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Mandrakelinux 10 Official Released
boklm writes "Two months after the Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community release, the enhanced and polished 'Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official release' has been announced. Download ISOs are available today for Club members and packs are also avaible on MandrakeStore."
As Shipud puts it, "USB2 support... vive 2.6.3 !!"
I need Mandrake ISO's but I don't want to pay to be in the club. Where can I get some?
I knew those damn Microsoft advertisements would crash Slashdot sooner or later!
But I don't ever terminated the beta version download! Damn 2GB download, now I need to restart it again :/
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And did slashdot go offline in the past half hour? Doubtless someone has mentioned it already...
Will they offer delayed ISOs for the masses? Preinstalled Nvidia drivers, Flash etc. is a nice thing, and I can wait.
Installation was a breeze. So far USB2 support is not bad, my USB2 HD is working as it should. Thats all I have to report, but I like this version much better than 9 so far.
I wonder if they were testing Mandrake Linux 10?
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(O.o) This is Bunny. (> <)
Mandrake is just trying to trick people into thinking that it's OS X. It'll never work! Mandrake doesn't come with white spots!
The slashdot crew was installing the new Mandrake on all their servers at once.
I did, must've been /.ed
Ask 8 slackers a question, get 10 awnsers (a citation, but I can't remember from who)
The MandrakeClub forums have been burning up with flames regarding the Mandrake mirrors being totally fucked, and the download "mirrors" actually being links to bittorrents. I'm wondering if that will hurt thier business so soon after getting out of bankruptcy.
Congratulations, you're the 500th person to say that. YOU WIN A FREE PONY.
Repeal the DMCA!
Maybe it linked to itself? Major Ouroboros moment there!
In that case, I suggest you use a hammer instead of mandrake 10
I had to turn on CNN to make sure the North Koreans hadn't nuked Des Moines!
But why couldnt they squeeze in 2.6.4 at the time they were getting ready to relese the ISOs'? I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software. I use Gentoo, primarily because I think portage (I also use FreeBSD ;)) is the best thing since sliced bread. I also have the 2.6.5 kernel thanks to portage, and USB 2 support is better then ever.
I really think Mandrake, LLC (or what is it?) should concider using a different package/software manager in future releases. This gentoo forums post even describes how to install the superb portage on other distros.
Anyway, someone feel free to correct me or mod me down.
I have to know, did you actually count?
All the reports I've had from people who tried MDK 10 is that you should stick to 9.2 for now, that it's not as good and/or not ready for prime time.
That doesn't really surprise me actually : most x.0 releases of RedHat were crap too usually. In fact, generally speaking, one should stay away from brand new major releases of anything, until they get a chance to mature in the next minor versions.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
..heh heh, no lie, slashdot goes down, then my gnomedesktop froze, then I lost my landline connection, within like a minute or so! Man, I whipped on the shortwave to see if I should duck and cover or what!
Is there any kind of objective review of these two ?
I'm trying to decide on one to distribute locally.
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Slashdot was down so some geek finally had time to do the work necessary for this release. Thank you Slashdot for helping us out!
MDK10 is still full of quite serious bugs, I cannot believe they are putting it out now.
I'm sure glad *you* got modded down.
Can't you tell by the version? I'm not aware of any distribution which has a Release > 4 that's not whack =)
The problem comes when you rely on the package manager to take care of stuff you ought to take care of yourself (my biggest beef with Gentoo).
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I downloaded the 3 ISOs for Mandrake 10 Community when it came out, and kept up with the updates throughout the next few weeks. I had it installed on an Asus L3C laptop that dual booted between XP and Linux. Here's my experiences:
1. Install: rocks. Take note Linux Distros, this is how things should happen, enough configuration available, but simple enough to let it go and go watch Family Guy instead.
2. Boot: One major issue, every time I booted it would alternate between thinking my Orinoco gold pcmcia wireless card would be not present, or thing a new one had been put in and try to reinstall it, this was a real pain the in ass, and was the major reason Mandrake 10 got booted for a second time (9.2 is no longer on my good list either) from this laptop. Maybe this distro is just better for desktops.
3. Usage: KDE 3.2 is nice, I like it, but quite frankly, I think I'm still a Gnome person. Also, if all the drak tools worked correctly all the time, I wouldn't have a problem with Mandrake having their config files all over the place, but tweaking config files by hand just isn't a good thing to do with this distro, and therefore some things just don't work properly (drakconnect!).
Overall, Mandrake is a nice distro, and is great for people new to Linux, but for more intermediate and advanced users, there's better things out there. Quite frankly, my laptop runs really really well using Slackware 9.1, Kernel 2.6.5, Dropline Gnome 2.6, and Swaret (using slackware-current) to automate the upgrade process. Yes, you have to get your hands dirty with Slackware sometimes, but at least things work like they're susposed to, and things that aren't there can be easily installed, and personalized shell/perl scripts are finally reality for those who want full control of their machine.
Don't misunderstand me, I think Mandrake has a ton of potential and I really want to see them succeed, it just still needs more polish. But compared to Fedora and SUSE, I think Mandrake is the best jumping in point for users who have never touched Linux before.
ce n'est pas un Sig.
I downloaded the Mandrake 10 CDs that were released about a month ago. The install went ok, but I was surprised that it was impossible to go "back" after most decisions. Upon booting the installed OS, normal users could not login to their graphical desktop. Trying to do so caused the system to attempt to run KDE... but then the screen flickered and returned to the KDM login prompt.
...never would have thought that Debian would be easier to install than Mandrake. Then again, Linux distros are changing very rapidly. The moral of the story is to be open minded and try out other distros.
However, root could login, but KDE was behaving very strangly. I even tried to make a couple new accounts to try again with normal users. Still, only root could login to KDE. I then tried to run urmpi so as to update the system, but it only returned cryptic errors.
So I was said to myself "this is crap, next"!
I then decided to give the latest beta of Sarge a try (beta 3). Sure the installer wasn't has pretty looking as Mandrake's, but it was an easy install... and better yet, the resultant install actually worked.
uhm, are you just stupid or what?
try mandrake update. its easy. painless. simple. a monkey could do it.
if yer a little more clueful, try urpmi.
mandrake has all the package managers that redhat has, and all the package managers that gentoo has, and all the package managers that debian has too.
and some more.
get a clue. try it. its easy.
and to those people who say its not stable, wtf are you smoking? can i get some?
mandrake 10 "just works"...
According to the Mandrake Linux Users Club Page, among other things members of the club are entitled to:
(emphasis in original). Thus it appears that at least one of the differences between Communty and Official is that the latter contains proprietary software and drivers that need not and cannot be distributed pursuant to the GPL or other Open Source license.
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I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software.
You mean like "MandrakeUpdate"? Or from the command-line:
urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto --auto-select
Just be sure to specify a good update source first, because the initial selection (at least in 9.X) are pretty bogged down. The updates are mirrored all over the place though.
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Anyone got a link to a .torrent?
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Ahemm... Ever heard of urpmi? I myself have not a long background with Mandrake, but for the latest month that I've been using Mandrake 10, I've found urpmi to be rather satisfactory (although the gui to it isn't quite on the level synaptic is for apt). It handles dependencies, repositories are easy to setup and it does its thing. Although the mysterious meddling they've been doing with the mirrors quite infuriated me (and a lot of other Mandrake users). So, try doing "urpmi --auto-select" and you'll find updating the whole system rather easy...
I thought Mandrake 10 Community was final.. i dled it last month and am using it.. how different is this release? I'm new to linux so i wont be able to upgrade ill just wipe and install fresh but i dont want to, i got everything the way i want it. waaaaaaa
Mandrake 10 announce, just after slashdot goes off line. I guess that they were updating the system.
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The "Community" is more like an advance release candidate. It was patched, but fixed, and became the Official.
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
I am a silver member. I have been for some time. I am currently running 10.0 community on several of my systems so that I could at least help debug. Now, it appears that a silver member will only get you a desktop, not the real core. No APache. No hylafax. No kolab. No DB (postgres or mysql). Nothing.
Is there anybody here from mandrake who can help explain why it appears that those of us who helped bring you out of bankruptcy are suddenly being screwed?
I will be downloading it, but if the web page was correct about this, then I will be canceling the membership and turning 10 families on over to a different distro. Hopefully, it it just a screw up in how things are presented.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
That's not the Official version you moron.
Yes.
>I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software.
Hmmm, Mandrake has had MandrakeUpdate for every release that I know of and then there's the command line thing called urmpi or something like that.
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That is what urpmi is all about isn't it?
> I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software
What is wrong with urpmi? Oh, the fact that you don't get the newest revision of all software as soon as it is released as source? Then try using the Cooker, but don't complain about stability.
There is a reason why there are point releases.
> But why couldnt they squeeze in 2.6.4 at the time they were getting ready to relese the ISOs'?
Maybe because they want to test the components before releasing them. And it is not like it is a vanilla 2.6.3 kernel. I'm sure there are several bug-fixes applied from the later releases.
"Between strong and weak, between rich and poor [...], it is freedom which oppresses and the law which sets free"
er, BUG fixed, sorry.
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
I just signed up for the Standard plan. Now I find out, even though I'm a mandrake club member, I can't download some ISO's. Only Silver and higher can. And the ISO's I get are the public release version. How freaking ABSURD!
I'm calling my credit card and reversing the charges.
The torrent files are ready, silver members and above may download the 3 first ISOs of the PowerPack (PWP) of that release (+ 2 CDs Bonus), standard members may get the 100% GPL 3 ISOs of the download (DLD) edition (+ 1 CD Bonus).
Members with a Gold membership will get the 3 PowerPack+ ISOs and 4 CDs bonus.
Corporate members will also get the DVD ISO of the PowerPack+.
I can't get the thing to install since the CD insists that the CD isn't in the drive right after it booted from it(The erratta notes say try booting from CD2, no joy yet). So I can't even tell if 10.0 is any good or not since it refuses to install. 9.1 was fine for the install, if a little flaky in operation itself.
In small backlash, office girls around the world report increase in bad flirting by guys with dorky hair cuts.
Meanwhile, Microsoft Super-Secret Tracking Server Explodes. "It appears that everyone opened Minesweeper at once", claims Steve Ballmer, "and all those Windows machines 'phoning home' about the application launch was just too much for our server to take."
"We were damn lucky that Solitaire launches are sent to a different tracking server", he added.
I've found that my posts don't format quite right w/o a sig.
I upgraded to Mandrake 10.0 Community on my laptop about 2 weeks ago. The install was smooth but the touchpad was extremely over sensitive. I had to go back to 9.2. I'm running 10.0 on a desktop/server now and it works great. About the only valid argument against Mandrake would be the size of the install with all those automated goodies. I'll probobly grab the stable 10.0 ISOs once the demand dies down in a month or so.
Right now they are heavily overloaded. As a side note, you can skip by clicking "I'm a community member or plan on joining soon." But I hope you find it worth your while to support Mandrake. A lot of work went into this distro and I'd hate to see them go back into the red.
-KS
On a just-barely-related note, for those who like portage, but hate compiling, I recommend Arch Linux. Very nice.
The 10.2 version will have most of the bugs ironed-out (before they come out with 11.0). The .0 versions are always a bit whack.
Meh.
Fair enough, I did not know about urpmi before Imoved to Gentoo. I guess this wont stop the next buntch of posters from telling me to OMFG URPM!II! ROLFLAMO, get a life.
costs more than OSX "Suggested Retail Price: $84.90 USD/79.90 EUR"
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Did this experience cause you to smell bad, become extremely hairy, and develop a Napoleon complex?
I'm trying a few Linux distros out after 2+ years on FBSD and, when necessary, Windoze. Basically I'm doing the whole drop-in-replacement-for-windoze test, where I try and do everything the way a silly little GUI user would do it. Mandrake 10.0 Community was very nice to me overall. Nice to look at, I liked the programs, could do almost everything that M$ let me do just as easily, which is the key to breaking their backbone of abusive power.
I just gave up on it though when I wanted to install the ssh.com client and the box kept rebooting during the compile. It also randomly rebooted previous to that, but not enough to make me leave. It was a beta OS though, so I'm hopeful and optimistic now that the real version is out.
My goal is to get my wife (hates computers, Psychology major) onto a Linux box for her school career which REQUIRES that things be as easy as windoze. Note, I have no idea if this distro would make a good server, that's not what I'm looking for.
or debian. apt-get install packagename
couldn't be easier.
I know you used a script.
With bugs.
Whaddaya think google is?!!!!
"Information just wants your credit card #".
Netcraft is your friend.
If you installed Mandrake and erased it before finding out about MandrakeUpdate or urpmi, then you can't say you "tried Mandrake" and be honest. You didn't try out Mandrake. You tried out the Mandrake installer....big difference.
i was looking at some of their product material on their web site and came across this page.
i was expecting those little thumbnails to enlarge to larger screenshots - but sadly they don't appear to. for a company that appears to pride itself on the visual appearance of it's distro i think they let themselves down very badly by the presentation and architecture of their web site.
so my point... it's all well and good to invest large amounts of time and money into bringing a good (from some of the threads that assumption appears debatable!) distribution to market and then not investing in the actual product marketing. personally i didn't feel compelled to even look at the product based on their site...
1. My Mouseman Logitech cordless optical mouse was virtually uncontrollable on Mandrake, despite tweaking the settings for about half an hour to no avail.
2. Installing programs lead to conflicts and dependancies and almost invariably it took me up to an hour to install one program, if I got it to install at all.
So: Has driver support increased and has a nice simplistic installation add/remove method been created? That's what I need.
Corporations: your universal scapegoat for all society's ills.
The missing information is only in your head.
cp /boot/oldconfig-2.6.3 /usr/src/linux-2.4.5 && make mrproper etc.
:-)
It's probably not a good idea to use a 2.6 config with a 2.4 kernel (not to mention that 2.4.5 is REALLY ancient).
Yeah, I know it was a typo.
The only reason we have the rights we have is that people just like us died to gain those rights. -- Cheerio Boy
cp /boot/oldconfig-2.6.3 /usr/src/linux-2.4.5
:p
Um, wouldn't moving from 2.6.3 to 2.4.5 be, like, a really silly thing to do?
Not to confuse you with the various intricacies of software development, but before software becomes production- it is alpha, beta, and release candidate. Guess which one you were using? Did you report the bugs? Dumbass say what? No.. alrighty then.
"Mandrake official released" ? They should just thrown away the key.
Could someone here post a review of Mandrake 10 Official that has acutally used it?
For a point of reference, Community=BETA Official=FINAL.
All I have seen or month old posts of how much the beta sucks. Any new information on the actual topic of discussion would be helpful.
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Challenge not my vocabulary...
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
A bit OT - but still related...
A couple of days ago I DL'ed the Mandrake 10.0 Community ISO's.
I need to be able to dual boot with Win2K - but the NTFS partition fills the whole harddrive (40Gb).
I have ample free space, but the Mandrake installer won't downsize, only upsize, my NTFS partition. I thought that you could resize both ways ?
Any pointers would be appreciated greatly
TIA
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great linux is catching up.. it has usb2 support !
and for those cocksmokers who wanted me to play and compile my kernels or let me do all the work and not have a distro that does everything for me... get f#$*(#$*(.... some workers actually dont have time to play with shit like that.. management wants to see results in the most little time possible not have employees do self productive activities and productive activities that would benefit the corporation.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/Mandrakelinux-1 0.0-Community.torrent
In a nutshell, Mandrake is for people who want to use Linux for their needs and optionally learn about Linux while doing so, and Debian is for people who want to learn Linux for their needs, and use it while doing so.
You can take a command-line, stripped-down approach to Mandrake, and you can take a "I just wanna play games" approach to Debian. However, Debian tends to be more aesthetically utilitarian while Mandrake is primarily geared towards Desktop use.
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... last night I noticed the net starting to get screwy, and I posted on it in another forum. I checked the net traffic report site, the usual security places,looked just marginally "wrong" to me, but not earth shattering like blaster yet, just... but it's jist weird, it "felt" wrong to me. It still does. All I can think of is that all the latest bugs plus the cisco vulnerabilites then the microsoft admitting to all the new vulnerabilites have given the mad haxors free reign and it's starting to show. Besides that, I don't know. We have the other article about the university linux and solaris boxes being tageted, perhaps that is what is happening at your college/area?
For everyone that is running 10.0 CE and wants to upgrade: urpmi.removemedia -a (clears urpmi setup) then urpmi.addmedia main ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/m andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/i586/Mandrake/ RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/m andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/contrib/i586/ with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
urpmi.addmedia --update updates ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/m andrake/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz
urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.pcds.ch/pub/plf/mandrake/10.0 with hdlist.cz
and finally...
urpmi --auto-select
done ;)
hmmm... did you just try to install the packages first ? There is no such thing as a "desktop" distro or a "server" distro for Mandrake...
Ok, you need to check the group of packages saying "Databases" to have the databases (like postgres) installed, it may not install MySQL by default, but if you go in your Mandrake Control Center, you can actually install that software (it even tells you which cd to install).
By the way, software works better if installed... ;-)
And I'm using a Mdk 10.0 Community to tell you this (yes, I have mysql, apache, .... all installed).
Sounds like your disk was full. So KDE login could not create necessary files and failed.
There is a reserved amount of storage for root: so root had no problems.
Out of disk space errors tend to be ugly and confusing. That's why root gets an iron reserve for fixing things.
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Idiot moderators... that's the old community edition
slashdot == ghey
* OSDN-owned Slashdot thinks its niche opinion represents the majority of the world. This is a result of people visiting every day and buying into the groupthink. Nobody outside of Slashdot knows or cares about "Linux," "RIAA", "M$," or anything else Slashdotters think is such a huge issue in today's society. Go to a mall or coffee shop sometime and see what people actually talk about.
* Speaking of OSDN--it's a Linux company...that owns a "tech news" site...that posts news stories negative toward competitors like Microsoft. If a Windows company or even Microsoft itself owned a "tech news" site and posted anti-Linux articles all the time, everyone would be up in arms. But with OSDN, it's a-okay.
* Slashbots think people don't like the music coming out these days, which is the cause of the piracy. Never mind that if people didn't like the music they wouldn't be pirating it, most Slashbots--again, this goes back to the niche opinion thing--don't realize that most people these days love the music coming out and want to hear all of it. Probing around, you discover that Slashdot is made up of nerds and fogies who listen to things like The Who and Blind Guardian and techno--not what mainstream society enjoys.
* The inevitable result of all this is a world in which nothing can be profitable because people simply pirate free copies. Is that really what Slashbots want? OSS and free-ness in general reminds me of the hippie era of the 60s--idealistic socialism that only exists because of the surrounding capitalism around it that provides the environment for it to exist. We all know what happened to that idea.
* Slashdot editors are abusive. We all remember The Post. It's amusing the editors never mention the issue. The worst editor is michael, who will mod you down, insult you for your post count, and post unprofessional color commentary along with the article. This is the same bizarre person who cybersquatted Censorware for years--even as Slashdot posted articles negative toward cybersquatting! Michael played it off like he was some sort of stalking victim, which made it all the more bizarre.
* Somehow, user-ran executables are always a "New Microsoft Hole" (actual article headline). Meanwhile, LinuxSecurity [linuxsecurity.com] posts weekly security advisories for all the Linux distributions. You never, ever, EVER see any of these mentioned on Slashdot--bizarre things like arbitrary code execution via MPlayer.
* Microsoft is supposed to be some sort of non-innovative rip-off artist. Meanwhile, the same people posting those comments do it through KDE with taskbars, sidepanels, start menus, similar print dialogs, and an integrated web/filesystem browser. Slashdotters--ripping people off then criticizing those who came up with the ideas in the first place.
* Linux is "ready for the desktop." This is the yearly uttering since 1998. Never mind that there is STILL no binary installation/uninstallation API for desktops, you can't come home with a printer and a CD and stick it in to get an Autoplay menu that lets you set up the driver. Somehow, Linux is just magically supposed to be ready--that is, if someone else sets it up for you and you never change or add your hardware or software and doing nothing else but check e-mail and browse the web. Conveniently, this includes grandmas, so people can post their grandma-using-Linux stories as "proof."
* Corporate-owned, subscription fees, banner ads, reposts, and complete falsehoods. Remember when Slashdot was a great tech news site for nerds? Before the point of the site was to have an anti-RIAA, anti-"M$" agenda? When it was just about posting cool technology stories regardless?
Slashdot is dead.
Meanwhile 2004 Linux Rules the desktop when in reality: http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist.html
Windows = 91%
Mac = 4%
Linux = 1%
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> Congratulations, you're the 500th person to say that. YOU WIN A FREE PONY.
Should he not be the 503th person to say that?
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
Idiot moderators... that's the old community edition
slashdot == ghey
* OSDN-owned Slashdot thinks its niche opinion represents the majority of the world. This is a result of people visiting every day and buying into the groupthink. Nobody outside of Slashdot knows or cares about "Linux," "RIAA", "M$," or anything else Slashdotters think is such a huge issue in today's society. Go to a mall or coffee shop sometime and see what people actually talk about.
* Speaking of OSDN--it's a Linux company...that owns a "tech news" site...that posts news stories negative toward competitors like Microsoft. If a Windows company or even Microsoft itself owned a "tech news" site and posted anti-Linux articles all the time, everyone would be up in arms. But with OSDN, it's a-okay.
* Slashbots think people don't like the music coming out these days, which is the cause of the piracy. Never mind that if people didn't like the music they wouldn't be pirating it, most Slashbots--again, this goes back to the niche opinion thing--don't realize that most people these days love the music coming out and want to hear all of it. Probing around, you discover that Slashdot is made up of nerds and fogies who listen to things like The Who and Blind Guardian and techno--not what mainstream society enjoys.
* The inevitable result of all this is a world in which nothing can be profitable because people simply pirate free copies. Is that really what Slashbots want? OSS and free-ness in general reminds me of the hippie era of the 60s--idealistic socialism that only exists because of the surrounding capitalism around it that provides the environment for it to exist. We all know what happened to that idea.
* Slashdot editors are abusive. We all remember The Post. It's amusing the editors never mention the issue. The worst editor is michael, who will mod you down, insult you for your post count, and post unprofessional color commentary along with the article. This is the same bizarre person who cybersquatted Censorware for years--even as Slashdot posted articles negative toward cybersquatting! Michael played it off like he was some sort of stalking victim, which made it all the more bizarre.
* Somehow, user-ran executables are always a "New Microsoft Hole" (actual article headline). Meanwhile, LinuxSecurity [linuxsecurity.com] posts weekly security advisories for all the Linux distributions. You never, ever, EVER see any of these mentioned on Slashdot--bizarre things like arbitrary code execution via MPlayer.
* Microsoft is supposed to be some sort of non-innovative rip-off artist. Meanwhile, the same people posting those comments do it through KDE with taskbars, sidepanels, start menus, similar print dialogs, and an integrated web/filesystem browser. Slashdotters--ripping people off then criticizing those who came up with the ideas in the first place.
* Linux is "ready for the desktop." This is the yearly uttering since 1998. Never mind that there is STILL no binary installation/uninstallation API for desktops, you can't come home with a printer and a CD and stick it in to get an Autoplay menu that lets you set up the driver. Somehow, Linux is just magically supposed to be ready--that is, if someone else sets it up for you and you never change or add your hardware or software and doing nothing else but check e-mail and browse the web. Conveniently, this includes grandmas, so people can post their grandma-using-Linux stories as "proof."
* Corporate-owned, subscription fees, banner ads, reposts, and complete falsehoods. Remember when Slashdot was a great tech news site for nerds? Before the point of the site was to have an anti-RIAA, anti-"M$" agenda? When it was just about posting cool technology stories regardless?
Slashdot is dead.
Meanwhile 2004 Linux Rules the desktop when in reality: http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist.html
Windows = 91%
Mac = 4%
Linux = 1%
1. 10.0 beta is a pile of junk. I just put it on a thinkpad. Pretty, though. I doubt they fixed it so quickly. 2. 9.1 actually works without the bug-family. 3. WTF is this "community" b-llsh-t? Sound communist to me. Like my apartment "community" where they keep telling me I "belong." The same guy owns 28 complexes. Oiy-vay, let's shoot some more children! 4. Maybe you mean "officially released." Has slashdot turned to hacking English? PS DIE MICROSOFT, DIE
If you hate them, do it properly and hate them fully.
Not even the whole installer, since the very last dialog tells you about it. ;) Personally, I've quit listening when people say "I installed Redhat and ran it for a few days...". I tune them out and wait for them to spiral down, and then say "You didn't try it, so don't waste my time telling me how bad linux is until you really try it, and no, dual-booting is *not* trying it."
Like what I said? You might like my music
Jaguars have white spots. OS X is called Jaguar.
Mandrake is just trying to trick people into thinking that it's OS X. It'll never work! Mandrake doesn't come with white spots!
:)
Oooh, OK, I get it now, someone pointed out that Jaguars have white spots and Mac OS X 10.2 was codenamed Jaguar.
It didn't click because I've been using 10.3 Panther for about 6 months!
Jaguars have white spots. OS X is called Jaguar.
OK, no wonder I didn't get the joke... I've been using OS X since it was called Rhapsody in the earliest developer preview days. (Followed by "Kodiak" Public Beta, 10.0 Cheetah, 10.1 Puma, and 10.2 Jaguar). I've been using 10.3 Panther for about 6 months, currently using 10.3.3 (Darwin kernel 7.2).
I guess Mandrake should change the default desktop to Blackbox if they want to be like OS X. Panther = black fur. Blackbox. Get it? *Ba-dum* *ching* But seriously, folks...
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload &name=Splatt_Forum&file=viewforum&foru m=9
Network Problems / Blank Boot screens
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1. Distro. authors didn't assume I was an idiot. (I did prove it to them later by paying for a silver level membership).
2. Can configure, make, install, sources right out of the box.
3. End of dependency hell.
4. Wasn't mugged for more money just to make the BOXED distro.semi-usable.
5. If I didn't want choices I would of stuck with windows.
6. I can read a Linux manual and know that the information WILL apply to me.
7. Can you say painless kernel upgrade?
8. Can install sources and they'll work.
9. RPM= Really painful manipulation.
10. Don't have to pay to post stupid stuff like this on the Slackware forums.
I thought I'd hurry up and post this before all the Mandrake 10 won't install, work, play nice with others,etc. etc. etc. posts drown it out.
While you all are paying extra to get things to work (maybe). I'll be computing right along, $130. poorer, but oh so much wiser.
"but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software." urpmi --auto-select --auto (after adding an update mirror) It took me a week, but I actually upgraded from 9.2 to 10 Community this way via cooker. (I had dial-up at the time) Worked pretty well.
You know that Napoleon was not French right?
just mostly froze up on me, I liked the way it was setup looks wise but don't enjoy it not working. I installed Fedora and not a single problem.
No support for my Radeon 7200
/etc/modprobe.conf to ensure that DRI actually works. IIRC this has been fixed.
Maybe you needed to add something like 'intel-agp' to
IIRC, you could also just have booted a 2.4 kernel until you figured that out.
Gives a fucked up login screen on my i865 video can't see anything
IIRC this has been fixed.
HUNDREDS OF MB OF UPDATES AFTER INSTALL!
Yes, that's to fix the final small issues people found (like the 2 you mentioned above).
Give me a break! Why don't you issue updated cds?
Uhh, you actually read the title of this slashdot article?
I have a damn dialup connection, and there are so many updates you might as well forget it.
Then, maybe you should consider only running an "Official" release of Mandrake. The community release of Mandrake is not really intended for people limited to dialup.
99% of hardware issues on Mandrake 10.0 seem to be due to the 2.6 kernel.
That's why a 2.4 kernel is provided. Booting the 2.4 kernel seems to fix most issues.
Most 2.x.y kernel releases where x is even and y =10 are "too crap usually".
Mandrake 10.0 official is quite solid though (IMHO).
Also, one reason why people didn't get the joke is that Jaguars have black spots. He meant to say black.
I had over 40GB free disk space. There is no way it is because the disk was near full.
And, did you at least bother to spend 5 minutes filing a bug report?
...
Fedora what? Core 1 or 2? If 1, maybe you have a kernel-2.6 issue, which you will discover in core 2.
Probably your mobo needs noapic or nolapic under kernel-2.6 at present
Learn capitalism 101 -- the lowest price is the one people are going to pay for. It's what makes Ebay a success it's what is causing US jobs to be outsourced to India and it is what is making WalMart crush it's competition. If you don't want it to be free then charge for it fuck hat otherwise stfu and go fill up my gas tank stupid whiny fuck. aka gpl + open source == shit wipe
PS I will post the bittorrent link for Mandrake 10 once I;'m done leaching all the cds.
Found these on suprnova.org. Haven't downloaded yet. Don't know the quality.k elinux-10. 0-Official-Download-CD4.torrent9 2/torrents/1613/Mandrake%2010.0%2 0official(1).torrent
http://66.90.75.92/torrents/1616/Mandra
http://66.90.75.