I don't think that inpeachment will be a big issue. They will start a war with Iran and Syria in plenty of time for the election. These guys are war pigs remember. Not only will a war win them the election it will also enable them to have longer lasting erections too.
Don't forget that killing 100 thousand iraiqis and giving the green light to israel to go on a rampage in lebanon are great examples of being a compassionate conservative.
Oh and there was that whole "uniter not a divider" thing too.
Somebody wrote an article about the lies Bush told and decided Saddam was more honest then Bush. I wish I had the link...
Ms would never do that because they are about to go into the ad business themselves. I suppose they could block all ads except theirs but I think that would end them up in court in a jiffy.
They have been floundering a lot lately, it's a mystery to me why they are so keen on getting into the search and advertising business at all. Who knows what makes Ms tick anymore. As far I can see they gone insane.
Think about this. Does a bad person wake up one day and become good all of a sudden? Do they stop all the habits they built up over a lifetime and aquire new ones overnight? Can they change their entire worldview in a snap?
Of course not and neither can MS. As long as MS management stays the same they will not change their behavior. This is just some pablum put out there to appease the press and the gullable. Actions speak louder then words. Let's see how they behave in the next three months and then decide.
A responsible person doesn't swallow the republitard line of "cleaner air will kill our civilization" meme hook line and sinker.
According to the republitard theory countries with more environmental regulations should be poorer then countries without any environmental regulation at all. But wait!. Is that really true? Can you show a statistical correlation between enviromental regulation and strong economies? I haven't done the study but a quick perusal of the top 10 economies says that you can. The countries with stronger environmental regulations have stronger economies then those that don't.
Mmmmm. This must be another case of the facts having a liberal bias.
But hey those are just facts. Facts are useless, you are better off listening to Rush Limbaugh.
Again you are talking about the US. In other parts of the world "alternatives" provide a much greater percentage then the US. The US has cheap and plentiful coal so that's what we use. We just don't care about global warming and the future generations all that much.
In order for impeachment to happen you need a congress which cares more about the constitution and America then they do about their party and the next election. Either that or you need a congress that is run by the opposing party.
We have neither in this case so there will not be any impeachment even though a stronger case can be made for Bush then Clinton.
MS is bad the IT industry because it stifles innovation, buys companies just to kill them, hires people just to put them out to pasture, and destroys standards by wilfully disobeying them. MS is the foremost proponent of software patents and DRM. Finally it actively lobbies congress and other countries to try and make open source sofware either illegal or difficult.
If vista is bad then MS will make a little less money. Maybe that will decrease their influence a little. If that happens then it's good for everybody. If their influence is decreased at lot and their monopoly gets undermined then the price of windows and office will drop drastically and that would be even better for everybody.
Basically it all depends on whether you think MS is good for the IT industry or not. I don't think they are, I view them as a plague on the industry.
Just because this administration is unable to pass a law mandating cleaner emissions from power plants that does not mean others won't. Yes the republicans are very beholden to energy companies and this administration is doubly so. Furthermore this administration is openly hostile to any environmental legislation no matter how minor. Future administration will in all likelhood be more responsible then this one, not just for the environment but all around. I can't imagine any administration that could be more inept or stupid then this one.
"because the electricity to run the car comes from power plants. "
Not all the electricity. Not everywhere Not in the future.
Some electrity comes from nuclear and wind plants. In many areas of the world geothermal and dams provide significant amounts of energy. In other places wind energy is very popular. Who knows what the future will hold.
The rural population in those types of places is pretty small. If we could get most of the urban population riding in electric cars we would have made some serious progress.
"While it may be understandable for them to complain, I don't find it reasonable. "
Well good for you. God knows you are the final arbiter of what is and is not a reasonable complaint.
"I was in agreement with the poster who said, "you knew what you were getting into..." I agree with you about informing my clients to get better browsers, but it's not their browsers that matter it's *their* clients browsers that matter."
If you care about your clients then you would encourage them to get the better browser.
"I do not wish to be a browser evangelist myself nor do I want to have to tell my client to become one."
But you are doing that if you make your site IE only. You are dictating to your customers not only what browser they must use but also what operating system they must buy. Would you kick clients out of your store for wearing the wrong brand of shirt? Why would you tell them to go fuck themselves because they chose to buy a mac?
"Perhaps. But it's not as bad as people seem to construe and it's certainly not a surprise to any developers any more."
If the developers don't complain it will never get fixed.
"To use a stupid analogy: Is it reasonable for mechanics to complain about having to learn Ford *and* GM engines because the automakers can't agree on a standard motor? Sure the basics of each motor are the same, but each has it's own unique characteristics and design choices - just like browsers."
Yes it's reasonable. Every mechanic probably does complain about one thing or another about the manufacturers. You know what else is reasonable? It's reasonable for a mechanic not to work on one type of car or another. In fact most mechanics are specialized that way. Take a volvo into a honda dealership and they may very well tell you that can't work on it. In every town there are local mechanics who only work on Toyotas, saabs, subarus etc.
One a final note. Every mechanic provides advice to their customers. They may say "next time you buy a car go get a honda" or "don't ever buy a saab from the 1980s" or "this car is a lemon, you need to start thinking about getting rid of it".
So web designers need to take the same approach. Tell your clients they are driving lemons, tell them to get better browsers.
Firefox has a preloader. If you really can't wait then load the preloader and then it will act pretty much like IE. With the preloader it launches much faster then IE.
"Yes, because we all know that teens are clamoring to be associated with that haven of cool, the Wal-Mart Supercenter! "
Don't laugh. They probably are in bumfuck Oklahoma. You have to remember that walmart is the center of town for most of small town america. That and the dairy queen (don't get me started on dairy queen). In bumfuck Oklahoma all there is to do is to drink, fuck, and hang out at walmart.
"Walmart sells me toothpaste at a discount, it doesn't connect me to my friends. "
I believe you but that doesn't mean it's not for other people. Malls connect friends for most teenagers in the US. Walmart connects friends for most reitred people who ride around in winnebegos. It's true, look it up. These old folks park every night in a different walmart parking lot and get together.
For americans shopping is networking. Shopping is also how they define themselves. People (especially teenagers) rely entirely on products to form their self image. For them where they shop and what they buy is the most important thing in their lives. Often more important then their families or friends.
Walmart will probably succeed but most likely by appealing to the geriatric crowd. These people have a lot of time and a lot of free income too.
"Replace "unstable" with bloated or proprietary and I'll agree. The stability/BSOD arguments against Windows don't really carry that much weight any more."
That's right. Windows never crashes anymore. It also never needs a reboot anymore. Furthermore it's no longer vulnerable to any kind of hacks, viruses, or malware.
That was all in 98. Windows hasn't crashed since NT. Ever. Not even once.
"I have no problems asking any critial questions of MS; we're a company that buys their software, nothing more. Its not like if we speak bad about them they'll revoke our licenses or something."
Actually I think they do indeed reserve the right to do that. In fact they reserve the right to revoke your license any time for any reason at all.
"Could anyone possibly buy an SUV because the need to haul around a lot of people or possibly so the could use their daily car as a utility vehicle?"
Lots of vehicles can do that. Station wagons, vans, minivans etc.
"The purpose of the government is not to inflict punishment on a group of people because they don't like what they drive."
No, of course not. I am not saying that it should be. I am simply saying that if you bought an SUV, then killed somebody with it then you should be held responsible for it. What's wrong with personal responsibility?
"Remember this type of statement when the government comes to tax you, imprison you or charge hefty fees on you when you do something another group does not like."
Nice rant but I don't get it. That's what happens now. Why can't a gay person get married? Because some other group doesn't like gays.
But maybe that's a good thing. One thing I appreaciated during the current hostilities in the middle east is hearing the arab perpective. If it wasn't for blogs I would not have any chance at all to hear those voices. Same with the iraqi bloggers. I for one really appreciate that ordinary people can report to us what is happening around them. We all know by now not to rely on any government or large news organization to deliver the truth or the whole story. That's not to say the bloggers don't have their spin either but it's refreshing to hear that spin rather then the spin of the rich and powerful.
Would your wife and children prefer that you be miserable and making more money? I hope to god not. Your misery will rain on them every day when you come home all pissed off or distracted.
People can live on less money you know. Lots of people with wives and kids manage to live on salaries you would consider insulting.
I think that if you kill somebody in an accident and you were driving a small car then you should be charged with homocide or negligent homocide or something. If you were driving an SUV then you should be charged with murder. You chose to buy a huge car, you bought it because you figured it would save you at the expense of the other passengers in the car you hit.
I aleays thought they bought those cars so that there would be no survivors when they hit the smaller cars. It cheaper to pay off a dead guy then to pay for a lifetime of medical care and juries tend to give higher awards to injured people. Nobody is going to wheel a dead guy into the court to elicit sympathy but an injured child is a sure bet.
Those SUV are great for making sure the other car gets completely destroyed and the occupants killed.
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I don't think that inpeachment will be a big issue. They will start a war with Iran and Syria in plenty of time for the election. These guys are war pigs remember. Not only will a war win them the election it will also enable them to have longer lasting erections too.
Don't forget that killing 100 thousand iraiqis and giving the green light to israel to go on a rampage in lebanon are great examples of being a compassionate conservative.
Oh and there was that whole "uniter not a divider" thing too.
Somebody wrote an article about the lies Bush told and decided Saddam was more honest then Bush. I wish I had the link...
Ms would never do that because they are about to go into the ad business themselves. I suppose they could block all ads except theirs but I think that would end them up in court in a jiffy.
They have been floundering a lot lately, it's a mystery to me why they are so keen on getting into the search and advertising business at all. Who knows what makes Ms tick anymore. As far I can see they gone insane.
Think about this. Does a bad person wake up one day and become good all of a sudden? Do they stop all the habits they built up over a lifetime and aquire new ones overnight? Can they change their entire worldview in a snap?
Of course not and neither can MS. As long as MS management stays the same they will not change their behavior. This is just some pablum put out there to appease the press and the gullable. Actions speak louder then words. Let's see how they behave in the next three months and then decide.
A responsible person doesn't swallow the republitard line of "cleaner air will kill our civilization" meme hook line and sinker.
According to the republitard theory countries with more environmental regulations should be poorer then countries without any environmental regulation at all. But wait!. Is that really true? Can you show a statistical correlation between enviromental regulation and strong economies? I haven't done the study but a quick perusal of the top 10 economies says that you can. The countries with stronger environmental regulations have stronger economies then those that don't.
Mmmmm. This must be another case of the facts having a liberal bias.
But hey those are just facts. Facts are useless, you are better off listening to Rush Limbaugh.
Again you are talking about the US. In other parts of the world "alternatives" provide a much greater percentage then the US. The US has cheap and plentiful coal so that's what we use. We just don't care about global warming and the future generations all that much.
In order for impeachment to happen you need a congress which cares more about the constitution and America then they do about their party and the next election. Either that or you need a congress that is run by the opposing party.
We have neither in this case so there will not be any impeachment even though a stronger case can be made for Bush then Clinton.
MS is bad the IT industry because it stifles innovation, buys companies just to kill them, hires people just to put them out to pasture, and destroys standards by wilfully disobeying them. MS is the foremost proponent of software patents and DRM. Finally it actively lobbies congress and other countries to try and make open source sofware either illegal or difficult.
If vista is bad then MS will make a little less money. Maybe that will decrease their influence a little. If that happens then it's good for everybody. If their influence is decreased at lot and their monopoly gets undermined then the price of windows and office will drop drastically and that would be even better for everybody.
Basically it all depends on whether you think MS is good for the IT industry or not. I don't think they are, I view them as a plague on the industry.
Just because this administration is unable to pass a law mandating cleaner emissions from power plants that does not mean others won't. Yes the republicans are very beholden to energy companies and this administration is doubly so. Furthermore this administration is openly hostile to any environmental legislation no matter how minor. Future administration will in all likelhood be more responsible then this one, not just for the environment but all around. I can't imagine any administration that could be more inept or stupid then this one.
"because the electricity to run the car comes from power plants. "
Not all the electricity.
Not everywhere
Not in the future.
Some electrity comes from nuclear and wind plants. In many areas of the world geothermal and dams provide significant amounts of energy. In other places wind energy is very popular. Who knows what the future will hold.
The rural population in those types of places is pretty small. If we could get most of the urban population riding in electric cars we would have made some serious progress.
Cleaning up the emmissions from a hundred plants is easier the cleaning up the emissions from a hundred million cars. Cheaper too.
"While it may be understandable for them to complain, I don't find it reasonable. "
Well good for you. God knows you are the final arbiter of what is and is not a reasonable complaint.
"I was in agreement with the poster who said, "you knew what you were getting into..." I agree with you about informing my clients to get better browsers, but it's not their browsers that matter it's *their* clients browsers that matter."
If you care about your clients then you would encourage them to get the better browser.
"I do not wish to be a browser evangelist myself nor do I want to have to tell my client to become one."
But you are doing that if you make your site IE only. You are dictating to your customers not only what browser they must use but also what operating system they must buy. Would you kick clients out of your store for wearing the wrong brand of shirt? Why would you tell them to go fuck themselves because they chose to buy a mac?
"Perhaps. But it's not as bad as people seem to construe and it's certainly not a surprise to any developers any more."
If the developers don't complain it will never get fixed.
"To use a stupid analogy: Is it reasonable for mechanics to complain about having to learn Ford *and* GM engines because the automakers can't agree on a standard motor? Sure the basics of each motor are the same, but each has it's own unique characteristics and design choices - just like browsers."
Yes it's reasonable. Every mechanic probably does complain about one thing or another about the manufacturers. You know what else is reasonable? It's reasonable for a mechanic not to work on one type of car or another. In fact most mechanics are specialized that way. Take a volvo into a honda dealership and they may very well tell you that can't work on it. In every town there are local mechanics who only work on Toyotas, saabs, subarus etc.
One a final note. Every mechanic provides advice to their customers. They may say "next time you buy a car go get a honda" or "don't ever buy a saab from the 1980s" or "this car is a lemon, you need to start thinking about getting rid of it".
So web designers need to take the same approach. Tell your clients they are driving lemons, tell them to get better browsers.
Firefox has a preloader. If you really can't wait then load the preloader and then it will act pretty much like IE. With the preloader it launches much faster then IE.
"Yes, because we all know that teens are clamoring to be associated with that haven of cool, the Wal-Mart Supercenter! "
Don't laugh. They probably are in bumfuck Oklahoma. You have to remember that walmart is the center of town for most of small town america. That and the dairy queen (don't get me started on dairy queen). In bumfuck Oklahoma all there is to do is to drink, fuck, and hang out at walmart.
"Walmart sells me toothpaste at a discount, it doesn't connect me to my friends. "
I believe you but that doesn't mean it's not for other people. Malls connect friends for most teenagers in the US. Walmart connects friends for most reitred people who ride around in winnebegos. It's true, look it up. These old folks park every night in a different walmart parking lot and get together.
For americans shopping is networking. Shopping is also how they define themselves. People (especially teenagers) rely entirely on products to form their self image. For them where they shop and what they buy is the most important thing in their lives. Often more important then their families or friends.
Walmart will probably succeed but most likely by appealing to the geriatric crowd. These people have a lot of time and a lot of free income too.
"They probably got $10-20M in Microsoft stock. "
I would seriously doubt that. MS isn't stupid enough to hand out 10 to 20 mil to every tom, dick or harry.
"Replace "unstable" with bloated or proprietary and I'll agree. The stability/BSOD arguments against Windows don't really carry that much weight any more."
That's right. Windows never crashes anymore. It also never needs a reboot anymore. Furthermore it's no longer vulnerable to any kind of hacks, viruses, or malware.
That was all in 98. Windows hasn't crashed since NT. Ever. Not even once.
"I have no problems asking any critial questions of MS; we're a company that buys their software, nothing more. Its not like if we speak bad about them they'll revoke our licenses or something."
Actually I think they do indeed reserve the right to do that. In fact they reserve the right to revoke your license any time for any reason at all.
Nice job shilling though. Congratulations.
"Could anyone possibly buy an SUV because the need to haul around a lot of people or possibly so the could use their daily car as a utility vehicle?"
Lots of vehicles can do that. Station wagons, vans, minivans etc.
"The purpose of the government is not to inflict punishment on a group of people because they don't like what they drive."
No, of course not. I am not saying that it should be. I am simply saying that if you bought an SUV, then killed somebody with it then you should be held responsible for it. What's wrong with personal responsibility?
"Remember this type of statement when the government comes to tax you, imprison you or charge hefty fees on you when you do something another group does not like."
Nice rant but I don't get it. That's what happens now. Why can't a gay person get married? Because some other group doesn't like gays.
But maybe that's a good thing. One thing I appreaciated during the current hostilities in the middle east is hearing the arab perpective. If it wasn't for blogs I would not have any chance at all to hear those voices. Same with the iraqi bloggers. I for one really appreciate that ordinary people can report to us what is happening around them. We all know by now not to rely on any government or large news organization to deliver the truth or the whole story. That's not to say the bloggers don't have their spin either but it's refreshing to hear that spin rather then the spin of the rich and powerful.
Would your wife and children prefer that you be miserable and making more money? I hope to god not. Your misery will rain on them every day when you come home all pissed off or distracted.
People can live on less money you know. Lots of people with wives and kids manage to live on salaries you would consider insulting.
I think that if you kill somebody in an accident and you were driving a small car then you should be charged with homocide or negligent homocide or something. If you were driving an SUV then you should be charged with murder. You chose to buy a huge car, you bought it because you figured it would save you at the expense of the other passengers in the car you hit.
I aleays thought they bought those cars so that there would be no survivors when they hit the smaller cars. It cheaper to pay off a dead guy then to pay for a lifetime of medical care and juries tend to give higher awards to injured people. Nobody is going to wheel a dead guy into the court to elicit sympathy but an injured child is a sure bet.
Those SUV are great for making sure the other car gets completely destroyed and the occupants killed.