Back in my day at college, we had to fight over the ASR-33 teletypes at 110 baud. Oh, I once found myself in a room that had a 1200 baud DecWriter, but that was a rarity.
Which MAC address? I have so many, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
(I actually 'own' a block of 256 MAC addresses that I got from someone who was allocated them for a research project, had more than needed, and was giving them out)
Many people use their college years to 'network.' 'The Suits' as we are known to refer to them spend their college years doing the above described things. However, they do it within well-connected organizations known as Fraternities. Then they move on into business, where the social aspects are more important than intellect.
The people who 'really do the work' are the kind of knowledge enthusiasts who never leave campus. They get advanced degrees in direct yearly sequences (never leaving campus between Bachelors and advanced degrees) and nestle in to become intellectual pod people.
There probably isn't a course called 'wireless computers' at MIT. Likewise, there isn't a course called 'PC Clone Building with Phillips Screwdriver.' You're thinking of two year technical schools. MIT teaches things like Communications Theory, etc.
How is it 'abusing the system' if you waste the time to call and it can't identify the song? You didn't get your song identification. You shouldn't pay.
I don't find voltage and timing diagrams for LCDs to be 'mysterious.' I know from personal experience, however, that they are complex and critical. And I know from personal experience that there is a very steep economoy of scale when it comes to LCD displays. You really can't feasibly put an LCD into a design without spending a LOT of money on tooling and layout, which can only be recovered by making a LOT of them.
LCD display prototypes are quite expensive, because the high pitch interconnections on LCD displays use exotic materials like custom kapton 'flex boards' or custom enclosures/brackets with 'zebra strip' interconnects. An expensive team of experienced mechanical/electrical designers are needed to make it all mesh together. I've personally seen the results when a small company, even one with deep pockets, tried to tackle their first display design on their own. Often the most practical solution is to go direct to the first circuit board layout from first schematics. With plenty of break-outs and patchability on the board. But that's expensive, not something an individual or small group is going to do casually at home.
As to 'being able to accomplish something technical'- there are a lot of things that one can accomplish. Probably, a very nice hand-crafted LCD display could be fabricated. In a one-off case, where there were many, many hours devoted to fabricate that single display. And it would have to be done by an individual who understood and had skill in many areas, both in the theory and interfacing, and in the extremely fine pitch wiring. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.
That's why every company hit with a C&D letter in the USA (There've been a few of those) has moved into compliance. Deciding to open your own code base gives you a lot more flexibility than having some judge TELL you what to open.
And that's why any company who isn't completely ready to become an entirely Open Source publisher, if they have competent legal advisors, will view GPL'd code as sort of a 'Nut Cracker' that will crack open their code base and give it to the world without compensation, to whatever degree their development staff makes use of any GPL'd code.
The GPL isn't an 'EULA' by the way, so you shouldn't say it's more permissive than any other EULA. Its a distribution license.
If the GPL is 'turned down in courts' you and any and every other entity who runs GPL'd code are ALSO denied use of it. The GPL assumptions are a 'web' that links together a lot of code, from a lot of different entities and individuals. If that 'web' legally disintegrates, there's more to worry about than 'Malcontent Mike can't run that program anymore, hahaha'. The legal 'glue' holding the whole GNU skyscraper up comes apart all at once.
But I'm speaking just as hypothetically as you are.
The FSF's lawyers have one opinion, the BSD bozos another,
That's pretty inflammatory language. But as I see you've taken sides with a pack of lawyers over the BSD community, we can all see you're a laywer, not a hacker.
'External' interfaces can and has been defined as 'anything that can be reverse engineered and tacked on.' People do it all the time in hardware when modding X-Boxes. There's no reason the same can't be done with software.
The code 'doesn't have to make sense' seperate from the GPLed code, any more than a little 8 pin 'PIC' controller has to 'make sense' when not plugged into an X-Box.
I suggest you, in the future, consider read the fucking links provided before replying.
So are you angry because:
1. You looked again at that bunch of little black boxes in your top right desk drawer.
or is it:
2. Your boss wouldn't buy you the dozen or so 'evaluation boards' (at $500-1500 a crack) you wanted to string together to make an awkward prototype of your idea.
or maybe even:
3. You're remembering how angry you got last time. You'd charted the whole idea out in Visio, but then when you went to talk to the techs in the lab they laughed at your notion that you could just 'string together some of those sample parts' for the cost of a few Vector boards and a roll of solder.
Perhaps you can provide a link to this 'manual' that I'm supposed to read.
You're going to need MUCH more than 'Radio Shack Equipment.' You're going to need equipment you can't even get out of the Newark catalog or from Digi-Key. You're going to need equipment that usually comes attached to a sales rep in a necktie. Perhaps you'll be lucky and be able to piece together what you need from some surplus dealer.
Just because the originals were small doesn't mean that the replacements have to be as small.
So you're planning on mounting each SO-8 package on an octal tube socket header? What are you going to do with the parts that have higher than an 8-pin count? And bear in mind that sometimes the tight spacing of SMD is inherent in the signal timing and path requirements. You can't just 'make it bigger' and expect things to work properly.
I'm asking because I have considerable experience prototyping and breadboarding surface mount circuits. There are solutions for discrete layout and small pincount parts. For medium and large pincount boards you HAVE to lay out a board and get a low quantity fabricated. Better budget a few thousand to the project, to get your first feasibility breadboard up and running. And that's for out-of-pocket, not the time involved.
Any license or agreement that you sign with a copyright holder gives you rights. That's the whole point in coming to an agreement. I wish people would stop acting like this is a wonderful and unique feature of the GPL.
In fact, if you are capable of soounding at all like you know what you're talking about you can get a couple of samples for the asking.
Okay. So now you've got a little black conductive plastic box. Inside it are a few tiny chips. They're either BGA or extremely fine-pitch PQFP packages. To do anything at all with them you either have to design and etch your own very-fine pitch board, then find someone really REALLY good to hand solder the chips on them, or you've got to order one of those $500 Namichi 'burn-in/prototype' sockets. Oh, and the Namichi socket has it's own fine-footprint pins. So you're gonna have to order a custom board anyway, but if you screw up your circuit, you can swap in one of the other chips without starting all over.
Or, you can leave the little black box with the chips in it in the top front drawer of your desk, to look at once in awhile.
In the 60's my grandpa made what he called a 'Ski-Doo' out of an old Studebaker. He made the frame out of wood, and used some sort of an old conveyor belt to make the track. It was pretty cool looking, but not terribly useful.
I think his project was more realistic than yours.
If you hate lugging around a 30 pound display and don't want to spend much, look into getting a 'Point of Sale' display. Those are the little bitty monitors that they put on cash registers. I keep a couple grayscale VGA ones around for just that purpose. Grayscale ones are almost free when you can find them. A color one shouldn't be a lot more.
As a joke, it's a cool display to swap in on a friend. Joe comes home from a night at the bar and his 21" monitor has 'morphed' into a little tiny 9" job.
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Back in my day at college, we had to fight over the ASR-33 teletypes at 110 baud. Oh, I once found myself in a room that had a 1200 baud DecWriter, but that was a rarity.
Which MAC address? I have so many, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
(I actually 'own' a block of 256 MAC addresses that I got from someone who was allocated them for a research project, had more than needed, and was giving them out)
Isn't IUPUI kind of a ghetto thing in many regards? Do Purdue and IU really send their best to IUPUI?
Just asking, cuz I'm new to the state. (sitting within arms reach of computer gear I bought at the IUPUI surplus equipment auction, actually)
Same as it ever was.
Many people use their college years to 'network.' 'The Suits' as we are known to refer to them spend their college years doing the above described things. However, they do it within well-connected organizations known as Fraternities. Then they move on into business, where the social aspects are more important than intellect.
The people who 'really do the work' are the kind of knowledge enthusiasts who never leave campus. They get advanced degrees in direct yearly sequences (never leaving campus between Bachelors and advanced degrees) and nestle in to become intellectual pod people.
There probably isn't a course called 'wireless computers' at MIT. Likewise, there isn't a course called 'PC Clone Building with Phillips Screwdriver.' You're thinking of two year technical schools. MIT teaches things like Communications Theory, etc.
How many products have you brought to market that had LCDs?
I've brought three.
I used to be able to accurately tell the difference between Mozart and Haydn, but it's been awhile since I tried to know if I still can.
How is it 'abusing the system' if you waste the time to call and it can't identify the song? You didn't get your song identification. You shouldn't pay.
Ring tones in general should be illegal.
It should be legal to shoot on sight people using them.
I don't find voltage and timing diagrams for LCDs to be 'mysterious.' I know from personal experience, however, that they are complex and critical. And I know from personal experience that there is a very steep economoy of scale when it comes to LCD displays. You really can't feasibly put an LCD into a design without spending a LOT of money on tooling and layout, which can only be recovered by making a LOT of them.
LCD display prototypes are quite expensive, because the high pitch interconnections on LCD displays use exotic materials like custom kapton 'flex boards' or custom enclosures/brackets with 'zebra strip' interconnects. An expensive team of experienced mechanical/electrical designers are needed to make it all mesh together. I've personally seen the results when a small company, even one with deep pockets, tried to tackle their first display design on their own. Often the most practical solution is to go direct to the first circuit board layout from first schematics. With plenty of break-outs and patchability on the board. But that's expensive, not something an individual or small group is going to do casually at home.
As to 'being able to accomplish something technical'- there are a lot of things that one can accomplish. Probably, a very nice hand-crafted LCD display could be fabricated. In a one-off case, where there were many, many hours devoted to fabricate that single display. And it would have to be done by an individual who understood and had skill in many areas, both in the theory and interfacing, and in the extremely fine pitch wiring. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.
That's why every company hit with a C&D letter in the USA (There've been a few of those) has moved into compliance. Deciding to open your own code base gives you a lot more flexibility than having some judge TELL you what to open.
And that's why any company who isn't completely ready to become an entirely Open Source publisher, if they have competent legal advisors, will view GPL'd code as sort of a 'Nut Cracker' that will crack open their code base and give it to the world without compensation, to whatever degree their development staff makes use of any GPL'd code.
The GPL isn't an 'EULA' by the way, so you shouldn't say it's more permissive than any other EULA. Its a distribution license.
Since you're spinning hypotheticals:
If the GPL is 'turned down in courts' you and any and every other entity who runs GPL'd code are ALSO denied use of it. The GPL assumptions are a 'web' that links together a lot of code, from a lot of different entities and individuals. If that 'web' legally disintegrates, there's more to worry about than 'Malcontent Mike can't run that program anymore, hahaha'. The legal 'glue' holding the whole GNU skyscraper up comes apart all at once.
But I'm speaking just as hypothetically as you are.
The 'open' one downlodable from whatever Free Software web or FTP site that is linked. The 'closed' one provided in the 'patch kit.'
Is that too complicated?
The FSF's lawyers have one opinion, the BSD bozos another,
That's pretty inflammatory language. But as I see you've taken sides with a pack of lawyers over the BSD community, we can all see you're a laywer, not a hacker.
Makes sense in that context.
'External' interfaces can and has been defined as 'anything that can be reverse engineered and tacked on.' People do it all the time in hardware when modding X-Boxes. There's no reason the same can't be done with software.
The code 'doesn't have to make sense' seperate from the GPLed code, any more than a little 8 pin 'PIC' controller has to 'make sense' when not plugged into an X-Box.
I suggest you, in the future, consider read the fucking links provided before replying.
So are you angry because:
1. You looked again at that bunch of little black boxes in your top right desk drawer.
or is it:
2. Your boss wouldn't buy you the dozen or so 'evaluation boards' (at $500-1500 a crack) you wanted to string together to make an awkward prototype of your idea.
or maybe even:
3. You're remembering how angry you got last time. You'd charted the whole idea out in Visio, but then when you went to talk to the techs in the lab they laughed at your notion that you could just 'string together some of those sample parts' for the cost of a few Vector boards and a roll of solder.
Perhaps you can provide a link to this 'manual' that I'm supposed to read.
You're going to need MUCH more than 'Radio Shack Equipment.' You're going to need equipment you can't even get out of the Newark catalog or from Digi-Key. You're going to need equipment that usually comes attached to a sales rep in a necktie. Perhaps you'll be lucky and be able to piece together what you need from some surplus dealer.
Just because the originals were small doesn't mean that the replacements have to be as small.
So you're planning on mounting each SO-8 package on an octal tube socket header? What are you going to do with the parts that have higher than an 8-pin count? And bear in mind that sometimes the tight spacing of SMD is inherent in the signal timing and path requirements. You can't just 'make it bigger' and expect things to work properly.
I'm asking because I have considerable experience prototyping and breadboarding surface mount circuits. There are solutions for discrete layout and small pincount parts. For medium and large pincount boards you HAVE to lay out a board and get a low quantity fabricated. Better budget a few thousand to the project, to get your first feasibility breadboard up and running. And that's for out-of-pocket, not the time involved.
I hear Apple sold more 'expensive sugar water', er, ah, I mean, 'iPod players' than Macintosh PCs in the last sales period.
Any license or agreement that you sign with a copyright holder gives you rights. That's the whole point in coming to an agreement. I wish people would stop acting like this is a wonderful and unique feature of the GPL.
Rock name:
Mae Ling Mak
(obviously, petrified)
No. Just the latest release of OS X is called Jaguar.
There are a bunch of names, for a bunch of versions, of OS X.
I wonder what they're going to call the next major version. OS Xi ?
Naw, they always put the i in front.
Oh, come on. It was supposed to get modded 'funny.'
Or is somebody out there pissed off because they got back a dogged-up iPod in their RMA exchange from Apple?
In fact, if you are capable of soounding at all like you know what you're talking about you can get a couple of samples for the asking.
Okay. So now you've got a little black conductive plastic box. Inside it are a few tiny chips. They're either BGA or extremely fine-pitch PQFP packages. To do anything at all with them you either have to design and etch your own very-fine pitch board, then find someone really REALLY good to hand solder the chips on them, or you've got to order one of those $500 Namichi 'burn-in/prototype' sockets. Oh, and the Namichi socket has it's own fine-footprint pins. So you're gonna have to order a custom board anyway, but if you screw up your circuit, you can swap in one of the other chips without starting all over.
Or, you can leave the little black box with the chips in it in the top front drawer of your desk, to look at once in awhile.
In the 60's my grandpa made what he called a 'Ski-Doo' out of an old Studebaker. He made the frame out of wood, and used some sort of an old conveyor belt to make the track. It was pretty cool looking, but not terribly useful.
I think his project was more realistic than yours.
If you hate lugging around a 30 pound display and don't want to spend much, look into getting a 'Point of Sale' display. Those are the little bitty monitors that they put on cash registers. I keep a couple grayscale VGA ones around for just that purpose. Grayscale ones are almost free when you can find them. A color one shouldn't be a lot more.
As a joke, it's a cool display to swap in on a friend. Joe comes home from a night at the bar and his 21" monitor has 'morphed' into a little tiny 9" job.