Just about every time I connect to the internet, until I disabled Zonealarm's dialogs while I was playing a game. Longest ever that I remember is 30 seconds. It's not unusual for me to leave the room for a couple of minutes and return to find 20-30 attempts at port 445.
And yes, I know what half-life means.
I've managed to only get infected once though (mobo upgrade, guy left a clean install without telling me), and yes, about 10 seconds from connection to infection.
After an hour with a moderately serious neck injury (not broken, but possibly interfering with nerves, leaving me not quite, but almost screaming), I just gave up and ended up going to a chiropracter.
Nothing scares you more than a radiologist looking at the x-ray of your neck and saying "Are you having trouble breathing at all? Can you feel your fingertips?"
But when they use up enough bandwidth that I get about 0.3kB/s it's faster to just clean it up by hand. It's the bandwidth loss that stops me from downloading. When that happened to me (4 days ago, mobo upgrade, guy forgot to tell me he put on a fresh Windows install), I got Sasser within minutes of logging on, and couldn't get AV updates, so I just ended up hunting down processes/registry entries.
Right now I'm using gaim to talk on there. If you want to use it without gaim or messenger, then you can use Web Messenger.
And to be honest, I've never found having long sayings as a name to be a problem. But this could just be that I know the people I talk to on there well enough that I can recognise the names.
If you want to leave a message to someone wwho is offline, just send an email. Most MSN users use hotmail anyway, so it registers with MSN. But I just use MSN to talk in real time, and if I need to talk to someone who is offline, I just call them. Like, with a phone.
Not that I didn't say MSN messenger (the program), I meant that MSN Messenger (the network) works for me.
As long as you never re-install. I just had my motherboard replaced, and the guy left a fresh Windows install on there. Up until that point, I hadn't had any virii/spyware. Within 15 minutes of connecting to the internet it was full of them. And I had to remove them all by hand since my connection couldn't get virus updates.
There only has to be a problem once. Make one mistake on the internet, and then learn to love registry editor.
As I said in another comment, these people have almost broken my neck. That was about 1.5 years ago. I still feel it now. Not the kind of thing that encourages me to get to know these people.
And the people living VERY close to me are all outside my age group. I don't get on very well with people under the age of 10.
I already deal with plenty of people I don't like at school.
but with a dial up, is it possible/easy to get updates?
Yes. I did it yesterday over a 33.6k dial-up link, so I don't see what the problem for most people would be - especially with Service Pack 2 to remind them.
I quite often worry about getting beaten up by these people. If I hadn't spent time learning to fight, and if I wans't big, my life wouldn't exactly be fun. Or, less so, anyway. One time I almost had my neck broken. That's a little past the "I'm not very fond these people" stage. Other than these people, I'm fairly friendly with the people around me, there just aren't a lot of people in my age group near here to spend time with.
From my experience, MSN has had everything I need for IM really (IM, and it's installed on just about every computer in the world, and on Linux I can just use Web Messenger).
The question is, does IM really need any new features? Or are we making a solution and looking for the problem.
Yeah, well, most of my friends live a long, long, way away. And I'll be honest, quite a few of the people that I know live nearby are shitheads. Are you saying that rather than being friends with the people we trust and are comfortable with, I should just spend time with the people living nearby? I have a few friends living in the same area (For me, nearby means less than 45min walk), but the majority live far enough away that it'll take 30mins - 1hour to get there.
Most people meet more people at high school than they do from their neighbourhood. In my case, they're all living a long way away. But I still see them every day.
Not to mention, I don't always want to share my emotions with a particular person. If I were to have a score calculated, based on what I write, emoticon usage, etc., etc., it might tell people more than I really want them to know.
The big advantage IM has over face-to-face/phone is that the other person sees what I want them to see.
If I'm really pissed off about something, I may not want everyone to know about it. Often they can tell when I talk face-to-face. Not on IM.
When you're getting something for free, [vendors] get a lot of "get out of jail free" cards.
From my experience, people always blame Linux for everything that goes wrong (I can't get on the internet, fucking Linux! [5 minutes later] Ok, I've fixed the firewall [Zonealarm on a WinXP box], you can go online. No, Linux doesn't work. Fine then, I'll get your email. [2 minutes later, email on screen] Get off, I'm using the WinXP box).
On the Desktop at least, Windows gets the "Get out of jail free" cards, not Linux.
Well, some of it is good. Take Jet for example, they were in the US not that long ago, you should have heard them at some point, and they're like the best band ever. Just my opinion, but not everything made by a music company is shit.
Security measures that use grep $PHONE_NUMBER assume that your kids only talk to people that they don't know - which is often not the case. At that point, you have to decide whether your kid is lying or not.
I'm looking for an innocent slip-up, not a deilberate attempt
If grep can tell that, i guess i need more regex practice.
It's not like I'm scanning for "pregnant" or "abortion" or whatnot
I guess you are very different to my parents.
And I don't know how you expect to use GnuPG or GAIM
And how do your kids do IM on Linux then? And besides, IIRC there is a way to bypass the noexec flag on the mount point, I think it was by loading the executable manually, using some.so, can't remember which, since I've only got a couple of months experience with Linux, and don't remember all the libs.
And about the script, well, I've spent the last 4 days Reinstalling Windows/Installing SP2/Cleaning off Sasser from the new install. Don't expect me to be particularly tolerant of running stuff on my computer, which I don't have control over.
I have hardware support problems, so I'm stuck on Windows for the time being. Seeing as my parents chose the computer, and I didn't get any choice, I'm stuck on hardware with Windows-only support. My parents don't know a lot (read: anything) about running a LAN, or even a single computer. So I have the root password. Since I use the computer with the internet connection, I can bypass any security measures.
And also, do you run every port through grep? If not, there's a way around. Sure, sniffing port 1863 will scan all MSN traffic, but what if she gets a friend to set up a proxy? I'd do it for my friends, and if one of her friends is tech-inclined, he/she may set one up.
My point was that kids should have just as much right to privacy as anyone else. How would you react to know that your daughter was sniffing your email/IM?
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Definitely. The computers we do CAD on though........I can feel the HDDs vibrating through the desk. They're that old.
The Media Studies computers though are much nicer: G4 towers. And there will be G5s next year. And all with OS X.
For video editing and photoshopping though, you do need the extra power.
Just about every time I connect to the internet, until I disabled Zonealarm's dialogs while I was playing a game. Longest ever that I remember is 30 seconds. It's not unusual for me to leave the room for a couple of minutes and return to find 20-30 attempts at port 445.
And yes, I know what half-life means.
I've managed to only get infected once though (mobo upgrade, guy left a clean install without telling me), and yes, about 10 seconds from connection to infection.
I'd settle for some painkillers........
After an hour with a moderately serious neck injury (not broken, but possibly interfering with nerves, leaving me not quite, but almost screaming), I just gave up and ended up going to a chiropracter.
Nothing scares you more than a radiologist looking at the x-ray of your neck and saying "Are you having trouble breathing at all? Can you feel your fingertips?"
the half-life of an unpatched Windows box on the open 'net is about six minutes
I've timed it: SIX SECONDS
I've had problems with Zonealarm, several times it has caused problems with stability, and occasionally caused a black screen on boot.
This just started again - right after a mobo upgrade, with a fresh install, before I patched it.
Anyone who wants to give me a job? I have LOTS of experience cleaning up virii.
You wouldn't use gets to input a string, would you? I hope...
NEVER underestimate the power of stupidity. You *shouldn't* do it. Someone, somewhere will. Make a function, and someone will use it.
But you know what the really sad thing about the story I told was? It was WEB-BASED email.
They use Firefox on Windows, but it's just too hard on Linux.
But when they use up enough bandwidth that I get about 0.3kB/s it's faster to just clean it up by hand. It's the bandwidth loss that stops me from downloading. When that happened to me (4 days ago, mobo upgrade, guy forgot to tell me he put on a fresh Windows install), I got Sasser within minutes of logging on, and couldn't get AV updates, so I just ended up hunting down processes/registry entries.
;)
After 7 hours, I just went to Linux
I'm from a family that eats all low-fat stuff, so I've grown to like McDonalds. Or anything deep fried for that matter.
Right now I'm using gaim to talk on there. If you want to use it without gaim or messenger, then you can use Web Messenger.
And to be honest, I've never found having long sayings as a name to be a problem. But this could just be that I know the people I talk to on there well enough that I can recognise the names.
If you want to leave a message to someone wwho is offline, just send an email. Most MSN users use hotmail anyway, so it registers with MSN. But I just use MSN to talk in real time, and if I need to talk to someone who is offline, I just call them. Like, with a phone.
Not that I didn't say MSN messenger (the program), I meant that MSN Messenger (the network) works for me.
As long as you never re-install. I just had my motherboard replaced, and the guy left a fresh Windows install on there. Up until that point, I hadn't had any virii/spyware. Within 15 minutes of connecting to the internet it was full of them. And I had to remove them all by hand since my connection couldn't get virus updates.
There only has to be a problem once. Make one mistake on the internet, and then learn to love registry editor.
As I said in another comment, these people have almost broken my neck. That was about 1.5 years ago. I still feel it now. Not the kind of thing that encourages me to get to know these people.
And the people living VERY close to me are all outside my age group. I don't get on very well with people under the age of 10.
I already deal with plenty of people I don't like at school.
but with a dial up, is it possible/easy to get updates?
Yes. I did it yesterday over a 33.6k dial-up link, so I don't see what the problem for most people would be - especially with Service Pack 2 to remind them.
I quite often worry about getting beaten up by these people. If I hadn't spent time learning to fight, and if I wans't big, my life wouldn't exactly be fun. Or, less so, anyway. One time I almost had my neck broken. That's a little past the "I'm not very fond these people" stage. Other than these people, I'm fairly friendly with the people around me, there just aren't a lot of people in my age group near here to spend time with.
From my experience, MSN has had everything I need for IM really (IM, and it's installed on just about every computer in the world, and on Linux I can just use Web Messenger).
The question is, does IM really need any new features? Or are we making a solution and looking for the problem.
In Australia at least, McDonalds does sell vegetarian food.
;)
It just tastes like shit
Sorry to get offtopic.
Who wants most of their desktop consumed by some resource intensive 3D application for IM?
As opposed to resource intensive 3D application for killing virtual people on the other side of the world?
Yeah, well, most of my friends live a long, long, way away. And I'll be honest, quite a few of the people that I know live nearby are shitheads. Are you saying that rather than being friends with the people we trust and are comfortable with, I should just spend time with the people living nearby? I have a few friends living in the same area (For me, nearby means less than 45min walk), but the majority live far enough away that it'll take 30mins - 1hour to get there.
Most people meet more people at high school than they do from their neighbourhood. In my case, they're all living a long way away. But I still see them every day.
I have one!!!
Well, I have a T100, not a satellite model, but you get the idea.
Not to mention, I don't always want to share my emotions with a particular person. If I were to have a score calculated, based on what I write, emoticon usage, etc., etc., it might tell people more than I really want them to know.
The big advantage IM has over face-to-face/phone is that the other person sees what I want them to see.
If I'm really pissed off about something, I may not want everyone to know about it. Often they can tell when I talk face-to-face. Not on IM.
Now that I read that, the anecdote is slighly unclear, I brought the email up on the RH8 box.
When you're getting something for free, [vendors] get a lot of "get out of jail free" cards.
From my experience, people always blame Linux for everything that goes wrong (I can't get on the internet, fucking Linux! [5 minutes later] Ok, I've fixed the firewall [Zonealarm on a WinXP box], you can go online. No, Linux doesn't work. Fine then, I'll get your email. [2 minutes later, email on screen] Get off, I'm using the WinXP box).
On the Desktop at least, Windows gets the "Get out of jail free" cards, not Linux.
Well, some of it is good. Take Jet for example, they were in the US not that long ago, you should have heard them at some point, and they're like the best band ever. Just my opinion, but not everything made by a music company is shit.
Google would have to show in court that searching for prime numbers was part of the work that these employees would be expected to do on the job
They expect them to do some programming to find the solution. And programming is part of their work.
Security measures that use grep $PHONE_NUMBER assume that your kids only talk to people that they don't know - which is often not the case. At that point, you have to decide whether your kid is lying or not.
.so, can't remember which, since I've only got a couple of months experience with Linux, and don't remember all the libs.
I'm looking for an innocent slip-up, not a deilberate attempt
If grep can tell that, i guess i need more regex practice.
It's not like I'm scanning for "pregnant" or "abortion" or whatnot
I guess you are very different to my parents.
And I don't know how you expect to use GnuPG or GAIM
And how do your kids do IM on Linux then? And besides, IIRC there is a way to bypass the noexec flag on the mount point, I think it was by loading the executable manually, using some
And about the script, well, I've spent the last 4 days Reinstalling Windows/Installing SP2/Cleaning off Sasser from the new install. Don't expect me to be particularly tolerant of running stuff on my computer, which I don't have control over.
I have hardware support problems, so I'm stuck on Windows for the time being. Seeing as my parents chose the computer, and I didn't get any choice, I'm stuck on hardware with Windows-only support. My parents don't know a lot (read: anything) about running a LAN, or even a single computer. So I have the root password. Since I use the computer with the internet connection, I can bypass any security measures.
And also, do you run every port through grep? If not, there's a way around. Sure, sniffing port 1863 will scan all MSN traffic, but what if she gets a friend to set up a proxy? I'd do it for my friends, and if one of her friends is tech-inclined, he/she may set one up.
My point was that kids should have just as much right to privacy as anyone else. How would you react to know that your daughter was sniffing your email/IM?