Ask yourself this: what does Linux do better today compared with in 2000, almost 6 years ago? I'm not talking about crap like antialiased text- I mean things that actually MATTER to users...
There are myriad examples. KDE makes Windows 2000 look like a dinosaur. I shall give you one example where Linux makes my life about a thousand times easier:
Mobile computing. Linux ROCKS the laptop, and here's why. I have to make frequent site visits. Each site I visit has a different network infrastructure. So I use SCPM, which is basically profile management. When I visit a new site, I create a new profile and set up all the networking settings, file shares and so on. So then, when I visit that site, I just have to choose that profile, and SCPM transparently swaps out all my configuration files, restarts all the networking services, and I'm up and running in about fifteen seconds.
I couldn't agree more. That's why I intend instead to get one of these. Admittedly it won't play Burnout 26: Chunderstrike, but I would have been more interested in the hobbyist side of the PSP anyway.
Frequently, actually. When someone uses a spreadsheet continuously, for months and even years on end, and neglects to split the spreadsheet into more manageable chunks, you end up with files which are several megabytes in size, and suck up most of the system's memory just to keep open. Convert the same document to an SXC, and the problem goes away.
Secondly, are you forgetting about the internet? Email? People email documents back and forth all the time, and every 100k extra makes a big difference.
Agreed, but don't you think we ought to try and break that trend? It wasn't always this way, it doesn't have to stay this way. This way is stupid. Word Documents are binary, about ten times larger than they need to be, proprietary, and they don't hold formatting information properly.
So, instead of bitching about how OpenDocument isn't going to amount to anything, and doing your part to create a self-fulfilling prophecy, why not join the rest of us that are trying to make sure it does, and tell your colleagues, and the people you share documents with, about its benefits?
How many times? Free as in speech not free as in beer.
The advantages of using OpenOffice are not, primarily, cost based (although that is a consideration), it's the fact that the City of Munich has ultimate control over what happens with their software. They can review the source code, they can modify the source code, and they are beholden to one less American corporation.
since... always, as far as I know:) Unlike Uplink they didn't put the linux version on the CD, but just download the combined patch and Linux installer from here.
Yes, but performance-wise, NFS kicks SSH in the nads - as you'd expect, really, since SSH has to encrypt everything. If you've ever tried to copy over that 11GB bzip2 of your home directory before an upgrade you'll know this already:)
That is the party line, yes. However (and many of the details are unclear) the authorities contacted ONE indymedia volunteer, who declined to release the relevent logs. They made no attempt to co-operate with rackspace, or the administrators of the server in question, they just knocked together a warrant, marched in and confiscated the server. The response was completely disproportionate to the crime, and the peripheral involvement of the indymedia server in the investigation.
It has also been speculated that the timing of the incident (not long before the G8 summit) was more than a coincidence. Not to mention that this is not the fist time that this sort of action has been taken against Indymedia's servers.
I don't know whether there's any truth in these "conspiracy theories", but I don't just swallow the official record of events either.
If it was only ever used in case of emergency, or in the investigation of a federal crime, then I doubt us "liberals" would have a problem with it. However, as the Indymedia server siezures (amongst many other things) show, this power is systematically and flagrantly abused to further politcal agenda.
Just because you don't watch BBC3 doesn't mean it isn't good. A lot of the BBCs best programming debuts on BBC3 - Spooks and Little Britain to name but two.
"I eventually had to go down to the cellar -" "That's the display department" "With a torch -" "The lights had... probably gone" "so had the stairs -" "but you found it didn't you?" "Oh yes. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'. Ever thought of going into advertising?"
Scarily, that was all from memory. And it was the first thing that came to my mind when reading the above, too:) </hitchhiker geek>
Yes, genius, but does the free shit run out of the box? No. The poster I was responding to claimed, dually, that Macs were easy to use out of the box and cheap. This is not the case. They're either easy OR they're cheap. Not both.
Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, £74.99 from amazon.co.uk. Granted, this is cheaper than a full copy of Windows XP Home, but it's still not *cheap*. I can feed my family of five for a fortnight for that.
Then add to that the wonga required for iLife 05 (£42.99), Photoshop Elements (£57.45), to get your Mac do to all the nice things that Macs do, and you're starting to get into serious money.
Contrast this with (as an example) SuSE Linux Professional 9.3 (£58.49) and then all the other packages I need to buy...
er... that would be none...
To say nothing of the cost of the hardware it has to run on, which, despite the Mac Mini, is still considerably more expensive that equivalent x86 based kit.
This is not to be construed as a criticism of Apple, because I'd love a Mac, but to say it's cheap is ridiculous.
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Ask yourself this: what does Linux do better today compared with in 2000, almost 6 years ago? I'm not talking about crap like antialiased text- I mean things that actually MATTER to users...
There are myriad examples. KDE makes Windows 2000 look like a dinosaur. I shall give you one example where Linux makes my life about a thousand times easier:
Mobile computing. Linux ROCKS the laptop, and here's why. I have to make frequent site visits. Each site I visit has a different network infrastructure. So I use SCPM, which is basically profile management. When I visit a new site, I create a new profile and set up all the networking settings, file shares and so on. So then, when I visit that site, I just have to choose that profile, and SCPM transparently swaps out all my configuration files, restarts all the networking services, and I'm up and running in about fifteen seconds.
Quetion answered?
If only ...
... well, that's always nice to hea- WAIT A MINUTE ... flagrant error?! Where did all my emails go?"
"'Everything is fine, nothing is ruined'
I couldn't agree more. That's why I intend instead to get one of these. Admittedly it won't play Burnout 26: Chunderstrike, but I would have been more interested in the hobbyist side of the PSP anyway.
Or, looked at another way, pretty awesome way to get a whole bunch of extra visitors to ones website ...
Hmm ... buy more RAM ... or ... use a different office suite. Yeah, you're absolutely right, that /is/ a tough one ...
I know about the difference, but we don't use OpenDocument in all our sites yet. Cos it's quite new :)
Frequently, actually. When someone uses a spreadsheet continuously, for months and even years on end, and neglects to split the spreadsheet into more manageable chunks, you end up with files which are several megabytes in size, and suck up most of the system's memory just to keep open. Convert the same document to an SXC, and the problem goes away. Secondly, are you forgetting about the internet? Email? People email documents back and forth all the time, and every 100k extra makes a big difference.
It has ceased to be! It has shuffled off and joined the choir invisibule!!
Or, on a more relevent and series note, OpenDocument has been backported to OpenOfficev1, which ISN'T in beta.
Agreed, but don't you think we ought to try and break that trend? It wasn't always this way, it doesn't have to stay this way. This way is stupid. Word Documents are binary, about ten times larger than they need to be, proprietary, and they don't hold formatting information properly.
So, instead of bitching about how OpenDocument isn't going to amount to anything, and doing your part to create a self-fulfilling prophecy, why not join the rest of us that are trying to make sure it does, and tell your colleagues, and the people you share documents with, about its benefits?
How many times? Free as in speech not free as in beer.
The advantages of using OpenOffice are not, primarily, cost based (although that is a consideration), it's the fact that the City of Munich has ultimate control over what happens with their software. They can review the source code, they can modify the source code, and they are beholden to one less American corporation.
Remember, Dentrassi hate Vogons. Don't forget your electronic sub-ether device, or your towel, and you're golden ...
since... always, as far as I know :) Unlike Uplink they didn't put the linux version on the CD, but just download the combined patch and Linux installer from here.
Both widely hailed for their innovative and enjoyable gameplay, both available for Linux. www.introversion.co.uk
Yes, but performance-wise, NFS kicks SSH in the nads - as you'd expect, really, since SSH has to encrypt everything. If you've ever tried to copy over that 11GB bzip2 of your home directory before an upgrade you'll know this already :)
It's a blatant sales pitch. The entire page is just a "whee, look what you can do with our wonderful document, if you just pay us $20! Woo!"
Why do people wait for my modpoints to run out before they post crap like this?
Is the end of the floppy era related to all this viagra spam I keep getting?
That is the party line, yes. However (and many of the details are unclear) the authorities contacted ONE indymedia volunteer, who declined to release the relevent logs. They made no attempt to co-operate with rackspace, or the administrators of the server in question, they just knocked together a warrant, marched in and confiscated the server. The response was completely disproportionate to the crime, and the peripheral involvement of the indymedia server in the investigation.
It has also been speculated that the timing of the incident (not long before the G8 summit) was more than a coincidence. Not to mention that this is not the fist time that this sort of action has been taken against Indymedia's servers.
I don't know whether there's any truth in these "conspiracy theories", but I don't just swallow the official record of events either.
If it was only ever used in case of emergency, or in the investigation of a federal crime, then I doubt us "liberals" would have a problem with it. However, as the Indymedia server siezures (amongst many other things) show, this power is systematically and flagrantly abused to further politcal agenda.
This just in: Parent poster has no clue what he is talking about.
Just because you don't watch BBC3 doesn't mean it isn't good. A lot of the BBCs best programming debuts on BBC3 - Spooks and Little Britain to name but two.
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... probably gone"
:)
"I eventually had to go down to the cellar -"
"That's the display department"
"With a torch -"
"The lights had
"so had the stairs -"
"but you found it didn't you?"
"Oh yes. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'. Ever thought of going into advertising?"
Scarily, that was all from memory. And it was the first thing that came to my mind when reading the above, too
</hitchhiker geek>
or lack of same in 1977. The internet has been a massive factor in the growth of FOSS.
Yes, genius, but does the free shit run out of the box? No. The poster I was responding to claimed, dually, that Macs were easy to use out of the box and cheap. This is not the case. They're either easy OR they're cheap. Not both.
(but it IS cheap)
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... that would be none ...
No, it really isn't.
Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, £74.99 from amazon.co.uk. Granted, this is cheaper than a full copy of Windows XP Home, but it's still not *cheap*. I can feed my family of five for a fortnight for that.
Then add to that the wonga required for iLife 05 (£42.99), Photoshop Elements (£57.45), to get your Mac do to all the nice things that Macs do, and you're starting to get into serious money.
Contrast this with (as an example) SuSE Linux Professional 9.3 (£58.49) and then all the other packages I need to buy
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To say nothing of the cost of the hardware it has to run on, which, despite the Mac Mini, is still considerably more expensive that equivalent x86 based kit.
This is not to be construed as a criticism of Apple, because I'd love a Mac, but to say it's cheap is ridiculous.