I wonder if this is even legal. I know the summary said "loophole", but how big is this thing and can someone come up with an invasion of privacy or some such to combat it in court? -nB
I'd love to see the specs. Show me one PC that can source 4Gbps off of it's I/O bus. That's faster than a single PCIe lane. Desktop boards supporting faster, multi-lane PCIe are only now coming to market. There aren't even many NICs that can support over 1Gbps. Myrinet only supports 2 gig, Infiniband supports 10Gig and in theory could support 40 gig. I suspect that the machine you are talking about is not a desktop class machine. Load generators are the accepted standard unit of speed measurement. Whether or not you want to accept it, using a PC is for publicty, not testing. Have it your way if you want though, I really don't care. -nB
Let me quote myself: "This is something no PC and exceptionally few server class machines can do." I think I have your statement covered. I know what I'm talking about, I also know that the standard way to test a router is with the test tools I outline previously, not a group of PCs. but hey, you're the one with the respectable handle:P -nB
I call BS. What counts is your ability to put that data on the line. This is something no PC and exceptionally few server class machines can do. With the advent of PCIe we are beginning to see PC's that conceivably could saturate a gig link, though even then they would have trouble. -nB
I used one of these to demonstrate to the IT department of my megacorp exactally why my networking lab needed it's own isolated subnet on its own Cat6K, and its own servers. Once I started pumping out thousands of frames per second of random IP and MAC addresses their routers started dying under the loads. I got everything I asked for:-) -nB
Yes, it is murder, when someone deliberately targets Civilians. That is why I bitch about all four of the planes and two of the buildings hit on 9/11; they were all civilians. The pentagon, however, was a legitimate target, as it is a seat of government and a military command center. (so long as we're talking war here). -nB
According to the article we should focus on only one task at a time and not switch between tasks.
This leaves me with two/.ish things to say: 1) I will then focus all my attention on this thread until such time as I deem the task complete or 2) As I focus myself on this threa . . . Oh look a new thingy to work on!
This leads me to wonder if ADD / ADHD are actually coping mechanisms of the human mind? It kind of makes sense, as our brains are programmed for task switching at an early age with most kids being babysat by the TV and commercials being 30 seconds in length. Anybody know how long the feature program is between commercial breaks? 12 minutes perhaps? -nB
Oh yea, Adobe just lost out on $600 (or however much Photoshop costs, nowadays) because I downloaded their program that I will NEVER buy.
Adobe didn't lose that sale because they can't lose what they've never had to begin with. That's why IP "piracy" is not stealing.
Your sense of entitlement is both appalling and saddening to me. It is people with this attitude which cause the fed to side with the xxIA and Disney every single time. It is why all the Big Corps are moving to such severe DRMs.
IP theft is _theft_. There is no way around that. If I spend $20M developing a product and expect to sell 1M copies, then to provide for a profit margin and pay for overhead (distribution, the lights, property taxes, etc.) I need to sell the software for at least $60.00 based on conventional margin estimates. The fact that an individual copy of the program costs $5.00 to produce and ship does not mean you are entitled to it for that price. When you rip off Adobe for Photoshop, you are _stealing_ from them. If you use the argument: "I wouldn't have bought it" then you are both a hypocrite and a thief, as you should not be using it because it is not yours.
If I produce something and don't mind people using it for only their bandwidth to download it, I'll post it as shareware. Otherwise I expect to be paid for my work. Ultimately this results in my making the software available for download but requiring a hardware dongle in order to use the software package. In the case of anything I develop, that dongle is likely going to double the price of the software. You have just provided the proof why everyone is screwed. -nB
True, but I don't know that the punishment is unjust. It partially depends on where he is incarserated. I realise this is a long sentance, but he did pirate quite a bit of software. This is not a troll, it is a point ov view from someone in the Tech industry. -nB
Nothing too major, but I thought a pushbutton was a momentary switch and it wasn't. I held the button down, did my PSA, flubbed it, let go of the button and proceeded to give a colourful commentary about how I thought I did. Enough people complained that I went bye bye. -nB
I don't know actually. I can get three Xboxes for the cost of one of those boards... That and I'm not a huge TV person anyway. As to Hamming and what not, I had my FCC licence revoked some years ago, so I'll need to move if I'm going to get back on the air. -nB
Hey, I have a VXI chassis I was wondering what to do with. I so far have a Mains supply for the backplane, and a dc power supply. I have 8 open slots left (which means I could fit 8 of these by the looks of them). Hmmm... Wish I was more into this stuff I might dedicate a couple hundred to acquiring one of these boards. -nB
I wish I still had mod points... That is excellent thinking, and more of what we need. At the very least a new dev can see what's been done before and _didn't_ work, thus averting the creation of more oss crap, and hopefully resulting in more oss gold instead. -nB
Not trolling here, but that illustrates how M$ and Windows are being successful.
If this (LSB) actually takes off it could be what allows *nix to displace windows in the Joe Sixpack Desktop. All Joe currently knows is that he has a windows computer, so he looks for software that says Windows on it. With this as a replacement Joe's information complexity does not change just =~s/windows/LSB/g and Joe's happy.
What I see here instead is: 1) My way of implementing portability is best(Java) 2) No it's not (Python) 3) You're right, mine is (PERL)
Whatever people. Until the developers can agree on a minimum compatibility spec that can be advertised (possibly LSB) Linux will only be in the data center. -nB
negotiation of compensation is something that exempts may worry about, but for the non-exempts in high tech this does not happen. That is why in other industries non-exempt employees have collective barganing agreements otherwise known as Unions. -nB
no, they will cease to give out options this is already known to all the non-exempt staff at my office.
Even the title blurb states that options were given out because they did not hit the books. Now they do. So they're gone. These were considered a perk not compensation. We will not get anything else. Thanks FASB, you bunch of cocksucking asshats
If I could transfer a stack of NQO's that I got at the top of the bubble I would. Then I wouldn't have as much red in my account. As it is in 10 years or so they'll age out anyway. -nB
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I wonder if this is even legal. I know the summary said "loophole", but how big is this thing and can someone come up with an invasion of privacy or some such to combat it in court?
-nB
I'd love to see the specs.
Show me one PC that can source 4Gbps off of it's I/O bus. That's faster than a single PCIe lane. Desktop boards supporting faster, multi-lane PCIe are only now coming to market. There aren't even many NICs that can support over 1Gbps. Myrinet only supports 2 gig, Infiniband supports 10Gig and in theory could support 40 gig. I suspect that the machine you are talking about is not a desktop class machine.
Load generators are the accepted standard unit of speed measurement. Whether or not you want to accept it, using a PC is for publicty, not testing.
Have it your way if you want though, I really don't care.
-nB
Let me quote myself: :P
"This is something no PC and exceptionally few server class machines can do."
I think I have your statement covered.
I know what I'm talking about, I also know that the standard way to test a router is with the test tools I outline previously, not a group of PCs.
but hey, you're the one with the respectable handle
-nB
We don't have to declare war to be a target of one.
It's fairly simple really. The pentagon is a legitimate military target.
-nB
I call BS.
What counts is your ability to put that data on the line. This is something no PC and exceptionally few server class machines can do.
With the advent of PCIe we are beginning to see PC's that conceivably could saturate a gig link, though even then they would have trouble.
-nB
No they rely on things like this:f m?pl=33&wt=2 y .php?skey=ch_1600t_400t_100
:-)
http://www.spirentcom.com/analysis/product_line.c
and this:
http://www.ixiacom.com/products/chassis/ch_displa
I used one of these to demonstrate to the IT department of my megacorp exactally why my networking lab needed it's own isolated subnet on its own Cat6K, and its own servers.
Once I started pumping out thousands of frames per second of random IP and MAC addresses their routers started dying under the loads.
I got everything I asked for
-nB
Yes, it is murder, when someone deliberately targets Civilians. That is why I bitch about all four of the planes and two of the buildings hit on 9/11; they were all civilians. The pentagon, however, was a legitimate target, as it is a seat of government and a military command center. (so long as we're talking war here).
-nB
So fitting. I was blinded by the laser
-nB
According to the article we should focus on only one task at a time and not switch between tasks.
/.ish things to say:
This leaves me with two
1) I will then focus all my attention on this thread until such time as I deem the task complete
or
2) As I focus myself on this threa . . . Oh look a new thingy to work on!
This leads me to wonder if ADD / ADHD are actually coping mechanisms of the human mind? It kind of makes sense, as our brains are programmed for task switching at an early age with most kids being babysat by the TV and commercials being 30 seconds in length. Anybody know how long the feature program is between commercial breaks? 12 minutes perhaps?
-nB
Oh yea, Adobe just lost out on $600 (or however much Photoshop costs, nowadays) because I downloaded their program that I will NEVER buy.
Adobe didn't lose that sale because they can't lose what they've never had to begin with. That's why IP "piracy" is not stealing.
Your sense of entitlement is both appalling and saddening to me. It is people with this attitude which cause the fed to side with the xxIA and Disney every single time. It is why all the Big Corps are moving to such severe DRMs.
IP theft is _theft_. There is no way around that. If I spend $20M developing a product and expect to sell 1M copies, then to provide for a profit margin and pay for overhead (distribution, the lights, property taxes, etc.) I need to sell the software for at least $60.00 based on conventional margin estimates. The fact that an individual copy of the program costs $5.00 to produce and ship does not mean you are entitled to it for that price. When you rip off Adobe for Photoshop, you are _stealing_ from them. If you use the argument: "I wouldn't have bought it" then you are both a hypocrite and a thief, as you should not be using it because it is not yours.
If I produce something and don't mind people using it for only their bandwidth to download it, I'll post it as shareware. Otherwise I expect to be paid for my work. Ultimately this results in my making the software available for download but requiring a hardware dongle in order to use the software package. In the case of anything I develop, that dongle is likely going to double the price of the software. You have just provided the proof why everyone is screwed.
-nB
"you end up with a design that works."
We shall see.
-nB
True, but I don't know that the punishment is unjust. It partially depends on where he is incarserated. I realise this is a long sentance, but he did pirate quite a bit of software.
This is not a troll, it is a point ov view from someone in the Tech industry.
-nB
Well then, I stand corrected. :oops:
-nB
I do believe you have that backwards.
class I = most damage
-nB
Nothing too major, but I thought a pushbutton was a momentary switch and it wasn't. I held the button down, did my PSA, flubbed it, let go of the button and proceeded to give a colourful commentary about how I thought I did. Enough people complained that I went bye bye.
-nB
no, that one it real. . .
I promise.
-nB
I don't know actually. I can get three Xboxes for the cost of one of those boards...
That and I'm not a huge TV person anyway.
As to Hamming and what not, I had my FCC licence revoked some years ago, so I'll need to move if I'm going to get back on the air.
-nB
Hey, I have a VXI chassis I was wondering what to do with. I so far have a Mains supply for the backplane, and a dc power supply. I have 8 open slots left (which means I could fit 8 of these by the looks of them). Hmmm... Wish I was more into this stuff I might dedicate a couple hundred to acquiring one of these boards.
-nB
I wish I still had mod points...
That is excellent thinking, and more of what we need. At the very least a new dev can see what's been done before and _didn't_ work, thus averting the creation of more oss crap, and hopefully resulting in more oss gold instead.
-nB
Not trolling here, but that illustrates how M$ and Windows are being successful.
If this (LSB) actually takes off it could be what allows *nix to displace windows in the Joe Sixpack Desktop. All Joe currently knows is that he has a windows computer, so he looks for software that says Windows on it. With this as a replacement Joe's information complexity does not change just =~s/windows/LSB/g and Joe's happy.
What I see here instead is:
1) My way of implementing portability is best(Java)
2) No it's not (Python)
3) You're right, mine is (PERL)
Whatever people. Until the developers can agree on a minimum compatibility spec that can be advertised (possibly LSB) Linux will only be in the data center.
-nB
"Does anybody even make any full-height drives anymore?"
I don't think so, though I wish they would. If I can get 400GB in a 3.5 inch 1/3 height drive, immagine what I could get in a 5.25 inch FH drive?
Of course, 5 standard 1/3H drives fit in the same physical space as an old FH drive, so maybe I should go with 1.2TB and a parity drive instead.
-nB
Betamax, not VHS.
I know: mod self "-1 nitpick"
-nB
negotiation of compensation is something that exempts may worry about, but for the non-exempts in high tech this does not happen. That is why in other industries non-exempt employees have collective barganing agreements otherwise known as Unions.
-nB
no, they will cease to give out options this is already known to all the non-exempt staff at my office.
Even the title blurb states that options were given out because they did not hit the books. Now they do. So they're gone.
These were considered a perk not compensation. We will not get anything else. Thanks FASB, you bunch of cocksucking asshats
-nB
If I could transfer a stack of NQO's that I got at the top of the bubble I would. Then I wouldn't have as much red in my account. As it is in 10 years or so they'll age out anyway.
-nB