As someone who was there (I was nine when Please Please me came out) I saw just what they did. Sure, the first two albums were effectively boy band albums but once you get to Rubber Soul and Revolver then they're far, far more than that. It's also difficult from this perspective to understnd the impact of Sgt Pepper, an album you cannot, under any circumstances write off as a 'boy band' album. Suddenly popular music was being treated with respect, reviews in the London Times for example, and the musicians treated as artists.
Whatever you think of their sound they were as ground breaking as Elvis or Sinatra and without them you wouldn't have the music you have today.
At the risk of a 'me too' posting I second everything you say. I really, really want to be an Oo user. I like the ethos and, where posible, I'm a open source fan, but, like you, I've got used to all the little extras which are missing and importing MS docs is far from 100% successful.
But, in reply to the original poster, why not do as we've done, give it a try. After all, it's free, you can experiment all you like and make you're own mind up. I haven't de-installed it, and I sometimes still use it for creating original docs, but I wouldn't give up on MS anytime soon.
Mind you, maybe the next time I have to fork out mega-bucks... My office 2000 is getting a little long in the tooth and I flatly refuse to pay MS prices.
Hmmm.... At this point we could spiral off into a debate about art and poular music which always gets things heated. As I see it there are two types of music entering the charts, and again I'm overgeneralising:- that which is produced with at least some nod in the direction of art, and that which is purely designed to press the right buttons. The vast majority of hit tunes are churned out by the Simon Cowells of this world and their only concern is making money. As such it's very good at what it is; instant disposable, catchy tunes. However, if you want to listen to something with a bit more depth then you tend to have to look elsewhere. Again, depth is a subjective term and I'll admit that it's debatable.
Where we came in was the suggestion that there's no good music nowadays. I contend that it was always thus and we tend to look back at our own golden age through rose coloured galsses, remebering the good, and forgetting the bad. Oops, theres those subjective terms again. Maybe I should rephrase by saying that we remember the golden years by the music we loved, forgetting the music we didn't. Ok?
the garbage that the record industry keeps churning out But it has always been that way. If you're a boring old fart like me then 1967 was the great year for singles (Beatles and the Stones at their prime, the Motown glory days and the US west coast just beginning to wake up) and the top selling single in the UK in 1967 was Tears for Souvenirs by Ken Dodd, not exactly great music. Good (difficult term but I'll let it ride) music tends not to have mass appeal, the charts have always been full of mass produced pap.
Ironically the paper industry isn't neccessarily the tree killer it's often made out to be. For a significant chunk of the world, for example the north of Scotland, the only realistic crop to grow is timber, and, that nealy always means timber for the paper industry.
Anyway, I'm sure the trees have a good life and are killed in a humane way, not like the battery trees we used to have.
The time benefits of saving two minutes per day need to be offset against the productivity loss during periods of intense pain due to toothache, and time off for visits to the dentist.
There is a similar argument about showering. Being unhygienic is unhealthy and therefore reduces the efficiency of your body. Proper maintenance of any machine is essential for maximum output. On the other hand the apparent chaos on my desk at work is actually the byproduct of multitasking, and reflects the way in which I allow the various aspects of my work to cross fertilize each other - honest guv!
Anybody who thinks that Linux is covered by
GPL, or the Gnu Protective License hasn't talked to a lawyer, let alone understood the rights conferred under the GNU General Public License. I think we've both just fed the troll.
Yes, I mean the lot. Forget the camera, the iPod, the lot. Spend that year listening to the sounds of the world, not the sounds of you iPod, and being a participant, not a spectator through the lense of you camera.
Not only will your experience be hightened but, when you are inevitably ripped off, you haven't lost anything.
It isn't as if the French have ever made a major correct decision... Yeah, their decision to support those damn rebels in the colonies and help them overthrow their rightful British rulers, that was a real bad one! And that stupid statue they gave them, how inappropriate!
In more recent times, their decsion to stay out of a disasterous war based on dubious evidence is looking better and better as time goes by.
wait 5-10 minutes for it to download Please, please tell me which bittorrent client and DVD buring software you use to download and burn several Gb in five minutes!
I'm glad you read my post before replying, especially the bit that went
he can't mean/. because TFA was posted before the/. posting. Fortunately the others did read the post and provided interesting links.
From TFA
The classic case of Kiwi ingenuity has made its way onto the internet and the technique has been posted by an American website, Mr Jones said.
"People wanted to know all the details about how to make their own, so it is now all publicly documented," he said. Can anybody provide a link to the 'American website' - he can't mean/. because TFA was posted before the/. posting.
You will inevitably get a solid lump with active bacteria at the sandstone/sand boundary. Whilst the bacteria at the centre are effectively trapped those at the boundary are capable of movement. Whole sandbeds could be solidified. As one poster commented this, at the very minimum, will affect the flow of water. Sand is very porous, sandstone only mildly so.
The enormous difference between using bacteria and some non-organic agent, is that bacteria produce more bacteria and there is no saying whether you may end up with runaway growth. I'm sure they'll test it first but 'it worked fine in dev' has been heard only too often over the smoking remains of misapplied science.
The only problem with your statement is that, often it is the management that decides what platform a company's systems should run on. This is only too true, and, furthermore, they like Windows because they understand it, it's what they use on the desktop. They also mistrust Linux as 'not a professional operating system'. Yes, I've heard those very words from the Technical Architects of the organisation I work for which is part of a major multinational IT company.
Err... We Brits have exactly that. If you hack one of my bank accounts you haven't hacked them all. There is no reason for any one of my credit cards to know, or have anything in common, with any of my other credit cards. It works fine for us, we're not confused, credit report agencies work as well here as they do anywhere, and tax avoidance isn't a particular problem
GoodDeedsDone + BadDeedsDone = AllDoneDeedsThis can be simplified further to
PeopleThatKnowTheName + 2 * AllDoneDeeds = Rating
The brackets are not required because multiplication takes precidence over addition. However, they might be added to aid readability and remove possible ambiguity.
I wouldn't want something like this campus-wide. This is about business computing. We have hundreds of users using PCs for Three Layer Applications where the PC is effectively acting as a dumb terminal. It isn't that long ago (12 years or so) that we ditched the row upon row of Wyse 370s, and now they may be back again. The old mainframe has been replaced by Unix servers but the principle is the same.
One malicious user or virus How can they, they're only allowed to get to what I let them (ahhh, the good old days), there's no more usb ports, no more downloading stuff from the internet, the user gets the applications and access they need and no more.
In an achedemic environment I agree with you, but, here in the business world, 90% of users are quite happy with a dumb terminal with one dedicated application - think airline checkin desks.
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As someone who was there (I was nine when Please Please me came out) I saw just what they did. Sure, the first two albums were effectively boy band albums but once you get to Rubber Soul and Revolver then they're far, far more than that. It's also difficult from this perspective to understnd the impact of Sgt Pepper, an album you cannot, under any circumstances write off as a 'boy band' album. Suddenly popular music was being treated with respect, reviews in the London Times for example, and the musicians treated as artists.
Whatever you think of their sound they were as ground breaking as Elvis or Sinatra and without them you wouldn't have the music you have today.
At the risk of a 'me too' posting I second everything you say. I really, really want to be an Oo user. I like the ethos and, where posible, I'm a open source fan, but, like you, I've got used to all the little extras which are missing and importing MS docs is far from 100% successful. But, in reply to the original poster, why not do as we've done, give it a try. After all, it's free, you can experiment all you like and make you're own mind up. I haven't de-installed it, and I sometimes still use it for creating original docs, but I wouldn't give up on MS anytime soon. Mind you, maybe the next time I have to fork out mega-bucks... My office 2000 is getting a little long in the tooth and I flatly refuse to pay MS prices.
And the day that Illinois courts have jurisdiction in the UK we'll start throwing tea (or should that be Starbucks coffee) into the harbour.
Hmmm....
At this point we could spiral off into a debate about art and poular music which always gets things heated. As I see it there are two types of music entering the charts, and again I'm overgeneralising:- that which is produced with at least some nod in the direction of art, and that which is purely designed to press the right buttons. The vast majority of hit tunes are churned out by the Simon Cowells of this world and their only concern is making money. As such it's very good at what it is; instant disposable, catchy tunes. However, if you want to listen to something with a bit more depth then you tend to have to look elsewhere. Again, depth is a subjective term and I'll admit that it's debatable.
Where we came in was the suggestion that there's no good music nowadays. I contend that it was always thus and we tend to look back at our own golden age through rose coloured galsses, remebering the good, and forgetting the bad. Oops, theres those subjective terms again. Maybe I should rephrase by saying that we remember the golden years by the music we loved, forgetting the music we didn't. Ok?
Oops, so tears was '65, shows how memory slips as senile demetia sets in! Still, my point rests with "Release Me"!
Ironically the paper industry isn't neccessarily the tree killer it's often made out to be. For a significant chunk of the world, for example the north of Scotland, the only realistic crop to grow is timber, and, that nealy always means timber for the paper industry.
Anyway, I'm sure the trees have a good life and are killed in a humane way, not like the battery trees we used to have.
To push this argument one step too far
The time benefits of saving two minutes per day need to be offset against the productivity loss during periods of intense pain due to toothache, and time off for visits to the dentist.
There is a similar argument about showering. Being unhygienic is unhealthy and therefore reduces the efficiency of your body. Proper maintenance of any machine is essential for maximum output.
On the other hand the apparent chaos on my desk at work is actually the byproduct of multitasking, and reflects the way in which I allow the various aspects of my work to cross fertilize each other - honest guv!
You can open, modify, and redistribute free beer, but it's called something else by then and doesn't taste so good.
Yes, I mean the lot. Forget the camera, the iPod, the lot. Spend that year listening to the sounds of the world, not the sounds of you iPod, and being a participant, not a spectator through the lense of you camera.
Not only will your experience be hightened but, when you are inevitably ripped off, you haven't lost anything.
In more recent times, their decsion to stay out of a disasterous war based on dubious evidence is looking better and better as time goes by.
Or it proves that God's a really devious bastard who likes to test our faith by leaving fake fossils to fool the unbelievers.
"People wanted to know all the details about how to make their own, so it is now all publicly documented," he said. Can anybody provide a link to the 'American website' - he can't mean
You will inevitably get a solid lump with active bacteria at the sandstone/sand boundary. Whilst the bacteria at the centre are effectively trapped those at the boundary are capable of movement. Whole sandbeds could be solidified. As one poster commented this, at the very minimum, will affect the flow of water. Sand is very porous, sandstone only mildly so.
The enormous difference between using bacteria and some non-organic agent, is that bacteria produce more bacteria and there is no saying whether you may end up with runaway growth. I'm sure they'll test it first but 'it worked fine in dev' has been heard only too often over the smoking remains of misapplied science.
You'll lose your geek credentials if you don't recognise the quote!
Err... We Brits have exactly that. If you hack one of my bank accounts you haven't hacked them all. There is no reason for any one of my credit cards to know, or have anything in common, with any of my other credit cards. It works fine for us, we're not confused, credit report agencies work as well here as they do anywhere, and tax avoidance isn't a particular problem
I am not a number, I am a free man!
And long may it remain that way.
Given that
GoodDeedsDone + BadDeedsDone = AllDoneDeedsThis can be simplified further to
PeopleThatKnowTheName + 2 * AllDoneDeeds = Rating
The brackets are not required because multiplication takes precidence over addition. However, they might be added to aid readability and remove possible ambiguity.
Bored and khama to burn!
One malicious user or virus How can they, they're only allowed to get to what I let them (ahhh, the good old days), there's no more usb ports, no more downloading stuff from the internet, the user gets the applications and access they need and no more.
In an achedemic environment I agree with you, but, here in the business world, 90% of users are quite happy with a dumb terminal with one dedicated application - think airline checkin desks.