Ooops. I replied to the wrong post, should I repeat it here? Ahhh, why not.
It never occurred to me before that the GPL is also an "embrace and extend" strategy.
No it isn't. It's much closer to a "If you're not for us, your against us" tactic.
It says, "you can use our stuff, and make more stuff out of our stuff, but only if you lisence any resulting stuff the same".
Embrace and extend is like "we'll get our stuff to support your features and play nice with your system, but then well add more features to ours that you can't use", thus meaning that if you want to use the fancy new stuff you gotta use the extended and the extended ain't shared with the original authors.
It never occurred to me before that the GPL is also an "embrace and extend" strategy.
No it isn't. It's much closer to a "If you're not for us, your against us" tactic.
It says, "you can use our stuff, and make more stuff out of our stuff, but only if you lisence any resulting stuff the same".
Embrace and extend is like "we'll get our stuff to support your features and play nice with your system, but then well add more features to ours that you can't use", thus meaning that if you want to use the fancy new stuff you gotta use the extended and the extended ain't shared with the original authors.
> There is no end point in lifetime relationships
When you're lying on your deathbed looking back on your life, or it's flashing before your eyes after a truck hits you, or whatever, that's the endpoint. If you're thinking "that was pretty worthwhile on the whole", you've won. If you're thinking "at last this whole shitty existence is over" you've lost.
But the relationship is not over. This again shows the flaw in most peoples thinking about such things. You see the relationship as something of yours that involves another person. It's not. It has an existence (or a reality) of it's own that is not extinguished by the death of a participant. It might be your endpoint (although I don't believe that it is, but that's a whole other discussion, and I believe that there is another existence beyond the physical and that those that pass on still care about those that have not yet joined them, but I digress) but not the endpoint for your partner who still cares about you, even though you've gone. So the relationship is still there, and can still benefit the other person.
I believe that is procreation and has nothing to do with life time relationships. It's possible to pass on ones genes with out being in a life time relationship (in fact I hear it happens quite a bit).
I just remembered my biggest problem with this discussion. FINDING A LIFE PARTNER IS NOT A GAME WITH A FINITE END. In order for something to be considered zero-sum or non-zero-sum, there must be an end point. There is no end point in lifetime relationships, and the belief that getting to the stage of marriage or whatever as an end point, is the reason that so many people become disillusioned by the whole thing. Marriage or whatever is not the end point of a game, neither is it the starting point of another game, but a stage in the progress of life. It is the point that you choose to open up and share your life and experiences with another individual who wishes to do the same, and that is certainly NOT zero-sum!
Firstly, you should not be out "looking" for a partner, like you look for a car. Mariage, or permanent relationships are not about "ownership" or "possession". It's not a competition to see who "has" the better partner. You are not "denying" that partner to anyone else. You are forming a partnership with another individual to establish a lifelong connection of mutual aid and intimacy.
I think you will find that not a lot of life is actually zero sum, unless you choose it to be. Also the people who DO see the world as zero sum are generally the ones who wish they had more or what the other person has and generally is not a happy person because of it. Always having to keep up with everyone else otherwise the're "losing" at life because other people are "better" than they are. Does this sound familiar to you?
The non zero sum phillosophy is good, because with it, no one loses unless they choose to lose.
My advice to you would be to actually approach your current employer and explain the situation with them. Explain what you posted onto the public forum and why, and maybe show them any written correspondence from your former employer.
It'll sound much better coming from you and your current employer may actually see this as an extremely positive thing. I don't know what your current employer is like, but I would think that most sane employers would appreciate this gesture. It will also GREATLY reduce the impact of them hearing it from an external source.
Management is usually looking for employees who keep them informed of possible problems, and this gesture would only show maturity.
And it would be nice if Helix^W Ximian and Eazel would get together on their libs. Nautilus killed Evolution.
While I agree on the first point to some degree (particularly with package updating systems), I think you are confused about your second point. Nautilus is a file manager. Evolution is a mail client.
I believe he ment that installing Nautilus updated the libs that Evolution required, and now Evolution doesn't work.
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Wrong. Windows is factored into the cost of the PC. I bought my most recent PC without Windows from a regular computer shop and saved ~AU$120.
3. Windows runs these games faster, and necessarily always will - emulation has to be slower, because there's two layers.
As others have pointed out, Wine is an implementation of the Win32 API, it should/will have the same overhead (approx) as the Windows implementation, there is no "extra layer".
4. Windows runs the games easier than WINE - you don't have to compile Windows for your PC like you do with Wine (you can get pre-built builds, but they don't work as well).
Yep, you don't have to compile Windows for each machine. But that is also a drawback. Windows is compiled to run well under ANY combination of Intel based hardware, it's not optimised for anything. If you could recompile Windows for your specific hardware believe me, most gamers would be tweeking their compiles till they got the last extra frame per second they could. In my opinion Windows is equivalent to precompiled wine binares, and these are in Beta now (finnaly out of alpha) so performace optimisations are not really setup for a general binary release, optimisations need to be set for your specific hardware and then debugged if neccessary. But once the finnal general releases of wine appear (a version one) you will still be able to get more performance out of the system by custom compiling the software for your specific needs. You don't have that option on Windows.
5. For WINE to work usably, you are required to have Windows on your PC (true: all those shots of Word running on Linux only happen because Linux is using the dlls and vxds)
You don't NEED Windows installed to run wine. The majority of the major runtime DLLs are somewhat supported. At the moment, having access to the real Windows DLLs will improve things, but that is becomming less and less important as time goes on. The goal is to be able to install and run standard Windows software, without a single piece of the official Windows OS installed. Wine will be able to install and run custom DLLs that come with other programs though.
etc.
How is that a question?
So why bother?
Why do this?
Simply put, choice. The choice of running the software you want on the platform you like. No big conspiracy, just choice.
Actually the Windows game Pretty Good Solitare 2K by GoodSol is a pretty fantastic soltiare game. It's got 330 games of solitare to choose from, and runs about 90% of the time under Wine (09/09/2000 build - YMMV). Only downside is that it's shareware (about $27 to register) but I just keep reinstalling it. Although I do like PySol and that other Gnome Solitare too. It'd be nice if GoodSol could port PGS2K to Linux though, it's pretty sweet.
Whenever we use IVF on an infertile woman, the doctor will throw away, typically, 6 to 15 embryo's. That is 6 to 15 Human Lives, according to some interpretations.
That would be a success rate of about 6% to 14%. Now to quote from the BBC article:
Dr Harry Griffin is assistant director of the Roslin Institute, Scotland, which successfully cloned Dolly the sheep. He Said...
"The success rate with animal cloning is about one to two per cent in the published results, and I think lower than that on average. I don't know anyone working in this area who thinks the rate will easily be improved.
"There are many cases where the cloned animal dies late in pregnancy or soon after birth.
"The chances of success are so low it would be irresponsible to encourage people to think there's a real prospect. The risks are too great for the woman, and of course for the child..."
In case you haven't noticed, we in These United States don't live in a Democracy. In fact, when you pledged your socialist allegiance to the flag in whatever school you went to, you said, "...and to the Republic, for which it stands."
That's funny, I could not count the number of times I've heard the term "The Greatest Democracy on Earth" used by Americans in reference to America. The phrase is rife in American films, as well as political speaches.
I guess they really mean "The Greatest Republic on Earth" then. That really makes a lot more sense. I always thought the USA had a lot in common with France, after all, they are both republics, and they're both nutorious for testing nuclear bombs.
Good thing that the tyranny of the majority isn't needed to elect another Hitler, in the USA it takes a lot less, in fact a few good friends in the supreme court can get the country goose stepping in no time, no need to wait for a full election.
Tyrrany of the majority indeed! Thanks there mister wea@allmax.com... oops!
If the brick was from a historic building or being sent for lab analysis, why the hell are you posting it in the general mail. You should be using a courier or hand delivering if it's that important.
Why should the government refund you the postage when the item was delivered but it was a stupid thing to post. The first thing I would think on seeing a brick is why the fuck would someone mail a brick except to piss off the mailpeople or to hide something.
If they thought it might be a bomb (and you could fit a pretty nasty bomb into the size of a brick) and they blew it up, that would leave, um a demolished brick. What should they do if they simply thought it MIGHT contain drugs, say to themselves "well it MIGHT contain drugs, but we can't be sure so well just have to deliver it and hope for the best".
Man, GROW UP. Scheech, lawsuit over a brick, you MUST be a yank (no offence to sane non-sueing US citizens)!
You might actually want to look at NetBSD. The whole point of the project is portability so I would guess that the kernal is designed to be very flexable and hackable, to allow it to accomadate many different architectures.
Anyway, one starting point could be this paper which discussess how to port the NetBSD kernal to a new architecture and could provide useful pointers (by the way, I've only just started CompSci this year, up till now I've just been a techie).
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It never occurred to me before that the GPL is also an "embrace and extend" strategy.
No it isn't. It's much closer to a "If you're not for us, your against us" tactic.
It says, "you can use our stuff, and make more stuff out of our stuff, but only if you lisence any resulting stuff the same".
Embrace and extend is like "we'll get our stuff to support your features and play nice with your system, but then well add more features to ours that you can't use", thus meaning that if you want to use the fancy new stuff you gotta use the extended and the extended ain't shared with the original authors.
So like I said, it's quite different.
No it isn't. It's much closer to a "If you're not for us, your against us" tactic.
It says, "you can use our stuff, and make more stuff out of our stuff, but only if you lisence any resulting stuff the same".
Embrace and extend is like "we'll get our stuff to support your features and play nice with your system, but then well add more features to ours that you can't use", thus meaning that if you want to use the fancy new stuff you gotta use the extended and the extended ain't shared with the original authors.
So like I said, it's quite different.
Doctor 3:00 AM?? Who's that?
When you're lying on your deathbed looking back on your life, or it's flashing before your eyes after a truck hits you, or whatever, that's the endpoint. If you're thinking "that was pretty worthwhile on the whole", you've won. If you're thinking "at last this whole shitty existence is over" you've lost.
But the relationship is not over. This again shows the flaw in most peoples thinking about such things. You see the relationship as something of yours that involves another person. It's not. It has an existence (or a reality) of it's own that is not extinguished by the death of a participant. It might be your endpoint (although I don't believe that it is, but that's a whole other discussion, and I believe that there is another existence beyond the physical and that those that pass on still care about those that have not yet joined them, but I digress) but not the endpoint for your partner who still cares about you, even though you've gone. So the relationship is still there, and can still benefit the other person.
I believe that is procreation and has nothing to do with life time relationships. It's possible to pass on ones genes with out being in a life time relationship (in fact I hear it happens quite a bit).
Actually I am. Five years now, one kid. Very happilly for the exact reason stated in my previous post.
I just remembered my biggest problem with this discussion. FINDING A LIFE PARTNER IS NOT A GAME WITH A FINITE END. In order for something to be considered zero-sum or non-zero-sum, there must be an end point. There is no end point in lifetime relationships, and the belief that getting to the stage of marriage or whatever as an end point, is the reason that so many people become disillusioned by the whole thing. Marriage or whatever is not the end point of a game, neither is it the starting point of another game, but a stage in the progress of life. It is the point that you choose to open up and share your life and experiences with another individual who wishes to do the same, and that is certainly NOT zero-sum!
You could try running for congress.
Firstly, you should not be out "looking" for a partner, like you look for a car. Mariage, or permanent relationships are not about "ownership" or "possession". It's not a competition to see who "has" the better partner. You are not "denying" that partner to anyone else. You are forming a partnership with another individual to establish a lifelong connection of mutual aid and intimacy.
I think you will find that not a lot of life is actually zero sum, unless you choose it to be. Also the people who DO see the world as zero sum are generally the ones who wish they had more or what the other person has and generally is not a happy person because of it. Always having to keep up with everyone else otherwise the're "losing" at life because other people are "better" than they are. Does this sound familiar to you?
The non zero sum phillosophy is good, because with it, no one loses unless they choose to lose.
picosatellite? I'd rather a visatellite, or emacssatellite!
Well, to use your list above whould it be:
- The odds are small, of Google acquiring such data.
- I think the odds are small, of Google acquiring such data.
- Do you think the odds are small or large, of Google acquiring such data?
- What do you think the odds are, of Google acquiring such data?
But all of that looks quite painfull to say (although I'm sure a lot of people I know would talk like that). I think it would be better like this:- The odds are small, that Google would acquire such data.
- I think the odds are small, that Google would acquire such data.
- Do you think the odds are small or large, that Google would acquire such data?
- What do you think the odds are, that Google acquire such data?
But even that looks wrong. Am I getting closer?A tombstone shape indicates the position of another vehicle or an obstacle.
Tombstone??? Are they trying to tell us something?
It'll sound much better coming from you and your current employer may actually see this as an extremely positive thing. I don't know what your current employer is like, but I would think that most sane employers would appreciate this gesture. It will also GREATLY reduce the impact of them hearing it from an external source.
Management is usually looking for employees who keep them informed of possible problems, and this gesture would only show maturity.
Best of luck.
Damien Byrne.
While I agree on the first point to some degree (particularly with package updating systems), I think you are confused about your second point. Nautilus is a file manager. Evolution is a mail client.
I believe he ment that installing Nautilus updated the libs that Evolution required, and now Evolution doesn't work.
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(mine bold) "Emulator an Not Is Wine" for algorithm recursive a is WINE
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Hey, that is more confusing.
Wrong. Windows is factored into the cost of the PC. I bought my most recent PC without Windows from a regular computer shop and saved ~AU$120.
3. Windows runs these games faster, and necessarily always will - emulation has to be slower, because there's two layers.
As others have pointed out, Wine is an implementation of the Win32 API, it should/will have the same overhead (approx) as the Windows implementation, there is no "extra layer".
4. Windows runs the games easier than WINE - you don't have to compile Windows for your PC like you do with Wine (you can get pre-built builds, but they don't work as well).
Yep, you don't have to compile Windows for each machine. But that is also a drawback. Windows is compiled to run well under ANY combination of Intel based hardware, it's not optimised for anything. If you could recompile Windows for your specific hardware believe me, most gamers would be tweeking their compiles till they got the last extra frame per second they could. In my opinion Windows is equivalent to precompiled wine binares, and these are in Beta now (finnaly out of alpha) so performace optimisations are not really setup for a general binary release, optimisations need to be set for your specific hardware and then debugged if neccessary. But once the finnal general releases of wine appear (a version one) you will still be able to get more performance out of the system by custom compiling the software for your specific needs. You don't have that option on Windows.
5. For WINE to work usably, you are required to have Windows on your PC (true: all those shots of Word running on Linux only happen because Linux is using the dlls and vxds)
You don't NEED Windows installed to run wine. The majority of the major runtime DLLs are somewhat supported. At the moment, having access to the real Windows DLLs will improve things, but that is becomming less and less important as time goes on. The goal is to be able to install and run standard Windows software, without a single piece of the official Windows OS installed. Wine will be able to install and run custom DLLs that come with other programs though.
etc.
How is that a question?
So why bother?
Why do this?
Simply put, choice. The choice of running the software you want on the platform you like. No big conspiracy, just choice.
Because they're too stupid to learn Emacs or Vi and they need they're precious Word!
Now what self respecting console promoting *NIX nut would be advocating BOTH EMACS AND VI!!!
Ummmmm, CTRL-ALT-F1?
Actually the Windows game Pretty Good Solitare 2K by GoodSol is a pretty fantastic soltiare game. It's got 330 games of solitare to choose from, and runs about 90% of the time under Wine (09/09/2000 build - YMMV). Only downside is that it's shareware (about $27 to register) but I just keep reinstalling it. Although I do like PySol and that other Gnome Solitare too. It'd be nice if GoodSol could port PGS2K to Linux though, it's pretty sweet.
That would be a success rate of about 6% to 14%. Now to quote from the BBC article:
Yeah, that sounds much better that IVF.
That's funny, I could not count the number of times I've heard the term "The Greatest Democracy on Earth" used by Americans in reference to America. The phrase is rife in American films, as well as political speaches.
I guess they really mean "The Greatest Republic on Earth" then. That really makes a lot more sense. I always thought the USA had a lot in common with France, after all, they are both republics, and they're both nutorious for testing nuclear bombs.
Good thing that the tyranny of the majority isn't needed to elect another Hitler, in the USA it takes a lot less, in fact a few good friends in the supreme court can get the country goose stepping in no time, no need to wait for a full election.
Tyrrany of the majority indeed! Thanks there mister wea@allmax.com ... oops!
- If the brick was from a historic building or being sent for lab analysis, why the hell are you posting it in the general mail. You should be using a courier or hand delivering if it's that important.
- Why should the government refund you the postage when the item was delivered but it was a stupid thing to post. The first thing I would think on seeing a brick is why the fuck would someone mail a brick except to piss off the mailpeople or to hide something.
- If they thought it might be a bomb (and you could fit a pretty nasty bomb into the size of a brick) and they blew it up, that would leave, um a demolished brick. What should they do if they simply thought it MIGHT contain drugs, say to themselves "well it MIGHT contain drugs, but we can't be sure so well just have to deliver it and hope for the best".
Man, GROW UP. Scheech, lawsuit over a brick, you MUST be a yank (no offence to sane non-sueing US citizens)!You're not?? Then WHO THE HELL WAS IT!!!!
Anyway, one starting point could be this paper which discussess how to port the NetBSD kernal to a new architecture and could provide useful pointers (by the way, I've only just started CompSci this year, up till now I've just been a techie).
Cheers.
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It's dumb, but that's MicroSoft for ya.