When the French spy on US citizens and feed it to the NSA, how is that different [than the US spying on its own citizens]
In a practical sense, it's not different. In a legal sense that the Executive Branch can use for justification "in the court of law", it's an important distinction.
Well, you know, spying on you own people and spying on other countries are two different things.
Here in the United States, spying on your own is generally held to be distasteful, and very often illegal. But while we project our own ideas of law on other countries, often they have no such squeamishness about domestic spying.
As to American spying on it's own:
* First the Obama Administration said "Weâ(TM)re not doing this."
* Than they said "Weâ(TM)re doing it to ferret out Terrorists!"
* And now they justify what Snowden and others have revealed by saying "Well, EVERYONE ELSE is doing itâ¦"
As an American, while in an abstract way I care what the French are doing to their people, my opinions are really only applicable to my own country - in other words, as far as NSA spying, what the French are doing is not relevant.
These are people doing a job. You might not like it, but don't start attacking them.
I'm sorry, are you serious? "Doing a job"? And they are recruiting people who will be "just doing their job" in the field of domestic spying. Also, if you are interested in "cops just doing their jobs", consider that Seattle is currently under a Consent Decree with the DOJ for "just doing their job". Maybe *YOU* sould apply to the NSA to âoejust do your jobâ.
If you're in IT especially and you're invisible you're suspicious. Lots of job applicants. What makes you stand out?
I expect to see this opinion in more than a few posts on this thread, yet I'm surprised.
I just can't imagine how spending one's time "tweeting" or maintaining a Facebook page has much to do with what kind of employee I want, unless perhaps those "tweets" particularly socially unacceptable.
I *might* do a search of technical forums to see what kind of tech questions and answers my applicant is giving / asking.
But why would I - why SHOULD I - give a shit about my applicant's "tweets" unless perhaps they deal with bizarre rape fantisies or something, in which case I might reasonably wonder why my applicant isn't smart enough to use an alias?
In other words, in my opinion, your "tweets" and Facebook prattle have no interest to me in terms of evaluating your job skills. In fact, I might be uncomfortable with someone who spends too much time in an on-line world.
DC and Warner Brothers have opted to produce a movie that foregoes a character-driven story. Instead, we're left with a trite blockbuster that holds beautiful special effects, an inspiring music score, a story that panders to the movie-goer
In other words, they made a movie that movie goers want...
The Hollywood movie with a story is long gone, people that buy tickets don't want to see them. CGI and babes, none of that old shit with human "stunt men" and real explosions. This is what sells tickets.
Companies familiar with open source licenses know that if they touch GPL code but keep it private, they're on the hook for continuing the comply with the related license terms.
But we are not talking about "companies", we are talking about governmebnt use, where the liklyhood of spinning it off is nil.
Government applications prefer PostgreSQL because of its permissive license. If they want to customize the source code for a project that isn't pubic, they can do that without having to worry about GPL compliance.
Why would they care if they are not *distributing* the application ouside GOV?
Researchers at Fukushima Medical University, which has been taking the leading role in the study, have said they do not believe the most recent cases are related to the nuclear crisis.
In a homogenous society like Japan, what would you expect them to say? Do you also know that the Japanese never used Korean "comfort women"? Except maybe in Okinawa:
And meanwhile, foreign media all but ignore the close to 20 000 dead from the tsunami; that was the real disaster.
Nobody is ignoring the tragic lose of life from the tsunami. This story is about the nuclear power plans and the ability of the Japanese people to adjust to other forms of energy (including dirty coal).
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I already have a Canyonareo - it's made by Chevy under the Suburban brand...
What amused me most was all the people declaring they were going to emigrate to Europe because of the domestic spying.
Canada isn't in Europe.
When the French spy on US citizens and feed it to the NSA, how is that different [than the US spying on its own citizens]
In a practical sense, it's not different. In a legal sense that the Executive Branch can use for justification "in the court of law", it's an important distinction.
Well, you know, spying on you own people and spying on other countries are two different things.
Here in the United States, spying on your own is generally held to be distasteful, and very often illegal. But while we project our own ideas of law on other countries, often they have no such squeamishness about domestic spying.
As to American spying on it's own:
* First the Obama Administration said "Weâ(TM)re not doing this."
* Than they said "Weâ(TM)re doing it to ferret out Terrorists!"
* And now they justify what Snowden and others have revealed by saying "Well, EVERYONE ELSE is doing itâ¦"
As an American, while in an abstract way I care what the French are doing to their people, my opinions are really only applicable to my own country - in other words, as far as NSA spying, what the French are doing is not relevant.
These are people doing a job. You might not like it, but don't start attacking them.
I'm sorry, are you serious? "Doing a job"? And they are recruiting people who will be "just doing their job" in the field of domestic spying. Also, if you are interested in "cops just doing their jobs", consider that Seattle is currently under a Consent Decree with the DOJ for "just doing their job". Maybe *YOU* sould apply to the NSA to âoejust do your jobâ.
Look at xkcd, not an ad on the site...
See this link?
You can get the Subways comic as a poster!
That's an ad. Them posters ain't free.
Not a bad ad, not an obnoxious ad, but still an ad.
...along with ... Zynga...
Well then, this is an appropriate product for them, the backdoor thing and all, since Zanga is a bunch of assholes...
The source for the spammy blog that the "summary" references:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/nsa-spied-on-european-union-offices-a-908590.html
On a more serious note, I'd like to ask Mr. Wales why most Wikipedia "editors" are "Class A" douchbags. Especially the "Admins".
This will be modded "flamebait" but it's a serious question.
In other news, when informed about the Internet Hall of Fame, most people said: "Get a life.".
In many places this is already the case. The offense of "making terrorist threats" is already being applied to children behaving like children.
Clearly if you have to ask, you aren't aware of compartmentalization, which is the very basis of "ABOVE" Top Secret.
No, it is not. It is a *part* of TS. Not "above".
No, it's a movie.
If your technical job requires a TS or above clearance...
ABOVE Top Secret?
If you're in IT especially and you're invisible you're suspicious. Lots of job applicants. What makes you stand out?
I expect to see this opinion in more than a few posts on this thread, yet I'm surprised.
I just can't imagine how spending one's time "tweeting" or maintaining a Facebook page has much to do with what kind of employee I want, unless perhaps those "tweets" particularly socially unacceptable.
I *might* do a search of technical forums to see what kind of tech questions and answers my applicant is giving / asking.
But why would I - why SHOULD I - give a shit about my applicant's "tweets" unless perhaps they deal with bizarre rape fantisies or something, in which case I might reasonably wonder why my applicant isn't smart enough to use an alias?
In other words, in my opinion, your "tweets" and Facebook prattle have no interest to me in terms of evaluating your job skills. In fact, I might be uncomfortable with someone who spends too much time in an on-line world.
I don't believe this story at all.
Now, if the summary had said something about some high school kid doing it for the science fair for under $200, that I can believe.
DC and Warner Brothers have opted to produce a movie that foregoes a character-driven story. Instead, we're left with a trite blockbuster that holds beautiful special effects, an inspiring music score, a story that panders to the movie-goer
In other words, they made a movie that movie goers want...
The Hollywood movie with a story is long gone, people that buy tickets don't want to see them. CGI and babes, none of that old shit with human "stunt men" and real explosions. This is what sells tickets.
Companies familiar with open source licenses know that if they touch GPL code but keep it private, they're on the hook for continuing the comply with the related license terms.
But we are not talking about "companies", we are talking about governmebnt use, where the liklyhood of spinning it off is nil.
He may well be. He certainly violated laws...
Even if he's "lying"?
Government applications prefer PostgreSQL because of its permissive license. If they want to customize the source code for a project that isn't pubic, they can do that without having to worry about GPL compliance.
Why would they care if they are not *distributing* the application ouside GOV?
Many years ago, after the bank forclosed on my moms house - she had been laid off - I purchased 400 cockroaches and let them go in the house.
Seriously, whats the gain by using Microsoft?
Phtoshop and PC gmaes.
Researchers at Fukushima Medical University, which has been taking the leading role in the study, have said they do not believe the most recent cases are related to the nuclear crisis.
In a homogenous society like Japan, what would you expect them to say? Do you also know that the Japanese never used Korean "comfort women"? Except maybe in Okinawa:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22666899
And meanwhile, foreign media all but ignore the close to 20 000 dead from the tsunami; that was the real disaster.
Nobody is ignoring the tragic lose of life from the tsunami. This story is about the nuclear power plans and the ability of the Japanese people to adjust to other forms of energy (including dirty coal).
i think he might just be right... the world has already lost its privacy to google
For which "the world" has most of the responsibility. Google has only what you allow them to have through your need for free stuff.