Used to save StarOffice/OpenOffice.org as.sxw, then when ODF became default started saving as.odt, they're really very similar.
I probably wouldn't be nearly as supportive of ODF if it wasn't so damn useful. Just unzip and run whatever you want to parse the content, zip it back up and you're done.. trivial script processing of documents doesn't require me to deal with Word macros and other crap that doesn't do what I want.. I don't have to open a WYSIWYG editor to do trivial edits or script processing, I just pipe the content of a formatted document much the same as I always have with text files. sed, awk, perl, grep, all still very useful and relevant with the new and old formats of OpenOffice.org, can't say I've seen any third party utility that could do the same for a Word.doc, except for OpenOffice.org.
actually, no. I still have to deal with Office97, believe it or not so I am fully aware of what it takes to disable the little pest. In the Options menu for the Office Assistant you can disable a lot of the functionality of Clippy, but the little bastard is most definitely still there.. Example: You can uncheck the option to have Clippy pop up when you press F1, but clicking Help->MS Word Help still brings up (and leaves open) Clippy..
To disable him entirely you have to rename/delete the \Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\Actors directory. Not exactly trivial to figure out for the average user.
You've got to be kidding, right? If Vista was able to magically change my ISP's provisioning for the better I'd even switch... somehow I think it's more likely that your copy of XP was infested and leeching your bandwidth as it happily relayed spam to every corner of the intarweb.....
I'm just throwing out another possibility that I haven't seen posted yet..
I've seen aerial copper/fiber spans cut by crackheads/methfreaks shooting them down from the poles on more than one occasion (In some areas, like mountainous regions, its difficult or impossible to bury cables).. The idiot thieves take the copper span that they just cut down and leave the (at least to us) more valuable fiber laying on the ground....
I'd be surprised if this isn't what happened.. even if it was underground they probably broke it by shooting tried to pull it back up...
5-10 seconds is well beyond the latency of any connection I have ever seen, granted it would be horrible, though....... ssh does have a decent amount of overhead as it is constantly streaming data and I'd bet if you've experienced issues with ssh acting unbearably slow you just need to turn on compression (ssh -C) I commonly use ssh over a 14.4 dialup connection and haven't had any issues (though it really does seem like it has 5-10 second latency if you don't use compression).
besides, at least the ISP I work for (presumably others?) will open a trouble ticket for you if your latency is over about 150ms continuously (at least to our servers, we can't really guarantee anything beyond that)
So I guess what I'm really saying is... 5-10 seconds latency? are you fscking insane??? I think you're exaggerating a bit.
Well, a relatively simple solution (or so I'm guessing, its been a while since I delved into the GIMP source (pre 2.0)) would probably be to allow the floating windows to dock to the canvas window in much the same way as they can currently dock with each other, this sounds like it would satisfy both UI camps. The toolbox being the main window, though, that seems kind of a given to me, since you can have multiple images open, there still must be a "main" window to keep the app alive, and having the toolbox there seemed more natural than having nothing there at all.
But ah well.. as for the swearing, I could give a fuck:) but it's really all you can go by when online, you're post certainly seemed to be at a frantic pace to me when I read it.. but I can see it either way now.. so it goes with text-based communication.
You know, that is a great idea... difficult to implement, though, as you'd need to have all image editors implement support (or at least I think you would).. Maybe an "image server" sort of application that provides a standard interface and just stores the color/alpha info for a layered image, then it would be the application's job to edit and communicate the changes to the server? Hmmm... there's got to be a better way but it certainly sounds interesting, especially for a graphics workstation, maybe not too useful for others.
Maybe this is just my view, as I've been a pretty heavy GIMP user and a pretty light Photoshop user.. but to me Photoshop is also a lot of little sub-windows, just encased in a larger window that you can't take them out of. I can't stand hitting maximize on the image I'm working on in Photoshop just to see half of my image is now behind said boxes. With GIMP this is left up to the Window Manager which can be configured (for most of them, anyway) to maximize without overlapping the sub-windows of the same program (such as the tools window). My point is that, from my perspective, GIMP gives me more flexibility to setup my environment the way I want it, even on a single monitor display, though it may take a bit of time dinking around with it and actually using it before you find out exactly how it would work best for you. That's the same with any application, however.
Multi-window applications have been around for quite some time in the UNIX world.. XEphem & GRASS come to mind. In the telco world there are several more commercial applications using this paradigm still today (even on Windows) such as Spirent's React or Anritsu's Tapestry. In other words, this isn't an entirely new idea, and GTK has been designed to flexible enough to allow for many, many types of applications to be built. GTK has grown from a widget set only for GIMP to be (dare I say?) the most used toolkit for UI development on Linux, so it gives developers the option to create applications however they desire and doesn't *force* anyone to any particular UI strategy.
GIMP meshes pretty well with other GTK apps in my opinion, the GNOME window manager is excellent at placing windows for apps like GIMP (whereas on Windows, it really is horrible), consistent theming, window style, widget look and feel, etc..
Who knows.. but judging from your language you are obviously pretty upset about the way GIMP has been managed.. just maybe one day it'll push you to fork it and work towards realizing your vision of the future. just make sure you remember you're comments when I post derogatory comments about *your* UI.
You know, isn't it a bit counter-intuitive to complain about the name of the GIMP? I mean, c'mon.. let's say you create a program, and you give it a name. You LIKE the name, it's your baby, you name it. Now a bunch of people on slashdot and on IRC burst in and start saying "man, that name sucks.. change it" repeatedly.. It's not you're job to name it... I'd be pretty annoyed if people started an uproar over my daughter's name, give the GIMP folks a break.
I really can't be the only one that absolutely loves GIMP's UI.. can I?
Everyone that seems to have a problem with it is always saying the same thing.. "It should look like Photoshop", "It should feel like Photoshop", heck "It should be Photoshop". Personally I hate applications with one big monolithic window.. they always tend to then have encosed sub-windows that you cannot pull out of the main window, this drives me crazy when using a multi-monitor display. GIMP is a godsend for allowing me the flexibility to place all my tool dialogs on one monitor, in the locations I prefer (and it remembers them between sessions!), then have a maximized editor window on another (which saves sooo much "zoom in" "zoom out" time due to the more efficient real-estate usage).
I can't wait until I go out and buy a shiny new DVD and bring it home only to realize that the high school kid at the register failed to "activate" the disc properly... only to take it back to the store and be accused of being a thief. After all, only a thief would have an "un-activated" disc, right?
blah.. I don't trust anything like this...
I'm confused: what version is this for? Firefox 2.0.0.3 is giving me no problems making a nameless bookmark either by using Bookmarks->Bookmark this page or right clicking and choosing new bookmark.. it happily lets me clear the Bookmark name and never grays out the OK button for me...
I fail to see anything politically incorrect with the names squid or python.. and I've seen them used in many commercial and even educational institutions without any issues..
FCKeditor, well... perhaps...
The OS is essentially all the tools you see on the computer (shell, etc), the OS talks to the kernel, which then talks to the hardware. (stripped down, but basically true).
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> Is that enough room to run a dual 98/Linux OS?
I dual booted Win98/Linux with a Pentium 100Mhz with a 4 gig drive just fine back when I was first experimenting with Linux.
And recently I setup a old 486 Thinkpad with a 2 gig drive as Linux only - 2 gigs can feel pretty cramped nowadays, however.
So 3-4 gigs should feel pretty comfortable for a Linux Partition and Win98 can live on a gig easily (without apps, that is).
Are there any Slashdotters here in Hawaii?? Surely a missile zooming up to shoot down a satellite would be visible, would it not?
Used to save StarOffice/OpenOffice.org as .sxw, then when ODF became default started saving as .odt, they're really very similar.
I probably wouldn't be nearly as supportive of ODF if it wasn't so damn useful. Just unzip and run whatever you want to parse the content, zip it back up and you're done.. trivial script processing of documents doesn't require me to deal with Word macros and other crap that doesn't do what I want.. I don't have to open a WYSIWYG editor to do trivial edits or script processing, I just pipe the content of a formatted document much the same as I always have with text files. sed, awk, perl, grep, all still very useful and relevant with the new and old formats of OpenOffice.org, can't say I've seen any third party utility that could do the same for a Word .doc, except for OpenOffice.org.
This has partially been implemented (or attempted, I should say) as an attampt to reduce counterfeiting... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/08/0111228&mode=thread&tid=152&tid=185
actually, no. I still have to deal with Office97, believe it or not so I am fully aware of what it takes to disable the little pest. In the Options menu for the Office Assistant you can disable a lot of the functionality of Clippy, but the little bastard is most definitely still there.. Example: You can uncheck the option to have Clippy pop up when you press F1, but clicking Help->MS Word Help still brings up (and leaves open) Clippy.. To disable him entirely you have to rename/delete the \Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\Actors directory. Not exactly trivial to figure out for the average user.
You've got to be kidding, right? If Vista was able to magically change my ISP's provisioning for the better I'd even switch... somehow I think it's more likely that your copy of XP was infested and leeching your bandwidth as it happily relayed spam to every corner of the intarweb.....
I'm just throwing out another possibility that I haven't seen posted yet..
I've seen aerial copper/fiber spans cut by crackheads/methfreaks shooting them down from the poles on more than one occasion (In some areas, like mountainous regions, its difficult or impossible to bury cables).. The idiot thieves take the copper span that they just cut down and leave the (at least to us) more valuable fiber laying on the ground....
I'd be surprised if this isn't what happened.. even if it was underground they probably broke it by shooting tried to pull it back up...
5-10 seconds is well beyond the latency of any connection I have ever seen, granted it would be horrible, though....... ssh does have a decent amount of overhead as it is constantly streaming data and I'd bet if you've experienced issues with ssh acting unbearably slow you just need to turn on compression (ssh -C) I commonly use ssh over a 14.4 dialup connection and haven't had any issues (though it really does seem like it has 5-10 second latency if you don't use compression).
besides, at least the ISP I work for (presumably others?) will open a trouble ticket for you if your latency is over about 150ms continuously (at least to our servers, we can't really guarantee anything beyond that)
So I guess what I'm really saying is... 5-10 seconds latency? are you fscking insane??? I think you're exaggerating a bit.
I call BS. Show me where Linus said anything of the sort. I did, however find a site http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/47182/index.h tml that shows this as utter FUD.
I'll care.. I'd say 95% sure this is a scam, but "I want to believe" - I'm marking my calendar and hope to see you around Slashdot in the future :)
Well, a relatively simple solution (or so I'm guessing, its been a while since I delved into the GIMP source (pre 2.0)) would probably be to allow the floating windows to dock to the canvas window in much the same way as they can currently dock with each other, this sounds like it would satisfy both UI camps. The toolbox being the main window, though, that seems kind of a given to me, since you can have multiple images open, there still must be a "main" window to keep the app alive, and having the toolbox there seemed more natural than having nothing there at all.
But ah well.. as for the swearing, I could give a fuck :) but it's really all you can go by when online, you're post certainly seemed to be at a frantic pace to me when I read it.. but I can see it either way now.. so it goes with text-based communication.
You know, that is a great idea... difficult to implement, though, as you'd need to have all image editors implement support (or at least I think you would).. Maybe an "image server" sort of application that provides a standard interface and just stores the color/alpha info for a layered image, then it would be the application's job to edit and communicate the changes to the server? Hmmm... there's got to be a better way but it certainly sounds interesting, especially for a graphics workstation, maybe not too useful for others.
You are truly an expert in naming things in a way that is meaningful and promoting... I bow to you.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trUrban Dictionary: trogre
A troger is when a person is so ugly, they are a mix between a troll and an ogre. "Look at that girls face! What a trogre!"
Maybe this is just my view, as I've been a pretty heavy GIMP user and a pretty light Photoshop user.. but to me Photoshop is also a lot of little sub-windows, just encased in a larger window that you can't take them out of. I can't stand hitting maximize on the image I'm working on in Photoshop just to see half of my image is now behind said boxes. With GIMP this is left up to the Window Manager which can be configured (for most of them, anyway) to maximize without overlapping the sub-windows of the same program (such as the tools window). My point is that, from my perspective, GIMP gives me more flexibility to setup my environment the way I want it, even on a single monitor display, though it may take a bit of time dinking around with it and actually using it before you find out exactly how it would work best for you. That's the same with any application, however.
Multi-window applications have been around for quite some time in the UNIX world.. XEphem & GRASS come to mind. In the telco world there are several more commercial applications using this paradigm still today (even on Windows) such as Spirent's React or Anritsu's Tapestry. In other words, this isn't an entirely new idea, and GTK has been designed to flexible enough to allow for many, many types of applications to be built. GTK has grown from a widget set only for GIMP to be (dare I say?) the most used toolkit for UI development on Linux, so it gives developers the option to create applications however they desire and doesn't *force* anyone to any particular UI strategy.
GIMP meshes pretty well with other GTK apps in my opinion, the GNOME window manager is excellent at placing windows for apps like GIMP (whereas on Windows, it really is horrible), consistent theming, window style, widget look and feel, etc..
Who knows.. but judging from your language you are obviously pretty upset about the way GIMP has been managed.. just maybe one day it'll push you to fork it and work towards realizing your vision of the future. just make sure you remember you're comments when I post derogatory comments about *your* UI.
You know, isn't it a bit counter-intuitive to complain about the name of the GIMP? I mean, c'mon.. let's say you create a program, and you give it a name. You LIKE the name, it's your baby, you name it. Now a bunch of people on slashdot and on IRC burst in and start saying "man, that name sucks.. change it" repeatedly.. It's not you're job to name it... I'd be pretty annoyed if people started an uproar over my daughter's name, give the GIMP folks a break.
It does, GNU="GNU's Not UNIX", GIMP="GNU Image Manipulation Program", GTK="GIMP Tool Kit". IE, they can't really "drop GTK", GTK was created for GIMP!
I really can't be the only one that absolutely loves GIMP's UI.. can I? Everyone that seems to have a problem with it is always saying the same thing.. "It should look like Photoshop", "It should feel like Photoshop", heck "It should be Photoshop". Personally I hate applications with one big monolithic window.. they always tend to then have encosed sub-windows that you cannot pull out of the main window, this drives me crazy when using a multi-monitor display. GIMP is a godsend for allowing me the flexibility to place all my tool dialogs on one monitor, in the locations I prefer (and it remembers them between sessions!), then have a maximized editor window on another (which saves sooo much "zoom in" "zoom out" time due to the more efficient real-estate usage).
It would seem you've never seen Myspace....
I can't wait until I go out and buy a shiny new DVD and bring it home only to realize that the high school kid at the register failed to "activate" the disc properly... only to take it back to the store and be accused of being a thief. After all, only a thief would have an "un-activated" disc, right? blah.. I don't trust anything like this...
For those of you at work, beware the obligatory goatse reference the parent decided to post
RFC 8288?? WTF is that? Are you referring to RFC 2822 (Internet Message Format)..? I don't see how the structure of email messages is relevant here...
I'm confused: what version is this for? Firefox 2.0.0.3 is giving me no problems making a nameless bookmark either by using Bookmarks->Bookmark this page or right clicking and choosing new bookmark.. it happily lets me clear the Bookmark name and never grays out the OK button for me...
I fail to see anything politically incorrect with the names squid or python.. and I've seen them used in many commercial and even educational institutions without any issues.. FCKeditor, well... perhaps...
The OS is essentially all the tools you see on the computer (shell, etc), the OS talks to the kernel, which then talks to the hardware. (stripped down, but basically true).