and they are already wifi enabled ?????

    13. Re:Plug by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1

      Hey, give him a break. I'm sure he had to pay Commander Taco a lot of money to make it to the front page.

  2. Why? by Fayn · · Score: 1

    Because we can.

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    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been able to do this since 2005 using an HP iPaq with TCPMP, Windows Mobile 2003 (I know it sucks, but it works), and a Samba fileshare.

      Right now I have a 1TB MP3 player that plays almost all videos as well, with a bigger screen. That and I don't need some hokey external service.

  3. So let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article discusses... connecting an iPod to a thing that supports connecting iPods to it?
    In other words... it's *not* about making an 80gb iPod touch?

    In other news: Man listens to FM radio channel using FM Radio!

    1. Re:So let me get this straight... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No shit. I was all ready for some hacking goodness, not some hacky shit.

      I usually berate people who say it, but this is some new kind of low for this place.

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    2. Re:So let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > In other news: Man listens to FM radio channel using FM Radio!

      Correction: In other news: Man listens to FM radio channel using FM Radio

    3. Re:So let me get this straight... by the_humeister · · Score: 1

      OTOH, the Pogoplug looks like a nice, cheap device to mess around with an ARM-based device, cheaper than an iPod Touch or iPad.

    4. Re:So let me get this straight... by MartinSchou · · Score: 1

      In other news: Man listens to FM radio channel using FM Radio!

      Sure, but it's using the Apple iFM iP*d/iPhone attachment!

    5. Re:So let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could just buy a Kuro-Box though, and put the hard drive *inside*.

    6. Re:So let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OTOH, the Pogoplug looks like a nice, cheap device to mess around with an ARM-based device, cheaper than an iPod Touch or iPad.

      The pogoplug requires an annual fee, and them to have access to your files and passwords. Not that they'd ever use that info, oh no. They promised!

    7. Re:So let me get this straight... by the_humeister · · Score: 1

      Kuro Box is more expensive. I like the Sheeva plug, I'm not usre if it's made anymore.

    8. Re:So let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

    9. Re:So let me get this straight... by moonbender · · Score: 1

      It is, and they've made a new and improved version called the GuruPlug with pretty awesome connectivity.

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    10. Re:So let me get this straight... by obarthelemy · · Score: 4, Informative

      The basic one is still made:
      http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=5 Cheap, USB+Ethernet

      Updated version are coming RealSoonNow, including one with HDMI
      http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=11 there's a version with eSATA
      http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-33-guruplug-display.aspx

      And Marvell announced a v.3 at CES last Jan, no real product announced yet.

      All of those support Debian, Ubuntu is on the way out since the new Ubuntu requires some instruction set extension that are not available on the old plugs.

      There's a very active community at http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php

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    11. Re:So let me get this straight... by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      You missed the effectively part! That's the most important part!

      Next up: Man makes SUV effectively 1000 mpg by rolling downhill!

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    12. Re:So let me get this straight... by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or you could just buy a Sheevaplug and save yourself the monthly fee for using the crap being pedaled in this "hack". Or if you really wanted to be a cheapskate just pick up a SFF PC for a little of nothing, since all it is gonna do is serve files a 733MHz will do just fine, slap Linux and a decent sized HDD in and you're good to go.

      Seriously, does nobody read these things before they get posted anymore? I was hopped up expecting some cool hack, not some cheap ass ad for an overpriced POS. Note-plugging something into a USB port is NOT a hack! Hell if we are gonna start calling crap like this "DIY" then my 67 year old dad with his 14 USB ports must be like the king of the DIY hackers! Now if I can just teach him how to actually do two things on a PC at once he'll rule the world! Muh ha ha ha ha!

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    13. Re:So let me get this straight... by RabidMoose · · Score: 1

      In other news: Man listens to FM radio channel using FM Radio!

      Anymore, somebody actually listening to FM radio is news.

  4. How convenient. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The very day that Apple announces that only their newest phones will support multitasking why here we have on /. an article pimping how having an otherwise useless iDevice is a good thing. I guess we know what folks are supposed to do with their old iPhones now.

    Shame.

    This place died long ago. I miss it.

    I won't mourn it though.

    1. Re:How convenient. by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      Indeed. I was going to say that maybe they're just scraping the barrel for the obligitary daily Apple story, but we already have the Iphone story as you note, and there's the Ipad story. I guess now we get daily stories for each of Apple products.

      Imagine, the Slashdot headlines of 2015:

      * Boring DIY hacks for your old iPad.
      * Blog spots Apple ordering new parts, rumours of revolutionary magical new device that will change your life!
      * Announcement of a pre-announcement that Apple will soon announce a minor update to the iPod.
      * Whole new version of Ubuntu, so let's cover something else for a change.
      * Iphone to get multitasking, at last.
      * Apple blocks non-approved food items from being stored in the iFridge.

  5. What's the point? by Elshar · · Score: 1

    I mean, isn't the whole point of having an iPod or whatever so you can listen to music wherever you are? I mean, at that point you could just use pandora or any media server (Mediatomb, playon, tversity, etc, etc), or any of the myriad online streaming radio stations.

    Sure, this is cool. But not it's not like the guy hacked a 80GB SSD drive into an old iPod.

    1. Re:What's the point? by stms · · Score: 0

      Or you could use simplify media and you listen to music streamed from your computer over 3-G.

  6. Nice commercial review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just what i wanted when i visited /.

  7. Guy uses device as intended by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guy plugs a USB harddrive into a retail convertor box for internet use, uses it over internet using provided application. Video at 11.

  8. Title correction: by wolrahnaes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "DIY installing an app on an iPod Touch"

    The guy's just plugging an external hard drive in to a minimalist Linux system (the early review versions are clearly SheevaPlug units with a sticker attached and some custom software) and accessing it from an iPod Touch. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo.

    The post title implies something actually interesting like a way to hack more than the X GB of storage space Apple currently offers on to the iPod Touch platform, not "here's how to access a UPnP share from a WiFi connected handheld.

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    1. Re:Title correction: by Ambvai · · Score: 1

      Actually, my reading of the DIY title took it to an even further extreme-- building an iPod Touch from parts available on the market for significantly less...

    2. Re:Title correction: by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      The saddest part maybe is that it was an iPod Classic, not even a Touch version, which is simply used as external USB hard drive.

    3. Re:Title correction: by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Actually, my reading of the DIY title took it to an even further extreme-- building an iPod Touch from parts available on the market for significantly less...

      A similar thought was what made me click in, too.

    4. Re:Title correction: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other phones have had this for a long time. A few years ago I used to have a Nokia N93i and it had UPnP. I used it a few times to transfer music when I couldn't find a USB cable.

    5. Re:Title correction: by Sancho · · Score: 1

      No, he USED a classic to make an "80GB Touch."[1] Pogoplug+Classic * iPod Touch+PogoApp.

      [1] As long as he stays within the range of his wifi network. Otherwise it reverts back to a 16GB Touch (or whatever, I didn't pay that much attention to the article.)

  9. wow that wasn't misleading at all by grapeape · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Where's the hack? Reads more like a commercial to me.

    1. Re:wow that wasn't misleading at all by Barny · · Score: 1

      It is, and a bad one, with Telexy Network Commander I can VPN from my mobile phone via unlimited data plan back to my home network and mount a windows network share and then stream my music over that.

      So 6.6TB mobile music device, please advertise bigger :P

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    2. Re:wow that wasn't misleading at all by JohnBailey · · Score: 1

      Where's the hack? Reads more like a commercial to me.

      It's an iHack. Like a hack, but better more polished and easy for ordinary people to do.
      It's an innovative game changing method for safely hacking Apple's products in a magical way that will change the way we hack for ever.

      What.. You expected wires and soldering irons and unofficial code and stuff? Eww.. He used a non Apple product.. What more do you want.
      Do you know how hard it is to open an iProduct? It could get SCRATCHED!!!!

      And you know how the master gets when people try to do stuff they are not allo...(BZZZT)..Want to do.

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  10. Why does it exist? by nikomo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Worthless. Please tell me there was some sort of an error and that's why this is here.

  11. white text on black by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do people still do this? Is it to save electricity? My eyes started burning and I couldn't finish the article, but in this case that was a good thing.

  12. Pogoplug is not opensource! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hi, my name is Feverdream and I like to hack small devices to make them easier to use by the blind - like myself - since they are often cheaper than full fledged computer systems that have parts we non-sighted don't usually need or use. I recently forced the pogoplug guys to release some GPL code they tried to hide from the community; You can now see part of the the xce module source on the website, but we need your help getting the rest!

    They still lock the system down, and the Adobe Apollo based server on the device that they use for their service does things under the hood that would make RMS blush. They did not even want to release the xce module source despite the fact that it is GPL, and I had to fight with them to release the part they did.. problem is its not the source that they released on the device, and they wont give that out. You can tell by comparing the timestamps in the tarball they released that the files were edited.

    Not to mention, thy lock you out of updating the kernel... and that makes it very hard to add accessibility for the blind or otherwise disabled since this is not activated by default.

    We need your help. Boycott them,. get the message out they they violate not only the terms of the GPL by refusing to release unmodified or edited source of the code they have already released to the public, but the spirit of it. Get the rest of the data on the http://www.plugapps.com/ forums!

    1. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hey there.

      Two things:

      1st) Can you please not post this as AC? I believe it's important enough as to use a username
      2nd) Have you contacted the FSF / gpl-violations.org? You really should.

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    2. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by Velorium · · Score: 1

      Given he gave a handle of Feverdream, I'm going to assume he may not have a /. account.

    3. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not as AC? Does a username make his words magically more valid?

    4. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by the_humeister · · Score: 1

      No, but it makes the words magically more visible to people who view this site at a higher threshold than '0' or otherwise block ACs.

    5. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried to create an account, but it wont send me my email to activate it and so I cant log into it.

    6. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by lucidfeverdream · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ok, got an account now. Happy? I did tell gpl-v about this, and that is what got them to release the partial source... but its not everything.

    7. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by Zerth · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pogoplug is not opensource!

      So give Pogo the finger and get a Sheevaplug. Exact same hardware, different plastic shell.

      Or even better: get a Guruplug, the latest revision that comes with wireless, Gigabit ethernet, and eSATA.

    8. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by lucidfeverdream · · Score: 3, Informative

      I am not sure if I'm allowed to double post this, and I do not want to break the rules here now that I'm logged in now, but anyway yes I'm real, this is legit, and you can find more data here: http://plugapps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=43 where I have a thread going about improving compatibility that has kind of morphed into other topics around this, including the threats we have gotten for simply requesting gpl source code.

    9. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 3, Informative

      The bastards. Ok, two things:

      1st: Don't buy that kind of devices. Get some generic ARM-based box off china. It's what this devices use anyway. You can find some nice 600mhz ARM + 128MB of RAM all-in-one boards that come with an SDK and all of the source plus many example apps for 30 dollars (FOB Shenzhen, China). There are even full embedded systems (with very similar specs) complete with case, power supply, remote, wifi card, etc. Ready to plug and get hacking for under 60 dollars (Again, price is FOB Shenzhen). Lots of fun at a great price. You can find retailers for all of this devices in most places around the world.

      Another great hacking tool are the atom-based boards. There are all in one mini-atx mobos with dual core Atom processors (1.6ghz) for 80 dollars. Try the Intel or Foxconn models, they are very powerful and inexpensive.

      If you are still mad about the GPL violators, try mailing Richard at rms@gnu.org, he reads and answers every mail, and he'll surely be more than glad to help you out and speak on your behalf, or direct you to the right person.

      BTW: The account thing wasn't just to be a smartass. Many people just disregards most ACs posts, and it's impossible to keep in touch or get replies from ACs anyway. Also, this place has some very very elaborate trolls, you never, ever know ;)

      Happy Hacking!

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    10. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by lucidfeverdream · · Score: 1

      I promise I'm not a troll.. ... than again, I'm sure a troll would say exactly that. :(

    11. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's their prerogative.

    12. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by mirix · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can find some nice 600mhz ARM + 128MB of RAM all-in-one boards that come with an SDK and all of the source plus many example apps for 30 dollars (FOB Shenzhen, China). There are even full embedded systems (with very similar specs) complete with case, power supply, remote, wifi card, etc. Ready to plug and get hacking for under 60 dollars (Again, price is FOB Shenzhen). Lots of fun at a great price. You can find retailers for all of this devices in most places around the world.

      Hi, can you post some links to someone who retails these devices? sounds interesting.

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    13. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by adolf · · Score: 1

      Yes.

      It enables me to see, with a fair amount of certainty, which replies in the thread actually belong to the original poster.

    14. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by the_humeister · · Score: 1

      Links? I'd like to get my hands on an ARM system for $60!

    15. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by ErikZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, I'll just hop on www.china.com and order that stuff!

      Could you at least give us a starting point? Something that covers a little less area than "Somewhere in China"?

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    16. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      As I said, that's FOB China. You have to add import costs to that.

      I Don't know what retailers might have that hardware in the US. I don't live in the US, and I don't buy from retailers, I import directly.

      But google for it, this devices are out there

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    17. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 2, Informative

      Again, I have no idea. I import them directly from China, and I'm not in the US, so I don't know what retailers you can find there.

      But let me tell you, there are dozens of places in Shenzhen that produce this kind of boards. All of those prices are FOB China. Google for it, I'm sure there are importers and retailers of this stuff in the US. Most DVR systems are based on this board, specially the cheapest ones. Some AVTech systems that retail for 200 dollars are based on exactly the same boards I buy for 30. Look around, you'll find them

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    18. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by qoncept · · Score: 1

      I'm interested in this too, but I don't even know what to google. What exactly am I looking for? What are these things called? Thanks!

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    19. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by blackest_k · · Score: 1
    20. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are many. Again, I buy directly from China, from various suppliers in Shenzhen, and I live in Argentina, so I have no bloody idea of where you can get them in the states.

      In my experience, retailers usually don't sell this development boards, and sell instead boxes based on them. Whenever you find a retailer that does bring in that product, the price will be outrageous. My tip: You'll find suppliers in China that'll sell you as few as 50 units. Off course, if you just want 1 or 2, you can get them easily as test boards. You'll have to stay up late (a few years ago, they used to work during the night and you could just call them during the day, now they work during the day and we have to stay up at night to call them), find the board you want and who makes it in China (75% of the time somewhere in Guangdong), call them, say you represent a company doing whatever and that you were planning on buying a few hundred items every month, talk with them a few times, get a price list, and then request a small quantity (1-3) for evaluation purposes. They'll sell it at you for around 15-20% more than the wholesale price they sent you earlier, and you can get it cheaply into the country (at least that's true in Argentina and Brasil) as an evaluation item.

      There are many sites that list this things and who produces them.

      Here's an example, but there are many directories like this one:

      http://www.made-in-china.com/productdirectory.do?subaction=hunt&style=b&mode=and&code=0&comProvince=nolimit&order=0&word=ARM+board

      Be prepared for:

        - Very, very bad Engrish. Be patient.
        - Salesman that are desperate to find an excuse to leave the country, specially women, and they'll try to talk you into setting up a meeting that requires them travelling overseas (this really really happens all the time, go with the flow and get what you want)
        - Salesman that have no idea of what they are selling. Specs are scarce, and so are SDKs. They'll not send you anything. Their policy is "buy it and see what it does".
        - They never say "no". If you request something that they can't provide or don't want to provide, they just say 'yes, yes' and delay and avoid doing it.
        - When they don't understand you, they'll also go "yes, yes"

      If you want to test this boards before you bring them, you can try buying some of the products that use them. There are some cheap surveillance apps (4 Channel DVRs) that use 650 mhz ARM processors, and come with Ethernet and 4 video inputs (SAA 7134). You can buy them anywhere for around $60 in China, so assume twice as much from any security wholesaler in the states.

      Another thing I recommend, are this babies:

      http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/Motherboards/socket.aspx?socket_id=en-us0000010&socket_name=Atom+CPU+onboard

      There are also some great fanless mobos from Intel, that come with embedded Atom processors (The single core 200 series (230,270, etc), and the 300/500 series that are dual core (330/510)).

      Both of them have 2 threads per core, so GNU/Linux will register 4 fucking penguins! :)

      This mobos retail for way under 100. The Foxconn mobos are cheaper, but have the same Intel cheaps. You can find the fanless Atom 270 models under $80.

      Hope this helps.

    21. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      Damn! I don't know why that got posted as AC, I didn't click on post anonymously. Anyway, that was me :)

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  13. iPod Touch + MPD + WiFi by SlashdotOgre · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, the "article" is a bit of disappointment, however I've been in the same situation and here is how I approach the problem (way more music then will fit on my 8GB touch or smartphone): I have a linux server (Dell Studio Hybrid running Gentoo) that I always leave on which has a copy of my music repository. On it I run Music Player Daemon (MPD) with Icecast as one of the outputs. I connect to MPD via a simple web client (there are several: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients) from my touch, build my playlist, then point Safari to my Icecast server's IP/port which opens the media player and I can listen to MPD anywhere I have WiFi. I'm not sure what the minimum bandwidth required is, but even my smartphones (previously Samsung Saga on WM 6.1, now Droid Eris running 2.1) work with this system. For the record I used TCPMP on WM 6.1 (Windows Media Player mobile worked too, but that app is horrible) and now use I use A Online Radio for the Droid (oddly enough, the built in media player on Android doesn't do streams and it's touch to find an Android streaming client that let's you specify any address/port you want).

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    1. Re:iPod Touch + MPD + WiFi by wintermute000 · · Score: 1

      sounds horribly complicated
      have you tried ampache? works great as a drop in solution if you have a working LAMP stack (sounds like you do).
      Though not sure how well it would work on a phone given its a full web-ui.

      to be honest you'll prob get nicer interface/functionality running itunes in a VM and then pointing itunes on your touch/iphone to it, I know people who swear by this functionality (but they also live in unlimited 3G data places lol). Not sure about the NAT/firewall port specifics but I'm sure the info is easily available.

      Personally I just carry my ipod 80g in my pocket!!!!!! Since I rebuilt my server I didn't bother with ampache. (didn't help that at work my domain - which has my name in it lol - came up in the top 20 count for bandwidth due to my 8 hours a day of mp3 streaming lol (this in a 2000+ end user point network), thankfully guess who does the reports like that).

    2. Re:iPod Touch + MPD + WiFi by RadioBrain · · Score: 1

      try out the app MPoD from the app store. it claims to have the ability to stream from mpd's icecast output. I havent tried it but it sounds a lot less complicated that doing all that.

    3. Re:iPod Touch + MPD + WiFi by Beacon11 · · Score: 1

      This is actually a really good idea. I have an Ampache server set up on a plug computer (not pogo plug, but one of the original Marvell ones), and there is an Ampache application for the iPhone and iPod named iAmpache. It works pretty well, but is still being improved. It bet it'll be a much better media interface than what he's got going now!

    4. Re:iPod Touch + MPD + WiFi by wintermute000 · · Score: 1

      yeah i'll have to check it out. when I finally cave and get an iphone lol.
      the itunes to iphone seamless library interface is the main plus, if iampache can come close its a winner since my linux server is far too pitiful for a VM for itunes (its an old thinkpad).

    5. Re:iPod Touch + MPD + WiFi by Beacon11 · · Score: 1

      Haha, I know what you mean-- while I set up the Ampache server (it was for my own benefit; I use it via a web browser), I don't actually own an iPhone or iPod, so I tested it on my brother's. I'm resisting!

  14. Do it without the $130 device by SilverJets · · Score: 3, Interesting

    www.orb.com

    1. Re:Do it without the $130 device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do I need a service to stream music to my iPod?

    2. Re:Do it without the $130 device by welcher · · Score: 1

      because your ipod only has 8gb of memory.

    3. Re:Do it without the $130 device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>Why do I need a service to stream music to my iPod? Orb is not a service. It's a free piece of software that does conversion of music, videos, etc in realtime. You run the software on you main PC. Let's say you have .avi and you want to watch it through your phone that only has flash (or your Wii or something) it converts in realtime. You can access your stuff from anywhere and pretty much any device. You can set up an free orb.com account but it basically just acts like dyndns and offers no services. This is just an easy way to access your computer if you don't know you IP or it changes. iPod app costs $9.99, but otherwise it is totally free. Your PC does all the work there is no service.

    4. Re:Do it without the $130 device by Stavr0 · · Score: 1

      or Wunderradio + a docking station == Logitech Squeezebox.

  15. UN-Plug the Plug... by sjs132 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ok, because this is /. and everyone will chime in, I figured better to try and make the best out of a bad submission... In Soviet Russia, the PogoPlug, PLUGS YOU!

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    1. Re:UN-Plug the Plug... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh, where's that rimshot when you need one.

    2. Re:UN-Plug the Plug... by CrashandDie · · Score: 1
  16. Uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when is 129 dollars "inexpensive"?

  17. ipod touch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The screen shots look more like an ipod video, not an ipod touch.

  18. 80 gig? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The largest Touch is 64 gig?

    1. Re:80 gig? by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      Yes, apparently it is; when I bought mine about 8 months ago it came in 8GB, 16GB and 32GB flavours; now it comes in 8GB, 32GB and 64GB flavours. Sucks a little, the 32GB one is now only about £20 more than I paid for the 16GB one. Ain't tech great?

  19. Re:Slashvertisement by Rantastic · · Score: 1

    This is what the little "-" button is for, people. Lets subtract this crap until it goes negative.

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  20. Wow, this has got nothing on my 1.5TB PDA by CalcProgrammer1 · · Score: 1

    Lame, 5 years ago I had an 80GB Windows Mobile PDA, 2 years ago I DIY upgraded it to a 1.5TB Windows Mobile PDA and I have 160GB of FLAC audio wherever I go... ...if I have WiFi, seeing as the 1.5TB is on my server. This is dumb, you can access a server with a client device, that doesn't mean the client has all the features of the server, it means that it can access them via a connection (and if you try to use your WiFi anywhere outside of your LAN, most likely it will be too slow to utilize the 80GB, you probably couldn't even stream music with it, let alone video or copy files.

  21. Cue lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3... 2... 1... Cue Apple lawsuit

  22. not impressed by corbettw · · Score: 1

    Post a story when someone uses an iPod to prevent evil hackers from breaking into a bank, then I'll be impressed.

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  23. Slow WiFi by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I imagine this isn't as useful when your workplace's new 802.11n WiFi throttles access to the Internet to a paltry 20 KB/s (ssh SOCKS proxy-tunnel to LAN brings it up only to 90 KB/s after first day). What I need is a stealth waterproof solar-powered WiFi repeater to bring the fast food restaurant's WiFi from across the street into the building.

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    1. Re:Slow WiFi by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      What I need is a stealth waterproof solar-powered WiFi repeater

      I had one, but thanks to its stealth mode, I can't find it anymore :-(

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  24. Multiple songs? by sootman · · Score: 1

    As far as I can tell you still can't listen to more than one song at a time--you've still got to navigate, click on a song, navigate more, click on another, etc. So you can't, say, easily listen to a whole album. (Correct me if I'm wrong but the two UPnP apps look very limited.) If that's all you're going to do, you may as well save your money and use this (share through Apache) or this (install a custom (but open-source) service.)

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    1. Re:Multiple songs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What might be interesting would be writing an app that uses dynamic DNS to be able to connect to the music stream, then a SSL connection to control what is playing. All it would take is a basic Web server and some backend perl or php scripting to control what songs are being streamed.

      Of course, one can get a SheevaPlug which has a lot more development abilities than the device mentioned and get this working. To boot, if one knows what they are doing, they could get this working with not just the iPhone, but Android and other devices.

  25. Can use standard web server by m85476585 · · Score: 1

    This can be done with a standard web server. Simply set up a web server that makes all your music available on your network, then point your iPod Touch to it. Compatible music files will play in "Quicktime".

    Someone even put up instructions about it. http://www.pixelcity.com/iphone-streaming-music/

  26. To stretch the scope ... by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    Post a story when someone uses an iPod to break into a bank, then I'll be impressed!

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  27. From the well-thats-not-very-exciting dept. by NoMaster · · Score: 2, Funny
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    1. Re:From the well-thats-not-very-exciting dept. by treeves · · Score: 1

      Well-played, sir.

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  28. Thanks, Slashdot! by billsayswow · · Score: 1

    Now that I've been given the option to disable the one surprisingly unobtrusive advert on your page (which I kept on anyways), all I have to put up with for advertising is the increasing amount of plug-stories! Thanks!

  29. This is news for nerds? by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

    "Having recently acquired an iPod Touch, DeviceGuru blogger Rick Lehrbaum soon found himself with an 80GB iPod paperweight knocking around and collecting dust. Then it hit him: Why not earn some cash by getting a lame article published on /.!"

  30. OR by Manic+Pan!c · · Score: 1

    You can use a standard external hard drive and a home router with network store support then VPN into your home network. You can use Pandora You can use Grooveshark You can use 1 million other free music streaming services available. For fair disclosure, I don't own an iPod, iPad, or any other iShit and I don't purport to know exactly how they work but I would think any of those options previously mentioned would be better than this ad masquerading as a story.

  31. Simplify Media by OnlyJedi · · Score: 1

    There's already an app that does the same thing with your (Windows/Mac/Linux) PC called Simplify Media that this seems to. Essentially, it scans your music directory (or iTunes/Rhythmbox library if you want) on each computer the client runs, and lets you share them (directly through iTunes/Rhythmbox's own shared library front-end) on any other computer the client runs on. It also lets you add up to 30 "friends" to share with as well. Photos can also be shared (using iPhoto's events/faces/locations features if you run on a Mac).
    Best thing of all is the price. Pogoplug requires a proprietary $129 hardware device, but the iPhone app, if I read correctly, is free. Simplify requires a computer (which you probably already have), and a free client. The iPhone app costs about $6 ($3 when it first came out). Total cost: $129 for Pogoplug, $3 for SM if yo
    Sadly, I just read that as of two weeks ago they stopped selling the app and allowing new users to sign up. The service still works as of now, and they promise something new in the pipeline. I guess we'll see what comes of this.

  32. Are you kidding me? by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

    Didn't even read the article. Simplify Media has been doing this for years. Many of us (here) with iPod Touches/iPhones know how to stream music locally. This is an obvious advertisement.

    1. Re:Are you kidding me? by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

      Sorry; forgot to mention that you can listen to your music ANYWHERE with Simplify or other custom solutions.

  33. STOP REPLYING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    STOP REPLYING - the best way to let slashdot know that this hardly is "news".

  34. Never link your website to Twitter! by jackpot777 · · Score: 1

    The Pogoplug website has a page of the latest tweets featuring their name. The latest flood of tweets are people linking to the story. They don't seem to be linking to DeviceGuru, though. They're linking here. If you REALLY want to tell people how bad it is, and have it display on their website, Twitter is your friend... (just sayin')

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  35. Pogoplug ad, nothing to see here, lets move on... by PalmKiller · · Score: 1

    Its a $130 device that you plug a usb drive into to have internet access to it. Not really hacking...now if the guy bought a cheap wireless router, ran openwrt on it and hooked this to usb drive, then it would be cool. It would be even cooler if he were to get a wireless router that he had to hack to get usb ports on in the first place instead of using one that was designed with usb device connection capability, but either one would be much cooler than this crap.

  36. Re:Pogoplug ad, nothing to see here, lets move on. by LeadSongDog · · Score: 1

    Somebody mod parent up, please! Extra cool points for making that router provide RAID functionality, solving the Dynamic DNS use case, and (why not?) adding a print server while at it.

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