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Alek's Christmas Lights: Humbug

g00set writes "Alek's Christmas lights story was previously covered on Slashdot here, however the Denver Channel is now reporting that it was all a hoax: 'The Lafayette man said he accomplished the trickery by taking 12 "base" photographs of the house with lights on and off and then constructed a Web page that appeared to show lights going on and off when the Web visitor clicked.'"

327 comments

  1. Season's greetings! by NormalVisual · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ho ho hoax!

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    1. Re:Season's greetings! by robyannetta · · Score: 2, Funny

      I hope there was extra bandwidth charges brought on by the Slashdot Effect. That'll teach him!

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    2. Re:Season's greetings! by ranson · · Score: 1

      To all those News stations that are upset about the hoax, imagine the anxiety suffered by children everywhere who, upon learning that there's no such thing as Santa, realize that your "Santa Tracker" satellite is nothing but a big hoax. Well, except the "bad" kids whose parents sold their toys on eBay. The media ate that one up too, so hopefully it turns out to be a hoax as well!

  2. Oh, the humanity by CodeWanker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thank God the rest of the internet is hoax-free. Now I can get back to my penis enlargement pill popping and free ipod winning in peace.

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    1. Re:Oh, the humanity by gekman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      "I'm not looking for work right now, but I WOULD like a Pacific Rim job."

      You have, like a death wish?

      Oh, wait, I get it. It's a veiled sexual reference.

      Nevermind.

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    2. Re:Oh, the humanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had my penis enlarged. Now I go to the batting cage whenever I get a woody.

    3. Re:Oh, the humanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since it's obvious you don't believe in anything you'll fall for everything. The free ipods isn't a hoax. Get a clue.

    4. Re:Oh, the humanity by cammoblammo · · Score: 1

      So you use Debian stable too? When I first installed it, I nearly took it out to the batting cage for a good whuppin'.

      Oh wait...

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    5. Re:Oh, the humanity by Cryptnotic · · Score: 1

      Since it's obvious you don't believe in anything you'll fall for everything. The free ipods isn't a hoax. Get a clue.

      It may not be a hoax, but it's not really free. It's "sign up for services and sell your friends' personal information for an iPod".

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    6. Re:Oh, the humanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what's a Pacific Rimjob?

    7. Re:Oh, the humanity by sydres · · Score: 1

      I won't explain

  3. Well... by tekiegreg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How many times can you piss off the neighbors before the homeowner's association punishes you, coupled with the desire to please your audience?

    Still though, oh the humanity Alek, couldn't you just leave one string of lights internet controlled next year? Wouldn't be too bad...

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    1. Re:Well... by Heem · · Score: 1

      Evidently it's about 12.

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    2. Re:Well... by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      why oh why would anyone ever join a HOA? everything ive EVER heard about them has been negative.

    3. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's so people can't paint their driveway green and their house purple, etc...

    4. Re:Well... by tekiegreg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Generally you don't get much of a choice, it's a condition of you buying a house in that given neighborhood.

      However yeah I'd agree with you and at least attempt to make sure any house I bought was a non HOA area. Granted I really don't care what color the house is painted, and noise issues are often handled by the police, etc...

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    5. Re:Well... by plover · · Score: 4, Interesting
      We formed an HOA. It turned out that our cul-de-sac was owned by the property developer who built our housing development, and was never turned over to the city as an official street. He went belly up, and then went delinquent on the property taxes.

      Then the snow stopped getting plowed. Nothing like incentive.

      The seven of us homeowners purchased the lot for back taxes, and then we paid for snow plowing, garbage collection, insurance, maintenance and property taxes out of the dues we collect. We were able to strike a multi-family deal with a garbage hauler so that we actually pay less in dues for all of the above services than we did for single family garbage collection! Also, we haven't raised dues once in the 11 years since we formed the association.

      When I wrote the association by-laws, I purposely omitted everything related to exterior appearance or maintenance. Sure, I wish the guy across the street would mow his lawn more often, but BFD. It sure beats having a committee decide on your house color, or painting your house then billing you.

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    6. Re:Well... by einTier · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You might as well say, "why do we have zoning laws."

      I hate my HOA, but do I understand why it's there. When I was 12, someone was given the land next to my parents' house and they immediately plopped a trailer home down on it. Never mind the fact there were no hookups or anything, they just cleared some of the brush, put up an outhouse, and plopped their shitty trailer home on their new land.

      Needless to say, property values plummeted overnight. It took a determined group of neighbors to buy out the guy and return our neighborhood to normalicy.

      HOA's just take that and zoning laws a little further. Basically, no one can do anything that might devalue your property. Many people see their home as an investment, not just a place to live, and they welcome this. Of course, it means that you have to give up a bit of your freedom as well. Good HOA's aren't that restrictive, and just make sure that you don't put a car up on blocks in your front lawn and never cut the yard. More restrictive ones might tell you how often you're going to paint your house.

      The main problem with HOA's is that they tend to get populated with exactly the wrong kind of people. Who runs for the HOA offices? People with too much free time that like to stick their noses in other people's business. This thought pattern is really hard to overcome and root out once it gets in there, and most people don't realize who's running until it's too late. The busybodies will form a voting block, and the rest of the neighborhood will be just disorganized enough to not be able to get them out. That's when things go to shit. Not really, because the neighborhood looks nice, but neighbors start hating neighbors, and those (like me) who get disgusted with it simply move it. The busybodies like it too much to move, and the new blood takes too long to figure out the HOA isn't their friends.

      Christ. I'm ranting. Look, I hate my HOA. However, I understand that it's a great idea corrupted by misguided people. As much as I hate it, I would have serious reservations about moving into a neighborhood without one.

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    7. Re:Well... by zaroastra · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      The main problem with HOA's is that they tend to get populated with exactly the wrong kind of people. Who runs for the HOA offices? People with too much free time that like to stick their noses in other people's business. This thought pattern is really hard to overcome and root out once it gets in there, and most people don't realize who's running until it's too late. The busybodies will form a voting block, and the rest of the neighborhood will be just disorganized enough to not be able to get them out. That's when things go to shit.

      Thats democracy... put it nation wide and you will end up... who knows, electing bush?

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    8. Re:Well... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 1

      Your comments are very true. But you know you can chase the busybodies off by simply being EVIL to them when they try to talk to you. Start screaming at them if they ask you to do something that you find annoying. Keep your house in good condition, so that nobody has any real reason to come talk to you about legitimate problems, and make anyone who trys to bother you over anything else reluctant to call again.

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    9. Re:Well... by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 1

      Needless to say, property values plummeted overnight. It took a determined group of neighbors to buy out the guy and return our neighborhood to normalicy.

      A thicket of fast-growing trees would have been cheaper. Was the guy also obnoxious with dogs penned up in the yard next to three rotting unlicensed cars?

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    10. Re:Well... by whoopass · · Score: 1

      Insightful? This is off topic. What do HOA have to do with non-existant blinking lights on someone's house? Good grief Charlie Brown.

    11. Re:Well... by ddimas · · Score: 1

      We don't have a home owners association where I live and I wouldn't have bought my house here if we did. If somebody wants to tell me how to maintain my property they can PAY MY F***ING MORTGAGE AND TAXES.

      If I want to put a trailer home on my property what buisiness is it of yours? As long as I keep it neat and clean you have no rights whatsoever. No one objects when I build a mansion next to your trailer park.

      Unless my property constitutes a hazard or a civily defined eyesore, they have no right to tell me anything.

    12. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he main problem with HOA's is that they tend to get populated with exactly the wrong kind of people. Who runs for the HOA offices? People with too much free time that like to stick their noses in other people's business

      you mean retirees that have nothing else better to do.

      THAT is the problem I see in mine. although I absolutely LOVE HOA's. I came from a normal city location, upscalish that went from nice to living with white trash and idiot young families in a 5 year period. (Yes you 20 somethings that are too stupid to park in your driveway but choose the front yard because there are 6 of you all with your own cars and leave crap everywhere in your yard are a huge problem... I longed for smart young coupled to move in, but that never happened.)

      The houses started looking like crap, the yards turned into junk and the property values stopped going up.

      so I got out fast, we are now in a nice community that I know will never have the same problems, I can not even have scumbags living across the street as the HOA will not allow it.

      on the other hand, the HOA tried to keep me from installing my Ham radio towers and antennas. A nice lawsuit with the feds involved solved that one nicely, the HOA still did not budge but a court order in my favor shut them up.

      solution? the young professionals need to get involved with your HOA and slowly drive out the retired bitter old men and women that have nothing else to do but screw with people.

      remember, the old farts die off, get a youngster in there as their replacement.

    13. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are teh suck.

    14. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was always ambivalent about my HOA, but now I'm glad they're there to ensure you won't be moving into my neighborhood...

    15. Re:Well... by (H)olyGeekboy · · Score: 1

      I understand that it's a great idea corrupted by misguided people.

      Wow, great insight... and you've also just stumbled onto a very accurate description of The Presidency, Congress, and Supreme Court of the USA.

      Not trolling. Honest. Only half trying to be humorous, however. It's my birthday, please don't mod me down. :)

    16. Re:Well... by d-e-w · · Score: 1

      It's not like many people have a choice. Around here, want to buy into a suburban subdivision? You've got a Homeowner's Association. And if that Association goes belly-up, you've got a special taxing district that'll come into effect and cost you more per year than the HOA dues would have.

    17. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Democracy.
      Two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

    18. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's a crap idea.

      The "right" idea is a set of nuisance laws (phrased something along the lines of "thou shalt not be a public nuisance"). There's no way for someone to get anal with that, and courts are going to laugh in the face of anyone who claims that having your grass half an inch longer than the "approved" height is a nuisance. A reasonable court would agree, however, that a completely overgrown front yard with rusting car parts was a nuisance. A back yard with a 6 foot fence is fair game for anything that isn't a public health hazard, though.

    19. Re:Well... by ddimas · · Score: 1

      So basicly you like controlling other peoples property, you just don't like them controlling yours.

      What a nice person you are.

    20. Re:Well... by stanmann · · Score: 1

      And liberty is the sheep with a gun.

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    21. Re:Well... by bynary · · Score: 1

      My neighbor did just that. Some guy with WAY too much free time on his hands called and said the HOA had gotten complaints about his cats not being on a leash. Now, who in their right mind puts a cat on a damn leash. So, when the guy called, my neighbor started swearing at him telling him to mind his own f**king business and to get a life. No fines ever got to his mailbox and he never received another phone call on the matter. Also, the neighborhood can collectively fire their HOA and hire or form a new one (that may depend on local laws).

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  4. Noooooo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Say it ain't so!

    1. Re:Noooooo by oscrmyer · · Score: 0

      New York City?!?! Get a Rope!

  5. Oh no... by Xshare · · Score: 3, Funny

    May he incur the wrath of thousands of angry slashdotters! He's in for a whooping!

    1. Re:Oh no... by Compholio · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I work in Lafayette, does anyone know his address?

  6. No fooling by eigerface · · Score: 3, Informative

    I discovered the same thing at 12 noon Denver time when a night time shot of the house was listed as "live".

  7. Allright, you know the drill by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Funny

    You grab the pitchforks, I grab the torches.

    And by pitchorks and torches I meant: Let's find this guy's adress and BURY HIM IN SPAM!

    'tis the season of giving, after all ;-)

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    1. Re:Allright, you know the drill by xmas2003 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Allright guys, be pissed at me, but whatever you do, don't sick the spammers on me! ;-)

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    2. Re:Allright, you know the drill by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Seriously guys, relax. Though this trick might have gone over better in early April, its not worth getting worked up over.

      That being said... Alek, you suck. :)

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    3. Re:Allright, you know the drill by eclectro · · Score: 1

      You grab the pitchforks, I grab the torches.

      I say we get some bricks and see for ourselves if the webcams are fake or not.

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    4. Re:Allright, you know the drill by StalinJoe · · Score: 1

      This certainly sheds some light on the lack of neutrality with your Hulk voting thinggy.

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    5. Re:Allright, you know the drill by Kalak · · Score: 1

      If he survived Slashdotting, then he's survived a bigger mob than can carry torches without setting the whole neighborhood on fire before they get to his house. Let him be happy with his bandwith bill.

      I know guys that like to set up Christmas lights on an outrageous scale keep my kids from demanding that I do the same to our house. We just drive by and look at all their lights instead. Thanks for saving me frostbite!

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    6. Re:Allright, you know the drill by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That being said... Alek, you suck. :)

      I don't see it being nearly as bad as the millions of parents who lie to their children about Santa Claus. We teach our children not to lie in other circumstances, so why is it perfectly okay for parents to lie about Santa and the Easter Bunny? Lying during very significant events in the Christian tradition, no less!

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    7. Re:Allright, you know the drill by neitzsche · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Alek,

      You went to great pain and expense to slander the internet in the eyes of the computer-phobic media. Congratulations. I hope you someday grow a conscience, you filthy pigfucker.

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    8. Re:Allright, you know the drill by BlueWonder · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That being said... Alek, you suck. :)

      Why? Is it so hard to admit you've been tricked?

      I for one find it admirable that he managed to trick many people (including myself) and the media. In fact, this is a better hack than it would have been if it had been real.

      It's also a valuable lession: be sceptical about everything you see, especially on the internet.

    9. Re:Allright, you know the drill by orbit0r · · Score: 1

      What???

      No Santa Claus? No Easter Bunny? Say it ain't so. I think your the liar!

    10. Re:Allright, you know the drill by pgpckt · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      In all seriousness, I hope someone sues you.

      Yes, I suppose I am a bad sport. But, I didn't ask to play. You tricked me. And the news media. I am sure they have some sort of claim based on the value of the page that was taken up from your fake story. I wonder how much the column inches you consumed would have been worth in ad revenue or in the printing of valid news.

      Again, hope you get sued. Merry christmas.

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    11. Re:Allright, you know the drill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see it being nearly as bad as the millions of parents who lie to their children about Santa Claus. We teach our children not to lie in other circumstances, so why is it perfectly okay for parents to lie about Santa and the Easter Bunny? Lying during very significant events in the Christian tradition, no less!

      Lying about very significant events is the Christian tradition.

    12. Re:Allright, you know the drill by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 1

      Lying about very significant events is the Christian tradition.

      Only for fundamentalists. Once people realize the Bible wasn't translated into English by the hand of God but by kings and Church officials with an agenda, it makes a ton more sense.

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  8. Big Deal by Bob+McCown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So the guy said he did something on the web, and turned out he didnt. Isnt this the way most of the dot-com bubble companies operated?

    1. Re:Big Deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not quite sure what exactly happened, but lets give him $10m anyway!

  9. Too funny! by DoraLives · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The whole christmas lights thing is out of hand anyway. WAY out of hand. Maybe this will serve to put a damper on some of the more retarded exploits?

    NAH!

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  10. LOL by Neil+Blender · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With wireless and what not, how fucking hard would this be to fact check?

    1. Re:LOL by cmacb · · Score: 1

      With wireless and what not, how fucking hard would this be to fact check?

      As far as I can tell that activity no longer takes place on planet Earth. Especially by anyone paid to do so. The rest of us don't have time.

    2. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The question is more "Who the fuck cares enough to waste time fact checking this?"

    3. Re:LOL by geekoid · · Score: 1

      how do you fact check this? tlak to the guy who did it?

      good prank tho'

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    4. Re:LOL by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, he lives about a mile from me, so I did consider driving by to play with it "live" before Christmas. Turns out, his house is in a gated community.

    5. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Turns out, his house is in a gated community.

      Ugh, that should have told you that he was an untrustworthy scoundrel right there.

    6. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well.. there you go

    7. Re:LOL by bedessen · · Score: 1
      From his site:
      Probably my closest call came when the Slashdot did a story about the Halloween/2004 display ... and someone local decided to drive out and see the "wildly flashing lights" - read more about it here - but I live in a gated community. But it is a dinky gate (heck, even the pizza delivery guys can get through it) and if this person had walked just a 100' past the gate, he would have seen my house ... nice lights ... but not changing one iota - saved by the gate!

  11. Heh... by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm more amused than anything else. It wouldn't make sense to be indignant over an April Fools-style joke.

    1. Re:Heh... by Lacrymator · · Score: 1

      I agree, It was amusing. I never thought twice about it. It wasn't that bad. Kinda like finding out mom or dad were the santa bunny fairy. All over again. Bummer. Hah, got us. Move on.

    2. Re:Heh... by phreakmonkey · · Score: 1
      Hear hear!

      Althouugh after I reminded a few of my co-workers to set their clocks back an hour last April 1st they got a bit indignant. Geez, where's their sense of humor?

  12. Hoax or not.... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You really HAVE to give it anyone that can pull this off, especially to /.ers.

    Bravo, bravo...
    clap, clap, clap, clap

    1. Re:Hoax or not.... by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Score one for old media. Maybe we should keep them around after all.

      TW

    2. Re:Hoax or not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, good for them. They could have been following up the truth for everytime the Administration flat out lies; they could be asking the hard questions about claims that corporations make all the time; they could be trying to bring us news of things that will inform their viewers in an unbiased way about international events.

      Instead they find out that the Christmas light thing is a hoax.

      They're certainly earning their keep there.

    3. Re:Hoax or not.... by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny
      Score one for old media. Maybe we should keep them around after all.

      And yet, most of us are reading this via the "new" media. For all I know,

      1. The site doesn't even exist (I've never browsed it),
      2. The site does exist and has web-controllable lights (and the apparent hoax is itself a hoax, perhaps no channel 7 either),
      3. The site does exist and doesn't have web-controllable lights,
      4. Slashdot is just a bunch of AI programs which mod each other up.
    4. Re:Hoax or not.... by ka9qpn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I love a good con, especially because I don't consider myself clever enough to pull one off. It's only gravy if it's all for fun and nobody gets hurt or their pocket picked.

      Nice job!

    5. Re:Hoax or not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ERR 301 Insufficient mod points, unable to complete "mod each other up" task

    6. Re:Hoax or not.... by arose · · Score: 1
      Slashdot is just a bunch of AI programs which mod each other up.
      Self learning, implented in self repairing wetware.
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    7. Re:Hoax or not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Score one what? If you had bothered to read the WSG article or Alek's hoax page you would have found that if anything, traditional media channels gave validity to his claims... it was Alek who came clean. The hoax was not discovered.

    8. Re:Hoax or not.... by Alsee · · Score: 0

      5. You're actually a sleeping butterfly dreaming that you are a person.
      6. You're just a brain in a jar with your vision and other senses being fed computer generated data by wire.
      7. God created the entire universe (complete with a full set of false memories for you) a nanosecond ago, and is going to destroy the entire universe one nanosecond from now.
      8. (And least likely) Natalie Portman is about to walk through your door and have hot sweaty sex with you.

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    9. Re:Hoax or not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give what? A big "fuck you" is the only thing I'd give to that lying asshead.

    10. Re:Hoax or not.... by MarcQuadra · · Score: 4, Funny

      How do you feel about Slashdot is just a bunch of AI programs which mod each other up?

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    11. Re:Hoax or not.... by phreakmonkey · · Score: 1
      For all I know,
      {snip}
      Slashdot is just a bunch of AI programs which mod each other up.

      Whoa... for some reason that disturbs me. Like I've been spending all this time in some kind of psychological observation honeypot or something.

      Y'all are real, right? Tell me your are!!!

      {pokes screen with finger}

      Helloooo????

    12. Re:Hoax or not.... by aardwolf204 · · Score: 1

      your not the only one whos freaked out. im having the same thoughts as you. or maybe you isnt you and your only saying what im thinking to make me think your not a bot and, oh lord, i have no idea now, but if you are bots thats sad because now i go back to being the only one who unserstands, then again thats cool and i want to meet your programmer... ok i just realized that if I were in the matrix i would be totally confused.

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  13. Re:over 20,000 people died this weekend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    9/11 a natural disaster? And even so, 3000 dead americans worse than 20000 dead asians? It's you who need to get your priorities straight.

  14. Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho by melted · · Score: 5, Funny

    So I think Google should pay him with Monopoly money or something.

    1. Re:Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho by OverlordQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just admit you got tricked at move on.

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    2. Re:Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much does Google pay per visit? Is there a way we could figure out how much money he made using his detailed stats?

    3. Re:Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho by CanSpice · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google doesn't pay per view, Google pays per click. If you can make some kind of guess as to his clickthrough rate then you can guess at how much money he made.

      But that payment rate also depends on the kind of ad clicked on. Sometimes I get 3 cents a click, sometimes I get 75 cents a click. Over the past month and a half I've averaged just under 17.5 cents per click.

    4. Re:Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho by jdludlow · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho

      So? Do advertisers care that the content of a page is factual? They want people to see their ads and buy things. Who cares what's on the page as long as millions of people view it. (Yes, I know that the ads are targtted based on the content of the page. Being fake or not doesn't change that target market though.)

    5. Re:Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      >So? Do advertisers care that the content of a page is factual?

      Exactly. Many religious sites have ads. Religion is hardly factual. Toss in political sites and all the opinion dress up as news and you would be hard press to find any facts on the web.

    6. Re:Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho by Mr.Radar · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with US Dollars? They're just as worthless these days.

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    7. Re:Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho by melted · · Score: 1

      No, I didn't get tricked. I went to that page, saw a bunch of Google ads and it immediately became clear to me why this page was posted on slashdot.

    8. Re:Google ads on his page weren't a hoax tho by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

      google ads are pay per click not per impression, so unless all of the slashbots click on those ads, he didn't make much.

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  15. Hoaxy by mboverload · · Score: 1

    Although it hurts to be fooled, you have to commend him for pulling it off.

  16. Sweet, Nice Hack by JonahDark1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think this guy deserves mad props for pulling this off.

    1. Re:Sweet, Nice Hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "mad props"? Listen, you grade-schooler, this lying hoax-pulling asshead can go fuck himself.

    2. Re:Sweet, Nice Hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      aww... someone is mad that they got tricked, even though it probably brought a little happiness to some and hurt no one... and was better for the environment and the neighbors than if it had been real. Just what is real anyways?

  17. CHRISTMAS FOOLS by INeededALogin · · Score: 0

    errr... he must be confused:-/

  18. get the president on this by pyrrho · · Score: 1

    ASAP! you can't let this sort of thing go unchallenged.

    Go in there, liberate this fellows house... make sure he's not on steroid while we're there!

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  19. I am not amused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Let's just say that I AM NOT AMUSED.

    One would think that a tech/science-oriented site such as Slashdot would do a little bit of backround research before publishing articles that will eventually turn out to be hoaxes.

    I am very, very disappointed at the current level of professionalism shown by the Slashdot crew. I mailed the article to several friends of mine and now, thanks to Slashdot, MY integrity is in question.

    1. Re:I am not amused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mailed the article to several friends of mine and now, thanks to Slashdot, MY integrity is in question.

      Your integrity was already in question after your 500th GNAA post, Mr. Anonymous Coward!

    2. Re:I am not amused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      let's just say I AM NOT AMUSED that you don't have life about how to handle a miniscule life event.

    3. Re: I am not amused by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny


      > One would think that a tech/science-oriented site such as Slashdot would do a little bit of backround research before publishing articles that will eventually turn out to be hoaxes.

      I think they're going to hire Dan Rather, now that he's free.

      > I mailed the article to several friends of mine and now, thanks to Slashdot, MY integrity is in question.

      You're not supposed to let your friends know you read Slashdot.

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    4. Re:I am not amused by r_glen · · Score: 1

      Simple: just don't email this article to them

    5. Re:I am not amused by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 1

      First, let me say if you base anything important on what you see here on Slashdot, you're biggest problem is not what your friends think of you.

      Second, let me say that information here is not verified or corroborated in any way, in fact if the editors even clicked on the links, your're lucky.

      Third, this was a pretty good professional hoax. The multiple views had superimposed clocks, random cars and air traffic, star patterns and garage doors in various states to make the fact that there were only 12 repeating views harder to notice. The hoax was good enough to fool every major news agency in the US that reported on it, so why not the self-admittedly unauthoritative Slashdot?

      Fourth, why would this in any way reflect negatively on you? Because you got taken in like everyone else? Lighten up, Francis.

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    6. Re:I am not amused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am quite amused. What this guy actually did is FAR geekier than what he had claimed he did. It's even more amusing that you consider /. a "serious news source" rather than a "source for bleeding edge cool stuff that may or may not ever come to any pratical use, but is neat that somebody is doing". Remember this is the same place that ran the story about the guy in Alaska building the giant robot, and we're the same people who went "oooh, neat!!!!" when we saw it.

    7. Re:I am not amused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He did say that he works for the goverment ... so wouldn't that make you exempt.

    8. Re:I am not amused by ayjay29 · · Score: 1

      >>One would think that a tech/science-oriented site such as Slashdot would do a little bit of backround research before publishing articles that will eventually turn out to be hoaxes.

      Well at least they only published it once. I think thats pretty good going by slashdot standards.

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    9. Re:I am not amused by ddimas · · Score: 1

      You bet your integrety on Slashdot? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!

    10. Re:I am not amused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am very, very disappointed at the current level of professionalism shown by the Slashdot crew. I mailed the article to several friends of mine and now, thanks to Slashdot, MY integrity is in question.

      Yes. Obviously Slashdot's editors should have driven to his house, broken into the gated community, and attempted to issue commands from across the street to see if it worked exactly as on the Web site. It wasn't enough that it was a realistic and professional hoax reported on and filmed by other news sources.

      On a less sarcastic note, I always follow the rule of "Don't mail anything to a friend unless you've verified it using two sources." If you can't be bothered to do research, it isn't the fault of Slashdot's editors. (And if you can, you won't worry about your integrity, because you made a good faith effort. You'll send a message out saying, "Hey! That was a hoax! Man, he sure fooled a lot of people. I thought it was real since it was on slashdot and blah-blah.")

      Besides, your integrity is fine. It's your gullibility that this calls into question. Unless you somehow knew this was a hoax and sent it out anyways?

  20. Newsflash: Santa ain't happy. by radd0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "I apologize to those people who may be angry with me, but hopefully most will see the humor in the whole situation ... and realize that my attempt to bring joy and a smile to people's faces was successful"

    Personally I wasn't too impressed with the site to begin with, hoax or not. It didn't hold a candle to the likes of the Chaos Computer Club's Blinkenlights project.

  21. good point by pyrrho · · Score: 4, Funny

    also... there are protons decaying AS WE SPEAK!!!!

    what of the protons!?

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  22. sounds like some bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is the bullshit of the bullshit

  23. Not really by jerometremblay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's already hard to find someone who RTFA, imagine someone checking REALITY.

    1. Re:Not really by uradu · · Score: 1

      Right, I couldn't decide what was sadder: the original story, or the WSJ reporter checking up on it. Just wait till they discover the subservient chicken, they'll close Wall Street for a week.

    2. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, a hot webcam chick! But the subservient bartender is hotter, and serves beer!

  24. I did this... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... but on a much smaller scale. The idea was that it was a webcam in my kitchen, which you could click on to turn the lights on and off. One guy I know was fooled by it for a week. No-one had the heart to tell him...

  25. Now I am beginning to wonder... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2, Funny
    How much other stuff on the Internet is fake?

    Devistating, simply devistating.

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    1. Re:Now I am beginning to wonder... by confusion · · Score: 1
      Please please please don't tell me The Onion is fake!!!!

      Jerry
      http://www.syslog.org/

    2. Re:Now I am beginning to wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no Internet, Neo.

    3. Re:Now I am beginning to wonder... by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      no, that one it real. . .
      I promise.
      -nB

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    4. Re:Now I am beginning to wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing "devistating" is simply your lack of ability in spelling devastating.

    5. Re:Now I am beginning to wonder... by kisielk · · Score: 1
      How much other stuff on the Internet is fake?


      Probably most of the breasts on the models on those sites...
  26. Oh oh, Billy! by paulius_g · · Score: 0

    I always knew that something was with this guy as there never was a webcam during the day. I first thought that it's a manner to save bandwidth, but it all leads to the shocking truth. I wan't really a fan of that site. It's just funny how such a man (yeah, I read most of his whole website!) could lie to so many people.

  27. not quite by pyrrho · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it's not in question any more.

    now they know!

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  28. Someone didn't read the whole article! (Not Hoax!) by ugmoe · · Score: 5, Funny
    Someone obviously didn't read the whole article before posting. (Not a rare occurrance at slashdot)

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/holidays/4027215/d etail.html

    "I got a chuckle out of putting a clock up in the window and having the hands of the clock display the right time (it actually started out 3 minutes slow, but then gained a minute a day, until it was 4 minutes fast, and then reset itself) -- again, all computer trickery!" Komarnitsky said on his Web site Monday.

    The Lafayette man said he accomplished the trickery by taking 12 "base" photographs of the house with lights on and off and then constructed a Web page that appeared to show lights going on and off when the Web visitor clicked, but after performing web server stress testing, he replaced the test images with real-time camera generated images for the holiday season.

    Not everything on the internet is a forgery.

  29. No harm, no foul? by powdered+toast+dude · · Score: 2, Insightful

    IANAL(tm), but I would imagine that with no commerce involved, no parties have any actual damages, and therefore no cause against him. Except maybe chopper 7, I guess, for the cost of the ride they were duped out of. But IMHO going after him would be bad form on anyone's part. Let's chalk it up to a good practical joke at our collective expense, figuratively speaking. He got us but good, and that's that.

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    1. Re:No harm, no foul? by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

      So that's the missing step..

      1. Put ads on your site.
      2. Trick millions of folks into visiting.
      3. Profit.

    2. Re:No harm, no foul? by Orgazmus · · Score: 1

      You sir, are a wise man

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    3. Re:No harm, no foul? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who would use a lame ass acronym like IANAL is no wise man.

  30. Alek Comments by xmas2003 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hey /.'ers ... it was all fun ... I'm SLAMMED ... will say more later ... but be SURE to read MY story of the events and also what Wall Street Journal guy wrote ... and then if you want, go to that Channel-7 site and cast your vote if I was naughty or nice!

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    1. Re:Alek Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Asshole.

    2. Re:Alek Comments by mrwonton · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is indeed worth reading his version of the story, if not to pass judgment, then merely to see how he pulled it off. Its really quite interesting how much time he put into making the hoax believeable. With no less work, he probably could have made it actually work like it was supposed to...

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    3. Re:Alek Comments by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, I get it. You were karma whoring :)

      Alek is the best karma whore on ./, bar none!

    4. Re:Alek Comments by agent+dero · · Score: 1

      If you're going to do a hoax, do it well, do it geeky, and they will still love you. ;)

      Nice work Alek, I especially liked the part where you proved to the WSJ guy that it really was a hoax :P

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    5. Re:Alek Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean you got SLAMMED? Never mind. We don't want to hear about your homosexual lifestyle.

    6. Re:Alek Comments by Technician · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The epilogue is great. The question arises about how the site being fake wasn't a hoax on the Wall Street Journal.

      It's a hoot.

      One "problem" when I talked to the Wall Street Journal is that Charles Forelle was concerned I was pulling a "double-dupe" - i.e. I claim to the world that there was a webcam, but to them, I said it was fake ... but maybe it really was real, so the WSJ gets eggs on their face - I hadn't thought of that, but WOW, that would be quite the hoax. Good skepticism - we need more of that in the media!
      So then the issue was how can I PROVE to Charles that it really is fake since he is on the East Coast. I suggested he have a trusted person come by the house some night, and (while Charles was on the Internet watching the lights flash on and off), his friend could park in my driveway - not only would the car not be visible on the web, but the lights would not be changing. Charles said he would try "something" but would not tell me (again, good for him!) ... and another thing we did is I enabled the webcam dedicated to his IP address ... during the day! Needless to say, my house looked pretty dark on his computer screen despite it being 1:00 in the afternoon here. And then I did some stupid geek tricks like make tonsa cars drive by, lotsa people, have the garage door go crazy up/down, and have the entire United Airlines fleet show up in the sky over my house. While he got a good laugh out of all of it, I'm sure he independantly did some confirmation - yet another reason why I've been a WSJ subscriber for 20+ years - these guys do good news!


      I hope he puts some of the airplane overload photos on his site. I would also think it would be fun to leave the "webcam" up 24/7.

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    7. Re:Alek Comments by Pavan_Gupta · · Score: 1

      Personally, I was duped. You had a pretty genius prank, and it's really not very much different than what lukett and the fark crowed pulled on the rest of the world with their modified (which you can search for via fark.com and google of course) picture of what a computer was supposed to look like in the future.

      Alek, those people that are pissed here are just pissed because they couldn't pull something off like what you did -- and to make it even better, you had an equally genius (at least on the technical merit side) dupe setup, and you posted some cool facts on the slashdot effect.

      Cheers lad. I'm impressed. My ego, it was worthless to begin with =)

    8. Re:Alek Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doing it as supposed, would just be marginally cool, web controled stuff has been around since the eve of www. This was a nice hack, possibly the best in its genre.

    9. Re:Alek Comments by xmas2003 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Ahhhh ... someone who actually read down to the bottom of the overly lengthy page ... but yea, this really DID become an issue as stated and glad you enjoyed the writeup on it.

      And you better believe I turned on the "Airplane Invasion" option (along with a few other "tricks") and while I turned it off for the night, expect it back on in the morning.

      BTW, I thought the /. crowd would have more of a sense of humor - the FARK guys are hilareous! ;-)

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    10. Re:Alek Comments by Technician · · Score: 1

      Wow! I never expected a note from the page owner.. You are the page owner aren't you? ;-)
      I work nights, so I'll have to check out the page in the morning and try for a screen capture of the famous airplane invasion shot. Thanks for the heads up.

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  31. Revenge by nizo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now the news guys need to get together and start calling him and saying how pissed they are that they lost their jobs for not checking the facts, and right after xmas no less. When he is finally reduced to a gibbering crying mess they can tell him, "Just kidding". I bet he would get a big laugh out of that lemme tell ya.

  32. Hmmm... by Maqueo · · Score: 1

    I think it would've been ok if this was just a generic site for the general public (oh! pretty lights!), but posting to a thread with all kinds of "technical" details (check my 1337 skillz) is just plain lying. Not to mention 2003.

    So much for the xmas spirit of giving (nice excuse).

  33. I bet the AdWords wasn't a hoax by Brandon+One · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So for three years running (and this Halloween?) this guy had millions of hits onto his site.
    All the while he was raking in the dough from his Google AdWords banners.
    I wonder how much money he has made.

    1. Re:I bet the AdWords wasn't a hoax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder how much money he has made.

      He talks about this in his FAQ. So if you can trust him anymore, check out question E7.
      http://www.komar.org/xmas/faq/

    2. Re:I bet the AdWords wasn't a hoax by xmas2003 · · Score: 5, Informative
      BOY - you'd wonder if anyone reads the FAQ - good for you. First, Google Adsense hasn't been around for 3 years ... and I just added this to my hoax explanation

      Several media folks are slamming me for running Google Adsense and saying I cleaned up on it. That is simply not true ... but unfortunately, I can not comment on this due to Google's Program Policies ... but let me just say that the Google Adsense Revenue for the month will just about pay for my wife's 40th birthday party and I would have made a LOT more if I had taken that Radio Station's $10,000 offer. I invite the media to contact Google for the actual numbers and they have my permission to release 'em.

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    3. Re:I bet the AdWords wasn't a hoax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you aren't being slammed for "cleaning up" on Adsense, but for being an attention-whoring turd-burglar?

    4. Re:I bet the AdWords wasn't a hoax by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      He has said that the newspapers are invited to ask Google, and that he has sent an email to Google telling them about the whole thing, with permission to release the numbers if asked. Doesn't sound like he's got anything to blush about.

    5. Re:I bet the AdWords wasn't a hoax by grommit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Alex, don't worry about the haters out there. They're just miffed that they couldn't pull off this very nice mix of social engineering and image hacking like you did.

      I think what you did was great and I actually enjoyed it more now that I found out that it was a hoax.

      Congrats and I hope you continue on to bigger and better tricks in the future.

    6. Re:I bet the AdWords wasn't a hoax by Alsee · · Score: 0

      being an attention-whoring turd-burglar

      I hate people who burgle turds! They're the worst!

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    7. Re:I bet the AdWords wasn't a hoax by jrockway · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I read the linked Adsense policy, and there was nothing there stating that you couldn't tell us what you made. Cough it up.

      Oh, I know. If he tells us he'll have to pay taxes to the IRS. Didn't think about that, didya.

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    8. Re:I bet the AdWords wasn't a hoax by gfreeman · · Score: 1

      Cough it up.

      Did you learn to be this rude, or does it come naturally?

      If you can't find out the data elsewhere, and Google won't tell you, and his ISP is not forthcoming, then I guess he has a right not to "cough it up". Give the guy a break - he's already said more than I would have.

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  34. Not cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was impressed with the notion of web-controlled christmas lights. But now it turns out that good intentions or no, the guy's just a fraud. That's not cool.

  35. heh by Mako.h · · Score: 0

    hahah ahahaha hahahah ahahaha hahaha ahahhha

  36. Straight from the gift horse's mouth: by Takyn-U-RUN · · Score: 2, Informative

    Read what Alex himself has to say about the hoax. Pretty interesting to hear it from the man himself instead a news agency ticked off at him for fooling them.

    1. Re:Straight from the gift horse's mouth: by Takyn-U-RUN · · Score: 1

      Alek, of course. My apologies.

  37. Three words. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    Hook. Line. Sinker.

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    1. Re:Three words. by D0+J00+W4n7+K4r473 · · Score: 0

      More like: Fish. Barrel. Shotgun.

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  38. NO - please god no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NO - THAT CAN'T be the case.
    If it is on the internet IT MUST BE TRUE... it must - ARGH!

    now i'll have to turn to something I know to be true [insert relegious scripture here].

    oh, btw, did you know that before 1954, the entire world was in black and white?

  39. Re:Someone didn't read the whole article! (Not Hoa by Delta+Vel · · Score: 1

    Wha?

    It doesn't say that, at least not now.

    The Lafayette man said he accomplished the trickery by taking 12 "base" photographs of the house with lights on and off and then constructed a Web page that appeared to show lights going on and off when the Web visitor clicked.

    "I got a chuckle out of putting a clock up in the window and having the hands of the clock display the right time (it actually started out 3 minutes slow, but then gained a minute a day, until it was 4 minutes fast, and then reset itself) -- again, all computer trickery!" Komarnitsky said on his Web site Monday.

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  40. I can't believe this by woah · · Score: 1
    I feel cheated and used.

    For the love of god, how could he do this to us?!!

  41. I'm surprised nobody noticed by enosys · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm surprised nobody noticed. Camera images generally contain some noise. The noise changes even when nothing else changes. It can be especially pronounced in the dark.

    Plus what about weather conditions? Plenty of local people must have seen the site. What about when it was raining or snowing and the webcam wasn't showing that?

    1. Re:I'm surprised nobody noticed by coyote-san · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is Denver. I live maybe 5 miles away from this guy but I'm sure we occasionally have markedly different weather. (E.g., merely overcast vs. several inches of snow on the ground and more falling.)

      I once left a dark and gloomy Boulder (just NW of Denver) and met somebody in south Denver, about 40 miles away. The sky was mostly clear, just some clouds over the mountains. She was shocked when I commented on the weather.

      Did the weather just clear? Nope, it was still dark and gloomy when I returned 3 hours after I left. Davidson Mesa isn't that high, but it was enough to produce wildly different weather that day.

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  42. kinda like kids & coin-op games by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's like when little kids in the 3-6yo range walk up to a video game that's in attract mode and start playing with the joystick - a lot of times they'll think they're actually playing the game when it's just the demo running.

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  43. Dumbing us down by TotalFusionOne · · Score: 1

    I love how the Denver story tells us that the lights were controlled by a "Well known computer device controller." For one thing, any english high school student will laugh at you if you try to use that sentence in a speech. For another, does the media actually think we are so dumb we can't handle the name of the "Computer device controller?" I, for one, am laughing my christmas ham off right now. I'll admit I didn't think about it before.. But 1.2 million web site viewers a month... each one individually controlling something... Wouldn't be possible. ... Err... Right? TO THE GEEK CAVE!

    1. Re:Dumbing us down by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Well, let's see .. (31 days per month) x (24 hours per day) x (60 minutes per hour) x (60 seconds per minute) = 2,678,400 seconds per month. So, 2,678,400 seconds / 1,200,000 vistors = 2.232 seconds per visitor to control the lights.

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    2. Re:Dumbing us down by op00to · · Score: 1

      Did it ever occur to you that the publisher of the story didn't feel like giving free advertisement (or implicitly endorsing...) to the X10 folks?

    3. Re:Dumbing us down by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 1

      Don't forget, he only had it 'running' for 4 hours per day. (0.372 seconds per visitor.)

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    4. Re:Dumbing us down by jrockway · · Score: 0

      I don't get that. If that's what he used, that's what he used. Saying otherwise because X10 didn't pay the reporter is lying. Get some journalistic integrity... (oh fuck that, it's all about money from advertisers...)

      I am very tired of seeing everything on TV blurred out. If you don't want it shown on TV, then don't use it.

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  44. One down, one to go by gwoodrow · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Now that we've uncovered the lights hoax, maybe we can do something about that whole "virgin birth" hoax, too. They both happened around the same time, after all. Coincidence? flame on! (couldn't resist)

    1. Re:One down, one to go by ChipMonk · · Score: 1

      Except that this guy admits it was a hoax, when he was called on it.

      The puppet government in place in AD ~30 took steps to make sure the Apostles wouldn't perpetrate a hoax, including the (standard) death penalty for soldiers who abandon their guard posts. Whole lotta good it did, huh?

      (Oh, and if you were hoping for a flame, sorry to disappoint.)

    2. Re:One down, one to go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting AC since this is most definitely off-topic and will be moderated into the ground.
      When the only people reporting any such death penalties occuring are the hoaxters themselves, that's hardly a convincing rebuttal.
      Why I am getting into a subject that has been done to death in countless internet chats on biblical authentacity, I don't know...

  45. Re:Someone didn't read the whole article! (Not Hoa by akgunkel · · Score: 1

    Strangely enough, I can't find the bolded part of your "quote" anywhere... maybe your post should be modded funny?

  46. Marketing/Management Material by MooseByte · · Score: 5, Funny


    Hmmm.

    - Faked a demo of a cool concept.

    - Lacked the geek talent and dedication required to pull it off.

    - Reaped the benefits (web hits and publicity) by duping the users.

    Yep, clearly the guy is made for marketing/management.

    1. Re:Marketing/Management Material by eddy+the+lip · · Score: 4, Insightful
      - Lacked the geek talent and dedication required to pull it off.

      Except that he didn't lack it - go read his web page. It explains how he pulled it off, generating the faked images on the fly from a few pre-shot photos and perl.

      Personally, I think it's a cool hack. Glad someone out there is still doing this stuff...

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    2. Re:Marketing/Management Material by John3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree....qualifies as a hack in my book. Required some techical skill, was harmless, and quite funny.

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    3. Re:Marketing/Management Material by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Interesting

      qualifies as a hack in my book

      In my book, a hack is something you do to tech. Fooling people is a con.

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    4. Re:Marketing/Management Material by adeydas · · Score: 1

      another spam don on the horizon, no doubt...

    5. Re:Marketing/Management Material by Medieval · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess you're unfamiliar with a small, mostly unheard-of school called MIT?

    6. Re:Marketing/Management Material by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess you're unfamiliar with a small, mostly unheard-of school called MIT?

      So you're telling me that they only pretend to pull off these pranks?

      --

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    7. Re:Marketing/Management Material by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Except that he didn't lack it - go read his web page

      He lacked the talent to pull of the cool concept - which would be to control the lights via the internet. Everybody is clear he faked it.

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    8. Re:Marketing/Management Material by Technician · · Score: 2, Informative

      I questioned the website when there was no explination of how the video got cross the street.
      Most webcams don't do Christmas light very well. I know, I've tried. Most webcams don't do dark very well (high video noise). His shots were low noise and long exposure (evidance by streak of car headlight and tail lights). From the beginning the webcam photos were questionable to me. They were just too good for the conditions. They were not NTSC over a wireless link. An X10 cam does not do long exposures in low light.

      Generaly only a Digital cam can produce the photos as displayed by the site, not a webcam.

      --
      The truth shall set you free!
    9. Re:Marketing/Management Material by Mr_Whoopass · · Score: 1

      "So you're telling me that they only pretend to pull off these pranks?"

      So you are telling us that he only pretended to pull off this prank?

      Get over it everyone. It was a clever stunt and if the media was mislead, too bad
      for them. He didn't force them to whip themselves into a frenzy over this. I can't
      understand why so many people feel so personally offended at this? I strongly
      suggest to those who feel personally slighted to do whatever is is you do to calm
      yourselves down. Take time to turn off your PC, perhaps a glass of warm milk?

      Personally, I admire the cleverness of something that suckered in millions of
      people, yet was so simple!

      Ahh wait, I think that might have hit the nail on the head there, SUCKERED in so
      many people. Well, I guess I can understand your anger then. I suppose nobody
      likes being made the fool. ;)

    10. Re:Marketing/Management Material by iphayd · · Score: 1

      Nah, the hack would be making it so I can turn all my neighbors' christmas lights on and off online.

      Especially the one with the 24/7 outdoor christmas music device.

    11. Re:Marketing/Management Material by Scrameustache · · Score: 1


      Personally, I admire the cleverness of something that suckered in millions of
      people, yet was so simple!

      Ahh wait, I think that might have hit the nail on the head there, SUCKERED in so
      many people. Well, I guess I can understand your anger then. I suppose nobody
      likes being made the fool. ;)


      Took you long enough.
      I never gave a damn about his lights, but on principle, I want everyone who enjoys frauds of any kind to be crushed.

      If he does it for fun, he'll do it for profit (and as stated above, he had ads on his site, so this was a profitable con). The "harmless fun" attitude only encourages them, and they'll move on to bigger and better crimes. You like it? I hope you love it when your identity gets stolen, or you pay for car repairs that never happened, etc.

      I do not admire dishonesty.

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      You can't take the sky from me...

  47. Would you like a tissue? by CarnivoreMan · · Score: 5, Informative
    did you read the FAQ?
    " How do you verify the accuracy of Slashdot stories? We don't. You do. :) If something seems outrageous, we might look for some corroboration, but as a rule, we regard this as the responsibility of the submitter and the audience. This is why it's important to read comments. You might find something that refutes, or supports, the story in the main."
    1. Re:Would you like a tissue? by hypermike · · Score: 1

      Hes pushing the FAQ, must be an OpenBSD user...

      ha. just kiddin

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  48. It's not like it's that hard or anything... by Omega · · Score: 1

    Just get an X-10 firecracker set, download the BottleRocket X-10 linux controlling software, and write a cgi to run on your webserver that allows users to turn the lights on/off. Going through the whole hoax thing sounds like MORE work..

    1. Re:It's not like it's that hard or anything... by anomaly · · Score: 1

      I do exactly that - only I don't publish the cgi for enabling and disabling my lights, and I don't have a webcam.

      I use a cron job.

      It's easier to use X10 through cron than it is to bend over and unplug the cable twice a day. :)

      Kudos to Alek for his hard work, and ingenuity.

      --
      But Herr Heisenberg, how does the electron know when I'm looking?
    2. Re:It's not like it's that hard or anything... by the+angry+liberal · · Score: 1

      Why are you guys touting X10 products? Do the Internet a favor and quit supporting sites which do such nasty popup and spam based advertising.

      Anyway, I must agree it would have been much easier to actually do the project than to go to all the trouble of lying. Just make sure to never do business with him.

    3. Re:It's not like it's that hard or anything... by SpacePunk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Considering how much coverage this thing had, the numbers of visitors would have been huge. It's ridiculous to think that a display like that would be stable with the large number of visitors/hits/controllers he 'would' have had. 1500 people trying to control one webcam simultaneously is a ridiculous thought.

    4. Re:It's not like it's that hard or anything... by Myen · · Score: 1

      The X10 they're talking about is not the X10 of the popunders. One is a standard for controlling stuff via computers, the other is a nasty site. They happen to share the name. (Or was it the second deliberately naming itself after the first? I can't remember...)

    5. Re:It's not like it's that hard or anything... by ScrappyLaptop · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Uh, actually they ARE the same. X10 Ltd. created the standard and licensed it to the likes of Radio Shack, RCA, et all. Then in 1997, they started marketing devices that used the standard they created via x10.com.

      http://www.x10.com/pressroom/pressroom_history.htm

      and in greater depth:

      http://www.hometoys.com/htinews/oct04/articles/rye /history.htm

    6. Re:It's not like it's that hard or anything... by Feelvoid · · Score: 1

      > 1500 people trying to control one webcam simultaneously is a ridiculous thought.

      People are working on the principles underlying such a concept.

      Some links:

      • ShareCam, ALPHA Lab, University of California, Berkeley.
      • Info on observer.berkeley.edu and its FAQ.
      • "The co-opticon (a.k.a. the ShareCam) is a machine for democratic optics, allowing a network of participants to cooperatively control the viewpoint of a shared video camera. The co-opticon combines a networked robotic video camera with a graphical user interface that allows many internet-based viewers to share simultaneous control of the camera by specifying desired viewing frames. Algorithms compute the optimal camera frame based on all requests, and position the camera accordingly."
      • demonstrate.berkeley.edu. The installation combines the world's most advanced networked robotic camera, a visual database, and a mathematical model of socio-ocular camera control.

      -j.

      P.S. Coral cache acting weird from here. Couldn't coralize all the links.

    7. Re:It's not like it's that hard or anything... by SpacePunk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh, yeah. Try this... have 1500 people use the same yo-yo at the same time. Does it work? Is there a special principle that would make it work?

      Wanna know what simultaneous control of a camera for 1500 people would look like? Just take a webcam and mount it on top of a spring then whack the spring. 'Democratic' camera control? perhaps, but it wouldn't be true control, but that's another concept entirely.

      This item surrounded 'expectations' by the viewers. I'm sure there were many that 'expected' it to be a real item. I have no doubt there were those here on Slashdot that went to the site and thought "this is really cool" without realizing that their sole control of camera and lights was a technically laughable 'expectation' given the number of simultaneous users. The expectations arise out of the lack of most basic understanding of the technology. That's what seems to have pissed people off about the whole thing. Those that think they are 'l331' got sucked into the whole thing, which I find extremely hilarious. I saw the story and just rolled my eyes because it's immediately apparent to the technically skilled that the whole sole control concept of this kind is not physically possible. One person controlling one cam, yes. Many controlling one cam, no. Those that have protested this the most are most likely those that got sucked into it the hardest. Just look at the posts here on Slashdot. There seem to be some really upset people that this whole thing was hoaxed while others find it extremely funny. The mission, if you choose to accept it, is to pick out the ones that went to the site and 'wondered' at it.

  49. Wait, this can't be possible. by Jerk+City+Troll · · Score: 1

    Isn't everything on the Internet true? This sure is a crazy turn of the trend!

  50. How can you be mad? by Specks · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although it was a hoax. It's a clever one and very harmless. I just can't help but feel amused by this. Nice one Alex. Now I can't remember if he had any banners on the site but he could have made some good cash if he did.

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    1. Re:How can you be mad? by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Although it was a hoax. It's a clever one and very harmless.

      No, it wasn't harmless, unless you have your own definition of that word.

      Were the rigged game shows harmless?

      Were the fake national guard papers about GW Bush harmless?

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  51. He can't be trusted now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you believe anything on his web site? I live in Denver, and considered driving the ~20 miles to see the "famous" lights, but decided to skip it, after all I coudl see it "live on the web" after all.

    But I won't visit his site any more, since the internet shoudl be based on trust, after all. Would you order stuff from Amazon if you thought they were going to ship "substitute titles"?

    Do you really think the bozo put up 10 thousand more lights this year? Whaterver. His wife is probably not jewish, he probably doesn't live in a gated community, he probably is short, not tall.

    "When we give away trust, we have give away everything" - Cicero

    Actually I made that quote up, sounds like a Kam~

  52. Let's show him up by utlemming · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The BSD Daemon in me wants to code up a little project to do what his sight was supposed to do. Sure the neighbors would be annoyed. But something about really doing it and being able to prove it would be a little satisfying. Pride -- yup. Oh well. Maybe we'll see the Christmas Light project on Source Forge soon....

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    1. Re:Let's show him up by utlemming · · Score: 1

      site...sorry. I guess that's what the preview button is all about...

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    2. Re:Let's show him up by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Yeah well ... in my case it's not the pride that keeps me from doing something like that, it's the price. 17,000 bulbs ... ouch.

      --
      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
    3. Re:Let's show him up by utlemming · · Score: 1

      How do we know that was even true? I mean he _lied_ about the webcam? These days, you can pick up lights for about $1.49 at Wal-mart for 100 bulbs. So you need 170 packs, at a modest $253. Yeah, I don't have the dough either, but it still isn't that bad...especially if you run an extension cord from your neighbors house...

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  53. Eh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    "While the Internet is not as "nice" as it was a decade ago"

    Yeah, I noticed. Now people just like to use it to perpetuate hoaxes apparently. With all the effort that went into the hoax (the interviews, the website, convincing the neighbours, convincing people to contribute bandwidth (or were they in on it too?), I don't know why he just didn't put the effort into implementing the thing for real.

    Unless this hoax claim is a hoax!

  54. Google Ads? by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Alek, how much did you make from the Google Ad placement last year?

    1. Re:Google Ads? by s7uar7 · · Score: 1

      Probably just enough to cover his hosting bills I should think.

    2. Re:Google Ads? by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 1
      Alek, how much did you make from the Google Ad placement last year?

      Not nearly enough to cover the electric bill. :-)

      (The math of this calculation, I leave to someone else...)

    3. Re:Google Ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok:

      Electric cost of faked light switching: zero

      do I get an A?

  55. Re:Someone didn't read the whole article! (Not Hoa by brer_rabbit · · Score: 1
    parent post is a hoax, mod down as a troll.

    Furthermore, from the article:

    Komarnitsky said when he went up in Airtracker 7 for a live report on his Christmas lights that his wife was actually on the ground turning them on and off -- not Internet visitors. so yes, the whole thing was a hoax.

  56. this is why... by 10000000000000000000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    you should always demand a girl be present in the webcast who will answer your live questions.

    that way you can verify that she is actually there with the christmas lights...

    in fact forget the lights... and the questions.

  57. Why hoaz the simple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The larger question is why hoax something that is easy to do? X10 + Linux + Perl + WWW and blamo. Fakeing it just means the guy is an attention whore (IMHO).

  58. pulled what off? by twitter · · Score: 0
    You really HAVE to give it anyone that can pull this off, especially to /.ers.

    Give him whatever you want, I'm keeping mine.

    Did I really think this guy had blinking lights that other people could control? Sure, why not? Other people have done it without complaining so much about the "Slashdot effect". Did I ever care? No. Do I like it when people lie to me? No. What's left to give him? A raspberry.

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  59. Re:Someone didn't read the whole article! (Not Hoa by op00to · · Score: 1

    yhbt

  60. Holy crap(Not Lame Ass Reply!) by Brainboy · · Score: 1

    Not only did you get modded up +5 Informative(!) at one point. But you managed to trick someone into thinking were you for real.

    Bravo.

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    Just a guy with an opinion
  61. What he said by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

    He was definitely trying to justify it on his site by saying it cheered people up. It seems to me it went a little far for something like that. He could have "come out" earlier and passed it off as a "virtual house" without tricking people.

    1. Re:What he said by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      You make an excellent point. Could his site not be as popular being a "virtual house"? Did it have to pretend to be real? The tech would still be as good & neat.

      --

      Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.

  62. The reason no one fact checked... by f8free · · Score: 1

    This was a frivolous holiday item that everybody forgot about the day after they checked it out.

    I think that for more high-profile stories fact-checking online has proven to be quite illuminating at times. (Such as with the CBS memos and Dan Rather's on-air capitulation as to the doubts about their authenticity.

  63. What's next? by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

    Next thing you know they're going to tell us pro-wrestling is fake too.

    Seriously though, I didn't see the point of this anyway. Does it really make a difference if it was real or not?

  64. new perspective on my attempted visit by morcheeba · · Score: 4, Informative

    I tried to visit his house when he had the haloween lights up, but found it was in a gated community that was closed to visitors after 7pm. His house is a bit out of my way & I was a bit annoyed that this heavily-promoted house wasn't on public display, so I never returned. I wanted to see how often people where flipping the lights -- the webcam didn't refresh often enough to show that.

    His response to my post was interesting.. it seemed legit and appropriately paranoid about strangers knocking on his door (which I would never do!!).

    1. Re:new perspective on my attempted visit by xmas2003 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Read near the bottom my hoax page ... I talk EXACTLY about this situation - good for you to "check it out" ... you'd put 99% of the Press to shame!

      P.S. I really DO have two kids and yes, please do not come knocking on my door - you were quite cool about the whole thing ... and I really DO mean that ... if you believe me! ;-)

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    2. Re:new perspective on my attempted visit by morcheeba · · Score: 1

      I just read that... thanks for mentioning me!!

      I did work at the college newspaper for ~1.5 years, so I was kindof press. It's amazing to see how news stories get selected. We were the "alternative" paper at a large college, which was founded partly because we were dissatisfied with the original paper. It was basically a bunch of press releases from the college ("New dorm on schedule"), plus reviews of productions from student union ("Vampire production sucks"), news stories from the wires, and a few local stories. We did more investigative reporting (our school SGA president wasn't doing his job), but it was still hard to take the initiative ... especially near finals time.

      I did park on the street one block north of you and thought I'd walk past the gate, but changed my mind. If there had been parking near the gate, I would have walked in. And, I didn't see your house because I was expecting the blinking lights!

      You sure get a lot of geek points for the effort you put into it. It would have been more fun if you had made it a little more outrageous, like if you did the White House, your huge dry-docked yacht, or some fictional large building.

  65. Known for a while by Jedi+Master+Cody · · Score: 0

    I have a friend that found out where he lived, and went war driving in his area a few years ago. Parked right out in front of the house and tried it. I have to admit it was a pretty clever hoax. It took people years to figure it out.

  66. IMHO... by Alioth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IMHO, the hoax (and how he did the hoax) is actually more entertaining than if it had been the real thing. It's interesting to see his attention to detail (right down to fiddling with EXIF headers to make it look like it was generated by a webcam, rather than photos he took earlier).

    1. Re:IMHO... by Thorwak · · Score: 1

      I couldn't agree more! I find the attention to details extraordinary and all the hurt egos around here just makes it even more hilarious. :-) The comment to the original story I remember being closest to questioning the project is that the pictures were of so good quality. Now a lot of people seem to suddenly "see" all the signs of it being a hoax. ;-) I admit willingly I fell for it. I thought is was a cool project but not nearly as cool as the hoax it turned out to be. One of those "Gee, I wish _I_ thought of doing that!" (TM) moments. I for one welcome our new fake internet controlled christmas lights sites overlord. :-)

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  67. Isn't that the idea of virtual lights? by ATMosby · · Score: 0, Redundant

    So on the net, no one can tell if you're a dog, or if your christmas lights are really remote controlled. :-)

  68. ./ was owned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The unhappy fellows will get ./ again and agian and agian :)

  69. His explanation... by josh3736 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Who actually read his explanation? (Yes, I know this is Slashdot, but you can try to RTFA)

    It seems like for all the trouble he went through to set up this hoax, it would actually have been easier to hook up the X10 to his computer and plop a real webcam outside.

    What it took for the hoax:

    • Taking 12 pictures for the various "on/off" states
    • Taking those 12 pictures in varying amounts of snowcover
    • Dynamically inserting airplanes overhead
    • Dynamically changing the position of the garage door by superimposing the garage on one of the 12 pics.
    • Dynamically adding stars in the sky that move over the course of the night
    • Occasionally Adding "cars" driving by
    • When the local news crew took him up in the helicopter, his wife stayed at home flipping the lights on and off.
    • Putting a real (but disconnected) webcam in the neighbor's tree so snoopers would see the webcam.
    For all that trouble, he might as well have just done it up real.

    I guess at least now we know who is really responsible for the moon landing video.

    1. Re:His explanation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If he'd actually done it for real he would've deserved all the geek-praise he got. But because it was a hoax he's just a goddamn terrorist in my eyes now....

    2. Re:His explanation... by arth1 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Who actually read his explanation? (Yes, I know this is Slashdot, but you can try to RTFA)

      It seems like for all the trouble he went through to set up this hoax, it would actually have been easier to hook up the X10 to his computer and plop a real webcam outside.

      What it took for the hoax:


      [Huge, long and well thought out list deleted]

      For all the trouble you went through to research and type out all this, you could have set up your house with teeceepipped blinkenlights :-)

      Regards,
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      *Art
    3. Re:His explanation... by null+etc. · · Score: 5, Funny
      It seems like for all the trouble he went through to set up this hoax, it would actually have been easier to hook up the X10 to his computer and plop a real webcam outside.

      Haven't you ever seen any Hollywood movies? Doing something like that only requires a few typed commands on the keyboard! You don't even need a mouse!

      And, if he wanted to, he could zoom in on and "enhance" a single pixel until it looked like his christmas lights.

    4. Re:His explanation... by griffjon · · Score: 3, Funny

      For all that trouble, he might as well have just done it up real. ...but where's the challenge in THAT?

      You, sir, need to turn in your geek card.

      --
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    5. Re:His explanation... by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 1

      And, if he wanted to, he could zoom in on and "enhance" a single pixel until it looked like his christmas lights.

      That's old tech. The new stuff can enhance a single channel of a single pixel for really hard to make out reflections in spoons on a bar in a dark restaurant. Holy cow, if only we had this stuff when I had to analyze photos with a scratched magnifying glass in two feet of snow while walking uphill (both ways!) to the office during a hurricane.

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    6. Re:His explanation... by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 1

      This just goes to demonstrate, once again, the truth of the old axiom that "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo."

    7. Re:His explanation... by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

      great list, but you forgot:

      running a webserver capable of handling slashdotting admirably

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    8. Re:His explanation... by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Now that's the truth. If he had done it for real, Homeseer or Mr. House (Windows or Linux, respecitively) would most certainly have melted down- I don't think their internal webservers can handle more than a couple of connections at a time, certainly NOT over a DSL line.

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  70. At least my... by Xanlexian · · Score: 1

    ... Grilled cheese sandwich portraying the Virgin Mary was entirely real.

    And my Elvis potato chips.

    And my guinea pig that is Alexander the Great reincarnate.

    But lights? No way!!!

    --Xan

    --
    "Congratulations, Boots. Your robot has become self-aware. You're a daddy now." -- Dr. Rho Bowman
  71. Say it ain't so! by Ricochet · · Score: 1

    While it is humorous I do find it bothersome. The least he could have dome is automated the show so his wife didn't need to stand there. What would it have taken? An X10 controller and a few X10 appliance modules. Lazy basturd!

    Unfortunately for the rest of us hwo actually use home automation he has created a situatuin where doubt is place in the minds of those we are bragging to. Thre goes my collness points. Now I'll have to stick to the talking fish. Hmm, Christmas, talking fish, ethernet controller, X10, ... that gives me an idea!

    1. Re:Say it ain't so! by Cyblob · · Score: 1

      This still doesn't explain them blinking lights I keep seeing...

  72. Hmm.. volunteers? by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

    Anyone know how to hack into this guys electricity and turn it on and off randomly? I'm sure he'd see the humor. :)

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  73. bull! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet THIS is a hoax.. there was too much complex work for this to be fake.. adding fake people/stars/planes/cars/etc.. impossible, i bet it was real but now that its got so much attention and people are trying to get to his house he just wants to end it once and for all and saying it was a hoax should kill it easily.. but i dont believe it!

  74. Go ahead and mod me OT by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 0, Troll

    But I have to say it.
    Why is it that our media is able to get to the bottom of something like this and expose it as a hoax but can't do the same with bogus WMD claims maid by our government?

  75. a REAL hack by verloren · · Score: 1

    It's just that he hacked you, not his light setup

    1. Re:a REAL hack by pyrote · · Score: 1

      It's just that he hacked you, not his light setup

      In Solviet Russia, the web site HACKS YOU!

      (Sorry I had to...didn't see it yet)

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  76. using slashdot to make money by lying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure. It's easy to lie and make money being a professional controversialist. I thought it was amusing right up to the point where I saw that you are making a couple of hundred bucks off of this. Why don't you just start molesting children? You'll get a lot more attention.

  77. Does that make him a "Smart Alek"? by cliveholloway · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thank you, I'll be here all week (except Friday, coz that's a holiday :)

    cLive ;-)

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  78. Yeah Baby!!!! by labeey · · Score: 0

    buhahahha... this guy kicks ass... this hoax should be patented

  79. Re:Someone didn't read the whole article! (Not Hoa by radd0 · · Score: 1

    The Lafayette man said he accomplished the trickery by taking 12 "base" photographs of the house with lights on and off and then constructed a Web page that appeared to show lights going on and off when the Web visitor clicked, but after performing web server stress testing, he replaced the test images with real-time camera generated images for the holiday season.

    Can you please cite your source for this quote? It does not say that anywhere on the main article.

  80. Easy Fix by purduephotog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Downloaded 3 images. Found out the fixed noise patterns were the same.

    You'd think that, as a camera would operate, the temperature would change and some of the random noise would be different.

    Sad to say, it wasn't.

    Conclusion: Either he had a very good noise removal algorithm... or he was faking the images.

    Proof: None. Just smile, snicker, and keep loading his pages until his bandwidth exceeds his heating...

  81. we did the same thing... by Nimrod · · Score: 1

    only it was many years ago when the web was new and shiny and the trojan room coffee pot was still really cool. The nerds down the hall had acutally gone through the trouble of wiring up their lamp, fridge, etc. to their web server.

    So us geeks couldn't let ourselves be out done by them. But all that soldering, that's too much like work. So we wrote a quickie perl script that showed how many inches the window was open, how many soda cans were in the trash, how many flies were buzzing around last night's pizza, and finally it would tell if Mike was wearing his pants. All based on the values of a few pseudo-random numbers.

  82. Hoaxes by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 0, Redundant

    You forgot:

    Clean your credit instantly!
    Get a really cheap mortgage!
    Lose 30 pounds in 30 days for 30 dollars! If you act now, you can get 30 Slashdot karma points as a free gift!
    Spy on your neighbors using your PC.
    Save money using Windows over Linux. :)

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  83. Re:over 20,000 people died this weekend by anamexis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Uh, not only was 9/11 not a natural disaster, less than 20,000 people died in it, so it would be "since" something before 9/11.
    That said, you may notice at the top of the page that it says "News for Nerds." Anyone can go to one of the hundreds of world news sites to find out what is going on in the world.

  84. Re:over 20,000 people died this weekend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    But they're orientals. 20,000 orientals is like 5 Americans tops.

  85. The PC'd G5 hoax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still think the PC'd G5 hoax was a lot funnier because of the fanatical response it drew from Mac fans, including causing what appears to have been severe depression. This article came out just after the PowerMac G5 was released.

    (OK, gotta be honest, I'm one of the Mac fans who was bummed over this one.)

  86. That guy is a terrorist and a fake by Safety+Cap · · Score: 1
    But some other people are "real". Really.

    No, wait...

    --
    Yeah, right.
    1. Re:That guy is a terrorist and a fake by Restil · · Score: 1

      I promise, my site is real.

      Of course, I can hardly blame anyone for thinking otherwise at this point.

      *grumble grumble*

      -Restil

      --
      Play with my webcams and lights here
  87. We did it for real in 1999 and 2000 by telemonster · · Score: 1

    We did this for real, not using X10, using FreeBSD, in 1999 and 2000.

    Details:
    http://www.757.org/main/projects/xmas00/
    http://www.757.org/main/projects/xmas99/

    No hoax.
    It might re-appear next year.

    --
    Southeastern Virginia REPRESENT!
  88. In real life, I use a spell checker. by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    On slashdot, you don't need one.

    Bad spelling either goes unnoticed, or invites comments.

    Devastating (right), Devistating (wrong), who cares, this thread will soon be off the front page and life goes on.

    --
    This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
  89. Get him! by nxtr · · Score: 0, Troll

    I know where he lives!

  90. Idea for use of AdSense Profits by JeffMagnus · · Score: 1

    Donate them to someone who wants to actually pull off a legitimate version.

    This along with the fact that the Perl Advent Calendar hasn't been updated since Dec. 21 ruined my Internet Christmas.

  91. Re:Hope Google sues you by The-Bus · · Score: 0, Troll
    Blockquoth the poster...

    Bullshit.

    I may get modded down for calling you the loser that you are, but I hope instead enough people are pissed off enough at you that they mod me up to +5 instead. Or someone with a slashdot account reposts this, so someone at Google sees it.

    You created a fraud. Congratulations. Only losers such as yourself know what runs through your mind during all the time you took to create your fraud. It would make an interesting psychology class.

    Not a big deal if it was confined to the slashdot crowd. But your site was picked up by mainstream press, and kids and adults from all over the world were entertained in believing your site to be real. Hopefully most non-slashdotters will continue to believe that, since they are unlikely to return unless they bookmarked the site and remember to return. Or maybe you'll continue your fraud and they won't know the difference.

    It may also serve as a good lesson on fraud for the older kids. But the younger kids? You gave them a lollipop, and it turned out to have a castor oil center. Hope you got a good laugh out of it, because you and a small minority of slashdotters are probably the only ones. I'd guess that most others, including most slashdot regulars feel let down or disappointed. And from the handfull of posts I read, also feel that you are a fraud.

    You pulled off a hoax, and got a helicopter ride and some Google cash out of it. Most fraudsters/losers are able to pull something like this off once in a while. But eventually, you'll end up in a grab-your-ankles situation. And when that happens, all I can say is, 8-]

    So in closing, I hope Google sues you to recover any money they paid you for your fraudulent site. Even if they lose, it will cost you for the lawyer or settlement, and Google won't miss the couple of grand they spend in legal fees at all. They protected their brand against fraud in your case, and it will have been money well spent.

    Congratulations. You are now known across the internet as a fraud. I'll bet the rest of your life revolves around fraud as well. Gated community? Get used to those bars.


    I'd have to agree. Maybe not as strongly as you, but I agree. I am an easily influenced person and after reading reactions/facts going opposite what I think I will often add that to my opinion. However, after reading a whole bunch of posts, his reaction, and the articles, I still don't know why he did it.

    The tech behind it seems cool but that doesn't make me want to cheer him on. I don't feel cheated, I just feel kind of sad. It didn't help that he continually shilled his site on here. So he fooled a bunch of people. How is that any kind of achievement?
    --

    Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.

  92. A Hoax about a Hoax by scribblej · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So you've got a well-deserved +3 Funny, and I've got no mod points, but I see no one has said "good job" and as such, let me:

    Good job, man.

  93. So he gets caught and it was intended to be funny? by the+angry+liberal · · Score: 1

    "I apologize to those people who may be angry with me, but hopefully most will see the humor in the whole situation ... and realize that my attempt to bring joy and a smile to people's faces was successful," he said.

    Right. I see after reading the previous thread the author was ready to pump us full of technical information and carry on as if this were some grand creation. This "joke" seemed to want to give us the idea the original prankster was a sharp gadget guy right up until getting caught so I don't buy it. This cat needs his head checked for Attention-Whore Syndrome (AWS).

  94. OWNED.... by Dj+Stingray · · Score: 1

    You know, I have been wanting to say that for so long, but never had the chance....

    I was OWNED!!

    Great job...only thing is he is too brilliant for his own good....bet he never thought the media would ever show up!

  95. any sufficiently advanced trickery by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    is indistinguishable from technology

  96. like that BK chicken by acomj · · Score: 1

    There was a web site with a chicken. You typed and told him what to do and he did it.. But it wasn't real either, but prerecorded stuff...

    Bah.. Fakery..

    1. Re:like that BK chicken by siliconjunkie · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ah yes...the Subservient Chicken. Even funnier was the list of stuff it would actually do!

  97. Look at it this way... by Rie+Beam · · Score: 1

    If the secret had been kept, would we be any more the wiser?

  98. Computer controlled Xmas lights by DogsBollocks · · Score: 2, Informative

    For the past number of years I have had computer controlled Xmas lights at my house in Edmonton, Canada.

    Although not controlled via the internet it would be relatively easy, just some software mod's and a web server required.

    The computer is a Pentium 90 stuck out in the garage, running a hand coded C' program to sequence the lights. The program checks the state of the real time clock in the computer and the light show is automatic between 18:00 - 22:00 nightly.

    The C' program runs under DOS (although this year it's now under Win98, because I was going to use VNC for control over the house LAN.)

    The program controls the printer port which is connected to 4 solid state relays, I currently have 4 channels with 4 strings of 5W bulbs on each channel (4*4*5*25=2KW) all these strings are strung around a 20' spruce tree. The lights fade in/out and the sequences have variable delay times and some random sequences so each time it runs the output is slightly different each time.

    Sorry no video or stills of this yet.

    1. Re:Computer controlled Xmas lights by dcigary · · Score: 2, Informative

      Mine is much simpler and less geeky, but I just bought a few of the grounded X10 applicance controllers, hooked them up to the extension cords for all the lights outside. I have a Firecracker X10 dongle on my RedHat box, and the lights are controlled via a self-modifying cron that determines sunrise and sunset. I have my regular outside lights also controlled by in in-wall X10 controller that way. The Xmas lights turn on at sunset, and go off at midnight. The outside lights then come on until sunrise, then they turn off.

      --
      ...my Karma ran over your Dogma...
  99. This would have been easy to implement... by Doppler00 · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why he had to make this a hoax. It would have been very easy to purchase all the necessary hardware to make this work. My guess it would only cost maybe $500 in hardware to implement this. The only problem would be controlling how often the lights were switched. It would be impossible to have 1,000 of users simultaniously executing commands to the lights. You would have to limit the number of users who could control the system at one time.

    Better yet, make a strand of 1,000 lights where each light can be turned on/off individualy. Then you could assign a single light for each client to control. That would be kind of interesting.

    If you're interested in turning a real light on/off try this

    It's kind of ho-hum, but it's an interesting example of their product.

  100. Slashdotters got... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PWNED

  101. Even Hoaxed EXIF data! by dcigary · · Score: 1

    The fact of the matter is that this guy pulled off a seamless hoax. He even hoaxed the EXIF data in the image just in case some snooping hacker decided to do some checking up. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Kudos to you, Mr Alek!

    --
    ...my Karma ran over your Dogma...
  102. Not a hoax!!! by superatrain · · Score: 1

    i was on his site! U can change the cams zoom, and zan it around. Plus the garage door, and cars and pedestrians. He problably admited it was a hoax to get teh ./ers away from his site!!

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    my karma ran over your dogma
  103. The funny part is. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Insightful
    When I read the original story I thought to myself. . .

    "Huh? 10,000 Slashdotters all jostling to flip half a dozen toggles on some guy's house lights? As if that could possibly work. Talk about bottle necks! So either this is a Fool's plan, or it's a hoax and anybody who believes it has been Fooled, --as well as demonstrating themselves to be immature enough to still believe that they are the center of the universe where all rules including band-width averages only apply to other people. (Bad things can't happen to me because I'm special!). --Either way somebody somewhere is playing the Fool, and how the heck did this rate being posted on Slashdot?"

    I almost posted something to that effect, but then I figured, "Aww. Don't be a humbug. It's Christmas. I'm sure the editors are just being cute."


    -FL

    1. Re:The funny part is. . . by Baricom · · Score: 1

      But you didn't post it, so even if you (and possibly others) believed it, nobody ever posted about it.

      I'm also disappointed it wasn't real. Among other things, I'm going to have to retract my statements to my non-techie friends.

      On the other hand, pulling off a hoax that few, if any, Slashdotters questioned publically is quite an achievement.

  104. In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

  105. Revenge by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    His electric chair won't suffer the same flaw

  106. Maybe that was the point by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    The easy way out is never really all that much fun...

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

    1. Re:Maybe that was the point by erlando · · Score: 1

      Ofcourse shortcuts are meant to be difficult. If they were easy they would just be THE WAY!

      --
      Remember, there are no stupid questions. But there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
  107. Re:racist pig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Exactly! How does the grandparent figure that eradication of the Jews he mentioned would be a blow to the human genome? He's nuts.

  108. chicken by Deanalator · · Score: 1

    I think I'll manage so long as noone tries to take away my subservient chicken.

  109. This hacks me off by Restil · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I run a similar site, even linked from that one. I have SO much trouble trying to convince the average techno-illiterate people of the world that computer controlled lamps ARE in fact not only possible, but extremely simple to implement. And up until now, I've tried to instill in them the fact that it'd be too much trouble to fake it and it'd take too much work.

    Now it's gonna be just that much harder. Argh.

    Do we really NEED another internet hoax? If the average clueless idiot wants to forward endlessly the Snopes fodder of the week, fine. Let the scourge of the internet propogate as they will. Forward their chain letters, buy their spam, and bug me endlessly about how my internet controlled lights MUST be fake, simply because they've never heard of X10 before. But someone who's obviously smart enough to know better has ruined it for the rest of us. And he seems pretty damned proud of himself too. Makes me sick.

    -Restil

    --
    Play with my webcams and lights here
  110. In other words by bluGill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    By restricting your neighbors freedom of expression so you can get a neighborhood of houses that all look exactly alike you think your life is better.

    Personally I'd like to live next door to someone who is creative enough to paint his house strange colors. I want nothing to do with the neighborhoods I've seen where every house looks the same, down to the flowers in the garden out front. To each his own I guess.

    1. Re:In other words by Saeger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree. The world's a boring place without "eccentrics". Unfortunately, most people find security in conformity.

      --
      Power to the Peaceful
    2. Re:In other words by sehryan · · Score: 1

      I guess you also want nothing to do with your house appreciating in value.

      --
      The world moves for love. It kneels before it in awe.
    3. Re:In other words by danheskett · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, "eccentrics" can have a very negative effect on your own situation.

      HOAs do cause people to conform. The level of conformity is up to the agreement, but it is a very important idea.

      If you buy a condo in an typical place, you are sharing a single building structure with dozens of people. Your actions can affect the real property of another person.

    4. Re:In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but looking at one of the other comments, what if the guy next door is not just "creatively painting his house", but plopping down a crappy trailer home and an outhouse next to you? Would you be as tolerant of "eccentricity" then?

    5. Re:In other words by Culture · · Score: 1

      This is an honest to god true story. My father has lived in an airstream trailer for about 10 years now. The tires are flat, and it is covered with several layers to bluwe tarp to keep it from leaking. He has about 8 non-running cars sitting around his trailer, and two that run. He uses a privy for a toliet, as he does not have running water. He get his water out of a well using a bucket! He takes a shower by standing on a platform int he yard and dumping water over his head (He is a real man, as actually takes a weekly shower in the winter). There is insulating foam (i.e. r-board) of various colors screwed to the outside of the trailer to "keep down energy cost." If he moved next to your house, its value would drop by 75% overnight. Would this bother you? I would not want him within 10 miles of my house.

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      ----- There are two kinds of people in this world, my friend; those with loaded guns, and those who dig.
    6. Re:In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No doubt, a neighborhood of Painted Ladies in various garish colors roxors. Indigo, Scarlet and Periwinkle would be awesome on a two story Queen Anne. Too bad Victorian houses are such maintenence nightmares (painting, wasp extermination and nest removal).

  111. There is something there, kinda. by Feelvoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (AdSense policies span more than one page.)

    Actually, he may not be able to disclose the dollar amount he received, although I'm not sure how to interpret it and I don't feel like making the effort. Here, check out Item b from Google AdSenseTM Online Standard Terms and Conditions:

    Confidentiality. You agree not to disclose Google Confidential Information without Google's prior written consent. "Google Confidential Information" includes without limitation: (a) all Google software, technology, programming, specifications, materials, guidelines and documentation relating to the Program; (b) click-through rates or other statistics relating to Site performance in the Program provided to You by Google; and (c) any other information designated in writing by Google as "Confidential" or an equivalent designation. It does not include information that has become publicly known through no breach by You or Google, or information that has been (i) independently developed without access to Google Confidential Information, as evidenced in writing; (ii) rightfully received by You from a third party; or (iii) required to be disclosed by law or by a governmental authority.

    -j.

  112. Ah yes... by alienmole · · Score: 1
    You're not supposed to let your friends know you read Slashdot.
    First rule of Slashdot...
    1. Re:Ah yes... by SnapShot · · Score: 1

      And, if it's your first time on Slashdot, you have to mod me up.

      --
      Waltz, nymph, for quick jigs vex Bud.
  113. Redeem himself by JumperCable · · Score: 1

    I think that Alex can redeem himself by posting all of the code it took to put in all the variable details, clock, cars, people, planes weather etc.

  114. ratings will slow down or stop fraud by ftide · · Score: 1
    This is the second time slashdot has been fooled big time. The other time was with the motorcycle woman in Chernobyl who may have actually been driven under escort through the nuke site and photoshopped the rest.

    Slashdot needs RATINGS. A rating is work by an independent party who verifies claims stated or written by a party. All the individuals in the independent party cannot have any connection whatsoever, directly or indirectly, to the party whose veracity is in question. Forget six degrees of separation to Kevin Bacon, we're talking mono y mono.

    Ratings are done all the time in scientific circles but they need some way of being defined, evaluated and engaged quickly in normal settings. Once an evaluation/assessment is done by a rating group the rating is published. Ratings are standards and should be sanctioned by non-profit boards for what they are (what do they say about actions of other people) and how they work (What does each rating mark or star signify? 1 to 4 stars? 1 to 6?).

    Case in point: if some party gets a reputation for defrauding others they get a low rating from independent parties. You can apply mathematics to this but it is by and large a trust network. Ratings groups are essentially in effect on message boards and newsgroups when registered users comment other users positively or negatively.

    Reference:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=109249&cid=928 1878
    Re:Without IT... (Score:3, Insightful)
    "Slashdot should come up with a scale or ratings system with a moon as an icon signifying the quantity + quality of tech topics in crescent, half, three quarters and full moon chunks. Topics represent either the light or dark side, open code and hidden code respectively. To expound on software architecture differences there can be a series of moons each with a classification."

  115. Oh, suuure.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    With all the press coverage it got, you think you're the only person trying to use the system.

    You got it all to yourself for half an hour, right?

  116. Re:Hah! Bumhug. by RipTides9x · · Score: 1

    (nt)

  117. ho-ho-h0wnage by bl8n8r · · Score: 1

    Pretty good joke. Although a little depressing. ..Kinda like finding out the truth about that Santa Claus hoax all over again.

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  118. Webcam hoax and FireFox by ArtStone · · Score: 1

    If you wander into his daily weblog reports, on 12/27, the Firefox browser was 40.32% of all requests.

    Are ./ readers lemmings or what?

    </rhetorical-question>

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  119. This guy has gone up in my estimation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The hoax is actually more clever than doing the necessary wiring.

  120. New Webcam by Deinhard · · Score: 1

    I say we take this guy, connect electrodes to his balls, and let web visitors turn the current off and on. Let's see how he lights up.

    --
    Successfully condensing fact from the vapor of nuance since 1998.
  121. It's actually much easier to do this in RL by Eric+Coleman · · Score: 1

    I've done this sort of thing before, but inside the house. I used a simple webserver with PHP w/ CURL to use specially crafted URLs to query a secondary internal x10 server. I had a rotating disco ball and various lights controllable via the web. And people want to put him on Letterman for faking this?

  122. 84% not mad?? by iamhassi · · Score: 1

    Out of nearly 4,000 votes 84% are not mad they were lied to about the lights. How can this be? This guy completely ruined it for anybody else out there that was thinking of doing something similar, now everyone will think all sites like this are a complete fraud.

    --
    my karma will be here long after I'm gone
    1. Re:84% not mad?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Several people actually do what this jerk wad claimed he was doing. Greg Parcell in Illinois is one:

      http://www.twasthenightbefore.com/webcam-2004.ht m

  123. From Alek - thanx for the comment guys by xmas2003 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I enjoyed reading reading through the comments from everyone - you guys were a bit tough on me, but I think that is partially because the referenced link was the Channel-7 one ... and whether you believe me or not (ummmm!), they STILL don't have the story right almost 24 hours later ... and this is also interesting reading

    Interestingly enough, the FARK guys linked my Hoax page which includes a pointer to the WSJ article and those FARK guys wrote some HILARIOUS comments - so I wonder how many comments above were biased by the original press report?

    --
    Hulk SMASH Celiac Disease
  124. Further coverage by rah1420 · · Score: 1

    ..on the scam is available here.

    Darn it, one of these days I'm gonna get an article submitted. :)

    --
    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.
  125. Re:Hope Google sues you by NickDngr · · Score: 1

    Bullshit.

    I may get modded down for calling you the loser that you are, but I hope instead enough people are pissed off enough at you that they mod me up to +5 instead. Or someone with a slashdot account reposts this, so someone at Google sees it.

    You created a fraud. Congratulations. Only losers such as yourself know what runs through your mind during all the time you took to create your fraud. It would make an interesting psychology class.

    Not a big deal if it was confined to the slashdot crowd. But your site was picked up by mainstream press, and kids and adults from all over the world were entertained in believing your site to be real. Hopefully most non-slashdotters will continue to believe that, since they are unlikely to return unless they bookmarked the site and remember to return. Or maybe you'll continue your fraud and they won't know the difference.

    It may also serve as a good lesson on fraud for the older kids. But the younger kids? You gave them a lollipop, and it turned out to have a castor oil center. Hope you got a good laugh out of it, because you and a small minority of slashdotters are probably the only ones. I'd guess that most others, including most slashdot regulars feel let down or disappointed. And from the handfull of posts I read, also feel that you are a fraud.


    "Oh my God... think of the children!" Get a grip, dude. If you don't want to disappoint your kids don't tell them. Were you emotionally scarred when you found out that Santa wasn't real? Or are you just pissed off because you fell for it and you have no sense of humor?

    --
    Yoda of Borg am I! Assimilated shall you be! Futile resistance is, hmm?
  126. This is why I will not live in an HOA community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No-HOA was a requirement for my house search. I will not put up with a bunch of nosy asshats telling me what color to paint my house, what I can plant in my yard, where to park my car for the night and whether or not I can have my garage door open for more than five minutes at a time.

    Yes, I have the worst house in the neighborhood. It needs a paint job, but I mow the grass and do other minimal yard care. But then again, I'm the only person in the neighborhood who does his own yard work. ;)

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  129. A fraud is a fraud is a fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are easier ways of duping /.

    It's done all the time. This was an elaborate fraud, nothing more. Lots of /.'ers are getting a thrill over it because of the general age group of the readership, and because of the interest in the technical details behind the fraud. But that doesn't make it any less of a fraud.

    And they took Google along for the ride. A site based on fraud profitted from Google's advertising program, and a lot of small businesses paid out advertising click through money based on a fraud.

    Where's the humor behind this site? The fact that he duped a news organization into a helicopter ride? The fact that visitors to his site thought they were controlling Christmas lights of what was represented as a beautiful Christmas display? Would it have been funnier if there were a nativity scene?

  130. Re:Alek at work by dorey · · Score: 2

    How very unprofessional of you to post Alek's email address, and also his place of employment. In your quest to take the wind out of Alek's sails, you dragged Lockheed Martin and CSC into this situation. Did you stop to think about how that might reflect on you, or these companies? So Alek pointed out our gullible humanity--big deal. He said he wanted to spread some Christmas cheer and I believe him. There are worse things to be than a wanna-be elf....like an anonymous coward, perhaps. Good luck to you. I hope your anonymity holds tight.

  131. Re:over 20,000 people died this weekend by Rotund+Prickpull · · Score: 0
    20,000 orientals is like 5 Americans tops.
    Weight wise, yes.