"Better" is such a subjective term much like your perception of teenagers if I were a teenager taking my punk gang to a restaurant, chances are some snotty Chez Lex establishment would just make them uncomfortable. Thanks for that laugh:) (btw price would be more of a factor, not feeling uncomfortable)
Anyhow I'm caught off gaurd rambling. What I'm trying to say we all get caught up in the what's better argument but the fact is what I like won't be what the next guy likes and what is more popular or widely use does not make it "better". There are other factors involved in keeping a declining company(like mcdonalds) #1 such as name recognition and more importantly trust and fear of change. Humans tend not to like change and when they get comfortable with something, they'll live with it and won't change unless they are forced to. And yes price too is a factor but it doesn't make mcdonald's better as one would think. If you put a big mac next to a filet mignon I think most people would take the filet mignon. Now if this the case why don't people eat filet mignon instead of big macs? they simply cant afford to
. So people like other things better than mcdonalds but mcdonalds is the more practical choice in light of external factors(money situation, time situation. location, etc).
In short to try to summarize my ramble, humans dont always pick the best, they pick based on 1)convenience 2)"good enough" 3)fear of changing to something different that they know is "good enough"
Granted I'm not big into marketing but my initial assessment is I would think they do make money off of instant messaging services. Millions upon millions use instant messenger services so who wouldnt want to pay for advertising space on the client? Certainly there's some money to be made from it somewhere. If not they wouldnt be free.
As a developer of open source software, I welcome requests for features, but complaining about a missing feature which you were never promised, in software which you haven't paid a cent for nor contributed your own effort to, is not going to get you far.
Yea but if its a feature that many people do want it wont get you far in other people using your software either. Before I get flamed troll what I just said is no way indicative of my full opinion on open source, of course i love open source! I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here:).
Firstly, It has yet to be shown that RandomDownloaderX would have paid for it, rather than just never hearing it at all. RIAA propaganda, nothing more.
Thank you sir. You bring up an excellent point. Yes I do download songs from time to time but many of the songs I do download I enjoy listening to but never enough to spend $14+ because I'll hate the other 10 songs. I know I'm not the only one. If I do like many of the bands songs, then yes I will go get the album and I have done so on several occasions. In a way music downloading ain't so bad. I like the band's songs that it convinces me it's worth going to the store and buying the cd. Where are those stories???????
What cracks me up people think this is a new phenomona. I've been copying music from the mid 80's. Granted the internet and rapid changing technology has changed how fast and how well quality of the song you copy but copying music existed well before the internet. Why didn't the RIAA make a big fuss then? Two reasons which we all know quite well power and $$$.
This kid graduated in the spring of '04 and, only 15 months later, is complaining about the IT industry? Get in line. Or rearrange your priorities. I think the college kids of today - or young people in general - think they are "entitled" to a nice job, nice pay, organized management, etc. Ha! Welcome to the real "Real World."
I most definately agree with you but being only 4 years removed from college myself, I did at least expect to land a single job. I'm not talking a 6 figure cushy job, im just talking about a reasonable pay for my level, get my foot in the door job. Took over a year for that to happen and with the help of God. Makes me even question the purpose of college. I busted my ass off for 4 years to earn 2 degrees and in the end I busted my ass off harder just to find a single job because I wasn't qualified nor had the experience for most other places out there. So yea, that's my story and gripe...
And yes kids needs some growing up to do and while most of the bitching of the article I feel is legit, it would help if the college kids have a real mentor. Someone to sit them down and say "listen, you really need to get a realistically view of what is going on. This is what you may think your entitled to but this is really what your entitled to. You need to change your attitude asap" We all know kids at some point in time need to grow up, but those that grow up to be the responsible, well rounded adults are the ones who had guidance in their life.
I'm not combing through 900 posts so forgive me if this is a repeat but hollywood is just as guilty imo. What does everyone deep down inside want? To be accepted and "cool"(well this point may or may not be true depending upon the individual but for a good portion of the population it is true). Are you cool if you are a math/engineering geek(by pop culture standards)? Of course not you get looked down upon and called a nerd. So until society changes its perception of math/engineering foks and/or more incentives are giving in becoming a math/engineering major, don't look for any miracle breakthrough or changes.
That's why you were hired, not so you can sit on your duff and complain about all the work that users make for you.
Your not seeing or using a lawyer, medical term, name of car components nor housing codes etc. as a critical part of your DAILY JOB either. Fact is if your job rely's on using a computer everyday, you damn well better know the bare basics. Maybe not to the level as some on here believe you should but you should know how to move your way around and know basic file extensions and common terminology (i.e e-mail or the net). Just like if your job relies using the phone(as most jobs do) you should know how to use it and know enough to go ok this is the phone cord, this is the speaker, these are the numbers you punch to dial out. I really don't get what the big deal is.
And you wonder why people hate IT departments...The goal is to work together in a company, and find solutions that take into account problems that employees may have
Your last statement is right but what you fail to realize the end users and most importantly the managment don't see this goal either. Many just want to bitch bitch bitch until the problem is fixed without giving an inch without moving a yard. It can't work that way. It takes TWO to tango. Both sides have to be willing to work with each other. Won't do much good if IT does what you want it to but the user fails to cooperate. But yes there is a major problem in that IT doesn't think from the user's vantage point and vice versa so a big gap is forming defeating that goal.
That's why you were hired, not so you can sit on your duff and complain about all the work that users make for you.
I wasnt hired either to get belittle and bitched at by management or whoever else because they f up their machine or expect me to drop everything to fix a problem they are having. Or simply because they are having a bad day and I'm the easiest and lame duck target to take there agression out on. I guess that's ok though and acceptable though since I'm off my "duff". Like any other profession, when you're overwork, you complain and since many IT deptartments are understaff since management either hates nor understand IT, naturally alot of complaining will occur. Its why I don't like being in the IT profession and thinking of moving on. You don't deal with people when things go well in this profession you deal with them at their worst. You can tell who will handle themselves well in a crisis and who would throw their own mother in the flames just to get out of a burning building alive.
But there are 2 sides to every story, to every IT department. Remember not all of us are "holier than thou" and you don't see either some of the shit we have to put up with just like we don't see all of the shit you have to put up with.
AIX might have been successful had it been available for x86 and with low-cost desktop versions available that were properly pushed
I agree with many of your points but cannot on this one. Aix is still alive and well and always will be so long as it is funded by a megabillion dollar corporation. I also think what you listed is part of the reason why unix "failed". Poor business decisions with the fact you have too many companies targeting the business sector I feel contributed.
As far as the article here's my opinion:
MS won't die.
IBM/aix won't die.
And as long as there are users pissed off users with ms, linux wont die. I mean how can you kill something off that's free? Only one way and that's having people stop supporting it/giving an f about it. So long as my first sentence point holds I can't forsee anyone to stop caring about linux anytime soon.
So, what's wrong with trying to destroy another company?
There are many a books written on the subject. All I'm going to say just look back at early 1900's history to see the evils of monoploly. I will add no one likes to feel powerless or helpless. The fact so many livelyhoods depends upon MS and there is not a damn thing you can do without the threat of outside competition(i.e. linux,google,non bush controlled government) to change the product's quality/pricing, etc. skeeves some of us off.
For the record I don't care if Ballmer wants to destory Google but I will start caring if he begins to succeed. My lack of caring is from the fact I don't think he'll even come close nor do I really fully understand why ms consdiers google a threat. I mean yahoo offers most of the some functions as google(web search, e-mail, instant messaging) and then some(free fantasy football, news pages) but ms doesnt seem to care about them.
Isn't that the whole point of competition?
Once again depends which side of the fence you are. If you are big business sure. Since most of us isn't, competition means 2 or more businesses legally and legitly competing with each other which in turn brings cheaper, higher quality goods and an alternative in case one place of business doesn't satisfy your needs.
Thank you sir. I was thinking the same exact thing. It really doesn't make any sense as to why a hotel would put your cc on your room key. Just seems like more work and not everyone pays with cc cards too.
In any event, I need more than one source saying its true to give this story any crediblity. Even if it is true I'm still not going to worry. I always hold on to my hotel keys as mementos and I keep my hotel key in my wallet. If my wallet gets lost or stolen, what do you think the person is going to go for; the cc or the hotel key to get the same cc number?
I do agree waiters should get a real wage BUT I don't believe in tipping if the service is that bad. Even if the service is a little below average I'll leave a good tip but if you're that bad, why should I leave you a tip for not doing your job right?
On that note, I did not read into the full story so forgive any erroneous comments. I'm just throwing my 2 cents in. Maybe paypal really are assholes but I can see the other side too. You do have unscrupolous people out there who'll do anything or use any excuse to make a buck. If paypal genuinely felt that this could be suspicous activity then kudos to them.
Personally I'm skeptical to donate money to any charity. It's not that I don't want to help, on the contrary I do it's that I don't know who to trust or if my money is going where it's suppose to. Many "charities" won't even donate most the money to the cause making you wonder where does the money really go to.
If anyone knows any reputable charities out there I'm all ears....
Remember the New Orleans disaster is one of the largest distructive forces to hit the continental US, regardless of population.
As the country U.S yes. But since this land has been here way before we ever formed as a country I somehow doubt this was the worst hurricane to ever hit the land.
Anyhow I'm mixed on the issue. It is a natural disaster and they happen as sad as it is. Its just a part of this life. BUT the fact the levees (sp?) were in bad shape and no one wanted to listen on fixing them shows the dangerous attitude of this country. We don't believe in fixing things until after the fact and this is why more people die than what would of been otherwise.
As another poster posted out already, my problem is not so much privacy but they are making money off of me and I'm not seeing a dime of that! If my information is that valuable, pay me the money! I'll gladly give it to you for 1000's instead of a 3rd party doing it without my permission.
I mean am I the only one that this seems weird too? 3rd parties pay ALOT for that information but the user who the information is on gets squat. Instead they'll use other methods to trick us like "fill out for a chance to win this!" or "fill out this survey and you can get $1 off your next purchase". They'll pay anyone in the world for information about your habbits. Anyone that is but YOU and that's an f up system. One I don't want to be a part of.
I don't normally reply to my own posts but i miscontrue some information and I apologize for that. The article does post some information that can be perceived as questionable(like attending and donating money to functions) but I still don't think its anything for googe to get up and arms about.
I love google as much as the next guy but banning a site for a news article which I didn't perceive to be bad is just wrong and scares me. That is more like a ms and corporate clulter tactic. It leads me to believe that as google grows, this may be the direction their heading, abandoning why people love them in the first place and become yet another big corporate company who will smash you if you dare do anything bad against it.
So what if the ceo got googled? I didn't find any information listed in the article to be bad. It lists his salary which should be public anyways since after all he is the ceo of a PUBLIC company. Mentioning the he has awife and kids isnt so bad either. Any happily married man will be proud to share that information to a stranger they just met.
I think the article does raise a valid point about privacy(albeit I do not like the way the article was written. I defintely feel they could of portrayed their point in a better manner). But at the same time its not something for google to get upset about especially since the info. they list about the ceo wasn't really private to begin with.
why does everyone seem to think "first to market" is a silver bullet that trumps all other issues?
Great point and we only have to look at xbox to prove this. Xbox came to the market a full year later than ps2 and the xbox seems to be doing ok for itself.....
Good idea except lately I've seen used games that only been out for a few weeks retail for maybe $5 cheaper if that. Not that much of a savings. You have to wait at least a couple of months to really enjoy any cost savings.
What company to you work for? Remind me to never work there. And as I always say preventing the loss of money and production is EQUALLY as important. If you seriously feel that way about your IT you should do like you do with your ac guy and just only call upon 3rd party to help out whenever something is down.
Sex is a natural thing. Showing online porn where woman gets deep throat until she pukes and having 5 guys around one girl having some fun with her is not and is just as easily accessible as your "natural porn". Also in many cases porn objectifies the woman.
Being a believer myself, in the Bible, it's not the life examples of the people you follow(except of course Christ), it's God's commandments. The Bible talks about many people who sin. It's using it to tell history and spread important messages one of them being that if you continue to go against God's word, there will be heavy judgement on you.
To also point out a correction, Job is not mentioned in Genesis. I'm not trying to flame-bait either just pointing out some corrections.
On that note I am mixed about this. On the one hand taxing these guy I hope would take some of the tax burdens off of us but on the other hand I'm afraid it'll be used as a stepping stone to further try to tax the internet until everything sold on it is taxed.
Chinatown is small potatoes. The dvds they sell are made from a regular video camera recording the picture on the big screen. Very poor quality in both video and audio aspects and not that many people buy them.
Now compared to a a high quality version of the same film put online for millions to download at will chinatown doesn't seem that important anymore.
Yea but if the people die then who will buy the products to pad their bank accounts?
Quoting from the original parent if tomorrow there is a terrorist attack that the FBI failed to prevent because they were busy arresting some copyright violator, I'm going to be mighty pissed.
I think this is unfair. I understand your sentiment but predicting the next terrorist attack is not an easy task, especially since all it takes is one man not part of any organization to strap a bomb to himself and decide to blow people up.
Plus as being as large as the fbi is, I'm sure they have many divisions. One to handle terrorist threats, another for drug trafficing, another for stuff like this, etc. Whether you agree or not with the copyright law is of course a matter of personal opinion. I'm just stating the fbi has enough resources to handle these manners along with the more important manners like fighting terrorism.
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Anyhow I'm caught off gaurd rambling. What I'm trying to say we all get caught up in the what's better argument but the fact is what I like won't be what the next guy likes and what is more popular or widely use does not make it "better". There are other factors involved in keeping a declining company(like mcdonalds) #1 such as name recognition and more importantly trust and fear of change. Humans tend not to like change and when they get comfortable with something, they'll live with it and won't change unless they are forced to. And yes price too is a factor but it doesn't make mcdonald's better as one would think. If you put a big mac next to a filet mignon I think most people would take the filet mignon. Now if this the case why don't people eat filet mignon instead of big macs? they simply cant afford to
. So people like other things better than mcdonalds but mcdonalds is the more practical choice in light of external factors(money situation, time situation. location, etc).
In short to try to summarize my ramble, humans dont always pick the best, they pick based on 1)convenience 2)"good enough" 3)fear of changing to something different that they know is "good enough"
Granted I'm not big into marketing but my initial assessment is I would think they do make money off of instant messaging services. Millions upon millions use instant messenger services so who wouldnt want to pay for advertising space on the client? Certainly there's some money to be made from it somewhere. If not they wouldnt be free.
Yea but if its a feature that many people do want it wont get you far in other people using your software either. Before I get flamed troll what I just said is no way indicative of my full opinion on open source, of course i love open source! I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here :).
Thank you sir. You bring up an excellent point. Yes I do download songs from time to time but many of the songs I do download I enjoy listening to but never enough to spend $14+ because I'll hate the other 10 songs. I know I'm not the only one. If I do like many of the bands songs, then yes I will go get the album and I have done so on several occasions. In a way music downloading ain't so bad. I like the band's songs that it convinces me it's worth going to the store and buying the cd. Where are those stories???????
What cracks me up people think this is a new phenomona. I've been copying music from the mid 80's. Granted the internet and rapid changing technology has changed how fast and how well quality of the song you copy but copying music existed well before the internet. Why didn't the RIAA make a big fuss then? Two reasons which we all know quite well power and $$$.
I most definately agree with you but being only 4 years removed from college myself, I did at least expect to land a single job. I'm not talking a 6 figure cushy job, im just talking about a reasonable pay for my level, get my foot in the door job. Took over a year for that to happen and with the help of God. Makes me even question the purpose of college. I busted my ass off for 4 years to earn 2 degrees and in the end I busted my ass off harder just to find a single job because I wasn't qualified nor had the experience for most other places out there. So yea, that's my story and gripe...
And yes kids needs some growing up to do and while most of the bitching of the article I feel is legit, it would help if the college kids have a real mentor. Someone to sit them down and say "listen, you really need to get a realistically view of what is going on. This is what you may think your entitled to but this is really what your entitled to. You need to change your attitude asap" We all know kids at some point in time need to grow up, but those that grow up to be the responsible, well rounded adults are the ones who had guidance in their life.
I'm not combing through 900 posts so forgive me if this is a repeat but hollywood is just as guilty imo. What does everyone deep down inside want? To be accepted and "cool"(well this point may or may not be true depending upon the individual but for a good portion of the population it is true). Are you cool if you are a math/engineering geek(by pop culture standards)? Of course not you get looked down upon and called a nerd. So until society changes its perception of math/engineering foks and/or more incentives are giving in becoming a math/engineering major, don't look for any miracle breakthrough or changes.
Your not seeing or using a lawyer, medical term, name of car components nor housing codes etc. as a critical part of your DAILY JOB either. Fact is if your job rely's on using a computer everyday, you damn well better know the bare basics. Maybe not to the level as some on here believe you should but you should know how to move your way around and know basic file extensions and common terminology (i.e e-mail or the net). Just like if your job relies using the phone(as most jobs do) you should know how to use it and know enough to go ok this is the phone cord, this is the speaker, these are the numbers you punch to dial out. I really don't get what the big deal is.
Your last statement is right but what you fail to realize the end users and most importantly the managment don't see this goal either. Many just want to bitch bitch bitch until the problem is fixed without giving an inch without moving a yard. It can't work that way. It takes TWO to tango. Both sides have to be willing to work with each other. Won't do much good if IT does what you want it to but the user fails to cooperate. But yes there is a major problem in that IT doesn't think from the user's vantage point and vice versa so a big gap is forming defeating that goal.
That's why you were hired, not so you can sit on your duff and complain about all the work that users make for you.
I wasnt hired either to get belittle and bitched at by management or whoever else because they f up their machine or expect me to drop everything to fix a problem they are having. Or simply because they are having a bad day and I'm the easiest and lame duck target to take there agression out on. I guess that's ok though and acceptable though since I'm off my "duff". Like any other profession, when you're overwork, you complain and since many IT deptartments are understaff since management either hates nor understand IT, naturally alot of complaining will occur. Its why I don't like being in the IT profession and thinking of moving on. You don't deal with people when things go well in this profession you deal with them at their worst. You can tell who will handle themselves well in a crisis and who would throw their own mother in the flames just to get out of a burning building alive.
But there are 2 sides to every story, to every IT department. Remember not all of us are "holier than thou" and you don't see either some of the shit we have to put up with just like we don't see all of the shit you have to put up with.
I agree with many of your points but cannot on this one. Aix is still alive and well and always will be so long as it is funded by a megabillion dollar corporation. I also think what you listed is part of the reason why unix "failed". Poor business decisions with the fact you have too many companies targeting the business sector I feel contributed.
As far as the article here's my opinion:
MS won't die.
IBM/aix won't die.
And as long as there are users pissed off users with ms, linux wont die. I mean how can you kill something off that's free? Only one way and that's having people stop supporting it/giving an f about it. So long as my first sentence point holds I can't forsee anyone to stop caring about linux anytime soon.
There are many a books written on the subject. All I'm going to say just look back at early 1900's history to see the evils of monoploly. I will add no one likes to feel powerless or helpless. The fact so many livelyhoods depends upon MS and there is not a damn thing you can do without the threat of outside competition(i.e. linux,google,non bush controlled government) to change the product's quality/pricing, etc. skeeves some of us off.
For the record I don't care if Ballmer wants to destory Google but I will start caring if he begins to succeed. My lack of caring is from the fact I don't think he'll even come close nor do I really fully understand why ms consdiers google a threat. I mean yahoo offers most of the some functions as google(web search, e-mail, instant messaging) and then some(free fantasy football, news pages) but ms doesnt seem to care about them.
Isn't that the whole point of competition?
Once again depends which side of the fence you are. If you are big business sure. Since most of us isn't, competition means 2 or more businesses legally and legitly competing with each other which in turn brings cheaper, higher quality goods and an alternative in case one place of business doesn't satisfy your needs.
Thank you sir. I was thinking the same exact thing. It really doesn't make any sense as to why a hotel would put your cc on your room key. Just seems like more work and not everyone pays with cc cards too.
In any event, I need more than one source saying its true to give this story any crediblity. Even if it is true I'm still not going to worry. I always hold on to my hotel keys as mementos and I keep my hotel key in my wallet. If my wallet gets lost or stolen, what do you think the person is going to go for; the cc or the hotel key to get the same cc number?
On that note, I did not read into the full story so forgive any erroneous comments. I'm just throwing my 2 cents in. Maybe paypal really are assholes but I can see the other side too. You do have unscrupolous people out there who'll do anything or use any excuse to make a buck. If paypal genuinely felt that this could be suspicous activity then kudos to them.
Personally I'm skeptical to donate money to any charity. It's not that I don't want to help, on the contrary I do it's that I don't know who to trust or if my money is going where it's suppose to. Many "charities" won't even donate most the money to the cause making you wonder where does the money really go to.
If anyone knows any reputable charities out there I'm all ears....
As the country U.S yes. But since this land has been here way before we ever formed as a country I somehow doubt this was the worst hurricane to ever hit the land.
Anyhow I'm mixed on the issue. It is a natural disaster and they happen as sad as it is. Its just a part of this life. BUT the fact the levees (sp?) were in bad shape and no one wanted to listen on fixing them shows the dangerous attitude of this country. We don't believe in fixing things until after the fact and this is why more people die than what would of been otherwise.
If I wanted to see video of dearly departed loved ones, I pop in the video and watch it on my tv for the fraction of the cost.
I mean am I the only one that this seems weird too? 3rd parties pay ALOT for that information but the user who the information is on gets squat. Instead they'll use other methods to trick us like "fill out for a chance to win this!" or "fill out this survey and you can get $1 off your next purchase". They'll pay anyone in the world for information about your habbits. Anyone that is but YOU and that's an f up system. One I don't want to be a part of.
I don't normally reply to my own posts but i miscontrue some information and I apologize for that. The article does post some information that can be perceived as questionable(like attending and donating money to functions) but I still don't think its anything for googe to get up and arms about.
So what if the ceo got googled? I didn't find any information listed in the article to be bad. It lists his salary which should be public anyways since after all he is the ceo of a PUBLIC company. Mentioning the he has awife and kids isnt so bad either. Any happily married man will be proud to share that information to a stranger they just met.
I think the article does raise a valid point about privacy(albeit I do not like the way the article was written. I defintely feel they could of portrayed their point in a better manner). But at the same time its not something for google to get upset about especially since the info. they list about the ceo wasn't really private to begin with.
Silly we all know windows machines needs to be rebooted after those critical updates are installed every other day :)
LINUX does not have this problem to the level MS does(if at all).
No amount of patches or firewalls will protect you from malware. From this fact alone Linux is of a less of a risk than Windows.
Great point and we only have to look at xbox to prove this. Xbox came to the market a full year later than ps2 and the xbox seems to be doing ok for itself.....
Good idea except lately I've seen used games that only been out for a few weeks retail for maybe $5 cheaper if that. Not that much of a savings. You have to wait at least a couple of months to really enjoy any cost savings.
What company to you work for? Remind me to never work there. And as I always say preventing the loss of money and production is EQUALLY as important. If you seriously feel that way about your IT you should do like you do with your ac guy and just only call upon 3rd party to help out whenever something is down.
Being a believer myself, in the Bible, it's not the life examples of the people you follow(except of course Christ), it's God's commandments. The Bible talks about many people who sin. It's using it to tell history and spread important messages one of them being that if you continue to go against God's word, there will be heavy judgement on you.
To also point out a correction, Job is not mentioned in Genesis. I'm not trying to flame-bait either just pointing out some corrections.
On that note I am mixed about this. On the one hand taxing these guy I hope would take some of the tax burdens off of us but on the other hand I'm afraid it'll be used as a stepping stone to further try to tax the internet until everything sold on it is taxed.
Now compared to a a high quality version of the same film put online for millions to download at will chinatown doesn't seem that important anymore.
Quoting from the original parent if tomorrow there is a terrorist attack that the FBI failed to prevent because they were busy arresting some copyright violator, I'm going to be mighty pissed.
I think this is unfair. I understand your sentiment but predicting the next terrorist attack is not an easy task, especially since all it takes is one man not part of any organization to strap a bomb to himself and decide to blow people up.
Plus as being as large as the fbi is, I'm sure they have many divisions. One to handle terrorist threats, another for drug trafficing, another for stuff like this, etc. Whether you agree or not with the copyright law is of course a matter of personal opinion. I'm just stating the fbi has enough resources to handle these manners along with the more important manners like fighting terrorism.