If the linux desktops ever want to stand a chance of grabbing some market share from Windows, they need to be implementing this kind of technology whilst Microsoft are still in the planning phase.
Although having said that, OS X has the capability but hasn't seen its market share rise.
Also worth pointing out, in response to the jibes about terrorism, that India is a Hindu nation, and on a whole hate Islam (hence the breakup and formation of Pakistan, and the constant arguments, atomic style), the only thing in common is a skin colour.
mostly the fault of the application author (frozen app not running a new thread), although I've had it happen to myself and it is mighty annoying (usually during a game of counter-strike)
I've found c# is about 10 times more productive than PHP for developing, even compared to tools like phpedit. MS is lightyears ahead in terms of developer tools - debugging, intellisense, remote debugging, all the addins for vs.net, fx cop etc. This is after using php on and off, 9-5 for 3 years.
..for a loosely typed language. All of these features seem fairly useless without it having the speed of being compiled (there's compilers out there, but no built in one), especially as most php programmers use it for a quick and easy language. And those that don't end up with reams of spaghetti, even OO php.
One plus is the access modifiers though
Netscape 5 NEVER EXISTED
Hence why i put (6) in brackets. I didn't know 6 was based on 0.9, I thought it was the just the old engine with a new gui. I'll hold that nugget of info somehwere in the my memory for future bar conversations.
MSHTML.dll and the dlls you mention are just mere COM servers, they don't do anything magical. OK it got integrated into the shell so you cannot remove IE, which was wrong of Microsoft, although a lot of their Windows strategy was to be based around internet technologies, so you sort of forgive them for focusing on IE, if you're liberal minded like me.
Netscape was open sourced and became the mozilla project when Netscape no longer decided to sell Navigator, from what I've read of the history. This version of Mozilla is what I meant by the less than rosey past comment.
Wow I upset really you SenseiLeNoir didn't I.
Mozilla became netscape 4 which almost everyone but netscape will agree was a dire browser, and that has to be the over-riding factor for why people chose IE over Netscape 4,5(6). Nobody who used Windows when NS4 or 5 was out, needed another browser, as the standard one was so much better. I'm not sure what 'ie is loaded with windows' means. It's just a standard exe with a shell extension written in, which anyone can write.
Now Mozilla is free of Netscape as a project, it's catching up nicely, however in 4,5 netscape/the mozilla engine's support for w3c standards was a lot worst than IE's, which was my original point, however badly I articulated it;)
And presumably the XAML definition file will be rendered as HTML by asp.net engine, unless ms plan to build in a XAML parser into IE (probably quite likely).
Clearing up points 1 and 2which were not intended as trolling/flame bait, 1 was in reference to the wide range of standards that have been implmented badly by each browser producer, including IE, and 2 until recently has been a correct statement - looks at netscape 4 and 6. It's only since mozilla's own browser has been released that we've started to see quality, the blame perhaps can be pointed at netscape rather than mozilla.
You've obviously never used the 4.x range of Netscape, which most web developers battled with for years, to provide work arounds for broken tables, css, and (not w3c) nice javascript features such as resize bugs.
http://www.richinstyle.com/bugs/netscape4.html
This was when IE5 and 5.5 were out, which implemented CSS nicely, started up in less than 5 seconds - reasons why it became the dominant browser: it was and still is faster. Even firefox and its claims of speed is still slower.
Great, yet more web standards to learn. I don't put a great deal of faith into Mozilla, whose w3c support history has been less than rosey.
I was under the impression XAML is to be used primarily for laying out winforms, rather than as an new alternative to the tag.
Without trying to sound like a slashdot parrot, all they've basically done is stolen the shiny plastic feel from Apple, and added some content integration via napster and the other one. And some mobile support.
Let's hope this one doesn't have a glaring exploit that 8(?) did, which allowed web pages to open the WMPlayer object, replace the exe with a trojan, and right royally shaft your machine (including deleting taskmgr.exe - now that really is evil!!)
no the tools are great, what I'm saying is a few sql server people have come from access which doesn't necessarily require hardened security, or are generally not bothered about security.
MS Sql has far greater security 'granularity' than mysql (that's from using mysql for 3 years), but then it costs $3000 more
People setting no sa passwords is not a myth, I've seen it done on by a company who we took a job on from. The website was using sa and no password to access its database. And oddly enough, the machine managed to get a trojan horse on it, and a warez ftp server pointing LA!
The problem is a lot to do with MS enabling muppets to use SQL Server, as its tools are so intuitive to use. They should force a strong sa password in the setup, and lock down (including turning off RPC on the server) by default - cater for the lowest common denominator
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http://www.neowin.net/ has a whole posting on screenshots, some are okay (although the shots are from people with cheap graphics cards it looks like)
You can get a blue screen of death screensaver from http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/bluescr eensaver.shtml . Always a hoot to have running in your lunch hour.
If the linux desktops ever want to stand a chance of grabbing some market share from Windows, they need to be implementing this kind of technology whilst Microsoft are still in the planning phase. Although having said that, OS X has the capability but hasn't seen its market share rise.
don't under-estimate the power of a chicken madras and a four pack
And a similar sized gap between American English and British 'proper' english ;)
Also worth pointing out, in response to the jibes about terrorism, that India is a Hindu nation, and on a whole hate Islam (hence the breakup and formation of Pakistan, and the constant arguments, atomic style), the only thing in common is a skin colour.
or setup each pc from a ghosted image that has clippy turned off
i like the way you have to tread on eggshells when even a sniff of criticism for unix + descendents is brought up on /. :o)
i've never understood how the term *nix evolved. Linix?!! Solarix?!! Ho well
Hell hath no fury like Mozilla fan scorned
mostly the fault of the application author (frozen app not running a new thread), although I've had it happen to myself and it is mighty annoying (usually during a game of counter-strike)
I've found c# is about 10 times more productive than PHP for developing, even compared to tools like phpedit. MS is lightyears ahead in terms of developer tools - debugging, intellisense, remote debugging, all the addins for vs.net, fx cop etc. This is after using php on and off, 9-5 for 3 years.
..for a loosely typed language. All of these features seem fairly useless without it having the speed of being compiled (there's compilers out there, but no built in one), especially as most php programmers use it for a quick and easy language. And those that don't end up with reams of spaghetti, even OO php. One plus is the access modifiers though
Award for most ironic spam email has to fall the one I got advertising the anti-spam services of http://www.spamarrest.com . I admit i signed up...
Why does he have a picture of Christina Aguilera for his website background image?
BT will spend around 3bn on the project - more than the annual spend on Britain's main roads
By about 2.9bn judging from our motorways
Netscape 5 NEVER EXISTED Hence why i put (6) in brackets. I didn't know 6 was based on 0.9, I thought it was the just the old engine with a new gui. I'll hold that nugget of info somehwere in the my memory for future bar conversations. MSHTML.dll and the dlls you mention are just mere COM servers, they don't do anything magical. OK it got integrated into the shell so you cannot remove IE, which was wrong of Microsoft, although a lot of their Windows strategy was to be based around internet technologies, so you sort of forgive them for focusing on IE, if you're liberal minded like me. Netscape was open sourced and became the mozilla project when Netscape no longer decided to sell Navigator, from what I've read of the history. This version of Mozilla is what I meant by the less than rosey past comment.
Wow I upset really you SenseiLeNoir didn't I. Mozilla became netscape 4 which almost everyone but netscape will agree was a dire browser, and that has to be the over-riding factor for why people chose IE over Netscape 4,5(6). Nobody who used Windows when NS4 or 5 was out, needed another browser, as the standard one was so much better. I'm not sure what 'ie is loaded with windows' means. It's just a standard exe with a shell extension written in, which anyone can write. Now Mozilla is free of Netscape as a project, it's catching up nicely, however in 4,5 netscape/the mozilla engine's support for w3c standards was a lot worst than IE's, which was my original point, however badly I articulated it ;)
And presumably the XAML definition file will be rendered as HTML by asp.net engine, unless ms plan to build in a XAML parser into IE (probably quite likely). Clearing up points 1 and 2which were not intended as trolling/flame bait, 1 was in reference to the wide range of standards that have been implmented badly by each browser producer, including IE, and 2 until recently has been a correct statement - looks at netscape 4 and 6. It's only since mozilla's own browser has been released that we've started to see quality, the blame perhaps can be pointed at netscape rather than mozilla.
You've obviously never used the 4.x range of Netscape, which most web developers battled with for years, to provide work arounds for broken tables, css, and (not w3c) nice javascript features such as resize bugs. http://www.richinstyle.com/bugs/netscape4.html This was when IE5 and 5.5 were out, which implemented CSS nicely, started up in less than 5 seconds - reasons why it became the dominant browser: it was and still is faster. Even firefox and its claims of speed is still slower.
Great, yet more web standards to learn. I don't put a great deal of faith into Mozilla, whose w3c support history has been less than rosey. I was under the impression XAML is to be used primarily for laying out winforms, rather than as an new alternative to the tag.
Without trying to sound like a slashdot parrot, all they've basically done is stolen the shiny plastic feel from Apple, and added some content integration via napster and the other one. And some mobile support. Let's hope this one doesn't have a glaring exploit that 8(?) did, which allowed web pages to open the WMPlayer object, replace the exe with a trojan, and right royally shaft your machine (including deleting taskmgr.exe - now that really is evil!!)
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no the tools are great, what I'm saying is a few sql server people have come from access which doesn't necessarily require hardened security, or are generally not bothered about security. MS Sql has far greater security 'granularity' than mysql (that's from using mysql for 3 years), but then it costs $3000 more
People setting no sa passwords is not a myth, I've seen it done on by a company who we took a job on from. The website was using sa and no password to access its database. And oddly enough, the machine managed to get a trojan horse on it, and a warez ftp server pointing LA! The problem is a lot to do with MS enabling muppets to use SQL Server, as its tools are so intuitive to use. They should force a strong sa password in the setup, and lock down (including turning off RPC on the server) by default - cater for the lowest common denominator