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Well user interfaces as a whole would include command prompt so no, I dont think UI is just knowing where to put buttons. UI Design that we are talking about is desiging graphical user interfaces so they are easy and actually useful to a end user and not just placing buttons and text to system data.
My problem was more of a wording problem, he didnt suggest the programmers spending more time focusing on the end user side of things, he said get user experts to come out of the wood work. To me that implied coders cant do UI period. I never claimed to be a UI expert, I design programs so they work best for me and for me CUI works. I would agree that designing this way would be bad in a commercial setting but OSS is not market driven its need driven and thus a side effect we see 'bad' UI. Coders can learn end user UI if they felt the need for it, but I guess they dont. Fortunatly for desktop adoption for linux companies are picking up desktop linux. Which to me means linux is now a product for them... and with product comes UI research.
"UI design (and more importantly human centred design) is certainly not an art, it is however a science."
I would agree that its a science, and sure good UI definatly adds worth, but I got the impression from the original poster that this is not something that can be learned...
"... hardcore coders generally don't make very good UI designers."(Original Poster)
I go back to my original point, it has nothing to do with if coders can do UI or not, its if they choice to make the effort to think outside their area or not. To think like a non geek. So its a motivation problem.
You you make UI seem like this mystical thing that only certain people can do. I think thats a load of crap. UI design is not a "art"...
OMG bob, you put that OK button in the perfect spot, and that label! Pure genius.
The only "problem" as I see is it, is the motivation behind the UI design. Geeks make code for themselves or other geeks. And programmers generally dont care about easy to use interface, atleast I dont. I will take a cui over gui any day. Now documentation is a whole other beast, I agree that most coders cant write documentation for a new user, they tend to talk over their head. But like I said this has nothing to do with UI.
Consumers are quickly losing what rights they have on products they buy. Some people on here have said to lobby congress against the DMCA. I am curious to if anyone has actually seen benifit from that? Lobbying congress as a individual may have worked in the 1900s but today if you dont got the money our representatives dont care. You may say that intrest groups are a collective of individuals trying to get to a common goal, but take a look at the amount of campaign donations high end intrests groups make (NRA).
Laws now go to the highest bidder. Welcome to a capitalist democracy.
Also, some have said we should be able to do what we want with things we buy, in responce people have brought up bongs and guns. These things are very emotionally charged, and are not very good examples.
A better one would be, 3rd party hardware. Ever buy a non sony memmory card? They are generally cheaper or have more storage capacity. Well what if sony put a lock on its machine that would allow only sony santioned electronics to be pluged in. You then would be forced to pay whatever the price they picked for their cards. Competition would be non existant.
The problem with this is, what if that locking out of competition was also used as a way of stoping pirated games. And that is the situation the legitmate modders find themselves in. They wish to back up their games, or make homebrew code, but they dont want to circumvent copy protection, unfortunatly how its designed one can not come with out the other.
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actually I believe the quote is "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Maybe we should start coming up with examples of fair use, some of these congressmen might be thinking, but why would you want to do that?
First one that comes to mind is, mod chips. If you want to write homebrew code, or just make backups of your games, without that its all not possible.
Well user interfaces as a whole would include command prompt so no, I dont think UI is just knowing where to put buttons. UI Design that we are talking about is desiging graphical user interfaces so they are easy and actually useful to a end user and not just placing buttons and text to system data.
My problem was more of a wording problem, he didnt suggest the programmers spending more time focusing on the end user side of things, he said get user experts to come out of the wood work. To me that implied coders cant do UI period. I never claimed to be a UI expert, I design programs so they work best for me and for me CUI works. I would agree that designing this way would be bad in a commercial setting but OSS is not market driven its need driven and thus a side effect we see 'bad' UI. Coders can learn end user UI if they felt the need for it, but I guess they dont. Fortunatly for desktop adoption for linux companies are picking up desktop linux. Which to me means linux is now a product for them... and with product comes UI research.
"UI design (and more importantly human centred design) is certainly not an art, it is however a science." I would agree that its a science, and sure good UI definatly adds worth, but I got the impression from the original poster that this is not something that can be learned... "... hardcore coders generally don't make very good UI designers."(Original Poster) I go back to my original point, it has nothing to do with if coders can do UI or not, its if they choice to make the effort to think outside their area or not. To think like a non geek. So its a motivation problem.
You you make UI seem like this mystical thing that only certain people can do. I think thats a load of crap. UI design is not a "art"...
OMG bob, you put that OK button in the perfect spot, and that label! Pure genius.
The only "problem" as I see is it, is the motivation behind the UI design. Geeks make code for themselves or other geeks. And programmers generally dont care about easy to use interface, atleast I dont. I will take a cui over gui any day. Now documentation is a whole other beast, I agree that most coders cant write documentation for a new user, they tend to talk over their head. But like I said this has nothing to do with UI.
At a certain amount of caffine before you overdose you begin vomiting, so its impossible to ingest enough to kill you via drink.
Consumers are quickly losing what rights they have on products they buy. Some people on here have said to lobby congress against the DMCA. I am curious to if anyone has actually seen benifit from that? Lobbying congress as a individual may have worked in the 1900s but today if you dont got the money our representatives dont care. You may say that intrest groups are a collective of individuals trying to get to a common goal, but take a look at the amount of campaign donations high end intrests groups make (NRA). Laws now go to the highest bidder. Welcome to a capitalist democracy.
Also, some have said we should be able to do what we want with things we buy, in responce people have brought up bongs and guns. These things are very emotionally charged, and are not very good examples.
A better one would be, 3rd party hardware. Ever buy a non sony memmory card? They are generally cheaper or have more storage capacity. Well what if sony put a lock on its machine that would allow only sony santioned electronics to be pluged in. You then would be forced to pay whatever the price they picked for their cards. Competition would be non existant.
The problem with this is, what if that locking out of competition was also used as a way of stoping pirated games. And that is the situation the legitmate modders find themselves in. They wish to back up their games, or make homebrew code, but they dont want to circumvent copy protection, unfortunatly how its designed one can not come with out the other.