Then it would be too thick. (even if you stacked no un-needed material)
The point is that volumetric solutions do not work for high heat densities, and are impractable from a package standpoint. There are some instances where a genuinely volumetric die could work _and_ make sense at the same time. In the case of cellular phones that is not the case. The package needs to be no more than 1-2mm thick in order to satisfy size requirements.
Also, aside from the substrate used for stiffening the die, the tickest part is the several layers of metal used to interconnect all the transistors in a meaningful way. A die will always be thicker than it is wide on a per transistor basis, unless you can come up with an interconnect technology more efficent than copper and without the oxidation issues (which are already bad enough). -nB
Ah, but we do! While an individual die is not volumetric, there are provisions (and chips available) that stack up to 6 die in a 1.5mm package (4-flash & 2-(p)srams, or 2-flash 1-(p)sram & 1 processor). Thus the integrated circuit as a whole is volumetric.
"He didn't sign a contract when he got the boxes?"
Actually he did. In order to obtain those boxes he had to agree that they were for use shipping FedEx express services. By making furnature he breached that agreement.
FedEx would be fully in the right if they sued him for restitution of the cost of the boxes (including delivery). Unfortunately for FedEx the lawyer is an idiot and sued over non valid issues. -nB
True, but in my experience designers leave signals like that exposed on the board for debugging. Of course, later revs may remove that out, but here's hoping:-) -nB
NO, that is accounted for in the 5 year crossover point, and actually was the reason it was a couple hundred dollars higher than gas. What has changed since then is that with gasonline prices increasing at a faster rate than electricity prices, the crossover point now is 2.5 to 3 years.
Finally, in a preemptive counter to the "displaced pollution" argument, it is far easier to generate power (of any type) in a large single facility cleanly than it is to generate that power distributed over several endpoints (Cars in this example).
While electric power is not the answer for people who are on the road all day long or have painfully long distance commutes, it is ideal as a "daily driver" for most people. -nB
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It was perfectly practable for a commuter car. battery expense ammortized over 5 years (expected lifespan) yeilded a cost only slightly higher than gas prices of the time (by a few hundred dollars). With fuel costs expected to rise (which they have) the crossover point for the battery pack is 2.5-3 years. -nB
I like my ISP. I ost a gripe site, which is obviously not popular with the company. They sent a C&D e-mail to my ISP and to me. My ISP said blow me, talk to the admin, the site is not against our TOS we won't shut it down.
While they are not the feds, I hear about many ISPs terminating a site because a large company sicks their lawyers on the host rather than the admin.
I'll buy one when Halo3 launches. I own many many xboxes. I also own many many copies (retail) of Halo and Halo2, but nothing else. When not gaming they all run XBMC to stream content. -nB
only really applies to government censorship anyway. for example my domain: http://farmersreallysucks.com/ is the subject of attempted corporate censorship. If I didn't live in a state with rules against SLAPP suits they would have succeded in closing down my site.
Happens all the time to gripe sites. They are legal, but repeated lawsuits leave the host and/or content creator without funds to continue. -nB
some numbers not quite out my ass: ( http://www.finfacts.com/brands.htm ) CocaCola: $67bn Microsoft: $61bn IBM: $54bn GE: $44bn Intel: $34bn Disney: $27bn
so, yeah brands are worth some money. If I was vista I would have waited and made them re-brand their software after the boxes and disks were printed but before they hit the stores;) -nB
because the greens are enviromentalist wackos and the Libertarians never seem to make the ballot. so I cast my vote to steer the country in the less objectional direction (according to me at least). -nB
Also as an aside, too much of anything is bad, and frankly while I may not be thrilled with Bush, I still vote red because the blue side of the aisle frustrates me even more. -nB
Golly, should have put my reply with yours. I'd sign up for the free phone service just for the entertainment value (unless they prohibit it, in which case nevermind) http://www.xs4all.nl/~egbg/counterscript.html -nB
Dunno about phone service but I use them as subsedised entertainment: http://www.xs4all.nl/~egbg/counterscript.html I keep a copy at the phone. If I don't have time for it I just hang up on them instead.
Really is fun. Two memorable calls: 1) I got yelled at by a super about wasting their time. 2) Some girl broke down at the "why are you doing it then" and started crying. I got uncomfortable and hung up on her:P -nB
Anybody have a genisis device?:( Actually shed tears at work. Had to come out of the closet about being a trekkie/er (even though I never thought so till now). -nB
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Then it would be too thick.
(even if you stacked no un-needed material)
The point is that volumetric solutions do not work for high heat densities, and are impractable from a package standpoint. There are some instances where a genuinely volumetric die could work _and_ make sense at the same time. In the case of cellular phones that is not the case. The package needs to be no more than 1-2mm thick in order to satisfy size requirements.
Also, aside from the substrate used for stiffening the die, the tickest part is the several layers of metal used to interconnect all the transistors in a meaningful way. A die will always be thicker than it is wide on a per transistor basis, unless you can come up with an interconnect technology more efficent than copper and without the oxidation issues (which are already bad enough).
-nB
"since as yet we have no truely volumetric ICs"
Ah, but we do!
While an individual die is not volumetric, there are provisions (and chips available) that stack up to 6 die in a 1.5mm package (4-flash & 2-(p)srams, or 2-flash 1-(p)sram & 1 processor). Thus the integrated circuit as a whole is volumetric.
-nB
So you sue him for the cost of boxes, and possibly trademark infringement.
The DMCA bit is still absurd.
-nB
"He didn't sign a contract when he got the boxes?"
Actually he did.
In order to obtain those boxes he had to agree that they were for use shipping FedEx express services.
By making furnature he breached that agreement.
FedEx would be fully in the right if they sued him for restitution of the cost of the boxes (including delivery). Unfortunately for FedEx the lawyer is an idiot and sued over non valid issues.
-nB
True, but in my experience designers leave signals like that exposed on the board for debugging. :-)
Of course, later revs may remove that out, but here's hoping
-nB
there is one pin on all (current) NOR (boot rom) flash technology, that when held in a high state disables writing to the flash device.
Sounds like a dead easy fix to me.
-nB
NO, that is accounted for in the 5 year crossover point, and actually was the reason it was a couple hundred dollars higher than gas. What has changed since then is that with gasonline prices increasing at a faster rate than electricity prices, the crossover point now is 2.5 to 3 years.
Finally, in a preemptive counter to the "displaced pollution" argument, it is far easier to generate power (of any type) in a large single facility cleanly than it is to generate that power distributed over several endpoints (Cars in this example).
While electric power is not the answer for people who are on the road all day long or have painfully long distance commutes, it is ideal as a "daily driver" for most people.
-nB
It was perfectly practable for a commuter car.
battery expense ammortized over 5 years (expected lifespan) yeilded a cost only slightly higher than gas prices of the time (by a few hundred dollars). With fuel costs expected to rise (which they have) the crossover point for the battery pack is 2.5-3 years.
-nB
I like my ISP.
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I ost a gripe site, which is obviously not popular with the company. They sent a C&D e-mail to my ISP and to me.
My ISP said blow me, talk to the admin, the site is not against our TOS we won't shut it down.
While they are not the feds, I hear about many ISPs terminating a site because a large company sicks their lawyers on the host rather than the admin.
the site (if you're interested) is http://farmersreallysucks.com/
The takedown notice is a good read:
http://farmersreallysucks.com/E1_First_Takedown.h
-nB
"Oh shit! And I'm at ground zero!"
/. culture.
As am I.
That was genuinely funny, but also an amazingly insightful look at the
-nB
I'll buy one when Halo3 launches. I own many many xboxes. I also own many many copies (retail) of Halo and Halo2, but nothing else. When not gaming they all run XBMC to stream content.
-nB
yes but 10 in US vs 7 in china?
I'll take the US.
-nB
Dude,
The spec is free to look at, it only costs money if you want to go commercial (A.K.A. Licence fee).
In that regard it is quite cheap.
-nB
good to know.
planning a re-design of the site soon anyway.
-nB
only really applies to government censorship anyway.
for example my domain:
http://farmersreallysucks.com/
is the subject of attempted corporate censorship. If I didn't live in a state with rules against SLAPP suits they would have succeded in closing down my site.
Happens all the time to gripe sites. They are legal, but repeated lawsuits leave the host and/or content creator without funds to continue.
-nB
//Lovely.
So I'll submit a patent, bid a gazillion dollars and get my money back when nobody matched my bid +$1.
-nB
some numbers not quite out my ass:
;)
( http://www.finfacts.com/brands.htm )
CocaCola: $67bn
Microsoft: $61bn
IBM: $54bn
GE: $44bn
Intel: $34bn
Disney: $27bn
so, yeah brands are worth some money. If I was vista I would have waited and made them re-brand their software after the boxes and disks were printed but before they hit the stores
-nB
because the greens are enviromentalist wackos and the Libertarians never seem to make the ballot.
so I cast my vote to steer the country in the less objectional direction (according to me at least).
-nB
Not too bad an idea.
kind of along the lines of "real men backup to the usenet" or something along those lines.
I'd go for it, but how do you move the data? most people (in the US) are really strapped for upload BW.
-nB
just forget. (does not help if you have them written down anywhere though.
.avi files, those are already expected to be huge.
Also, store encrypted volumes in
-nB
Too bad but I don't think that's legal.
Also as an aside, too much of anything is bad, and frankly while I may not be thrilled with Bush, I still vote red because the blue side of the aisle frustrates me even more.
-nB
Golly, should have put my reply with yours. I'd sign up for the free phone service just for the entertainment value (unless they prohibit it, in which case nevermind)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~egbg/counterscript.html
-nB
Dunno about phone service but I use them as subsedised entertainment:
:P
http://www.xs4all.nl/~egbg/counterscript.html
I keep a copy at the phone. If I don't have time for it I just hang up on them instead.
Really is fun. Two memorable calls:
1) I got yelled at by a super about wasting their time.
2) Some girl broke down at the "why are you doing it then" and started crying. I got uncomfortable and hung up on her
-nB
Anybody have a genisis device? :(
Actually shed tears at work. Had to come out of the closet about being a trekkie/er (even though I never thought so till now).
-nB