Also keep in mind that Google has a European HQ in Dublin. In a limited but real sense, within Europe Google *is* a European company. Of course they'll be subject to EU regulations and laws.
The bank robber may have other creditors but they have no claim on the money stolen from the bank since it's still the bank's money. SCO didn't rob a bank but they illegally converted money that belongs to Novell into their own which amounts to the same thing.
Well, it's different because a bank robber might serve jail time, whereas Darl is laughing all the way to the bank. We (as a society) have nice legal and intellectual games to justify it when rich people do it.
Sony is kicking some serious ass in online console gaming.
While everything else you say may be true, this is just wishful thinking at this point. Home isn't out yet. Nobody owns a PS3. It's holiday lineup is anemic. Right now Sony has a *plan* to *try* and kick "some serious ass in online console gaming" but they haven't done squat yet.
Can you point out where any of the Linux folk have replied with hot heads? That seems to be coming *entirely* from the OpenBSD side, who called basically the entire Linux community "inhuman". Because of a change that hasn't been incorporated into anybody's kernel. Of code that was dual-licensed.
Ugh. You do know that "dissolving the government" is absolutely standard procedure in every parliamentary democracy (ie -- most of the democratic world outside of the the USA)? Overreacting to it just demonstrates the provincialism of the American news system. What's next...? "Oh noes! The Governor-General dissolved the Canadian parliament!!! EVILLL!!!1111eleventy"
What's interesting is *who* is getting pushed for the elections which will happen soon, not the ordinary and mundane mechanics of parliamentary democracy.
"Leftist" drivel...? He posts shit in general, but I don't think it's particularly lefty stuff. I *wish* it was; I'm what most people would call a leftist, and I think/. could use a bit more (but I know this place leans towards U.S.-style capitalistic libertarianism, so whatever). But did you catch kdawson's gem from a couple of days ago? That's some pretty crazy right wing nutso land crap he posted to the front page.
Bylines often reflect where the writer of the article was actually located, so it's probably telling us that Leonard David, author of TFA, wrote aforementioned FA in Golden.
"Less corrupt than *even* the USA"...? America has just institutionalized and legitimized corruption in the forms of lobbying, massively expensive and well funded election campaigns, and promises of cushy corporate board positions after political retirement. They're incredibly corrupt.
"... the colonies"??? Jeez, you English still talk like that? Do you have any idea how ridiculously arrogant that comes across, especially given that you guys are basically a puppet government for the US these days?
Yes, because corporate spokespeople have never been known to make commitments they're not really prepared to keep. Let alone flat out lie straight to your face. No sirree.
Now, to other matters, I have this bridge in Brooklyn I think you may be *very* interested in...
But why can't citizens (*not* "consumers") stand up and say: hey, *we* respect human rights, and we want our corporations to as well. If the price of doing business in some jurisdictions is violating human rights, why can't we demand of our corporations that they -- get ready for this -- *not do business in those jurisdictions!* These corporations, btw, take advantage of and depend upon the infrastructure and stability the US provides. Why is this so unthinkable to so many corporate apologists? What is wrong with the thought of citizens standing up and exercising their democratic right to influence government policy (including regulation of private entities such as corporations)?
You pinkos sicken me. Where's Joe McCarthy when you need 'im. Everyone knows "human rights" is just a Bolshevik conspiracy. If "rights" really exist, the market will provide them, just like it does everything else.
Sorry, I'm a little bitter today, and it seems I let my sarcasm run away with me.
Because it was a high-profile, precedent setting (in the court of public opinion, at least) event that could influence how other companies deal with these sorts of issues -- or at least let them know that yes, people are watching, and if you're gonna dance with the devil be prepared to at *least* get called on it. Your argument turns very easily into "there's worse stuff going on, so let's do nothing" (which seems to be what you're advocating in this particular case), and that obviously gets nothing at all done. The only people who gain anything by that mode of thought are those who perpetrate injustice.
Yikes, either a free-marketeer who resents the suggestion of any government restrictions on profit (even if those pesky human rights get in the way) or a True Believer from the mainland modded ya troll! Hard to see what else could motivate such a mod. I
I take that slogan as a general warning about granting too much power to the executive, more than a warning about Hillary per se. A warning, fwiw, I agree with completely. The current administration needs to be severely punished. Letting them waltz off into the sunset with their war profits sets a dangerous precedent that I don't believe America will recover from. The full consequences of a failure to act now may not be felt for another ten or twenty years, but the stage has been set for full-blown fascism in America.
"...I'm voting Republican in the next presidential election..." HOLY SHIT. After everything that's been going on, this is the state of democracy in your country? What a dysfunctional fuckup America is.
As a Canadian looking in on the American media landscape, I'd pretty much agree with you, except for the Christian Science Monitor. There's some fine journalism going on over there.
You're obviously joking, but just for the sake of saying it: the GPL covers distribution, not use, so those passengers don't need to agree to anything at all, let alone a license.
But hey, here's a question: Let's say the airline makes a bunch of modifications to the GPL software they're using. I understand that they do not need to release those modifications unless they distribute the software. Does making Linux-machines available to their customers count as distribution?
Mixing up socialism and fascism doesn't lead anywhere, unless you have some sort of right-wing axe to grind and just want to smear the word socialism. Mussolini viewed fascism as the intertwining of private power (read: corporations) and governmental power. Socialism can have government-owned corporations (up in Canada we call 'em Crown Corporations), but theoretically at least (there certainly have been abuses) they are owned by the public, not by private individuals. In Fascism industry remains under private control, but with deep structural links to government. In Nazi Germany, for example, the German government didn't directly own much industry -- but you can bet all the executives and so on were Party members.
Yes, but I think the phenomenon you note is related to what Marx called the "commodity fetish" -- obscuring human, social relationships with abstracted economic or technological ones -- and it is one of the most deeply ingrained modes of thought in our society. It's one of the cornerstones of capitalism, and is a very "natural" way of viewing something like this for most people.
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Also keep in mind that Google has a European HQ in Dublin. In a limited but real sense, within Europe Google *is* a European company. Of course they'll be subject to EU regulations and laws.
...is this some attempt to make light of Bush's warrantless spying? If so, sorry, it didn't work very well.
Well, it's different because a bank robber might serve jail time, whereas Darl is laughing all the way to the bank. We (as a society) have nice legal and intellectual games to justify it when rich people do it.
While everything else you say may be true, this is just wishful thinking at this point. Home isn't out yet. Nobody owns a PS3. It's holiday lineup is anemic. Right now Sony has a *plan* to *try* and kick "some serious ass in online console gaming" but they haven't done squat yet.
Can you point out where any of the Linux folk have replied with hot heads? That seems to be coming *entirely* from the OpenBSD side, who called basically the entire Linux community "inhuman". Because of a change that hasn't been incorporated into anybody's kernel. Of code that was dual-licensed.
What's interesting is *who* is getting pushed for the elections which will happen soon, not the ordinary and mundane mechanics of parliamentary democracy.
Hey, me too! Looks like I misremembered. Although I hardly think the two or three lines I posted count as a rant.
Hey, stop that! Reason and facts are *totally* inappropriate when talking about Marx with (most) Americans!
No, kdawson just posts crud. Period.
Bylines often reflect where the writer of the article was actually located, so it's probably telling us that Leonard David, author of TFA, wrote aforementioned FA in Golden.
Why that's not true, you get to not live in America!
"Less corrupt than *even* the USA"...? America has just institutionalized and legitimized corruption in the forms of lobbying, massively expensive and well funded election campaigns, and promises of cushy corporate board positions after political retirement. They're incredibly corrupt.
"... the colonies"??? Jeez, you English still talk like that? Do you have any idea how ridiculously arrogant that comes across, especially given that you guys are basically a puppet government for the US these days?
Now, to other matters, I have this bridge in Brooklyn I think you may be *very* interested in...
But why can't citizens (*not* "consumers") stand up and say: hey, *we* respect human rights, and we want our corporations to as well. If the price of doing business in some jurisdictions is violating human rights, why can't we demand of our corporations that they -- get ready for this -- *not do business in those jurisdictions!* These corporations, btw, take advantage of and depend upon the infrastructure and stability the US provides. Why is this so unthinkable to so many corporate apologists? What is wrong with the thought of citizens standing up and exercising their democratic right to influence government policy (including regulation of private entities such as corporations)?
You pinkos sicken me. Where's Joe McCarthy when you need 'im. Everyone knows "human rights" is just a Bolshevik conspiracy. If "rights" really exist, the market will provide them, just like it does everything else. Sorry, I'm a little bitter today, and it seems I let my sarcasm run away with me.
Because it was a high-profile, precedent setting (in the court of public opinion, at least) event that could influence how other companies deal with these sorts of issues -- or at least let them know that yes, people are watching, and if you're gonna dance with the devil be prepared to at *least* get called on it. Your argument turns very easily into "there's worse stuff going on, so let's do nothing" (which seems to be what you're advocating in this particular case), and that obviously gets nothing at all done. The only people who gain anything by that mode of thought are those who perpetrate injustice.
Yikes, either a free-marketeer who resents the suggestion of any government restrictions on profit (even if those pesky human rights get in the way) or a True Believer from the mainland modded ya troll! Hard to see what else could motivate such a mod. I
MOG -- the Microsoft Occupied Government? How's THAT for conspiracy, eh?!
I take that slogan as a general warning about granting too much power to the executive, more than a warning about Hillary per se. A warning, fwiw, I agree with completely. The current administration needs to be severely punished. Letting them waltz off into the sunset with their war profits sets a dangerous precedent that I don't believe America will recover from. The full consequences of a failure to act now may not be felt for another ten or twenty years, but the stage has been set for full-blown fascism in America.
"...I'm voting Republican in the next presidential election..." HOLY SHIT. After everything that's been going on, this is the state of democracy in your country? What a dysfunctional fuckup America is.
As a Canadian looking in on the American media landscape, I'd pretty much agree with you, except for the Christian Science Monitor. There's some fine journalism going on over there.
But hey, here's a question: Let's say the airline makes a bunch of modifications to the GPL software they're using. I understand that they do not need to release those modifications unless they distribute the software. Does making Linux-machines available to their customers count as distribution?
Mixing up socialism and fascism doesn't lead anywhere, unless you have some sort of right-wing axe to grind and just want to smear the word socialism. Mussolini viewed fascism as the intertwining of private power (read: corporations) and governmental power. Socialism can have government-owned corporations (up in Canada we call 'em Crown Corporations), but theoretically at least (there certainly have been abuses) they are owned by the public, not by private individuals. In Fascism industry remains under private control, but with deep structural links to government. In Nazi Germany, for example, the German government didn't directly own much industry -- but you can bet all the executives and so on were Party members.
Yes, but I think the phenomenon you note is related to what Marx called the "commodity fetish" -- obscuring human, social relationships with abstracted economic or technological ones -- and it is one of the most deeply ingrained modes of thought in our society. It's one of the cornerstones of capitalism, and is a very "natural" way of viewing something like this for most people.