That's now all been taken care of by the Supreme Court. They can't hold an American Citizen indefinitely without at least having the ability to petition the courts as to their status.
Yes, it's decreased mass. But also a loss of rigidity. When you twist a floppy gyroscope quickly on it's axis, it's going to deform and cause a head crash...
btw an answer to the sig: I was at Ardis Hall drinking wine with Noman.
I swear to god I'm going to take a claw hammer to the next person who repeats that myth.
For the thousandth fucking time, that bill only applies to non-citizens!
Or anyone who is determined to be an enemy combatant. And the rules for being declared an enemy combatant is that the president says you are. So yes, it DOES apply to every single person, since anyone at any time can be declared an enemy combatant for any reason.
Ahem... enemy combatants are people captured that are waging war on the US while not in uniform, not Joe Six-Pack in Jersey saying what an idiot BUSH is.
Also, this was decided in 1942 by the Supreme Court in response to German Sabotuers
People, you need to actually go READ the freaking laws you are screaming about. Not just read some summary on a website that happens to inline with your political and personal beliefs.
Also, here's a fairly objective review of Hamdi's case. An American citizen detained as an enemy combatant.
Granted, NOTHING is 100% effective (other than the extinction of humans). However, define "sexually assaulted." In some crime statistics, this also means unwanted touching/fondling. That aside, it wouldn't happen if the assailant practiced abstinence... I know, heavy on theory. But, it is true.
Also, I guess I should have been more precise in what we were talking about. All this only applies to "consensual" sex (and yes I know abstinence == no sex). Also, how does sexual health education help out sexual assailants? Especially since, as far as I know, sexual assault is a highly UNhealthy sexual activity.
Yes, I know it keeps the assailant from spreading disease to the victim... But it also works in reverse... You're effectively telling the assailant how NOT to get caught. No disease transfers, No DNA evidence from bodily fluids, etc. (And yes I know there are other ways to gather evidence... but what if the victim is unconscious when attacked?)
Hrrrm... abstinence seemed to do well enough for most people I know that actually did it..
But, that's not the point I was making. I said abstinence is 100% effective and should be taught, but the practical application(sorry) of relatively "safe" sex should be taught as well. I've never had a problem with teaching about healthy sexual practices, I just think we shouldn't dismiss abstinence from being taught because it's "impractical".
As a side note... I know I hit a nerve when I see my rating swing from +5 insightful to -1 troll in a few minutes.
In all fairness to the troll. Most of the deaths in Iraq can be chalked up to people FROM iraq blowing the shit out of each other in an attempt to start a civil war.
The moral of the story is this: if you act like c***s overseas then people are going to strike back at you however they can. Even if it means flying a plane into a building.
1. US doesn't defend itself; it massively over-reacts and goes on a killing spree.
2. The US may allow prosperity, but it doesn't guarantee it. And not every other country is totalitarian.
3. I'll agree: the US can defend itself. And how!
4. Irrelevant.
5. Yes, the US enacts foreign policy in its own interests. And it dicks on the world in so doing.
6. Yes, I'n the US it is possible to make money. But again, that's no guarantee that you will.
7. The whole self-sacrifice thing is falacious and irrelevant to the discussion.
8. Israel? free? Tell that to the guy who blew the whistle on their nuclear programme. Prosperous? It couldn't survive without hand-outs from the US. Palestine isn't trading because Israel blockades it.
9. So, you're saying that it's ok for the US to kill innocents if they're in the way? So, next time, Dirty Harry should shoot the hostages and then deal with the villain?
10. The US is its own religion. It brainwashes each morning with the pledge to the flag. The worst thing you can do is be 'un-american". THAT's why you have a problem with immigration.
1.) 3000+ dead in the span of a few hours and we OVERREACTED?
2.) You can't guarantee it. To guarantee it, you have to have socialist/communist theory that actually WORKS.
3.) Agreed;)
4.) More or less, but a valid point
5.) And everyone else would do the same to the US if they were in the same position.
6.) See #2
7.) neither here nor there
8.) Ummm... State secrets tend to be punished harshly when revealed... regardless of the right or wrong. Ask Sadam's leaders what happens if you reveal a state secret
9.) No, that's not what he said. Although, the US does take the UTMOST care not to kill civillians. Otherwise, we'd just have carpet bombed Afghanistan/Iraq in the general areas where our targets were. No missing people by just a few minutes in that case.
10.)Actually, the pledge is completely voluntary. And name another country who doen't indoctrinate it's children to it's views. Also, that indoctrination you speak of starts at home with the parents talking to their children about what is right and wrong (despite what the far-left people want... hint, they want to indoctrinate the children WITHOUT the parent's consent.)
Sadly, this country has been hijacked by those that use knee-jerk reactions and fear as their tools to stay in power, and those of us who can think logically about the rather small threat that terrorism presents
Let me take a page out of the "hate bush" manual and turn it around... Just how many people should we allow to die in the US from military attacks on civilian targets before we do something about it? Also, what do you call knee jerk reactions? Gathering intelligence from overseas phone calls, bank records, etc?
Honestly, the people who really are seeking to bury the US (read terrorists), have our number. They understand that if you fight the US to a stalemate, use our liberal press to spout out all the bad things the US is doing and show how oppressed people over there are, the US citizens will tire of the fight. American's don't like losers or stalemates. And with the Press tying the Preisdent's hands by revealing classified programs that are LEGAL(and then the terrorists adapt), all we can do is fight to a stalemate.
abstinence instead of condoms in Africa to stop AIDS
Well, one of those is 100% effective and the other is not... And I think you know which is which.
and the rest of the world is your problem, that is if you want to stop them wanting to fly airplanes into your assets
Oh, and it's ALL our fault that someone got a bug up their ass about the US being "Satan" and in "defending the muslim world" decide to slam planes into building killing thousands of people. I'm sure the next thing you will say is that we brought it on ourselves for not buying off the pooer countries in the world.
Or 3... if you want to disintegrate your opponent/target.
The main wonder I have about the "stargate universe" MMORPG is how it will handle death (and if you can enlist Kawalski(sp?) to assist in some tough missions that require human shields). I'm hoping its more like UO then WoW.
Do they also have merit badges for not thinking independently? Or one for having your IQ reduced to a single digit and being converted to a near-mindless automaton?
Honestly, if you've ever tried to complete an Eagle Scout rating in the Boy Scouts (and had a proper Scout Master), you'd shelve that comment for being horribly inaccurate.
By the time you actually finish an Eagle Scout, you're an extremely resourceful and independent individual. With the ability to adapt, plan, and sucessfully complete many tasks that most non-boy-scout "you're all a bunch of automatons" people could never do.
First Aid, Camping, Archery, Fishing, Cooking, Orientateering, Leadership, Sense of Purpose, Moral Compass... Yeah, thesee are all indications of automatons. Next time you want to degrade an institution that actually encourages self reliance and critical thinking, think about what you can ACTUALLY do when there's no one to help you.
In the world of publicly-traded companies, a stable company that makes a great product and loyal customers but doesn't continue to grow is a very bad thing.
Only since the 1990's(and possibly the 1980's). Prior to this time, Public companies focused on building value INTO the stock and returning dividens. In those cases a solid company with good customers and steady revenue flow was highly sought after.
But then came the.COM bubble and the day-traders. These two factors combined into the idea of:
Hey, let's buy a cheap stock, tout it highly make it look like they are going to shoot through the roof, hope to hell people(day traders) run up the price, and then we dump it all and take the dumbasses' money."
Hopefully the current economic growth(and this seems likely) is swinging away from that mentality and we'll start seeing people being able to live off stock dividens again. One can hope.
Maybe it will be rigged to make the other OS run more crappy than windows, so that Windows looks like the better os... then again, how would you possibly do that!
Easy, make the "alternative OS" crash ever 5 minutes... instead of 10:)
If kids don't fall and get hurt, scraped up, bumped or bruised then they won't know what to do or how to deal with it as an adult. Damn liberal commies!
Minus the last sentance, this is actually a very wise statement. Children need to be protected from death and serious injury. They don't need to be protected from filing a lawsuit against someone who is watching them because the child falls down.
I have a hypothesis that much of the adrenialine-junkie, self destrcutive behaviour that has become a staple of American life is due in large part to overprotection of our children.
This is a clear example of people living in fear of lawsuits that award rediculus amounts of money to people who act stupidly on someone's property. I'm not saying all personal injury suits are fallacious, I'm just sayting that people are afraid of being bankrupted because someone (they have no control over) does something stupid.
People don't attempt to understand the issues and how the party proposes to solve them.
This is doubly difficult since trying to get the party's/incumbent's ACTUAL position and ACTUAL plan are damn near impossible since they won't specify it and reporters try not to ask it.
This also leads to another reason no on KNOWS what goes on in government is becuase we don't have a truly effective reporting apparatus. I'm sure you can watch C-Span if you'd like, but all you ever see there is more people just going on and on about how someone else did it wrong; how they are better; and never a plan on what they are going to do. Reporters, especially the political ones, need to get some back bone and ditch their bias. By that I mean:
Backbone: When a politician dodges your question... hound him for the answer...
Ditch the Bias: This goes for both left and right. Reports now editorialize more than they report on what is going on. Basically, when a reporter disagrees with the politician, they say how they dodged questions, and we couldn't pin him down to an aswer. When a reporter agrees with the politician, they laud him as a visionary, a man of the people, someone you can trust, etc. etc. etc.... And you still wind up with no real answer to the Question that should be asked of all politicians:
"What, in detail, is your plan to solve/fix/create X?"
If the politician won't answer that question in a direct and truthful, (And yes, "I don't know, I need to think about that." or "I'm not sure, I'll need to conferr with some experts before forming a plan" are answers) they don't deserver to be in that seat.
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That's now all been taken care of by the Supreme Court. They can't hold an American Citizen indefinitely without at least having the ability to petition the courts as to their status.
If you ever want to see what "real" control over a computer is, you'll have to start learning assembly.
Hey, it's all the Republican's Fault. Anything to do with segregation is always their fault!
"Ooops, we couldn't win in court. So, instead will say that we stemmed the tide on the abuse of our liberties."
What's funny is that what they aren't talking about is the millions of dollars they cost the taxpayers in legal fees on a case they couldn't win.
Thanks ACLU. Thanks for increasing government expenditures and taking money out of my pocket.
I swear, it's about time people got away from the "aww, we got as much memory as we need! No need to worry if this is way to big for our needs!
Yes, it's decreased mass. But also a loss of rigidity. When you twist a floppy gyroscope quickly on it's axis, it's going to deform and cause a head crash...
btw an answer to the sig: I was at Ardis Hall drinking wine with Noman.
People, you need to actually go READ the freaking laws you are screaming about. Not just read some summary on a website that happens to inline with your political and personal beliefs.
Also, here's a fairly objective review of Hamdi's case. An American citizen detained as an enemy combatant.
Or does this look like what you've always imagined tatooine really looked like?
Granted, NOTHING is 100% effective (other than the extinction of humans). However, define "sexually assaulted." In some crime statistics, this also means unwanted touching/fondling. That aside, it wouldn't happen if the assailant practiced abstinence... I know, heavy on theory. But, it is true.
Also, I guess I should have been more precise in what we were talking about. All this only applies to "consensual" sex (and yes I know abstinence == no sex). Also, how does sexual health education help out sexual assailants? Especially since, as far as I know, sexual assault is a highly UNhealthy sexual activity.
Yes, I know it keeps the assailant from spreading disease to the victim... But it also works in reverse... You're effectively telling the assailant how NOT to get caught. No disease transfers, No DNA evidence from bodily fluids, etc. (And yes I know there are other ways to gather evidence... but what if the victim is unconscious when attacked?)
Hrrrm... abstinence seemed to do well enough for most people I know that actually did it..
But, that's not the point I was making. I said abstinence is 100% effective and should be taught, but the practical application(sorry) of relatively "safe" sex should be taught as well. I've never had a problem with teaching about healthy sexual practices, I just think we shouldn't dismiss abstinence from being taught because it's "impractical".
As a side note... I know I hit a nerve when I see my rating swing from +5 insightful to -1 troll in a few minutes.
of a Galactic Porno? I mean, the thing exploded all over the Sun and her Sisters... No wonder they ran away.
Yep once again, it's all America's fault!
2.) You can't guarantee it. To guarantee it, you have to have socialist/communist theory that actually WORKS.
3.) Agreed
4.) More or less, but a valid point
5.) And everyone else would do the same to the US if they were in the same position.
6.) See #2
7.) neither here nor there
8.) Ummm... State secrets tend to be punished harshly when revealed... regardless of the right or wrong. Ask Sadam's leaders what happens if you reveal a state secret
9.) No, that's not what he said. Although, the US does take the UTMOST care not to kill civillians. Otherwise, we'd just have carpet bombed Afghanistan/Iraq in the general areas where our targets were. No missing people by just a few minutes in that case.
10.)Actually, the pledge is completely voluntary. And name another country who doen't indoctrinate it's children to it's views. Also, that indoctrination you speak of starts at home with the parents talking to their children about what is right and wrong (despite what the far-left people want... hint, they want to indoctrinate the children WITHOUT the parent's consent.)
Honestly, the people who really are seeking to bury the US (read terrorists), have our number. They understand that if you fight the US to a stalemate, use our liberal press to spout out all the bad things the US is doing and show how oppressed people over there are, the US citizens will tire of the fight. American's don't like losers or stalemates. And with the Press tying the Preisdent's hands by revealing classified programs that are LEGAL(and then the terrorists adapt), all we can do is fight to a stalemate.
and the rest of the world is your problem, that is if you want to stop them wanting to fly airplanes into your assets Oh, and it's ALL our fault that someone got a bug up their ass about the US being "Satan" and in "defending the muslim world" decide to slam planes into building killing thousands of people. I'm sure the next thing you will say is that we brought it on ourselves for not buying off the pooer countries in the world.
Or 3... if you want to disintegrate your opponent/target.
The main wonder I have about the "stargate universe" MMORPG is how it will handle death (and if you can enlist Kawalski(sp?) to assist in some tough missions that require human shields). I'm hoping its more like UO then WoW.
By the time you actually finish an Eagle Scout, you're an extremely resourceful and independent individual. With the ability to adapt, plan, and sucessfully complete many tasks that most non-boy-scout "you're all a bunch of automatons" people could never do.
First Aid, Camping, Archery, Fishing, Cooking, Orientateering, Leadership, Sense of Purpose, Moral Compass... Yeah, thesee are all indications of automatons. Next time you want to degrade an institution that actually encourages self reliance and critical thinking, think about what you can ACTUALLY do when there's no one to help you.
In the world of publicly-traded companies, a stable company that makes a great product and loyal customers but doesn't continue to grow is a very bad thing. Only since the 1990's(and possibly the 1980's). Prior to this time, Public companies focused on building value INTO the stock and returning dividens. In those cases a solid company with good customers and steady revenue flow was highly sought after.
.COM bubble and the day-traders. These two factors combined into the idea of:
But then came the
Hey, let's buy a cheap stock, tout it highly make it look like they are going to shoot through the roof, hope to hell people(day traders) run up the price, and then we dump it all and take the dumbasses' money."
Hopefully the current economic growth(and this seems likely) is swinging away from that mentality and we'll start seeing people being able to live off stock dividens again. One can hope.
They can gate into the "alternate reality" with guns and staves blazing...
! !!
Ohh, take that Mr. I'm-All-Bright-And-Shiny-in-My-Formed-Metal-Armor
Might make some of those stuck up archers think twice befor showing off their nice two fingers.
Also known as:
"The first one's always free"
I have a hypothesis that much of the adrenialine-junkie, self destrcutive behaviour that has become a staple of American life is due in large part to overprotection of our children.
This is a clear example of people living in fear of lawsuits that award rediculus amounts of money to people who act stupidly on someone's property. I'm not saying all personal injury suits are fallacious, I'm just sayting that people are afraid of being bankrupted because someone (they have no control over) does something stupid.
People don't attempt to understand the issues and how the party proposes to solve them. This is doubly difficult since trying to get the party's/incumbent's ACTUAL position and ACTUAL plan are damn near impossible since they won't specify it and reporters try not to ask it.
This also leads to another reason no on KNOWS what goes on in government is becuase we don't have a truly effective reporting apparatus. I'm sure you can watch C-Span if you'd like, but all you ever see there is more people just going on and on about how someone else did it wrong; how they are better; and never a plan on what they are going to do. Reporters, especially the political ones, need to get some back bone and ditch their bias. By that I mean:
Backbone: When a politician dodges your question... hound him for the answer...
Ditch the Bias: This goes for both left and right. Reports now editorialize more than they report on what is going on. Basically, when a reporter disagrees with the politician, they say how they dodged questions, and we couldn't pin him down to an aswer. When a reporter agrees with the politician, they laud him as a visionary, a man of the people, someone you can trust, etc. etc. etc.... And you still wind up with no real answer to the Question that should be asked of all politicians:
"What, in detail, is your plan to solve/fix/create X?"
If the politician won't answer that question in a direct and truthful, (And yes, "I don't know, I need to think about that." or "I'm not sure, I'll need to conferr with some experts before forming a plan" are answers) they don't deserver to be in that seat.