There are still serious questions about school funding; who's paying for what and how much, and if they way they're doing it is constituational
Schools are having a tougher time passing levies for operations, so they're really going to be touchy on the bottom line
I'm not saying it can't be done; just that it's going to be a seriously uphill battle.
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There are quite a few other channels for support besides Mandrake Expert. There are the Mandrake Expert Mailing list, the Mandrake Newbie Mailing list, alt.os.linux.mandrake, and so on.
Their pay schemes have not yet been implemented, and I would be surprised if they ever are.
Believe me, mandrakeexpert is just as frustrating for the experts. We get bombarded with questions like, "Can I get AOL on Mandrake?" "I want to set up a home LAN." So, yes, there is a difference between end-users and experts.
Trying to blame mandrakeexpert for what is going on at MandrakeSoft is like trying to blame Slashdot for what happens to LNUX.
Well, they've got all the buzzwords right, but I hope that someone in Rochester or Armonk decides to actually market the damn thing.
The 400 is a rock solid box. In 4 years of working with one, I've only had 2 unplanned outages -- neither the fault of the 400.
They have a long way to go with some of their internet tools. The POP server doesn't support the full POP3 command set, the HTTP server is unwieldy and slow (IMO).
My personal feeling for Linux on the 400 is that it could probably be done on the IPCS (Integrated PC Server), which would be useful for a firewall, since Big Blue has decided to discontinue the firewall product for the 400. Other than that, it seems that it would be foolish to try to port Linux natively, although very cool.:)
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Anyone remember "Cliff 'Em All"??
Seems like that was almost a celebration of the way fans snuck cameras in and recorded when they weren't supposed to. Sneaky Metallifux, they called 'em, along with thanks to everyone who sent the tapes in.
Now this?
I was going to buy the S&M album, but I think I'll pass now.
First of all, I want to encourage all of you who know, might know, have heard of, would like to know...of Jason to take a quick minute or two and send him your best wishes. It will mean more to him and his loved ones than you will ever know.
How do I know this? Less than a month ago, my 28 year-old brother was killed in a one-car accident. His work brought him in contact with people all across the U.S. There was not enough room in the church for all the people. I can't tell you how comforting it was for us to know what a difference he had made in so many people's lives.
Take a minute to send a note. It doesn't cost anything, and your Karma points will soar!
If you sell schools a box that doesn't need to be maintained and just plugs into their network and gets the job done year after year, I think you have a good value
Indeed, and with Linux, AS/400, Sun, what have you, that is exactly what you get. It's not about good value for these guys, or we would have no problems selling Linux, AS/400, et. al., since it would be a no-brainer.
The problem isn't with value, it's with perceptions. Even with Linux's momentum, NT is still positioned as the way to go. We just lost a sale to a district that had an AS/400, but migrated to 1/2 dozen NT boxes anyway.
Microsoft doesn't have to do anything, really, just sitting on the committee gives them de facto control, it appears to me.
This is exactly correct. The apps are already there and extend to way more than just student information. It is also for financials, procurement (warehouse and otherwise).
I work at a smallish software shop, where we develop some of these type apps. The problem is: there's one pretty major player in this field who is dropping support for all platforms that are not NT. There are many third-party applications that piggyback with those applications, such as ours, that do not run on NT.
On the surface, it looks like MS is going to play nice with everyone, mainly since they've got the top vendor(s) in their corner.
Now, then, if you are a school-type entity, you are notoriously cheap. Are you going to spend $50,000 for an AS/400 and all the related software, even if it is SIF compliant, when you could get a VAR turnkey solution for 1/2 that price.
Or look at the other side of the coin. A nice open-source Linux solution that is a marvel of technology. The questions the school administrators will ask is, "Who's going to support it?" Or, more specifically, "Who can we sue when things go wrong?"
Reliability, scalability, stability and TCO issues aside. Schools will go with the turnkey NT solution. Public entities are not among the wisest decision makers on the planet.
So, even if the specs are open, I'm very skeptical to say the least.
While I happen to think that all the Unices are probably superior platforms for this type of application, don't forget about some of IBM's offerings: AS/400, OS/390, and so forth.
Big Blue is active in the development of Apache, and I would be surprised if they weren't sneaking parts of Apache to their other OS's, which have anemic TCP/IP suites to say the least.
You may be surprised at the number of banks that are potentially clueful.
Where you are going to run into serious problems is with the regulatory institutions, such as the FDIC, FFIEC, NCUA, etc.
Theseguys are the tough nuts to crack. I can tell you from first hand experience that they take privacy and security very seriously.
Supposed data processing specialists in the examiners offices are utterly mystified in many respects. They wouldn't know an AS/400 from a 300 bowling game. They have an armlock on the software companies, forcing them to hold source code in escrow with a third party, so that no one other than the company messes with it, and so that (surprise) they can peruse it at will.
The whole open source concept would be entirely foreign and entirely unacceptable to them, however , that is where headway needs to be made.
What you'll hear from the banks, to a one, is this, "Will it pass muster with the examiners?"
In this case, the answer would be a resounding NO.
It's sad to see ourselves portrayed as a bunch of semi-literates whose idea of a quick-witted riposte is, "Fuck you, you asslicking whore."
My particular favorite was the person who laid the blame for incidents such as Columbine at the feet of Mindcraft. That was rich. Can you lead me through the logic to that conclusion, Sherlock? It's a little fuzzy to me.
This is our public image, folks. If we (as a community) are going to claim to be a meritocracy, then let those who have proven themselves to be the best spokespersons do the job. If the best rebuttal you can create contains a curse word of any stripe, hit that CTRL-C, and let someone else do the talking.
When items such as these get posted for the world to see, it's reminiscent of the old E.F. Hutton commercials. When tripe like this gets posted, everybody listens.
Let's have a little reality check here. Most of the "guidelines" that I've seen suggested here could apply to most workers -- not just the "geeks." Treat people well, and they will perform for you. It's that simple, and it applies to everyone -- not just the geek elite.
The whole country is at the boiling point, and everything is about to explode. There are racial tensions, social class tensions, and of course, the topic at hand.
The problem, as I see it, is that every group in the world wants to be recognized as unique. This creates a very deep "us vs. them" mentality. Everyone who feels they have been repressed or beaten down has to have someone on which to place the blame. More often than not, it comes down to an amorphous "other" who catches the blame, whether it be jocks, whitey, jews, and so forth. (Non-PC terms intended...each "us" tends to have derogatory terms for each "them.")
It comes down to personal responsibility. Are you a strong enough person, with enough self-respect to say, "This is who I am. I am not the product of someone else's feelings toward me and my beliefs. I do not blame anyone but myself for who I am."
Now, before you get out the flamethrowers, I must tell you that I have been in those shoes -- hated and feared, taunted and beaten -- because I was smart. I learned, over time, to compromise. Maybe it was a chickenshit way out, but it worked, and I kept my sanity. I spent a little bit of time in their world, and invited them to spend a little bit of time in mine.
Instead of crying, "Poor Me" at the top of your lungs, try to figure out how to make your own situation better. No one -- I repeat -- no one is going to do that for you. If you can do that, no one will be able to find a reason not to respect you.
Although this is somewhat of a rant, it really didn't start out to be that way. I don't mean to minimize anyone's feelings or experiences. Yes, it's difficult, and in an ideal world, everyone would be automagically respected because of who they are and how they think,etc., but...this world is definitely far from ideal...
Off topic, but if you would like some help with documentation or something like that, email me at the address above. I have the same model, and it's one of the few things that keeps a Win 95 partition on my HDD!
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- The legislature didn't get a budget out yet.
- There are still serious questions about school funding; who's paying for what and how much, and if they way they're doing it is constituational
- Schools are having a tougher time passing levies for operations, so they're really going to be touchy on the bottom line
I'm not saying it can't be done; just that it's going to be a seriously uphill battle.There are quite a few other channels for support besides Mandrake Expert. There are the Mandrake Expert Mailing list, the Mandrake Newbie Mailing list, alt.os.linux.mandrake, and so on.
Their pay schemes have not yet been implemented, and I would be surprised if they ever are.
Believe me, mandrakeexpert is just as frustrating for the experts. We get bombarded with questions like, "Can I get AOL on Mandrake?" "I want to set up a home LAN." So, yes, there is a difference between end-users and experts.
Trying to blame mandrakeexpert for what is going on at MandrakeSoft is like trying to blame Slashdot for what happens to LNUX.
Well, they've got all the buzzwords right, but I hope that someone in Rochester or Armonk decides to actually market the damn thing.
The 400 is a rock solid box. In 4 years of working with one, I've only had 2 unplanned outages -- neither the fault of the 400.
They have a long way to go with some of their internet tools. The POP server doesn't support the full POP3 command set, the HTTP server is unwieldy and slow (IMO).
My personal feeling for Linux on the 400 is that it could probably be done on the IPCS (Integrated PC Server), which would be useful for a firewall, since Big Blue has decided to discontinue the firewall product for the 400. Other than that, it seems that it would be foolish to try to port Linux natively, although very cool. :)
Anyone remember "Cliff 'Em All"??
Seems like that was almost a celebration of the way fans snuck cameras in and recorded when they weren't supposed to. Sneaky Metallifux, they called 'em, along with thanks to everyone who sent the tapes in.
Now this?
I was going to buy the S&M album, but I think I'll pass now.
First of all, I want to encourage all of you who know, might know, have heard of, would like to know...of Jason to take a quick minute or two and send him your best wishes. It will mean more to him and his loved ones than you will ever know.
How do I know this? Less than a month ago, my 28 year-old brother was killed in a one-car accident. His work brought him in contact with people all across the U.S. There was not enough room in the church for all the people. I can't tell you how comforting it was for us to know what a difference he had made in so many people's lives.
Take a minute to send a note. It doesn't cost anything, and your Karma points will soar!
If you sell schools a box that doesn't need to be maintained and just plugs into their network and gets the job done year after year, I think you have a good value
Indeed, and with Linux, AS/400, Sun, what have you, that is exactly what you get. It's not about good value for these guys, or we would have no problems selling Linux, AS/400, et. al., since it would be a no-brainer.
The problem isn't with value, it's with perceptions. Even with Linux's momentum, NT is still positioned as the way to go. We just lost a sale to a district that had an AS/400, but migrated to 1/2 dozen NT boxes anyway.
Microsoft doesn't have to do anything, really, just sitting on the committee gives them de facto control, it appears to me.
This is exactly correct. The apps are already there and extend to way more than just student information. It is also for financials, procurement (warehouse and otherwise).
I work at a smallish software shop, where we develop some of these type apps. The problem is: there's one pretty major player in this field who is dropping support for all platforms that are not NT. There are many third-party applications that piggyback with those applications, such as ours, that do not run on NT.
On the surface, it looks like MS is going to play nice with everyone, mainly since they've got the top vendor(s) in their corner.
Now, then, if you are a school-type entity, you are notoriously cheap. Are you going to spend $50,000 for an AS/400 and all the related software, even if it is SIF compliant, when you could get a VAR turnkey solution for 1/2 that price.
Or look at the other side of the coin. A nice open-source Linux solution that is a marvel of technology. The questions the school administrators will ask is, "Who's going to support it?" Or, more specifically, "Who can we sue when things go wrong?"
Reliability, scalability, stability and TCO issues aside. Schools will go with the turnkey NT solution. Public entities are not among the wisest decision makers on the planet.
So, even if the specs are open, I'm very skeptical to say the least.
While I happen to think that all the Unices are probably superior platforms for this type of application, don't forget about some of IBM's offerings: AS/400, OS/390, and so forth.
Big Blue is active in the development of Apache, and I would be surprised if they weren't sneaking parts of Apache to their other OS's, which have anemic TCP/IP suites to say the least.
Just a thought.
You may be surprised at the number of banks that are potentially clueful.
Where you are going to run into serious problems is with the regulatory institutions, such as the FDIC, FFIEC, NCUA, etc.
Theseguys are the tough nuts to crack. I can tell you from first hand experience that they take privacy and security very seriously.
Supposed data processing specialists in the examiners offices are utterly mystified in many respects. They wouldn't know an AS/400 from a 300 bowling game. They have an armlock on the software companies, forcing them to hold source code in escrow with a third party, so that no one other than the company messes with it, and so that (surprise) they can peruse it at will.
The whole open source concept would be entirely foreign and entirely unacceptable to them, however , that is where headway needs to be made.
What you'll hear from the banks, to a one, is this, "Will it pass muster with the examiners?"
In this case, the answer would be a resounding NO.
/me likes a little bit of crow, served right up with some humble pie.
I stand firmly and humbly corrected. :)
Regis: Is that your final answer?
c+era: Yes, Reej, that's my final answer.
Regis: I'm sorry, you lose the $100 question. The correct answer is allot, and I'm pretty sure even Tom Christiansen will back me up on this one.
- Different perspective. It's always nice to get a different POV than yours, if only to make you stop and think.
- Gauge possible reaction from public. Who would have a better idea of what John Q. Public might think, the scientists or the clergy?
- Never underestimate the power of good PR.
I could go on, but the question I would ask is, why not?P.S. I'm a devout agnostic.
Maybe I'm just lazy, but wouldn't the old "opposite and equal" make sex in near-zero-g too much damn work to be fun?
I don't even want to think of zero G.
Seems like Newt Gingrich wrote about this in one of his weighty philosophical tomes. 1945, I think??
Hell, now that I brought up the subject of Newt Gingrich, I don't even want to think about sex...
That the guy who invented the internet thought he had to be physically present at an office to write an article, don't you think?
IIRC, it was Slim Pickens who rode the bomb at the end.
Not much of a surprise, but NT gives the same thing.
Seems like I remember Alan addressing this in his diary. This was probably ~6 months ago.
It really gravels my buttocks that items like this even get posted.
There could be a thousand of these: "Why being in product support sucks." "Why being a electrical engineer sucks."
Blah, blah, blah.
If your job sucks, move on to a different one.
I did that very thing, took a pay cut to do it, and have found myself way happier ever since.
It's sad to see ourselves portrayed as a bunch of semi-literates whose idea of a quick-witted riposte is, "Fuck you, you asslicking whore."
My particular favorite was the person who laid the blame for incidents such as Columbine at the feet of Mindcraft. That was rich. Can you lead me through the logic to that conclusion, Sherlock? It's a little fuzzy to me.
This is our public image, folks. If we (as a community) are going to claim to be a meritocracy, then let those who have proven themselves to be the best spokespersons do the job. If the best rebuttal you can create contains a curse word of any stripe, hit that CTRL-C, and let someone else do the talking.
When items such as these get posted for the world to see, it's reminiscent of the old E.F. Hutton commercials. When tripe like this gets posted, everybody listens.
Let's have a little reality check here. Most of the "guidelines" that I've seen suggested here could apply to most workers -- not just the "geeks." Treat people well, and they will perform for you. It's that simple, and it applies to everyone -- not just the geek elite.
The whole country is at the boiling point, and everything is about to explode. There are racial tensions, social class tensions, and of course, the topic at hand.
The problem, as I see it, is that every group in the world wants to be recognized as unique. This creates a very deep "us vs. them" mentality. Everyone who feels they have been repressed or beaten down has to have someone on which to place the blame. More often than not, it comes down to an amorphous "other" who catches the blame, whether it be jocks, whitey, jews, and so forth. (Non-PC terms intended...each "us" tends to have derogatory terms for each "them.")
It comes down to personal responsibility. Are you a strong enough person, with enough self-respect to say, "This is who I am. I am not the product of someone else's feelings toward me and my beliefs. I do not blame anyone but myself for who I am."
Now, before you get out the flamethrowers, I must tell you that I have been in those shoes -- hated and feared, taunted and beaten -- because I was smart. I learned, over time, to compromise. Maybe it was a chickenshit way out, but it worked, and I kept my sanity. I spent a little bit of time in their world, and invited them to spend a little bit of time in mine.
Instead of crying, "Poor Me" at the top of your lungs, try to figure out how to make your own situation better. No one -- I repeat -- no one is going to do that for you. If you can do that, no one will be able to find a reason not to respect you.
Although this is somewhat of a rant, it really didn't start out to be that way. I don't mean to minimize anyone's feelings or experiences. Yes, it's difficult, and in an ideal world, everyone would be automagically respected because of who they are and how they think ,etc., but...this world is definitely far from ideal...
Off topic, but if you would like some help with documentation or something like that, email me at the address above. I have the same model, and it's one of the few things that keeps a Win 95 partition on my HDD!