Linus does not care about free software. He never had, he never will. He doesn't understand or he does not accept the idea of free code. He has this idea that he is "pragmatic" (whatever that means) but that basically means code works.
I would have thought that the whole bitkeeper thing would have thought him the importance of free software and open source but apparently the lesson has not sunk in.
Personally I predict he will give up on linux and the GPL and either retire or code for BSD (or a company). I don't see him continuing along with a GPLed project when he does not like the GPL, does not like the FSF, does not like the idea of free software and does not like Stallman.
All I know is that you called me a racist for disagreeing with the policies of israel. I am merely trying to point out that I have nothing against the semitic people. In fact I am all for the creation of a nation for the semitic people of palestine.
The vast majority of the people in israel are causasians from around the globe. Very few are semites.
BTW learning a language does not change your race. Neither does adopting a religion.
Next time you call somebody racist pay attention. I love the semitic race. I think they are great people who deserve better then they are getting from the citizens of israel who are occupying them.
It's israel that is anti semitic. It is israel that is killing the semites by the bucketload every year. I love the semitic race.
Tghanks for the tip. Postgres is indeed very extendable and very capable. It's just not that easy. Slony is so much harder to set up then mysql replication, slonyII is dead as far as I can see. No clustering in site either.
It's taken them a long time but postgres does have a nice windows installer. Now they need to make it easy to set up replication and clustering and get some nice admin tools.
Well I am better then jeffrey dahmer and osama bin laden so that makes me ethical right?
The problem with comparing yourself to the worst of the world and patting yourself on the back for not being as bad as the most vile and evil person is that you end up being pretty vile and evil. You set low goals for yourself and you are likely to achieve them.
BTW I think the worst thing MS did ever was to fight SPF. We could have put a decent in the spam problem if MS had just accepted that standard instead of sabotaging it. That and the reltentless push and lobbying by MS for DRM are the two worst things MS has ever done.
"Because the Slashdot community, in general, is critical of anything Microsoft does not because it's objectively bad, but because Microsoft did it."
So what? It's just another corporation. People say bad things about all kinds of corporations. I have a friend who hates anything made by GM. He is constantly pointing out various GM cars and telling me what piles of shit they are. You know what I don't feel the need to jump up and down and defend GM. I just don't give a shit about GM the corporation and GM products. Who the fuck cares what anybody says about any corporation. It's not like they have souls or feelings to get hurt.
"Saying Slashdot doesn't have distinct anti-Microsoft slant is ridiculous on its face. One need look no further than the Bill Gates/Borg icon to see that."
I am just going by the moderation. Pro MS and pro windows posts get modded up to 5 more often then not.
As in any community there are watches, doers and what I call Nelsons who sit on the sideline making fun of people who do stuff and try to berate them. the people who write docs for photoshop are doers, we want to recruit them. We want to target them. We don't want to targe the nelsons who complain about the name.
Fox is anti democrat. They are against half of the population of america.
Slashdot LEANS anti MS (It's debatable and I'll get back to that) so they are against one corporation.
What's wrong with being against a corporation which everybody, even their defenders acknowledge acts unethically? Not one person who defends MS stands up and says "MS is a beacon of light and hope to the world" it's always "Sure they have done some crappy things in the past, but they are doing this one thing OK" or "sure they acted unethically but all businesses do" or "sure they acted unethically but they should not have been prosecuted because the anti-trust laws are bogus". Nobody, not even the most ardent defender of MS disputes the fact that the company is unethical.
Why do you get so worked up MS anyway? It's just another corporation, there are thousands of corporations. If I said Nissan, maytag, or rockport was a crappy corporation or made crappy products would you have a knipshiin about that?
Now does/. lean anti MS? I don't think so. There are a dozens if not hundreds of MS trolls, astro turfers and shills here on/. Take a survey of the highest ranked posts and you will see that most of them are pro MS. Pro MS comments always get upmodded especially if the take the edge of by saying "sure they are unethical but.....".
Finally.
So what? I am sick of hearing this complaint. If you don't like people critizing MS then go to gotdotnet or any one of hundreds of web sites where people dance around singing holy holy holy about MS and Bill Gates. It's a big internet, there is room for everybody.
Get rid of the lawns. Lawn grass required over two inches of rain per week (or the equavalent in sprinklers) and does nothing. Plant native grasses, put in rocks, put in bark, or better yet plant some vegetables and feed yourself too.
Absolutely so it needs to foster a community that is willing and able to write plug ins and documentation.
I will say it for the umpteenth time. People who whine about the name of the project will never write documentation and will never write a plug in. They will never do anything but bitch 24/7 and reduce morale of the people who are doing actual work.
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A few years ago they were attempting to sell hardware with oracle pre-installed too. Come to think of it they were also trying to sell managed oracle installs where they would maintain the thing.
it used to be called mozilla and netscape before that. So what?
Look the reality is that the corporations have claimed ownership of the entire english language. No matter what word you think of some corporation someplace has it trademarked, copyrighted or patented. How many open source projects have had to change their names because some corporation threatened them. One day you will have to use something called cuntbuster because that will be only word left.
Anyway all of that is beside the point. Like I said I would rather have a smaller community of active users then a larger community of whining assholes. If namimg a project cuntbuster keeps away the do-nothing-but-complain crowd then I am all for it.
Come to think of it I bet the reason GIMP is scriptable but not pretty is because the name gimp kept the art fags away. To me that's a good thing.
I think firefox is a special case because an increase in share in the browser market will discourage people from writing IE only web sites. The photo editing industry does not have a similar situation. Whether GIMP has one user or a million only makes a difference in so far as those users help or hurt the community. I say a community of 10,000 active helping users is better then a community of one million whining ones.
The question is why would you want this guy to use GIMP? If he refuses to a product based solely on name without even bothering to learn anything about it he will probably hurt the community more then helping it.
Think about it. This guy will whine non stop at the developers. He will yell and scream at people for not helping him enough. He will fill the IRC channels with vitriol and he will not lift a finger to help anybody, will not file a bug report, will not write one line code, will not write one line of documentation, will not submit one icon or even an idea towards making anything better.
I honestly don't see why the GIMP community needs people like him. This is not a product, nobody is making money. Is the loss of a guy who laughs at the name and refuses to use the product a loss or a gain?
I say it's a gain, I say it's a huge gain because the guy is going to end up being a drain on the morale and the productivity of everybody else.
Too many people are content to steal a copy of photoshop and not enough people want to help.
It doesn't help when all you get is grief from people who don't even use the product because "it's not photoshop".
I am shocked that it still exists really. When all you get is being pissed on by the/. hordes all day long I don't think too many people would be interested in joining such a project.
To be fair mysql was first to the market with technologies that many people care about. Mysql had replication, solid user level security, and full text indexing way before postgres. Not only that but even when postgres eventually caught up mysql take on these technologies made them easier to set up and maintain.
You have stated your opinions. Alas they are severely detached from reality.
"You can hate it all you want. There is no problem with you being an antisemite. "
If hating israel makes me an anti semite then israel must be a racist state. I can be a racist for hating israel only if israel is a racially pure state.
"if we knew a person knew where a nuke set to go off in the next 8 hours was planted in new york city (25 million dead- women, children, old people, pregnant folks), I would personally take the moral stain of doing whatever it took to get the information in time to neutralize the bomb."
Most people believe like you do. They somehow think that the people in gitmo are in posession of some knowledge that will save lives as soon as we torture them enough and get the answer. Alas most people are idiots. They don't realize that those people are tortured overseas in pakistan, syria, lebanon and israel. By the time a prisoner is brought to gitmo they have already gone through their first regime of torture and enough time has passed to obviate any immediate danger. To continue to torture them is simply sadism, doing it for pleasure. To continue to torture them years after they have been plucked from afghanistan is pure evil.
"No- not really even a smidgeon. It has a lot more to do with the fact that we are not islamic. They mean to convert us- peacefully if possible- and by the sword otherwise."
Well if that doesn't prove you are republitard then nothing does.
"No- millions of americans would not be comfortable with going over and shooting up a schoolyard full of children."
They would be very comfortable with dropping nukes on iran. We like to do our killing from the air.
"The instant that islam stops trying to kill us, we will forget the malice immediately. As long as they keep trying, we are going to get more and more aggressive."
Well lets hope this crusade works better for us then the last one did.
I tell you what. He is definately not living the life he wants to anymore. As I said in another post he has at least a decade if not two living in his current state. Thanks to the marvels of modern medicine it might be another three decades.
I guess what I am trying to say is that part of intelligence is having a longer term outlook, being able to predict obvious future events, and taking expert advice.
I know he is miserable now. Every day he lives with the inability to express himself, to be a spectator in life where he used to be a participant. He will live like this for at least the next decade if not longer.
I have thought about this for a long time and have come to the conclusion that he acted like a child who can't control his impulses. A child will spend any extra cash on candy unless they are thought and trained to save the money for later gratification. To him controlling his eating and exercising was too much effort and the benefits were too delayed. At every opportunity he chose instant gratification instread of doing something painful now to save himself misery in the future.
I do agree with you that he lead a full life, that he has a string of accomplishments that most people would find satisfying but I don't think that all somehow makes his present condition bearable. I know he is miserable, I see it every day.
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At least Stallman didn't call anybody communist. Micro$oft did though.
Why do you claim MS is not evil? Isn't lying, cheating and stealing evil? Isn't the love of money root of all evil?
"Companies like Microsoft aren't anti-GPL, it just doesn't fit with their business model."
Sure they are. They have spent millions fighting it. MS has spoken out against the GPL dozens of times.
Linus does not care about free software. He never had, he never will. He doesn't understand or he does not accept the idea of free code. He has this idea that he is "pragmatic" (whatever that means) but that basically means code works.
I would have thought that the whole bitkeeper thing would have thought him the importance of free software and open source but apparently the lesson has not sunk in.
Personally I predict he will give up on linux and the GPL and either retire or code for BSD (or a company). I don't see him continuing along with a GPLed project when he does not like the GPL, does not like the FSF, does not like the idea of free software and does not like Stallman.
All I know is that you called me a racist for disagreeing with the policies of israel. I am merely trying to point out that I have nothing against the semitic people. In fact I am all for the creation of a nation for the semitic people of palestine.
The vast majority of the people in israel are causasians from around the globe. Very few are semites.
BTW learning a language does not change your race. Neither does adopting a religion.
Next time you call somebody racist pay attention. I love the semitic race. I think they are great people who deserve better then they are getting from the citizens of israel who are occupying them.
It's israel that is anti semitic. It is israel that is killing the semites by the bucketload every year. I love the semitic race.
Tghanks for the tip. Postgres is indeed very extendable and very capable. It's just not that easy. Slony is so much harder to set up then mysql replication, slonyII is dead as far as I can see. No clustering in site either.
It's taken them a long time but postgres does have a nice windows installer. Now they need to make it easy to set up replication and clustering and get some nice admin tools.
Oh support for GUIDs would be cool too.
Well I am better then jeffrey dahmer and osama bin laden so that makes me ethical right?
The problem with comparing yourself to the worst of the world and patting yourself on the back for not being as bad as the most vile and evil person is that you end up being pretty vile and evil. You set low goals for yourself and you are likely to achieve them.
BTW I think the worst thing MS did ever was to fight SPF. We could have put a decent in the spam problem if MS had just accepted that standard instead of sabotaging it. That and the reltentless push and lobbying by MS for DRM are the two worst things MS has ever done.
"Because the Slashdot community, in general, is critical of anything Microsoft does not because it's objectively bad, but because Microsoft did it."
So what? It's just another corporation. People say bad things about all kinds of corporations. I have a friend who hates anything made by GM. He is constantly pointing out various GM cars and telling me what piles of shit they are. You know what I don't feel the need to jump up and down and defend GM. I just don't give a shit about GM the corporation and GM products. Who the fuck cares what anybody says about any corporation. It's not like they have souls or feelings to get hurt.
"Saying Slashdot doesn't have distinct anti-Microsoft slant is ridiculous on its face. One need look no further than the Bill Gates/Borg icon to see that."
I am just going by the moderation. Pro MS and pro windows posts get modded up to 5 more often then not.
As in any community there are watches, doers and what I call Nelsons who sit on the sideline making fun of people who do stuff and try to berate them. the people who write docs for photoshop are doers, we want to recruit them. We want to target them. We don't want to targe the nelsons who complain about the name.
Fox is anti democrat. They are against half of the population of america.
/. lean anti MS? I don't think so. There are a dozens if not hundreds of MS trolls, astro turfers and shills here on /. Take a survey of the highest ranked posts and you will see that most of them are pro MS. Pro MS comments always get upmodded especially if the take the edge of by saying "sure they are unethical but.....".
Slashdot LEANS anti MS (It's debatable and I'll get back to that) so they are against one corporation.
What's wrong with being against a corporation which everybody, even their defenders acknowledge acts unethically? Not one person who defends MS stands up and says "MS is a beacon of light and hope to the world" it's always "Sure they have done some crappy things in the past, but they are doing this one thing OK" or "sure they acted unethically but all businesses do" or "sure they acted unethically but they should not have been prosecuted because the anti-trust laws are bogus". Nobody, not even the most ardent defender of MS disputes the fact that the company is unethical.
Why do you get so worked up MS anyway? It's just another corporation, there are thousands of corporations. If I said Nissan, maytag, or rockport was a crappy corporation or made crappy products would you have a knipshiin about that?
Now does
Finally.
So what? I am sick of hearing this complaint. If you don't like people critizing MS then go to gotdotnet or any one of hundreds of web sites where people dance around singing holy holy holy about MS and Bill Gates. It's a big internet, there is room for everybody.
Get rid of the lawns. Lawn grass required over two inches of rain per week (or the equavalent in sprinklers) and does nothing. Plant native grasses, put in rocks, put in bark, or better yet plant some vegetables and feed yourself too.
"lol.. I see know, You weren't trying to advance a position of hate thru inacurate facts, "
SO are you saying that the majority of the people who live in israel are semites and the majority of the people living in palestine are not semites?
Last I checked that was not the case. Once again it is you who lack a grasp of reality.
The reality is that as a race the people living in israel are overwhelmingly caucasian.
Absolutely so it needs to foster a community that is willing and able to write plug ins and documentation.
I will say it for the umpteenth time. People who whine about the name of the project will never write documentation and will never write a plug in. They will never do anything but bitch 24/7 and reduce morale of the people who are doing actual work.
A few years ago they were attempting to sell hardware with oracle pre-installed too. Come to think of it they were also trying to sell managed oracle installs where they would maintain the thing.
Those didn't seem to go anywhere.
"Hating israel doesn't make you an Anti semite."
You are right of course. Only a tiny percentage of israel are semites. On the other hand the vast majority of palestenians are semites.
hating israel makes you a pro semite.
it used to be called mozilla and netscape before that. So what?
Look the reality is that the corporations have claimed ownership of the entire english language. No matter what word you think of some corporation someplace has it trademarked, copyrighted or patented. How many open source projects have had to change their names because some corporation threatened them. One day you will have to use something called cuntbuster because that will be only word left.
Anyway all of that is beside the point. Like I said I would rather have a smaller community of active users then a larger community of whining assholes. If namimg a project cuntbuster keeps away the do-nothing-but-complain crowd then I am all for it.
Come to think of it I bet the reason GIMP is scriptable but not pretty is because the name gimp kept the art fags away. To me that's a good thing.
I think firefox is a special case because an increase in share in the browser market will discourage people from writing IE only web sites. The photo editing industry does not have a similar situation. Whether GIMP has one user or a million only makes a difference in so far as those users help or hurt the community. I say a community of 10,000 active helping users is better then a community of one million whining ones.
The question is why would you want this guy to use GIMP? If he refuses to a product based solely on name without even bothering to learn anything about it he will probably hurt the community more then helping it.
Think about it. This guy will whine non stop at the developers. He will yell and scream at people for not helping him enough. He will fill the IRC channels with vitriol and he will not lift a finger to help anybody, will not file a bug report, will not write one line code, will not write one line of documentation, will not submit one icon or even an idea towards making anything better.
I honestly don't see why the GIMP community needs people like him. This is not a product, nobody is making money. Is the loss of a guy who laughs at the name and refuses to use the product a loss or a gain?
I say it's a gain, I say it's a huge gain because the guy is going to end up being a drain on the morale and the productivity of everybody else.
Too many people are content to steal a copy of photoshop and not enough people want to help.
/. hordes all day long I don't think too many people would be interested in joining such a project.
It doesn't help when all you get is grief from people who don't even use the product because "it's not photoshop".
I am shocked that it still exists really. When all you get is being pissed on by the
To be fair mysql was first to the market with technologies that many people care about. Mysql had replication, solid user level security, and full text indexing way before postgres. Not only that but even when postgres eventually caught up mysql take on these technologies made them easier to set up and maintain.
You have stated your opinions. Alas they are severely detached from reality.
"You can hate it all you want. There is no problem with you being an antisemite. "
If hating israel makes me an anti semite then israel must be a racist state. I can be a racist for hating israel only if israel is a racially pure state.
"if we knew a person knew where a nuke set to go off in the next 8 hours was planted in new york city (25 million dead- women, children, old people, pregnant folks), I would personally take the moral stain of doing whatever it took to get the information in time to neutralize the bomb."
Most people believe like you do. They somehow think that the people in gitmo are in posession of some knowledge that will save lives as soon as we torture them enough and get the answer. Alas most people are idiots. They don't realize that those people are tortured overseas in pakistan, syria, lebanon and israel. By the time a prisoner is brought to gitmo they have already gone through their first regime of torture and enough time has passed to obviate any immediate danger. To continue to torture them is simply sadism, doing it for pleasure. To continue to torture them years after they have been plucked from afghanistan is pure evil.
"No- not really even a smidgeon. It has a lot more to do with the fact that we are not islamic. They mean to convert us- peacefully if possible- and by the sword otherwise."
Well if that doesn't prove you are republitard then nothing does.
"No- millions of americans would not be comfortable with going over and shooting up a schoolyard full of children."
They would be very comfortable with dropping nukes on iran. We like to do our killing from the air.
"The instant that islam stops trying to kill us, we will forget the malice immediately. As long as they keep trying, we are going to get more and more aggressive."
Well lets hope this crusade works better for us then the last one did.
I tell you what. He is definately not living the life he wants to anymore. As I said in another post he has at least a decade if not two living in his current state. Thanks to the marvels of modern medicine it might be another three decades.
I guess what I am trying to say is that part of intelligence is having a longer term outlook, being able to predict obvious future events, and taking expert advice.
"Failed what test? the test to see if i was dumb enough to ingore history and repeat whatever you claim?"
The test where you were dumb enough to insist that not one human being was displaced as a result of the formation of israel.
And you also failed the test when you claimed that the holocaust had zero influence on the creation of israel.
Two for two. You are an idiot.
I know he is miserable now. Every day he lives with the inability to express himself, to be a spectator in life where he used to be a participant. He will live like this for at least the next decade if not longer.
I have thought about this for a long time and have come to the conclusion that he acted like a child who can't control his impulses. A child will spend any extra cash on candy unless they are thought and trained to save the money for later gratification. To him controlling his eating and exercising was too much effort and the benefits were too delayed. At every opportunity he chose instant gratification instread of doing something painful now to save himself misery in the future.
I do agree with you that he lead a full life, that he has a string of accomplishments that most people would find satisfying but I don't think that all somehow makes his present condition bearable. I know he is miserable, I see it every day.