...and then today's 12 year olds grow old, and begin squinting and spouting "What are you kids doing, sitting around that table talking? What's all this 'paper' stuff, and why are you writing on it with pencils? Goldurn it, when I was young we socialized and played real Role-Playing Games with other people online! Did you whippersnappers take my XBOX cord? I need to play some Halo! Oh, there it is, under my 50 Cent T-Shirt."
I agree. I'm tired of seeing books at the library, flipping tem over, reading the back, and then seeing that little white dove on the spine. Then I read the back again, and catch the subtle references to 'the power of light' or something dumb. Stop trying to convert people!! It's not cool! If you want people to listen to you, just be honest about what you believe, don't hide subliminal messages abut a big white god with a big white beard in our children's books.
If somebody kills you in an MMO, it's because they're a higher level than you. If they get to that higher level through no skill of their own, then they're cheating. Even if they just camp in monster-infested areas, killing stuff for experience, that's still wasted experience you could have gained had they not killed the monsters you were able to honestly get to without cheating.
Any way you look at it, it's just not a fair way to do things. It's also illegal, and not designed to be in the game, much like aimbots in first person shooters.
I think what he's trying to say is that children aren't a part of society, don't deserve the right to an education, not getting their asses beat, and not being raped.
I think he's saying they're like animals. Which, of course, don't matter.
I have no problems whatsoever if people want to sit around and play with cheat codes all day. I really don't. That's their business. What you have to realize is that we're talking about an illegal void-of-warranty. It's as bad as hacking in online FPSs.
Some people think it's a good revenue model. I disagree, but that's their business. I was playing a game called Achaea today, in fact, that lets you pay for in-game currency. If that's how they're calling it, that's how they're calling it.
They have a set of rules in place, and it's expected of everyone to play by these rules.
To say that it's dumb to not want to aid the chinese sweatshop gold-farmers and to not cheat in an online game is not the fairest statement, in my humble opinion.
As long as you don't PK or talk about how neat your character is and avoiding other players, that's fine. If you're PKing and killing other people's monsters just because you have a lot of gold, then you're cheating, and unfairly making the game less enjoyable for other people.
Here's what I wanna know: Why do WOW players put up with this stuff? Why don't WOW players just PK all the gold farmers? I'm sure a large enough guild could really take a dent out of their economy. Can you PK in farming areas, or what?
You know that guy? Everyone knows one. That guy you know who buys a brand new game and then immediately goes online and copies down all the cheat codes. Then he installs the game and laughs like an idiot as he decimates the computer with 10,000 archers, or unlimited ammo, or whatever else he can get. Don't you hate that guy?
Now, picture that guy, but willing to pay insane amounts of money to skip past the beginning and middle parts of an online game, and then acts like he's actually earned his right to kill and grief you, even though he doesn't know anything, and hasn't spent the time making friends and fighting monsters. That's what this is. People who can't tough it out buying their way to the top. If you cannot play, do not play. Do not pay people for status if you don't enjoy the game.
I consider it more like paying for a cheat code. Oh, good for you, now you've bought a level 60 character and can PK anyone you want. That makes it really fun for the rest of us who are trying to enjoy the game as it was meant to be played. If you don't like the game, stop playing. Don't drag everyone else's experience down by being that guy who bought a high level character or enough gold for something and then turns around and PKs people he doesn't like just because he can because he was lame enough to pay real money for virtual status.
I don't even use walkthroughs or cheatcodes in single-player games. It would be like living a lie.
Dear Mr. Max,
I don't abide by laws because I'm going to get in trouble if I break them. I abide by laws because I think it's the 'right' thing to do. I cut across streets. *gasp*! I'm a jaywalker. Of course there have to be jaywalking laws to stop people from walking around intersections whenever they want, but on a street with no traffic, it makes no sense for me to walk all the way to the corner, cross the street, and walk back.
I don't steal things because I don't think it's the 'right' thing to do. I don't kill people because I recognize the inherent wrongness in killing somebody.
I'm not going to let some old guy who inherited and cheated his way to the top to tell me what's morally right and wrong. I know it sounds pretentious, but laws are here to sway inappropriate behavior and to prosecute people in the rare case that them breaking the law bothers other people. For example, 'disturbing the peace' is very subjective. It's mostly used on annoying people who play their music too loud. So, no, I disagree with your view that people have to abide by all laws. What if the year was 1820 and there was a law stating you had to turn in escaped slaves? Would you do it? It's clearly an unjust law, in many people's opinions. Does that mean we could just choose to not abide by it? Should we decide to abide by the law, and turn in the escaped slaves, and then petition our congress-people to change the laws?
Your view of the constitution as a tool to oppress the people is kind of disturbing, sir. The constitution is designed to protect the people from the very rich few.
For years we've had to deal with rich people screwing with poor people. We've had to deal with the rich charging whatever they want for the goods they pay to manufacture. Well, now we have the chance to pay whatever we want for their goods. Of course we have to pay enough to get them to continue making the goods, but if I think they charge too much, and I feel they're making more than a healthy living, I don't have to pay them. If rich old guys decide how much I pay for working my ass off, I don't feel terribly bad for deciding what they recieve for doing nothing.
Also, you keep mentioning I should change the laws. Well, let's see... 1. I'm 17. I can't vote. 2. Since you're against violent revolution, because it's breaking the law, I can't go that route, according to you. 3. I can't run for president.
Okay, I'll tell you what: When the minimum age for running for public office and voting is abolished, I'll stop pirating stuff. Sounds fair to me.
Did you even look at the parent's post? It clearly stated you have to pay a small licencing fee to SGO every time you want to arm a bear. Talk about redundant questions.
It would work better as a phone RPG playable with other players. That way you could hire GMs like you would a phone-whore, and get other people playing too. You'd have to have an optional monthly-fee, though, or some people would really get into power gaming.
"I don't care how the freakin' room looks! Just give me a rundown on any monsters, treasure, or traps! No, don't pause to look at the notes! I'm not paying you $3.00 a minute to scribble on your notes and tell me about waterfalls!!"
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I wonder if that 7-year-old could go buy an R-rated action movie without a parent accompanying him.
...which is why they say, right there under the rating, what it's rated for, just like under the rating for a movie.
Take a look at this.
We don't need a new system. We need people who understand and utilize the current system.
...and then today's 12 year olds grow old, and begin squinting and spouting
"What are you kids doing, sitting around that table talking? What's all this 'paper' stuff, and why are you writing on it with pencils? Goldurn it, when I was young we socialized and played real Role-Playing Games with other people online! Did you whippersnappers take my XBOX cord? I need to play some Halo! Oh, there it is, under my 50 Cent T-Shirt."
I agree. I'm tired of seeing books at the library, flipping tem over, reading the back, and then seeing that little white dove on the spine. Then I read the back again, and catch the subtle references to 'the power of light' or something dumb.
Stop trying to convert people!! It's not cool! If you want people to listen to you, just be honest about what you believe, don't hide subliminal messages abut a big white god with a big white beard in our children's books.
I'm so sick of being told I'm going to hell.
*copyrights charging monthly fees for MMORPGs*
It's from the Flying Spaghetti Monster website.
An excellent read, if you're not offended by 'evilution'.
...but love is.
I don't care. It would be worth it.
suuuuure you did.
You're just trying to cover up your cache.
Excuse me, sir. I'd like to point out they had SmashTV on the list of games.
SmashTV.
Where do I sign up?
I didn't know it was satire.
I just thought he was crazy.
If somebody kills you in an MMO, it's because they're a higher level than you.
If they get to that higher level through no skill of their own, then they're cheating.
Even if they just camp in monster-infested areas, killing stuff for experience, that's still wasted experience you could have gained had they not killed the monsters you were able to honestly get to without cheating.
Any way you look at it, it's just not a fair way to do things. It's also illegal, and not designed to be in the game, much like aimbots in first person shooters.
I think what he's trying to say is that children aren't a part of society, don't deserve the right to an education, not getting their asses beat, and not being raped.
I think he's saying they're like animals.
Which, of course, don't matter.
One word: Libertarian.
Those guys don't even believe in laws. They're like anarchists, but with more chewing tobacco.
That's an operant conditioning positive reinforcement.
Rock on, Psychology 110.
I have no problems whatsoever if people want to sit around and play with cheat codes all day. I really don't. That's their business.
What you have to realize is that we're talking about an illegal void-of-warranty. It's as bad as hacking in online FPSs.
Some people think it's a good revenue model. I disagree, but that's their business. I was playing a game called Achaea today, in fact, that lets you pay for in-game currency.
If that's how they're calling it, that's how they're calling it.
They have a set of rules in place, and it's expected of everyone to play by these rules.
To say that it's dumb to not want to aid the chinese sweatshop gold-farmers and to not cheat in an online game is not the fairest statement, in my humble opinion.
As long as you don't PK or talk about how neat your character is and avoiding other players, that's fine.
If you're PKing and killing other people's monsters just because you have a lot of gold, then you're cheating, and unfairly making the game less enjoyable for other people.
Amen.
Here's what I wanna know: Why do WOW players put up with this stuff? Why don't WOW players just PK all the gold farmers? I'm sure a large enough guild could really take a dent out of their economy.
Can you PK in farming areas, or what?
You know that guy? Everyone knows one. That guy you know who buys a brand new game and then immediately goes online and copies down all the cheat codes. Then he installs the game and laughs like an idiot as he decimates the computer with 10,000 archers, or unlimited ammo, or whatever else he can get.
Don't you hate that guy?
Now, picture that guy, but willing to pay insane amounts of money to skip past the beginning and middle parts of an online game, and then acts like he's actually earned his right to kill and grief you, even though he doesn't know anything, and hasn't spent the time making friends and fighting monsters.
That's what this is. People who can't tough it out buying their way to the top.
If you cannot play, do not play. Do not pay people for status if you don't enjoy the game.
I consider it more like paying for a cheat code.
Oh, good for you, now you've bought a level 60 character and can PK anyone you want. That makes it really fun for the rest of us who are trying to enjoy the game as it was meant to be played.
If you don't like the game, stop playing. Don't drag everyone else's experience down by being that guy who bought a high level character or enough gold for something and then turns around and PKs people he doesn't like just because he can because he was lame enough to pay real money for virtual status.
I don't even use walkthroughs or cheatcodes in single-player games. It would be like living a lie.
Dear Mr. Max,
I don't abide by laws because I'm going to get in trouble if I break them. I abide by laws because I think it's the 'right' thing to do.
I cut across streets. *gasp*! I'm a jaywalker. Of course there have to be jaywalking laws to stop people from walking around intersections whenever they want, but on a street with no traffic, it makes no sense for me to walk all the way to the corner, cross the street, and walk back.
I don't steal things because I don't think it's the 'right' thing to do. I don't kill people because I recognize the inherent wrongness in killing somebody.
I'm not going to let some old guy who inherited and cheated his way to the top to tell me what's morally right and wrong.
I know it sounds pretentious, but laws are here to sway inappropriate behavior and to prosecute people in the rare case that them breaking the law bothers other people.
For example, 'disturbing the peace' is very subjective. It's mostly used on annoying people who play their music too loud.
So, no, I disagree with your view that people have to abide by all laws.
What if the year was 1820 and there was a law stating you had to turn in escaped slaves? Would you do it? It's clearly an unjust law, in many people's opinions. Does that mean we could just choose to not abide by it? Should we decide to abide by the law, and turn in the escaped slaves, and then petition our congress-people to change the laws?
Your view of the constitution as a tool to oppress the people is kind of disturbing, sir.
The constitution is designed to protect the people from the very rich few.
For years we've had to deal with rich people screwing with poor people. We've had to deal with the rich charging whatever they want for the goods they pay to manufacture.
Well, now we have the chance to pay whatever we want for their goods. Of course we have to pay enough to get them to continue making the goods, but if I think they charge too much, and I feel they're making more than a healthy living, I don't have to pay them.
If rich old guys decide how much I pay for working my ass off, I don't feel terribly bad for deciding what they recieve for doing nothing.
Also, you keep mentioning I should change the laws. Well, let's see...
1. I'm 17. I can't vote.
2. Since you're against violent revolution, because it's breaking the law, I can't go that route, according to you.
3. I can't run for president.
Okay, I'll tell you what: When the minimum age for running for public office and voting is abolished, I'll stop pirating stuff. Sounds fair to me.
Some of it isn't. You can avoid a lot of spyware if you simply read and don't agree to the terms on the EULA.
Did you even look at the parent's post?
It clearly stated you have to pay a small licencing fee to SGO every time you want to arm a bear.
Talk about redundant questions.
So the man has a sense of humor.
That doesn't make him a bad person, you know. He just enjoys the occasional joke now and again.
It would work better as a phone RPG playable with other players.
That way you could hire GMs like you would a phone-whore, and get other people playing too. You'd have to have an optional monthly-fee, though, or some people would really get into power gaming.
"I don't care how the freakin' room looks! Just give me a rundown on any monsters, treasure, or traps! No, don't pause to look at the notes! I'm not paying you $3.00 a minute to scribble on your notes and tell me about waterfalls!!"