eminem- don't like
madonna- don't like
kylie who?:) ok ok I heard of kylie minogue but only know of one song she sings and I didn't think it was that great anyways.
Yes we all know already the evil intentions of riaa and some of these "artists" who I guess don't have enough millions of dollars already but so long it's artists I don't care for on a long abandoned channel, I'm not going to complain.
While I won't doubt you, me being a linux admin with 3 years experience, I find the opposite problem. I'm surprised how little there is for linux administration out there as compare to windows or other flavors of unix(or that's what I'm finding in my initial job search). By know means I consider myself an expert but I can get by with the basics like the questions you asked.
Now on that note I would never work in silicon valley without a good salary and that's because cost of living. I mean why would I work in an high cost of living area for say 40 grand where I can go to like the south or central U.S., make the same amount and make the money go almost as twice as far as I can in the big cities? I make 40 grand now in NY and I have to live at home or else I'll be near homeless that's how ridiculous housing costs is. It's why I'm looking to relocate to the south.
Now to bridge this gap with low to high experience people I feel is to offer more internships. I never heard of such of thing in the sys admin field and maybe that's where part of the problems lie. You want people with experience, but no one wants to train a guy with no experience and Lord knows the colleges aren't doing anything to get students business experience and so we have a catch-22 which you are seeing. I can see business' point of view with hiring people with right experience but at the same time I feel the business' can't always take, they need to give some and promote the right training to get kids experience whether it be pressuring college for better programs or granting internships and such.
The real number of X-Boxes with problems is something we won't know for a couple weeks yet. It could be everybody, it could be a handful of loudmouths (or Sony astroturfers) trying to turn their bad experience into the next big consumer "crisis"
What I do know is that I was in a Best Buy over the weekend and they had a x-box 360 up to play as a demo but no one could play it because as the worker puts it the box just stopped working. That right there is a bad omen along with the fact its bad marketing to put up a demo that don't work (according to the same worker people were turned off by the broking xbox 360 and was swayed not to buy it). Your right it may not be all systems but you would think the the brilliant people at ms would at least make sure enough that the demo boxes work properly.
This example right here is why I try to stray away from gettting no hardware right away(though I never had intentions of owning a xbox to begin with)
Ah, you see, that's what this is about. Microsoft is desperate to cut off Google air supply. One way they can do that is by gobbling up all the ad dollars. In other words, advertisers have x dollars to spend. Every dollar they spend advertising directly to Windows is a dollar less that goes to Google.
EXACTLY. Why else would the richest company on the fact of the planet need advertising revenues?
On that note F no would i never support any os the flashes advertisements at me. This advertising thing is getting out of control and I'm drawing the line somewhere and that somewhere is paying for software that displays ads at me. When its free and if its not over powering you can grin and bear the ads(I mean you get what you pay for) but I refuse to pay for a product that flashes ads at me.
but for some reason ISPs are holding back and because of that businesses are holding back. Everyone is waiting for somone else to make the first move.
I feel the ISP's have to be the ones who make the first move. A not so great example but gives an idea of how I'm viewing this is an official language of a country. Since I'm from the states I'm going to use English as my example. Most people here naturally speak english. Sure you have others here or there who knows other languages but they can't communicate by in large with the rest of the country without knowing english(thus its a GREAT benefit to know english). Now if there was a movement by a good portion of the poplulaton to move to spanish, what benefit would other people have moving to spanish if the key people(in this case the gov) still back english and will not change?
That's how I look at the whole situation, until the key players, namely the ISP's, are willing to change to ipv6 there is no advantages of small/medium size businesses to switch over because everyone else is still talking in terms of ipv4.
I suggest that you learn Windows first, then rant about it. You'll still have plenty to rant about, but you won't look like an idiot doing it.
Well I'm not familiar with remote administration on windows. The need has little value in my company as we are mostly a linux shop so if i sound like an idiot.. who cares that's how one learns. Anyhow back to the point, do these window remote administration utilities allow the app to be updated while the user is still using it or provide miminum distraction compare to say an rsync?
And just so I can be informed, can you name some of these programs that are superior to the unix way so I can research? You may be right but to me its still FUD since you did not name any apps and therefore I have no way to verify your claim.
But put on a T-shirt saying "Osama rules !", go stand next to where the World Trade Center used to be, and start giving Al-Qaida recruitment leaflets to everyone passing by. Let's see how long you'll walk free.
I mean you can still do it but the thing is though you won't live long enough to tell your story about it. And to respond to the guy you were resonding too:
Actually, didn't you revolve so that you wouldn't need to pay taxes to England ? And now you pay them to Washington instead. The more things change;)...
The official reason was taxation without representation. Yea were getting taxed up the Waaazooo but its ok 'cause we have representation now so get off or backs!!!!!:)
Okay, so don't force him to submit for tests. But look at the bright side. Maybe karma will get him, even if HIV (turned AIDS) won't.
Heh yea he'll likely die of cancer or some other disease which a person may of found a cure for but won't give it out.
My opinion, yea it's his body and he can do whatever he wants and of course the doctors and scientists will push it too far(i.e a million doctors wanting to do a million tests) but I wouldn't think it would hurt to take a couple of tests. Find one trustworthy establishment dedicated to aids research, comply to some of their tests and be done with it. And if you really want to be a semi-scum about it charge them money but at least look at the thousands to possibly millions(sorry not familiar with AID stats) that could be potentially saved.
Just like anything else, market forces will dictate when this gets adopted.
Exactly. And until the market moves toward IPv6 I don't see any need to move to it from a company stand point. Our company doesn't have trillions upon trillions of computer, hec we don't even have 1000 computers so the IPv4 private address classes is more than enough for us.
Ok lets say I do move my my companies 200 or so computers to IPv6, now what? No one else on the outside is using it. Not the service providers not other corporations, hardly anyone else really. Now what benefit did I get from moving 200 internal machines to a standard not incorportaed by the masses? If and when the powers that be move to IPv6 then I'll take notice but until then I have better things to worry about and fix.
That's exactly how I feel! I don't like Bill Gates much like the next slashdotter but I will give him credit for being a smart, good business man. The fact is though, its easy to stay on top and be worth 40 billion when every pc manufactured on this planet comes with only one os to go along with it. Yup you guessed it windows. Only in recent times do you see Dell and maybe one or two others giving you a choice of linux but you have to choose. Windows is still the choice by default and its unknown to the new/average computer user about anything else outside of windows.
Of course there's apple but I'm not too sure where they went wrong. The only guess I have pc's are generally cheaper than macs. And marketing is probably a factor too as even today you hear about windows this windows that linux this linux that but you don't hear much talk if at all about macs.
...we can expect critical flaws to pop up from time to time, even when highly trained, experienced, and monitored programmers are involved.
Exactly sir. You are right. Humans are fallible by nature so even the best and brightest minds will inevitably make mistakes. Couple that with the fact it's not easy either to debug or proofread thousands to millions of line of code, its almost like finding a needle in a haystack, and unpredictable things can and will occur.
As soon as I get on the road under the influence or start costing you more than my share in public services, or picking a fight in the bar you're at, you have full right to take it out on me. Until then, stop trying to save me from your fears.
Once again typical slashdot take what is said out of context and spin it a million different ways to prove the persons own point. You of been better starting you own thread. Anywhow I have no fear of this. The dude was trying to say drugs are not dangerous when they clearly can be and are. If I made this point unclear and f up a couple of the facts I'm sorry but that's all I was getting at. It's like saying russian roullete is not dangerous when it is. Does that mean I want to stop people from playing if they are stupid enough to try? No it just means its dangerous. Knock yourself out if you want to play. That's all I was trying to say case closed go back to killing yourself if you want and stop trying to spin my words around (for the record I agree with most of what you said).
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I'm with you man. I get an allergic reaction to cigarette smoke. I can't breath, I get severe headaches, burning eyes and it sometimes leads to high anxiety for me(prolly though more so from the fact it gives me difficulty breathing). What sucks too if I been to a place the night before that has a heavy smoking atmoshpere, I can still feel that shit in my lungs the next morning.
So yea I'm with you do what you want in the privacy of your own home and I'll even concede to the open air streets but keep that shit out of buildings. It is why I'm happy NY state, the state I live in, has a smoking ban. I know bar owners claim business will go down from the law but I call bs on that. People don't go to bars to smoke. People go to bars to *gasp* drink and sometimes try to get laid. I mean im sure smoking was a added benefit but you never hear anyone say " hey lets go to so and so pub so we can get wated on nicotine!!!!" And as for regular establishments, well this time period is a far cry from the 60's. You have more non smokers than smokers so you lose more business from non smokers not wanting to go in a smoke filled place than you would with losing business from a smoker not wanting to go in a non-smoking place. Just my 2 cents on the subject...
"Heroin, alcohol, ecstasy, and tobacco are the same way, you can safely do reasonable amounts for long periods without frying/killing yourself. The problems arise from people's weakness of will and inability to control themselves and their addictions."
I want to know how did this get modded up to insightful? Two out of those 4 drugs are lethal with just one dose and heroin you only need to take a small dose once to be addicted for the rest of your life. Alcohol can be controlled. The rest you can't their physical addictions. No matter how you try it, quitting will cause dire physical, even life threatening consequences. But if that's how you define safe then yea their safe......
People have very short memories. I'm barely old enough to remember the days of $0.25/min long distance from Ma Bell (I'm 31), and I certainly agree with you. But my mom, who's in her 60s, wishes we could go back to those days because it was so much simpler than having all these different companies to deal with, plus the customer service these days is so horrible.
Come on!! You should abe old enough to know all people 60+ wish everything was like the "good" ol' days:). They'll go back to horse & buggy and walking 50 miles uphill in the snow to get to school if they could!
Also, granted I'm younger than you but through my mom and other people, I don't recall the customer service being top notch in those days either.....
No and that's because governement still outrules companies like M$. It's South Korea's country and they have the right to allow or disallow whatever they want sold in their country like it or not.
CmdrTaco has been a major force in keeping this place together for years, and you constantly make use of the fruits of his labor.
I thought cowboy neil was keeping this site up for years:\.
If you can't stand it, maybe you should take your time and energy somewhere else instead of telling him what he can and can't post here.
Freedom of speech my man its what makes this country, and forum great. Granted I have my own view points on this issue which I won't get into but seriously how fun will this post be if all we get are posts saying "yes mr taco you are right. man your getting royally screwed. you are great mr. taco etc etc etc"..
I'm genuinely confused, if you're not doing more work, or a harder job, or a more advanced job, then why do you deserve a raise all of a sudden?
Well not getting into the merit of raises I do feel there needs to be a cost of living increase in order to keep the economic system in order and to keep people from folding under and I don't feel this is an unreasonable request. Its been happening all throughout modern history hence why we are paid in thousands in annual salary and not in hundreds like in the early 20th century. Just my 2 cents on the cost of living.
While there are underpaid important professions, I am confused by your teacher analogy because 1)this is more regional but no way are teachers underpaid where I live on long island and 2)teachers's are paid for by tax payers, not by a corporation or from corporate "price breaks". If you feel teachers aren't paid enough, ask the gov to raise you and your neighbor's taxes and bitch at your neighbors for not wanting to pay more in taxes or the gov for misusing your tax funds.....
While of course there are many view points on the manner my general feeling is if you aren't making enough to sustain a basic living your are getting shafted and that's not right. Not in the IT profession and not in any profession. Fact is this is slashdot not teacherdot or politcaldot so tech people are gonna bitch about issues that effect them but that does not mean they(myself included) do not feel for other professions that are getting the equal short shaft.....
This ilk of article is a tired saw, but its frequent appearance here at slashdot may be a sign of the times, i.e., the problem may be getting worse (I doubt it's getting better).
What you said is what's leading to my question. How many companies are "good" with the IT dept. example valuing the employees, realizing the importance of IT etc compare to the bad IT shops? Since I'm a semi newbie, I only have one job to go on, my current job and I say its more negative than positive. My company sees the importance of IT in saying but doesn't do anything about it 'cause were just a cost burden to them and the uppers don't understand much about computers. Looking into my career future, I'm curious to know if the bad out numbers the good and if so what incentive is there to stay in this field?
Very convenient for those that think the end is near. They always think the end is near.
But this society has weapons(i.e nuclear) that can wipe out the world with just a hit of the switch which past societies didn't have. Past societies also didn't have an reliance of oil or have cities built upon oil to the point survival is futile without it like the way we do...
And the end is always near 'cause life is short and when you do die, that is the end for you;)
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It's not liver cancer you have when using said treatment.
eminem- don't like madonna- don't like kylie who? :) ok ok I heard of kylie minogue but only know of one song she sings and I didn't think it was that great anyways.
Yes we all know already the evil intentions of riaa and some of these "artists" who I guess don't have enough millions of dollars already but so long it's artists I don't care for on a long abandoned channel, I'm not going to complain.
Since I don't know how else to reach you I'll post a reply here. Thank you very much I'll most definately check out what you have available :)
Now on that note I would never work in silicon valley without a good salary and that's because cost of living. I mean why would I work in an high cost of living area for say 40 grand where I can go to like the south or central U.S., make the same amount and make the money go almost as twice as far as I can in the big cities? I make 40 grand now in NY and I have to live at home or else I'll be near homeless that's how ridiculous housing costs is. It's why I'm looking to relocate to the south.
Now to bridge this gap with low to high experience people I feel is to offer more internships. I never heard of such of thing in the sys admin field and maybe that's where part of the problems lie. You want people with experience, but no one wants to train a guy with no experience and Lord knows the colleges aren't doing anything to get students business experience and so we have a catch-22 which you are seeing. I can see business' point of view with hiring people with right experience but at the same time I feel the business' can't always take, they need to give some and promote the right training to get kids experience whether it be pressuring college for better programs or granting internships and such.
Hey if it was me, I'd tell prospective students that prospects are really really bleak. Screw wages going up again I just like to find a job at will :)
What I do know is that I was in a Best Buy over the weekend and they had a x-box 360 up to play as a demo but no one could play it because as the worker puts it the box just stopped working. That right there is a bad omen along with the fact its bad marketing to put up a demo that don't work (according to the same worker people were turned off by the broking xbox 360 and was swayed not to buy it). Your right it may not be all systems but you would think the the brilliant people at ms would at least make sure enough that the demo boxes work properly.
This example right here is why I try to stray away from gettting no hardware right away(though I never had intentions of owning a xbox to begin with)
EXACTLY. Why else would the richest company on the fact of the planet need advertising revenues?
On that note F no would i never support any os the flashes advertisements at me. This advertising thing is getting out of control and I'm drawing the line somewhere and that somewhere is paying for software that displays ads at me. When its free and if its not over powering you can grin and bear the ads(I mean you get what you pay for) but I refuse to pay for a product that flashes ads at me.
I feel the ISP's have to be the ones who make the first move. A not so great example but gives an idea of how I'm viewing this is an official language of a country. Since I'm from the states I'm going to use English as my example. Most people here naturally speak english. Sure you have others here or there who knows other languages but they can't communicate by in large with the rest of the country without knowing english(thus its a GREAT benefit to know english). Now if there was a movement by a good portion of the poplulaton to move to spanish, what benefit would other people have moving to spanish if the key people(in this case the gov) still back english and will not change?
That's how I look at the whole situation, until the key players, namely the ISP's, are willing to change to ipv6 there is no advantages of small/medium size businesses to switch over because everyone else is still talking in terms of ipv4.
Well I'm not familiar with remote administration on windows. The need has little value in my company as we are mostly a linux shop so if i sound like an idiot.. who cares that's how one learns. Anyhow back to the point, do these window remote administration utilities allow the app to be updated while the user is still using it or provide miminum distraction compare to say an rsync?
And just so I can be informed, can you name some of these programs that are superior to the unix way so I can research? You may be right but to me its still FUD since you did not name any apps and therefore I have no way to verify your claim.
I mean you can still do it but the thing is though you won't live long enough to tell your story about it. And to respond to the guy you were resonding too:
Actually, didn't you revolve so that you wouldn't need to pay taxes to England ? And now you pay them to Washington instead. The more things change ;)...
The official reason was taxation without representation. Yea were getting taxed up the Waaazooo but its ok 'cause we have representation now so get off or backs!!!!! :)
A windows supercluster? You do know who this is going to make very happy? Yup the porn,online gambling and the russian mob spyware/malware industry.
Heh yea he'll likely die of cancer or some other disease which a person may of found a cure for but won't give it out.
My opinion, yea it's his body and he can do whatever he wants and of course the doctors and scientists will push it too far(i.e a million doctors wanting to do a million tests) but I wouldn't think it would hurt to take a couple of tests. Find one trustworthy establishment dedicated to aids research, comply to some of their tests and be done with it. And if you really want to be a semi-scum about it charge them money but at least look at the thousands to possibly millions(sorry not familiar with AID stats) that could be potentially saved.
Exactly. And until the market moves toward IPv6 I don't see any need to move to it from a company stand point. Our company doesn't have trillions upon trillions of computer, hec we don't even have 1000 computers so the IPv4 private address classes is more than enough for us.
Ok lets say I do move my my companies 200 or so computers to IPv6, now what? No one else on the outside is using it. Not the service providers not other corporations, hardly anyone else really. Now what benefit did I get from moving 200 internal machines to a standard not incorportaed by the masses? If and when the powers that be move to IPv6 then I'll take notice but until then I have better things to worry about and fix.
That's exactly how I feel! I don't like Bill Gates much like the next slashdotter but I will give him credit for being a smart, good business man. The fact is though, its easy to stay on top and be worth 40 billion when every pc manufactured on this planet comes with only one os to go along with it. Yup you guessed it windows. Only in recent times do you see Dell and maybe one or two others giving you a choice of linux but you have to choose. Windows is still the choice by default and its unknown to the new/average computer user about anything else outside of windows.
Of course there's apple but I'm not too sure where they went wrong. The only guess I have pc's are generally cheaper than macs. And marketing is probably a factor too as even today you hear about windows this windows that linux this linux that but you don't hear much talk if at all about macs.
Exactly sir. You are right. Humans are fallible by nature so even the best and brightest minds will inevitably make mistakes. Couple that with the fact it's not easy either to debug or proofread thousands to millions of line of code, its almost like finding a needle in a haystack, and unpredictable things can and will occur.
Once again typical slashdot take what is said out of context and spin it a million different ways to prove the persons own point. You of been better starting you own thread. Anywhow I have no fear of this. The dude was trying to say drugs are not dangerous when they clearly can be and are. If I made this point unclear and f up a couple of the facts I'm sorry but that's all I was getting at. It's like saying russian roullete is not dangerous when it is. Does that mean I want to stop people from playing if they are stupid enough to try? No it just means its dangerous. Knock yourself out if you want to play. That's all I was trying to say case closed go back to killing yourself if you want and stop trying to spin my words around (for the record I agree with most of what you said).
I'm with you man. I get an allergic reaction to cigarette smoke. I can't breath, I get severe headaches, burning eyes and it sometimes leads to high anxiety for me(prolly though more so from the fact it gives me difficulty breathing). What sucks too if I been to a place the night before that has a heavy smoking atmoshpere, I can still feel that shit in my lungs the next morning.
So yea I'm with you do what you want in the privacy of your own home and I'll even concede to the open air streets but keep that shit out of buildings. It is why I'm happy NY state, the state I live in, has a smoking ban. I know bar owners claim business will go down from the law but I call bs on that. People don't go to bars to smoke. People go to bars to *gasp* drink and sometimes try to get laid. I mean im sure smoking was a added benefit but you never hear anyone say " hey lets go to so and so pub so we can get wated on nicotine!!!!" And as for regular establishments, well this time period is a far cry from the 60's. You have more non smokers than smokers so you lose more business from non smokers not wanting to go in a smoke filled place than you would with losing business from a smoker not wanting to go in a non-smoking place. Just my 2 cents on the subject...
I want to know how did this get modded up to insightful? Two out of those 4 drugs are lethal with just one dose and heroin you only need to take a small dose once to be addicted for the rest of your life. Alcohol can be controlled. The rest you can't their physical addictions. No matter how you try it, quitting will cause dire physical, even life threatening consequences. But if that's how you define safe then yea their safe......
Come on!! You should abe old enough to know all people 60+ wish everything was like the "good" ol' days :). They'll go back to horse & buggy and walking 50 miles uphill in the snow to get to school if they could!
Also, granted I'm younger than you but through my mom and other people, I don't recall the customer service being top notch in those days either.....
No and that's because governement still outrules companies like M$. It's South Korea's country and they have the right to allow or disallow whatever they want sold in their country like it or not.
I thought cowboy neil was keeping this site up for years :\.
If you can't stand it, maybe you should take your time and energy somewhere else instead of telling him what he can and can't post here.
Freedom of speech my man its what makes this country, and forum great. Granted I have my own view points on this issue which I won't get into but seriously how fun will this post be if all we get are posts saying "yes mr taco you are right. man your getting royally screwed. you are great mr. taco etc etc etc"..
Well not getting into the merit of raises I do feel there needs to be a cost of living increase in order to keep the economic system in order and to keep people from folding under and I don't feel this is an unreasonable request. Its been happening all throughout modern history hence why we are paid in thousands in annual salary and not in hundreds like in the early 20th century. Just my 2 cents on the cost of living.
While of course there are many view points on the manner my general feeling is if you aren't making enough to sustain a basic living your are getting shafted and that's not right. Not in the IT profession and not in any profession. Fact is this is slashdot not teacherdot or politcaldot so tech people are gonna bitch about issues that effect them but that does not mean they(myself included) do not feel for other professions that are getting the equal short shaft.....
What you said is what's leading to my question. How many companies are "good" with the IT dept. example valuing the employees, realizing the importance of IT etc compare to the bad IT shops? Since I'm a semi newbie, I only have one job to go on, my current job and I say its more negative than positive. My company sees the importance of IT in saying but doesn't do anything about it 'cause were just a cost burden to them and the uppers don't understand much about computers. Looking into my career future, I'm curious to know if the bad out numbers the good and if so what incentive is there to stay in this field?
But this society has weapons(i.e nuclear) that can wipe out the world with just a hit of the switch which past societies didn't have. Past societies also didn't have an reliance of oil or have cities built upon oil to the point survival is futile without it like the way we do...
And the end is always near 'cause life is short and when you do die, that is the end for you;)