As of 11:50ish, a set of stories about this topic are now on google news. The ones I read cast it in the light of interfering with computer operation, and being potentially dangerous.
Just one little thought.... Even with the somewhat questionable numbers of the 'tests', there wasn't anything over about 2.5 seconds. I don't know about you, but I just don't think that thats a long enough time to really effect productivity.
I can get numbers like that too, if I turn off quickstart. MS office also has a quickstart. You just don't notice it. I expect that makes a bit of a difference.
Would it be so hard to gently urge someone onward, give them some books, show them some code that you deem worthy. Two of the major ways to learn code, IMO, is writing stuff yourself, screwing up, and fixing. The other is to study functional, quality code.... I've seen few books on programming that don't have some code in them, at least the ones meant to teach programming, as opposed to a reference book.
I learned fundamentals of coding before I tried to make pretty windows. I use VS, and I use the pretty window maker... to save some time on the base coding. I then proceed to change things to my liking. The API designer is a shortcut for experienced programmers, theoretically to save them time. If you don't like it, don't use it. As for the kid, maybe you should be showing him how the API works. Then he could start picking apart the code.
So, then you do easily agree that the 10-50% raises management gets yearly are grossly huge? The same things you claim decrease normal worker productivity have the same effect, possibly more, on the upper echelons. Where is their increase in productivity? Most of the people aren't complaining about how they don't get raises, but about how unfairly raises are distributed.
Which new DVD format I'm going to support. Although I expect HD-DVD to follow suit, they weren't dumb enough to annouce it. Of course, for most things, there's still no point to not just sticking with what we have, and show that we care via our wallets.
I think that game developers are still innovating. However, it is about the money, and I don't really blame them. For every new idea that comes out, there are 2 or 3 clones/remixes/whatevers. People keep buying them. The only issue is that it takes extra time to find the good ones. Oh well.
Though I'm not sure how this moved into a conversation about atheism, I guess I'll jump in.
I consider myself a logical person.
I believe in God.
I don't care about your defense, your attack, or how passionate you are.
I respect your opinion, but I don't share it. Since we won't find out who's right pretty much until we're both dead, the debate does us little good.
You know, we all laugh at this, but if any of you have ever been the victim of a crime, you'd really want the police to be able to solve it. In this increasingly digital world, its kinda scary to think that the police aren't keeping up with the criminals.
I'm sure someone will that they never have. Maybe that is true, but its getting worse.
Everyone that responded to this is right. Hell, I work with computers everyday, and I still have to use google to figure out what some of the processes running on my computer are. I have 40 processes, and I'm only running firefox, some AV software, and i-Tunes.
I agree that it's not what we want, but it is a stopgap. While the patent system is screwed up, its all we have to work with until we get people to see the truth.
Until they do, we have to defend ourselves with the weapons we have.
Thats about the only solution too....
We've got to be able to put out more money than the (i'm sure everyone else has plenty of explitives) RIAA and MPAA companies. Its not an easy task, but we have their incredible inefficiency in our favor
Anarchy may not be freedom, but I'm wondering how what we have is. The US is still probably #1 in freedom, but all through history, the loss of freedom was a gradual process, like slowly turning up the heat on a pot of seafood.
I know we need some protection of our markets, but how does exporting the DMCA help us?
Its not a hole in Firefox.... You choose whether or not to install a plugin. Firefox, without any extensions, is probably hundreds of times safer then IE. Comparing Firefox with a bad plugin installed to IE, which is full of holes out of the box, is like comparing a Ferrari with a flat tire to a old junker and saying the junker is better.
I find that with most of the people I know who get the fansub anime on torrents, they'll buy the DVD's.... when they're finally available. I have, my friends have. It's just that it can be years before anyone sees the new anime's come to the US, and probably even longer for other countries. It's kinda like releasing DVDs of something that was on TV, like CSI. People buy it because they like it.
Yeah, but I'm one of those computer students... If people started fixing their own computers, I'd be out a lot of my spending money.
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The problem is, the MPAA/RIAA has a bit of trouble telling the difference. They see the words torrent, download, or file, and they just attack it. Remember the "illegal file finder" they released, you know, the one that marked every media file you have, including the ones in the games?
The questions may have been a tad hostile, but the points are valid.
How many people does it take before someone takes action? How long should we have to wait for a relativly simple piece of software?
All this talk makes me nervous about my rights. Therefore, any Americans should do like I'm going to, and e-mail my senators. If the US Senate doesn't ratify the treaty, then the signature means nothing. We should do something now, as opposed to after they start hauling people off.
http://www.senate.gov
Go there, find your senators, send some e-mail.
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As of 11:50ish, a set of stories about this topic are now on google news. The ones I read cast it in the light of interfering with computer operation, and being potentially dangerous.
Just one little thought.... Even with the somewhat questionable numbers of the 'tests', there wasn't anything over about 2.5 seconds. I don't know about you, but I just don't think that thats a long enough time to really effect productivity.
I can get numbers like that too, if I turn off quickstart. MS office also has a quickstart. You just don't notice it. I expect that makes a bit of a difference.
Would it be so hard to gently urge someone onward, give them some books, show them some code that you deem worthy. Two of the major ways to learn code, IMO, is writing stuff yourself, screwing up, and fixing. The other is to study functional, quality code.... I've seen few books on programming that don't have some code in them, at least the ones meant to teach programming, as opposed to a reference book.
I learned fundamentals of coding before I tried to make pretty windows. I use VS, and I use the pretty window maker... to save some time on the base coding. I then proceed to change things to my liking. The API designer is a shortcut for experienced programmers, theoretically to save them time. If you don't like it, don't use it. As for the kid, maybe you should be showing him how the API works. Then he could start picking apart the code.
So, then you do easily agree that the 10-50% raises management gets yearly are grossly huge? The same things you claim decrease normal worker productivity have the same effect, possibly more, on the upper echelons. Where is their increase in productivity? Most of the people aren't complaining about how they don't get raises, but about how unfairly raises are distributed.
If you think about it. Apple has this huge profit from iTunes. The record companies are getting some large percentage of it.
Threatening to cut Apple off is like threatening to shoot yourself in the foot unless someone puts down their gun.
Jobs is probably sitting in his home/office, laughing.
You also should remember the fact that people are listening to their iPods a lot more than they used to.
Which new DVD format I'm going to support. Although I expect HD-DVD to follow suit, they weren't dumb enough to annouce it. Of course, for most things, there's still no point to not just sticking with what we have, and show that we care via our wallets.
I think that game developers are still innovating. However, it is about the money, and I don't really blame them. For every new idea that comes out, there are 2 or 3 clones/remixes/whatevers. People keep buying them. The only issue is that it takes extra time to find the good ones. Oh well.
Though I'm not sure how this moved into a conversation about atheism, I guess I'll jump in. I consider myself a logical person. I believe in God. I don't care about your defense, your attack, or how passionate you are. I respect your opinion, but I don't share it. Since we won't find out who's right pretty much until we're both dead, the debate does us little good.
You know, we all laugh at this, but if any of you have ever been the victim of a crime, you'd really want the police to be able to solve it. In this increasingly digital world, its kinda scary to think that the police aren't keeping up with the criminals.
I'm sure someone will that they never have. Maybe that is true, but its getting worse.
Everyone that responded to this is right. Hell, I work with computers everyday, and I still have to use google to figure out what some of the processes running on my computer are. I have 40 processes, and I'm only running firefox, some AV software, and i-Tunes.
I agree that it's not what we want, but it is a stopgap. While the patent system is screwed up, its all we have to work with until we get people to see the truth.
Until they do, we have to defend ourselves with the weapons we have.
Thats about the only solution too.... We've got to be able to put out more money than the (i'm sure everyone else has plenty of explitives) RIAA and MPAA companies. Its not an easy task, but we have their incredible inefficiency in our favor
Anarchy may not be freedom, but I'm wondering how what we have is. The US is still probably #1 in freedom, but all through history, the loss of freedom was a gradual process, like slowly turning up the heat on a pot of seafood.
I know we need some protection of our markets, but how does exporting the DMCA help us?
I suppose it would be silly to mention say... headsets at this point. That way the actual phone is not next to our heads.
BTW - I think those wireless sets defeat the purpose, at least as far as this topic goes.
Its not a hole in Firefox....
You choose whether or not to install a plugin.
Firefox, without any extensions, is probably hundreds of times safer then IE. Comparing Firefox with a bad plugin installed to IE, which is full of holes out of the box, is like comparing a Ferrari with a flat tire to a old junker and saying the junker is better.
I find that with most of the people I know who get the fansub anime on torrents, they'll buy the DVD's.... when they're finally available. I have, my friends have. It's just that it can be years before anyone sees the new anime's come to the US, and probably even longer for other countries. It's kinda like releasing DVDs of something that was on TV, like CSI. People buy it because they like it.
Yeah, but I'm one of those computer students...
If people started fixing their own computers, I'd be out a lot of my spending money.
The problem is, the MPAA/RIAA has a bit of trouble telling the difference. They see the words torrent, download, or file, and they just attack it. Remember the "illegal file finder" they released, you know, the one that marked every media file you have, including the ones in the games?
The questions may have been a tad hostile, but the points are valid. How many people does it take before someone takes action? How long should we have to wait for a relativly simple piece of software?
All this talk makes me nervous about my rights. Therefore, any Americans should do like I'm going to, and e-mail my senators. If the US Senate doesn't ratify the treaty, then the signature means nothing. We should do something now, as opposed to after they start hauling people off. http://www.senate.gov Go there, find your senators, send some e-mail.