That none of the people responsible for the national security infrastructure of the military will ever be held accountable for creating a situation where such a low-ranking soldier would have enough access that he could see how rotten to the core our country is and feel compelled to assume the role of whistle-blower.
I'm also sorry that so many people think what he did warrants some sort of punishment, letting all the hoards of douchebags off the hook for their responsibilities, all the way up to, and including the President.
I'm sorry the cowardly US media has ignored the international criminal activities exposed by the leak, and continued leaks, and that people are too deluded with nationalism and patriotism to even question for a moment the false authority and hubris our government is obviously guilty of, not to mention the sheer unconstitutionality of it all.
But mostly I'm sorry that they drugged Manning up and tortured him for a protracted period for the specific goal of getting him to apologize publicly. It's disgusting, and yet another example of the rampant corruption that this nation is now entirely based on.
Given notice, and been escorted out, despite having been practically loved by the entire department.
Given notice, been asked to stay two months, stayed, and regretted it because of the unreasonable work load added, and the stress involved, with no real compensation.
Just outright quit and walked-out, because the company had a rep for escorting people out that gave notice, so screw them, I needed two months off just to recover from having worked for them for two years anyway.
Didn't give notice, but took another full-time job in another industry entirely, without telling either employer, and it worked out awesome despite the stress, because the first employer went into Chapter 11 not a month later, and when they did, EVERYBODY just quit, rendering staying mote.
Started my own company, gave notice, was asked to stay longer, asked for some incentive to stay the period they requested (4 months), they refused to negotiate at all, I offered 4 weeks instead, and was locked-out without notice the very next day. Which only bothered me because of the commute that day to a non-existent job, which turned out really cool because I picked-up a new client in the same complex as I sat in a coffee shop there and overheard some guys talking about needing help NOW and not knowing where to turn.
One job I had for 6 months I quit over the phone after a 4 day cooling off period after the employer attempted to get me to sign a document assuming responsibility for a criminal incident that happened at a college campus facility my only involvement with was to daily pick up paperwork. They actually fabricated documents to make it look like I was the on-duty supervisor there, and when I went out in the car and produced MY copies of MY daily paperwork, which I kept, which they'd forgot they gave me permission to have, they backed-down. At that point, though, I knew I was dealing with a company that was basically a criminal organization - oddly enough they were a bay area security company !
In every situation I was genuinely nice (with an effort), despite often wanting to cuss. But I've been working since I was 15, and had a lot of time to watch and listen.
It's OK for people that accept the AA "higher power" and "you are helpless" thing, and really needs the social opiate to replace their integrity and independence.
I think the resistance to AA you see from people has more to do with them being acutely aware that going down THAT road would be disastrous FOR THEM.
And it HAS been disastrous and destructive for MANY people.
My problem with this AA advertising piece masquerading as "science" is that ANY real line of scientific inquiry makes an honest attempt to DISPROVE IT'S OWN HYPOTHESIS AND PRESUMPTIONS.
That's how you can ALWAYS tell if something is real, honest, scientific inquiry, or just another crappy PR piece written by people with ZERO integrity.
Cults are great for people that are never going to amount to anything anyway, it gets them out of everyone else's hair. If you need that sort of thing, and accept that you're just a disposable cog in a little machine, have at it.
Well, that's partially accurate, I mean, lie detectors are a tool they use for intimidation and manipulation, the primary function has never been to determine if someone is lying or not.
Obviously the feds have seized his servers, and installed software and hardware to capture the passphrases, as people who don't know the service is not longer secure, log-in to get and send their email.
We did it by using gmail instead of using end to end encryption, which in retrospect was absolutely insane.
We did it by voting partisan, by falling for the whole, partisan politics, fake, "lesser of two evils" scam.
We did it by sitting back as the use of security tools to do our jobs became, in the eyes of our government, impetus to surreptitiously monitor us, and became criminalized.
We did it by continuing to patronize companies that cave to unconstitutionally and illegally yield to secret warrants.
And now we're too far into it to do much about it, but try and calmly make excuses for what's happened, least we come off as some sort of whackjob conspiracy theorists.
We did it to ourselves by valuing money, our careers, our own personal security, over our freedom, over our privacy. We've gone to great lengths to redefine what freedom and privacy in the Electronic Age IS. Because, you know, things are so much better now because of the tech we love so much.
Look, we already have so many drugs that have been used for so long, and RESPONSIBLE researcher will tell you that MOST "new" drugs are unnecessary and dangerous, and developed primarily for the purpose of making corporate wealth.
The system is broken to the core, and open sourcing it like this is probably the only thing that will mitigate that third leading cause of death in the US. (Doctors treating you with new drugs they get a kickback on).
There are drugs that have fallen into disuse that are effective, well established, and so inexpensive that Big Pharma has no desire to make them anymore, because they do not yield the OBSCENE PROFITS for the shareholders.
The entire system is based on fraud and lies and deception. Taking a known drug that's come off patent and fucking around with it a little so that you can claim it's novel enough to repatent and charge the public up the ass for is great strategy for the stockholders, but it KILLS people at worse, and rips them off when they could take something generic and established at best.
Hell, BY FAR most drugs people take in the US are prescribed because people didn't take care of themselves to begin with.
I don't believe corporatism/capitalism/wahtever you're calling it today is inherently evil; just that our version of it clearly IS.
...and he's made himself look far, far worse, far more of a threat to the public, to liberty, to peace, to justice, than some pathetic old fool downloading naked pictures of kids.
You must have been living under a rock for 15 years.
Their stuff was cheap crap, roughly half of everything I bought from them was broken or defective.
I stopped buying anything from them about 5 years back once I realized that spending twice as much on an item that actually works as advertised is waaay smarter than spending half on something that's busted or useless because it isn't what they claimed it was.
They can blame amazon all they want, but the last straw was that new vid card I ordered that arrived in a torn esd bag in an open box inside the shipping box, and their total lack of responsiveness when I informed them.
So no, I'm not shedding tears for geeks, their business model devolved over the years, and they simply couldn't compete. I suspect the real reasons they're closing have more to do with consumer saturation. I have a box in the closet of cheap busted geeks.com shit as a remider to be waaay more skeptical of online "deals". After all, how much cheap disposable busted electronic crap do YOU need ?
AND they were living in an era of significant technological change coupled with profound economic hardship...
They had also suffered marked injured national pride, having lost the previous war.
The similarities and differences are fascinating, if one bothers to carefully and impartially consider them.
What's going to happen ? Probably the same kinds of things that always happen here. People don't care about such lofty things like privacy rights and real freedom. What they want is bread and circuses. The real work is always left to those who see where it's going to go if they don't DO something about it. And sitting on the internet whining is probably the best gift you could give our real oppressors, wrapped in the flag and nosing around our private correspondence, looking for something to justify their government paychecks, and the unchecked power they enjoy.
What I have a problem with is the assumption that just because a "source" is "anonymous", it's assumed credible. We should be more concerned with proper disclosure, not with treating the continued circumvention of disclosure as some sort of worthy goal...
What a boring future world it will be then, with giga-terabites of recordings of people picking their noses and using the bathroom.
It's stupid to think that is some new normal. Yeah, there's a change, it's that some people are so boring and stupid that they think living life is the same as walking around recording it. Your bullshit "reality" is nothing more than "reality" tv, which is neither reality nor interesting.
The President signed into law what last weekend a bill that would hold Monsanto blameless when, not if, their products finally start killing people in an even more obvious manner.
Until I start hearing some of these GM proponents start talking about protecting the genetic diversity of what's alive now, everything from their lips is obvious lies, all lies.
Given today's "news" about the trillions hidden by the wealthy internationally in offshore accounts, I don't see much difference between "hackers" and the wealthy...
The examples you give do not have anything at all to do with "naysayer's", though. The two examples you give are of corrupt corporate environments where everyone was basically along for the artificially inflated (and arguably, criminal) ride as cogs in a machine that was doing wrong, but who cred so long as they were getting those paychecks ?
Your examples didn't need naysayer's; they needed aggressive, balls-to-the-wall, WHISTLE-BLOWERS.
I read the article, and your remarks, and it is clear to me that you are not talking about the same types of people AT ALL.
Recognizing potential, and nurturing it, as opposed to projecting your own negative experiences that poison your own ability to be wildly successful as a manager is not a skill most managers posses. And it certainly is not a skill one can develop if one fails to even perceive that it is even possible TO develop it.
They're wither a teen-ager, or a particularly boring person.
Some people don't allow themselves to BE bored, there's always something interesting, always some question to find an answer to, or some creative question to be asked to attempt to find an answer for.
Bored people are people who are basically stupid. With access to so many things you used to have to work so hard to have access to in the past, if you could discover and access those resources at all, boredom is now more of a red flag that you're more stupid and damaged than you are merely temporarily "bored"...
Wouldn't the EM pulse potentially do billions in damage to infrastructure, rendering any respective metropolitan areas practically uninhabitable for months ?
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That none of the people responsible for the national security infrastructure of the military will ever be held accountable for creating a situation where such a low-ranking soldier would have enough access that he could see how rotten to the core our country is and feel compelled to assume the role of whistle-blower.
I'm also sorry that so many people think what he did warrants some sort of punishment, letting all the hoards of douchebags off the hook for their responsibilities, all the way up to, and including the President.
I'm sorry the cowardly US media has ignored the international criminal activities exposed by the leak, and continued leaks, and that people are too deluded with nationalism and patriotism to even question for a moment the false authority and hubris our government is obviously guilty of, not to mention the sheer unconstitutionality of it all.
But mostly I'm sorry that they drugged Manning up and tortured him for a protracted period for the specific goal of getting him to apologize publicly. It's disgusting, and yet another example of the rampant corruption that this nation is now entirely based on.
Given notice, and been escorted out, despite having been practically loved by the entire department.
Given notice, been asked to stay two months, stayed, and regretted it because of the unreasonable work load added, and the stress involved, with no real compensation.
Just outright quit and walked-out, because the company had a rep for escorting people out that gave notice, so screw them, I needed two months off just to recover from having worked for them for two years anyway.
Didn't give notice, but took another full-time job in another industry entirely, without telling either employer, and it worked out awesome despite the stress, because the first employer went into Chapter 11 not a month later, and when they did, EVERYBODY just quit, rendering staying mote.
Started my own company, gave notice, was asked to stay longer, asked for some incentive to stay the period they requested (4 months), they refused to negotiate at all, I offered 4 weeks instead, and was locked-out without notice the very next day. Which only bothered me because of the commute that day to a non-existent job, which turned out really cool because I picked-up a new client in the same complex as I sat in a coffee shop there and overheard some guys talking about needing help NOW and not knowing where to turn.
One job I had for 6 months I quit over the phone after a 4 day cooling off period after the employer attempted to get me to sign a document assuming responsibility for a criminal incident that happened at a college campus facility my only involvement with was to daily pick up paperwork. They actually fabricated documents to make it look like I was the on-duty supervisor there, and when I went out in the car and produced MY copies of MY daily paperwork, which I kept, which they'd forgot they gave me permission to have, they backed-down. At that point, though, I knew I was dealing with a company that was basically a criminal organization - oddly enough they were a bay area security company !
In every situation I was genuinely nice (with an effort), despite often wanting to cuss. But I've been working since I was 15, and had a lot of time to watch and listen.
But I think the one reason I haven't seen here, the one single primary reason...
Because we can.
It's OK for people that accept the AA "higher power" and "you are helpless" thing, and really needs the social opiate to replace their integrity and independence.
I think the resistance to AA you see from people has more to do with them being acutely aware that going down THAT road would be disastrous FOR THEM.
And it HAS been disastrous and destructive for MANY people.
My problem with this AA advertising piece masquerading as "science" is that ANY real line of scientific inquiry makes an honest attempt to DISPROVE IT'S OWN HYPOTHESIS AND PRESUMPTIONS.
That's how you can ALWAYS tell if something is real, honest, scientific inquiry, or just another crappy PR piece written by people with ZERO integrity.
Cults are great for people that are never going to amount to anything anyway, it gets them out of everyone else's hair. If you need that sort of thing, and accept that you're just a disposable cog in a little machine, have at it.
Well, that's partially accurate, I mean, lie detectors are a tool they use for intimidation and manipulation, the primary function has never been to determine if someone is lying or not.
Obviously the feds have seized his servers, and installed software and hardware to capture the passphrases, as people who don't know the service is not longer secure, log-in to get and send their email.
Just like with the TOR network.
And this, my dear friends, is just the beginning.
We did it by using gmail instead of using end to end encryption, which in retrospect was absolutely insane.
We did it by voting partisan, by falling for the whole, partisan politics, fake, "lesser of two evils" scam.
We did it by sitting back as the use of security tools to do our jobs became, in the eyes of our government, impetus to surreptitiously monitor us, and became criminalized.
We did it by continuing to patronize companies that cave to unconstitutionally and illegally yield to secret warrants.
And now we're too far into it to do much about it, but try and calmly make excuses for what's happened, least we come off as some sort of whackjob conspiracy theorists.
We did it to ourselves by valuing money, our careers, our own personal security, over our freedom, over our privacy. We've gone to great lengths to redefine what freedom and privacy in the Electronic Age IS. Because, you know, things are so much better now because of the tech we love so much.
We are living in very interesting times, indeed.
There's a social obligation to represent everybody.
There was a The Kids In The Hall episode where the art teacher caught hell for using a beautiful white woman as a nude model. Exasperated, he said :
"But it's hard to find a fat, black cripple dyke on short notice"...
And how far back are we talking ?
Somebody would have noticed, surely...
Unless, of course, the resulting errors were errors people accepted/wanted.
Look, we already have so many drugs that have been used for so long, and RESPONSIBLE researcher will tell you that MOST "new" drugs are unnecessary and dangerous, and developed primarily for the purpose of making corporate wealth.
The system is broken to the core, and open sourcing it like this is probably the only thing that will mitigate that third leading cause of death in the US. (Doctors treating you with new drugs they get a kickback on).
There are drugs that have fallen into disuse that are effective, well established, and so inexpensive that Big Pharma has no desire to make them anymore, because they do not yield the OBSCENE PROFITS for the shareholders.
The entire system is based on fraud and lies and deception. Taking a known drug that's come off patent and fucking around with it a little so that you can claim it's novel enough to repatent and charge the public up the ass for is great strategy for the stockholders, but it KILLS people at worse, and rips them off when they could take something generic and established at best.
Hell, BY FAR most drugs people take in the US are prescribed because people didn't take care of themselves to begin with.
I don't believe corporatism/capitalism/wahtever you're calling it today is inherently evil; just that our version of it clearly IS.
What you've described reminds me of the riots in San Francisco after Milk's murderer was let off with the Twinkie Defense...
...and he's made himself look far, far worse, far more of a threat to the public, to liberty, to peace, to justice, than some pathetic old fool downloading naked pictures of kids.
You must have been living under a rock for 15 years.
Their stuff was cheap crap, roughly half of everything I bought from them was broken or defective.
I stopped buying anything from them about 5 years back once I realized that spending twice as much on an item that actually works as advertised is waaay smarter than spending half on something that's busted or useless because it isn't what they claimed it was.
They can blame amazon all they want, but the last straw was that new vid card I ordered that arrived in a torn esd bag in an open box inside the shipping box, and their total lack of responsiveness when I informed them.
So no, I'm not shedding tears for geeks, their business model devolved over the years, and they simply couldn't compete. I suspect the real reasons they're closing have more to do with consumer saturation. I have a box in the closet of cheap busted geeks.com shit as a remider to be waaay more skeptical of online "deals". After all, how much cheap disposable busted electronic crap do YOU need ?
AND they were living in an era of significant technological change coupled with profound economic hardship...
They had also suffered marked injured national pride, having lost the previous war.
The similarities and differences are fascinating, if one bothers to carefully and impartially consider them.
What's going to happen ? Probably the same kinds of things that always happen here. People don't care about such lofty things like privacy rights and real freedom. What they want is bread and circuses. The real work is always left to those who see where it's going to go if they don't DO something about it. And sitting on the internet whining is probably the best gift you could give our real oppressors, wrapped in the flag and nosing around our private correspondence, looking for something to justify their government paychecks, and the unchecked power they enjoy.
being used as the basis of a "news" article.
What I have a problem with is the assumption that just because a "source" is "anonymous", it's assumed credible. We should be more concerned with proper disclosure, not with treating the continued circumvention of disclosure as some sort of worthy goal...
What a boring future world it will be then, with giga-terabites of recordings of people picking their noses and using the bathroom.
It's stupid to think that is some new normal. Yeah, there's a change, it's that some people are so boring and stupid that they think living life is the same as walking around recording it. Your bullshit "reality" is nothing more than "reality" tv, which is neither reality nor interesting.
Uhm, you're blaming "the government" for the actions of incompetent local school administrators ?
Sorry, but "the government" isn't the only entity that's "brain-dead" in your story.
are so transparent.
The President signed into law what last weekend a bill that would hold Monsanto blameless when, not if, their products finally start killing people in an even more obvious manner.
Until I start hearing some of these GM proponents start talking about protecting the genetic diversity of what's alive now, everything from their lips is obvious lies, all lies.
Given today's "news" about the trillions hidden by the wealthy internationally in offshore accounts, I don't see much difference between "hackers" and the wealthy...
You drooling fascist retarded monkeys...
The examples you give do not have anything at all to do with "naysayer's", though. The two examples you give are of corrupt corporate environments where everyone was basically along for the artificially inflated (and arguably, criminal) ride as cogs in a machine that was doing wrong, but who cred so long as they were getting those paychecks ?
Your examples didn't need naysayer's; they needed aggressive, balls-to-the-wall, WHISTLE-BLOWERS.
I read the article, and your remarks, and it is clear to me that you are not talking about the same types of people AT ALL.
Recognizing potential, and nurturing it, as opposed to projecting your own negative experiences that poison your own ability to be wildly successful as a manager is not a skill most managers posses. And it certainly is not a skill one can develop if one fails to even perceive that it is even possible TO develop it.
Demand they dismantle the agency.
They're wither a teen-ager, or a particularly boring person.
Some people don't allow themselves to BE bored, there's always something interesting, always some question to find an answer to, or some creative question to be asked to attempt to find an answer for.
Bored people are people who are basically stupid. With access to so many things you used to have to work so hard to have access to in the past, if you could discover and access those resources at all, boredom is now more of a red flag that you're more stupid and damaged than you are merely temporarily "bored"...
Wouldn't the EM pulse potentially do billions in damage to infrastructure, rendering any respective metropolitan areas practically uninhabitable for months ?